2015 Subaru Forester XT Ep.147: Death Wobble! Replacing a Front Lower Control Arm

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  • @hamongog
    @hamongog 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you. Aside from the exposed garage insulation, we are the same! What a victory. Going down your same path in a few weeks. Wish me luck!

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  10 месяцев назад

      hey hammy, do you have plywood covering your insulation? i thought about it, but i think i'd lose a lot of my mount options.

    • @hamongog
      @hamongog 10 месяцев назад

      @@LastHumansGarage I'm a shelf guy. Guess I got it from my parents who were into food storage. Shelves everywhere. The shed is where I mount shit to walls. I've resisted becoming a mechanic but I can't afford to hire it out anymore than I can trust those I hire. Should have invested in myself sooner but tools are a rabbit hole. One can only go down so many rabbit holes at once.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  10 месяцев назад

      @@hamongog brother, i been making a bunch of mini shelves lately.. i think its in my new house video coming out IN 10 MINS... ; )

  • @festerbestertester2232
    @festerbestertester2232 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video, and the posts from the repair manual (is this a Haynes?) - this is incredibly helpful, so thank you for taking the time to make it understandable. Our 2015 only has 40,000 miles on it, so figure it has another 10 years but a few things are starting to go - control arm bushings are getting dry and cracked, not a lot of wobble yet, but the garage wanted $1100 bucks to replace two of them, and I got the pair from Rock Auto for ~$200 bucks. A few hours in the garage and done. Thanks again!

  • @lesleyadkins6487
    @lesleyadkins6487 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video! My 2015 just started making this noise and wanted to confirm that it was the bushings. I won't be changing them myself but now I at least know what to ask for.

  • @kj232009
    @kj232009 Год назад

    Gotta love this guys personality

  • @torahislife
    @torahislife 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! Dealing with the exact symptoms on my 2015 Foresstor. After rebalancing and rotating tires twice in past 6 months, I replaced rotors which made braking smooter, but did not fix the wobble at 60-70mph. Next I suspected the CV joint, and I just noticed the lower bushing looked worn. I also noticed the drain tube for AC condensation is positioned right over the control arm on the passenger side - WTF Subaru!? I believe this is causing the bushing failure,. After watching your video, I'm 99% certain it's that bushing in the lower control arm and I will always attempt DIY before paying obscene amounts to a "professional". Local mechanics are charging $900 for this job, so I greatly appreciate your diagnoses and HOW TO video. Hopefully, I will realize the same success as you did. THANKS!

  • @andrzejkasprzyk7967
    @andrzejkasprzyk7967 5 месяцев назад

    Hi This is best Video, I have problem with My 2015 Forester shake a lot ,Im going to work to replace LCA for sure ,Keep Up good work

  • @Isuckateverythingz
    @Isuckateverythingz 2 года назад +1

    Super helpful video. U helped me diagnose and fix my death wobble. Took it to a couple mechanics and they were scratching their head at what it could be. They kept saying either the tires were out of balance or the alignment.
    I ended up changing both the front drivers and passenger side lower control arms and it fixed the death wobble and feels tons tighter and handles so much better.
    My Forester XT had about 90k miles. I’m glad I changed them both out bc both sides had cracks and tears in them but the drivers side was the worst.
    Cheers!

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      nice one.. i still have to do my other side if i ever get around to it.

    • @byunique2
      @byunique2 Год назад

      I was having a bad wobble while hitting 60mph just going straight. Got a set of new tires and alignnment, most of the wobble went away, except for driving downhill at 60mph+ and turning left only... This video def is going to help me deal with the passenger control arm now. I inspected mine and can definitely feel the play with the car jacked up, it's bad!

  • @1jimjiminy
    @1jimjiminy Год назад

    Good video Mitchell. Detailed 50 years old. Sure. How old do you feel? Keep up the good work man. Very informative. Something to be proud of

  • @MauroToneatti
    @MauroToneatti Месяц назад

    You’re lucky you have no rust. My 2018 is full of rust underneath (rust belt of Canada) and I’m dreading to replace mine once they’re toast!

  • @joselitogiron4988
    @joselitogiron4988 Год назад

    You're dammed right... last human garage is the best tutorial that I've seen. Thanks bro.... much appreciated!😊

  • @collin711311
    @collin711311 2 года назад +1

    thanks for this video. I'm about to tackle this same project on my 2016. Your attitude and commentary remind me so much of exactly how I act when Im wrenching around on something, haha.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      thanks my man

    • @collin711311
      @collin711311 2 года назад

      I had a really hard time getting the new ball joint into place. Used a rotary tool and sanded away any old rust/debris from the knuckle so the joint could finally get tapped in w/ a mallet. After that, smooth sailing.

  • @Loribethdi
    @Loribethdi Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video. You did a great job at explaining what you were doing and why you were doing it that way. I'll be replacing both sides this weekend and I'm feeling pretty confident after watching this.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  Год назад +1

      U got this Lori-Meister

    • @Loribethdi
      @Loribethdi Год назад

      @@LastHumansGarage thank u soo much. I needed a little extra muscle when the breaker bar trick wasn't cutting it for me (I'm tiny) but other than that everything went smoothly. My husband's car is now fixed and he was quite happy that I was able to pick him up from work yesterday in his car. He's been getting rides from his dad all week because he couldn't drive it on the highways.

