Switching to a ZWO ASIAIR Plus?
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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The ASIAIR Plus will be available in November. Will you be switching/upgrading? Also... I think CUIV should be a regular technical advisor for this channel! :D
Sir, please you also capture the pictures of landscape photography as like Alyn Wallace and also make Astrovlog video like Alyn Wallace and upload videos on RUclips "Please 🙏 Sir"
I was going to mention Cuiv, but you got there way before me lol
@@Priyanshu369up I'm a fan of Alyn too
Love the Pro…will definitely be getting the PLUS for the extended wifi! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Naah. It's a nice set up and convenient, but being locked into ZWO products (even though they're good) doesn't sound appealing. I'll stick with my NUC and SGP or NINA.
So happy to see a collaboration with Cuiv, he absolutely deserves the exposure (pun intended) !
Thanks! It's fun too!
I had been holding out on the ASIAir to wait for it to mature - and I think third time's the charm, as far as I can tell! I am impressed with how streamlined an experience it provides out of the box! It's now permanently on my smaller setup.... Until another manufacturer convinces me to buy a non-ZWO camera :-) But in the meantime, I'm planning several tutorials (framing, live stack, etc.) to post on my channel!
I look forward to those future tutorials. Your 1st was impressive. I've tried Live Stack, but seems odd taking calibration frames before Light Frames
Hey Trevor! - I have to say I am/have switched over to asiair plus from the Pc solution, and for my sessions it's been a revelation! :-) really happy!
Awesome video as always and it was very interesting to hear your first take on things!
Clear skies 👍👍
Always nice to hear honest unbiased reviews love the vids, love your captures Trevor
Amazing video. Been waiting for an upgraded ASI AIR. Loved the image Trevor!
What a great setup! Really love to see the equipment ( I've been building in my dreams 🤓) in action. Well done mate!
Great overview Trevor. I must say.. I have been using the AAP for about a year now and it is absolutely perfect for me. Being in the uk.. Weather is always an issue. My rig is set up amd ready to go near my garden door and the i can get uo and running in minutes with AAP routine. It works seamlessly with the EAF and Autoguider. Completely get what you mean regarding beginners.. I must admit the AAP has made my imaging sessions so simple now i could never look back.
After about a month of trying to get NINA and PHD2 to work on my laptop, I switched to the ASIair Pro. As a beginner, I don't think I would have persuded astrophotography as a hobby if it wasn't for the ASIair. It makes everything so easy and enjoyable.
Glad you are revisiting the ASIAir. I tried a laptop but never took to looking at a PC while stargazing. I love the simplicity of DSLR/wide field scope and no guiding. But I wanted to start guiding and the ASIAir was the answer. Like you, I liked that gentle glow of the hand controller, but the ASIAir not only eliminated that, it introduced me to plate solving, no need for star alignment, and a bunch of possibilities. I used the unit for visual last night by designating the guide scope (120mini/50mm) as Main Camera and replacing my DSLR with a star diagonal and eyepiece. The polar alignment, plate solving, goto functions worked great.
I use the ASIAIR Pro and love it! I've only been in the hobby for a year but I found it so easy to understand and work with.
I have the ASIAIR Pro version so I probably won’t upgrade but I am so happy you reviewed the Plus version Trevor! It makes deep sky astro so much fun!
Another thing to add to the wish list! :) Thanks for great videos Trevor! 🙏🏻
This helped me immensely having taken up the hobby last year. Works great on my EQ6-R pro but when you start to switch up to e.g. the mount you have in the dome or 10 micron that require modelling for those that want unguided… maybe a mini pc or eagle might be the route for full control. Having said that because you can connect to the 10 micron, you could run a 3 star alignment and refine stars via virtual hand controller and using the asiair platesolve feature. Takes a while but doable
Trevor, you are the man 👍🏼 keep up the great work and amazing videos!