  • @ericheineman01
    @ericheineman01 2 года назад +1

    Been battling the control arm bushing for a few hours.. just found your video and the hammer wedge spreading technique to drop the ball, unique! Watched plenty of other videos, this is the right way! reminds me of how I remove the battery terminals when they stuck together. Thank you much!

  • @HoneyBunches.
    @HoneyBunches. 2 года назад +2

    Same thing on my 2015 SJ. Just reached 100,000 miles. Had to replace my driver side arm a few months ago, and now have to the my passenger side one. Thanks for making these videos, very helpful. Have been coming back to them ever since I got my SJ.

  • @byunique2
    @byunique2 Год назад

    Dude!!! definitely appreciate the video and it was amazing as the ball joint dropped after you got that chisel in place. Done this too many times on different cars with ball joint pullers, forks and the like. Love it when it falls out like butter!!!. I'm going to do this job soon, and thanks for going through step by step and the thinking process, etc. My wife has been saying the car has been riding kind of rough... like you, now I am paying attention to her... lol! Also I had changed out my tires and had alignment done, while that helped with the wobble driving straight and going 55mph+ , I was still getting a wobble turning left while driving downhill at 60mph+ or so. You definitely helped me pinpoint this and am confident it will fix it. My alignment number on the right side came came out to be .92 degrees instead of the spec of .50", have a a feeling the shot bushing is attributing with that!!! THANKS THANKS THANKS!

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  Год назад

      dude, i have my piece for the other side sitting in my garage. DO NOT only do 1. you'll waste $ on alignment.

    • @byunique2
      @byunique2 Год назад

      @@LastHumansGarage yeah for sure, im doing both!

  • @Rustyrailhead
    @Rustyrailhead Год назад

    Haven't had this issue with my 2011 with 146,000 miles but i now do need work on the front as the Driver side tire wearing on the outside edge.. Will have dealer replace the struts and some lower CA bushing.

  • @TerryWhite-t2e
    @TerryWhite-t2e Год назад

    Great video. Getting ready to do my 2018 Forester. Just to confirm.. My torque specs on the sway bar linkage shows 33.2 ft lbs and I believe you torqued yours to 45. No biggie, just want to be consistent. Thanks again for the great video.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  Год назад

      i must have looked it up tho. anything between 35-45 is prob good

    • @TerryWhite-t2e
      @TerryWhite-t2e Год назад

      @@LastHumansGarage Thank you! Just finished the driver side. OMG! My ball joint was a pain the a$$ to remove. And just as difficult to re-install. You got lucky on yours!! My video would have gone viral with all of the expletives used. LOL Anyway thank you for the great video, I'm sure the passage side will be easier now.

  • @lucid484
    @lucid484 2 года назад +2

    The EXACT same bushing just went out on the control arm on my 2014..Replacing it in a few days. I'm at 136,000 miles though. Apparently the AC condensate drain tube drains onto this area and rots them out faster. I also just bought an entire complete control arm . It was $80 for the unit or $40 for all the separate bushing and then the hassle of renting the tool and replacing them.

    • @byunique2
      @byunique2 Год назад +2

      AC drain tube... crazy, was wondering why the passenger side seems to wear out faster!

    • @Loribethdi
      @Loribethdi Год назад

      Hmm... now that I know this I'm wondering if there's a way to reroute it and have it drain in a better spot. It was the passenger side of my husband's car that went on us too. I don't want to do this job again a year from now if I can avoid it. My back is killing me from all the work I did yesterday. (I changed the transmission fluid yesterday too). It was definitely a long day so I've been relaxing for the most part today.

    • @lucid484
      @lucid484 Год назад +1

      @@LoribethdiI haven't fixed mine yet either. From what I was reading online, some people just bought a longer hose so it would drain away from stuff..Maybe zip tied it to something I assume.

    • @Loribethdi
      @Loribethdi Год назад

      @@lucid484 yeah that's what I'm thinking.

    • @byunique2
      @byunique2 Год назад +1

      @@Loribethdi I did this job yesterday too and feel your pain. Took two ibuprofen, quite a workout! My car is still on stands, thanks for the reminder to check that tube as my car is still on jackstands, so will take a peek

  • @chrisblurton5883
    @chrisblurton5883 2 года назад

    you saved me i ton of grief

  • @dankie44
    @dankie44 3 года назад +1

    best tutorials on youtube!

  • @matthewshultz8762
    @matthewshultz8762 Год назад

    I had the same thing happen to my 2017 Forester 2.5. Started off small, only noticeable at certain speeds, then about a week later it was extremely bad and almost constant above 60 mph. It was funny, turning the wheels right made it go away, but staying straight or slightly left it would vibrate like crazy. We put the car up on a hoist, grabbed the wheel and rocked it up/down and saw the movement at the bushing. I'm going to pull the lower a-arms and just replace the bushings with new polyurethane ones. Stock ones only lasted 70k... I intend to keep this car until it blows up so it's worth investing 150 for new bushings instead of 100 for just a single arm.