I have the Pro and it is unbelievable! Definitely getting the plus too 👌
Great video and the end music was really nice too :D
I am trying to watch as many videos as possible to get a crash course on the ASI Air Plus. I just got mine delivered this week, along with the EAF and will be putting it all together on the William Optics Z61, along with my new SWSA GTi mount. I watched your video on the ASI294MC Pro (which is what I have). When you gave it such a great review and said you used an UV/IR cut filter to get that beautiful photo of the Veil nebula, I purchased a filter for mine. Now I have no excuse not to go for it. Thanks for sharing everything, I am so inspired.
And what is happening. Did you already got an DS image from your setup.
I don't need sponsorship and I don't maintain a social media presence. I like the ASIair because it's a very easy and straight forward device. It just works. I've used a laptop. Apt, Nina, and all that. Bought the ASIair and haven't looked back.
I keep saying I just need to dive in with both feet and figure this stuff out. Looks like this will help with the learning curve. Maybe. I am so new I cant even tell you where the planets and stars are. I have taken some pictures of the milky way and moon but that is it. This just seems so involved and SOOOOOOOOOOOO much to learn. Thank you for taking the time to make this video
You are litterly the Person who made me turn into a Astrophotographer 🙂 Thank you!☺
Astro noob here, LOVE the asiair pro, works everytime, no issues, plan mode is priceless, grateful for this little box on world Gratitude Day 👍
I've already seen it at Cuiv the lazy geek. Looks awesome!
I just got one. It's pretty amazing tech, using my old Canon DSLR and lens with a SA GTi, and getting some good results already. Thanks for the vid. I LOVE plate solving...
ASIair pro user and even with the WiFi issues it's a game changer. One thing that wasn't mentioned which is really powerful,is the ability to schedule multiple targets over the night. So set up the targets, and go to bed. Good to see the updates have sorted the WiFi though. Will be upgrading.
Awesome video, Trevor! You’re going to be platesolving if you’re not careful! 🙂😂🙂
So funny. He still holding on to those one and two star alignments .
I have the V1 and the Pro. The software has come on a long way over the past two years. The pro added video capture and live stacking but destroyed the wifi range. The plus looks like the best of both of the former iterations. Great video as always Trevor.
The picture is outstanding!
Wow I'm so early, awesome job Trevor, keep up the good work 😁
Btw.. could you make a vid for complete astrophotography beginners, like what's stacking, exposures, etc.?
Hey it's Cuiv! Lol his first light video with the ASIR Plus had me cracking up. He said Wow about 100 times 🤣.
I totally expect the next AstroBackyard video to have the word WOW in it as least that many! I sure love my ASIAIR Pro and Plus, but I think my channel already made that clear ;)
I have the first version of the ASIAir and so far it has been working as expected, but I may switch to the new Pro Plus due to a few feature that I can't get on my original version.
I was working on a Raspberry Pi to do what ZWO released in the ASIAir..I'm very happy they fixed the issues I have encountered. I wanted a solution where I didn't need to haul out my laptop and the ASIAir was the solution. I may give AstroBerry I try too.
Great job on the video!
It'll be interesting to see if it holds up after awhile. Good luck :)
I think it really helps to use the ASIAIR app on a tablet rather than a phone. The app is well optimized to small screens but having slightly bigger screen space for messing with things helps. I'm using a Samsung s6 tablet and it runs smooth as butter.
Heck yeah! Thumbs up for the Lazy Geek.
I know this is about 2 years old, but I finally broke down to try and simplify my setup recently. I have been using a Software Bisque MYT mount with the sky software AP130mm scope and I was pretty comfortable with it, but I didn't have a dedicated observatory, so setting up and taking down was starting to become a chore on my old bones. LOL I moved to an Aptura 75q with a AM5 mount asi122mm guider and ASI 1600mm camera with 5X2 filter wheel. The asiair + device makes everything from Polar alignment , focusing, finding objects , guiding and capture a breeze! I know its not for everyone, but for me I find myself able carry my scope and tripod out on my viewing spot and ready to image in 15 minutes!!!!
I've been using the + now for a few weeks. Quite impressive improvement is transmitter range. I am getting 35 feet through exterior walls.
you know its a good day when astrobackyard uploads
Wonderful video. I am a asiair pro user. Keep thinking I'll go back to laptop and other programs. But the asiair is just so easy. Would love to see you take your fits. From the one shot color camera and see your stacking and processing. Step by step. For those of us that have trouble getting as good a quality photos as I did with sharpcap and SGP.
I feel like we have the same taste in music😂 ur past videos have had songs that are in my playlist on spotify! Cool stuff dude!
My asiair plus gets here tomorrow, excited to see how the wifi does
Love my AIR Plus. It's been fantastic so far, and makes the whole experience way more enjoyable than messing with a laptop.
Great video Trevor. Only thing I would expand on for me I use the AsiAirpro as an experienced Astrophotographer. Yes it simplifies the whole process but with no observatory it’s a win for me. The time it takes to set up has been vastly reduced since moving to the ASI, especially when running to rigs. Clear skies
That was my big win, I would struggle with polar because i have a fork on wedge mount but the ASIAIR I'm aligned in 10 minutes or less and ready to go back inside.
I own the Asiair pro. I hope they come up with more ways to finetune guiding. PEC and more adjustment. But love a lot of things too..
I just watched this video because it popped up in my recommended but then I went to insta and saw your post and thought "oh awesome, a new video to watch." I fear I have played myself.
AstroBackyard great vid love watch all your stuff, was wondering do you prefer the color zwo’s or the mono chrome? I see you jump back and forth.
You beat me to it! 😂 I'm still editing the audio for my review.
Trevor, where have you been you are old school. Been using an ASIAir Pro for about a year, totally made my life photographing targets a breeze. From polar alignment, plate solving, guiding, focusing, capturing images, dark frames, dew heaters, etc. Leave the laptop at home as this will do a better job with an intuitive work flow. I use a amazon fire tablet which can run all night. I will recommend if using a battery, get a big one as the ASI with all the work it is doing, it uses a lot of power. But it!
Thanks for disclosing the (lack of) compensation. Gives us viewers a better idea of whats driving the video.
Great video. Do you think the new AAP can capture suitable planetary videos assuming I’m using a ZWO planetary camera
I use an Intel NUC for my imaging, mounted directly on the rig, but I might pick this up for a second imaging rig.
Wow amazing u r a legend
Cuiv & Trevor in the same instructional video ? SWEET !!!
Right?! :D
Can't wait
what quide camera do u use? That is the only thing i cant see in your Gear list. That rig setup you have on the raptor61 look amazing! WOW.. I really need this! I think this will change my astrophoto to a compleat/Complete. Do i need the filter.. I have a 4-5 ski.
The device looks amazing! Is there any table of compatibility with telescopes? Will it work with Celestron 4SE?
I love Asiair Pro for the EdgeHD800/Atlas Pro setup and am planning on getting a second one for my portable Skyguider Pro setup. I am still using the laptop for the Astroshed setup since it works and is already set. Ha Ha - You will finally be platesolving if you switch - only a matter of time. - Cheers Kurt
You should try and take a picture of the Hubble Legacy Field
Nice review. Does it have the equivalent of FireCapture for luna and planetary imaging?
Another great video! Quick question though, I don't need to plug anything into my dslr do I for autoguiding? It's just the guide camera that gets plugged in isn't it? My dslr is a second hand canon 1000d so would I be able to use that as my main imaging camera with this asiair set up?
I’ve been into astronomy since I was 8 (currently 44) and reading Adventures in the Solar System with Planetron (anyone?). I entered the astrophotography hobby just as the ASIAir Pro came out and managed to snag one during the beginning months of the pandemic. The Wi-Fi connection was horrible and frustrating but I purchased a Vonet’s wifi extender and that has solved the majority of my issues. I absolutely LOVE the acquisition portion of this hobby; capturing images from my backyard as I do visual astronomy with a separate scope. Now, it’s my post-processing I really need to work on. Ugh. 😒
I bought my ASIAir pro in august just so Id have a way to guide in the field. of course then I saw they had the 533mc pro in stock so got that as well. I sit next to my rig in the field, but I ordered a wifi extender for when i walk away farther than 5 feet! so I think the regular one will be just fine for me, but its still annoying that they release a new one right after I buy the old one!
I’m an OG as well and I switched completely over to the ASIAIR Pro 6 months ago and have never looked back. The ASIAIR is a real game changer and has eliminated the need for a laptop entirely. I do recommend running the ASIAIR app on a tablet. I run mine on an iPad and it is phenomenal!
Are you ever tempted to run it from your home PC?
@@AntPDC Nope
I can honestly say that apart from guiding in general; the ASIAIR is the single most profoundly useful purchase I've ever made in astronomy. Setups that used to take an hour or more, now take five minutes. Things that 50% of the time used to work 30% of the time, now work 100% of the time right away, robustly, and without fail. Since getting my AIR, I've discarded precisely ZERO subs due to derpy guiding. I used to throw away easily 20-30% in a given night. I'm absolutely in awe of this piece of kit. Doing without it seems genuinely prehistoric now.
Hi there, another great video. I was wondering if you could advise me on why when using Autorun that my ZWO585MC only seems to take black and white images as when I take test shots in 'Preview' it saves the images to my phone in colour. As such it seems that the camera seems to be operating fine, but I hope that my settings in the ASIAIR Plus are off when in Autorun. I hope you can advise? All the best, Dougie
Hey Trevor, I have the Pro version and used it some times. I am completely with you when it comes to reliability and WiFi range issues of the ASI AIR Pro. It's good to hear that these things were improved in the new version.
I would still use my mini PC in my backyard because you still can not plan your imiging frames in sense of rotation and mosaics.
Clear Skies,
Christian
I read and saw somewhere that the ASIAIR+ can create mosaics now as well…
@@WilliFromEarth
Wow! I didn't know that. I will dig into that subject if it's possible.
Thank you.
Clear Skies,
Christian
i love your vids
Gonna pre order it right away! This thing wil help me with so much trouble. Does it work on every mount? I got a skywatcher eq5 or a eq5 pro.
Hi Trevor, Love your videos. In a further demo can you show the ASIAIR Plus use of the Video mode? I have the Pro and cannot fathom how to use that mode. An mp4 gets saved on the phone, but where? It does not say. Does the Plus address how planetary can be done? Like the Moon or Jupiter. Before I dump my PC it would be good to see. I go back to Sharpcap for such images. The other modes are so much more intuitive.
Hi Trevor, have you tested the ASIAir with a QHY camera and filter wheel?
Hi Trevor. I wonder how well the ASiair works with astrovideo/planetary capture? Will the unit support the data throughput of the current cameras?
I have Pegasus Ultimate Power Box and mini pc, both sitting on the top of my scope. What also I have is absolutely unlimited freedom to use this setup with whatever camera and software I like.
Trevor, this is a great review. I've touched upon the original ASIAIR a bit and it's great that they're making continuous improvements from one generation to the next. I'm relatively new astrophotography compared to some of you guys (only a year in), and I too prefer the "OG" method of lugging out a laptop out there. However, because I don't own much ZWO products, then the ASIAIR, regardless of how they improve upon it, would be useless to me. I still prefer the freedom of using whatever I want with my MINI-PC / Laptop. Great review nonetheless!
Trevor, can you do a tutorial on the Airpro??? I get polar alignment and that's about it.
Trevor, Does this latest version of ASIAIR Pro Plus works with a CEM 40 mount? All the data I found seems to indicate that it does not. Can you elaborate on this. It looks really good, but still, I need to find out if it will work. I am interested in the mount control with the meridian flip, plate solving, and centering the object along with the PHD2 guiding and dithering. BTW, can this box interface with a Windows laptop?
I still have the pro sitting in its box, so really need to put it to use, so no need for the new one! Do like the Eagle setup that Steven Morris is using though.....
I havent picked one up yet cause I am still using a Skyguider pro, and using APT and Stellarium is how I plate solve and center my target, It looks like this is still catered to the GOTO mounts, I am still waiting on mine to come off of backorder so in the mean time I guess im still waiting before I purchase a PLUS.
I have been using the ASIAIR Pro with great sucess over the past year and to solve the wifi range I attached a power strip to a tripod legs where everything is powered from and also plugged in a TP-Link wifi extender thats connected to my home network and thats plugged in to the RJ-45 connector on the Pro. Other than the Wifi range upgrade is this new one that much better to replace my old Pro?
Cuiv and Trevor - does the plus version support Moravian cameraes?
i have the Asiair pro, but use an Ethernet cable from it as wifi not strong enough to reach the house, but maybe when i can will upgrade to the plus :)
Hey Trevor how do you take videos of nebulae with your setup in foreground with small nebulae in background
I'm curious. Did you go with the Acer laptop you reviewed before. I recall that it was heat and moisture resistant. What model was it?
Awsome 😎
I'm just getting onto after years of using a budget scope to just watch... I'm just learning to track...with a eq and motor drive. I'm getting a bit better. Starting from the bottom up and I felt very happy the first time the planets and moon stood still 🥰
Great Video, I have been thinking about buying this, although, my concern is whether it will take advantage of my Encoders or even if it is compatible with my iOptron GEM28-EC Mount, also, does it work with Explorer Scientific EXOS-2GT PCM-8 Mount, and my Cameras (Canon 5D Mark IV, Nikon D3500, SVBony SV305), I am sure it'll work with my ASI533MC Pro beautifully. But I still like to play with my other cameras too?
Trevor ive been using the asiair since v1 when i first started astrophotography 2 years ago. as much as i loved your videos on the laptop software setup for an imaging session, its all too much work compared to my 15min setup time. im sure i would given up the hobby very quickly, due to frustration
A n00b question but is this ASIAIR Plus happy to work with just a scope with the camera on the back or still need that second finder scope seen here in the video? My gut feeling tells me that just the scope itself is sufficient if you want to do the full auto guiding.
Thx for your insight.
Awesome
A question for you. I have the original ASIAIR and was dismayed to find that you have to Polar Align and then three star align before you can use the app. Does the ASIAIR Plus have the same behaviour? Thanks.
I am using Pro and I haven't experienced any bugs or instability so far (10months). I cannot imagine doing it old fashion way, I don't have backyard.
So I have a question. You said the ASIAir + can be controlled via cellphone or tablet. Can it be also controlled from an indoor Windows Laptop or better a desktop for those of us challenged by small screen displays? Is there software for control of ASIAir+ for windows PC platforms?
Hey have you ever thought about photographing Markarian's Chain?
Thats Awesome..Im Still At Sky Fi3 Level😁Im Getting There.I Can Honestly Say It Truly Was a Game Changer,But I Like Learning And Doing Things Manually Before Going Remote..Clear Skies❤️🙏🏼🔭✨🌏
I would love to get an ASIAIR plus
Can you view the red telescope camera to view on a large 40 inch flat tv monitor using HDMI cable connected from camera to tv?
NiSi Optics came out with a filter called Star Soft Astrophotography Filter. Could you review it someday? Thank you
I just got the ASI AIR Pro say about 6 months. I just wish they make an attachment can cable that can slip through the side openings. I'm not going to drill a hole as I've seen one other do online to add the antenna.
Does this work with just the star adventurer and the air unit and dslr? Or do you need all axis of tilt with your mount
Do you still you use Asiair? I’m starting to merge into astrophotography and I’m trying to decide between using mini pc with Nina to asair mini. Nina seems very complex to learn before I could start imagining.
I have watched several videos from various users of this device but I am still confused about the cabling. If I have the ASI Air Plus USB connected to the hand controller of my mount do I still need the cable from the guide scope to mount? The documentation on connections for this thing are weak!
This has to be the game changer
I have been using astroberry (raspberry pi4) for my rig. It works well but the interface is very complex. I may try this to see if it’s more intuitive.