  • @jholl7339
    @jholl7339 2 года назад +2

    Having the exact same issue with my 2018, right now. Just a note: Instead of lowering the car to torque those bolts, you could've just left the jack under the control arm/spindle location, and let the weight rest down on it. Same thing, as if you would lower it back down on the ground. So long as the suspension geometry is the same, you're golden, AND with the tire not there to work around, it's a huge plus.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      true

    • @Adoula7
      @Adoula7 Год назад

      Hey! I’m having the same issue on my 2018 forester. It started at 130,000km. How about you? Can you just change the one with the issue instead of doing both at the same time?

  • @CarlosLopez-tm7bp
    @CarlosLopez-tm7bp 2 года назад

    Same issue! You are the best

  • @george8943
    @george8943 Год назад +1

    What is the torque specification on that last piece bolt of control arm?

  • @shaund2863
    @shaund2863 2 года назад +2

    I had the exact same issue with my 2018 Forester with 65,000kms. Subaru replaced both lower control arms under warranty here in Australia.

    • @YR1947
      @YR1947 2 года назад

      hey, shaun just dealing with the same issue. Did you purchase extended warranty with Subaru or is it covered under the original warranty?

  • @dmperry1974
    @dmperry1974 3 года назад +3

    I had mine replaced several times, it's usually the left side of my XT that gets the wobble. I wish they made a high performance part for that control arm issues. My best advice is to change both at the same time.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +2

      Ya.. I should have.. damn.

    • @thebagdersarse5824
      @thebagdersarse5824 3 года назад +1

      Whiteline make front and rear bushes (front control arm) with a lifetime warranty.

    • @dmperry1974
      @dmperry1974 3 года назад

      @@thebagdersarse5824 thanks for info, I'll look into it.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      Naw I don’t want any stiffer..

    • @GTI_CHHA
      @GTI_CHHA 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage Did I hear correctly that the alignment is more expensive than 1 complete control arm?

  • @vash337
    @vash337 9 месяцев назад

    I put the wrx/sti front lcas after having that bushing fail twice in short time. It's a bad design for the front wheel to hang on that bushing

  • @nickemangione
    @nickemangione 3 года назад

    Happy Birthday brother!

  • @kyleyu7418
    @kyleyu7418 Год назад

    Is there any vibration in the steering wheel when that occurred?

  • @cesarpizarro812
    @cesarpizarro812 Год назад

    FYI, if the nut holding the sway bar link just spins, use #6 hex or Allen wrench and pass through socket to hold the bolt while you turn the nut.

  • @richroj
    @richroj 3 года назад +2

    Mark, don't get rid of it in a year if its been good to you all of these years. mine has been wonderful since I bought it and I haven't made a car payment in 5 years and made various upgrades to it over the years.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      hmmm ya it drives way tighter now, the steering was loose before. but i didnt notice.

    • @GTI_CHHA
      @GTI_CHHA 3 года назад +1

      @@LastHumansGarage I was wondering, now you know exactly where the play was in the old bushing, would it be possible to check that same bushing on the driver side, then you would know if it's still fresh or on the way out..

  • @thebagdersarse5824
    @thebagdersarse5824 3 года назад

    I just resealed my CVT oil pump cover after the leak got worse. I just turned 50 a week ago too, you know when your getting old when you cant read crap. lol

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад

      hmmm do you have to remove the trans to do that?

    • @thebagdersarse5824
      @thebagdersarse5824 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage You can do it either by removing the trans or the motor, I removed and refitted the motor by myself. I'm too old to be crawling around the floor. lol

  • @esley02
    @esley02 3 года назад

    Happy birthday young man

  • @Azspeedin
    @Azspeedin 3 года назад +2

    Happy B-Day old man, I’ll be joining the club in a few years. The license plate is crucial✌️

  • @hendrixandmitch
    @hendrixandmitch 3 года назад

    hey happy belated birthday my friend!!!!!!!!!

  • @mullerandre95
    @mullerandre95 2 года назад

    Thanks bro, you helped me out with this video 😎👍👍👍

  • @ak2112
    @ak2112 3 года назад

    Happy birthday. Love the Golddust 8x10 on the wall.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад

      thanks, its a Mick Foley technically, but I prob love Goldust more anyway

  • @YourHobbyDad
    @YourHobbyDad 3 года назад +1

    Just replaced both LCA at 55k. Took me 2 hours.

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад +1

    Aww dude you got us splashed some PB blaster splurge! Lol

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад

      dude, it screwed up half my clips.. but dont worry, its clear for the last few

  • @Pilzderzeit
    @Pilzderzeit 2 года назад

    Just had to replace both lower control arms on my '15 XT at 103k miles

  • @mashmout
    @mashmout 3 года назад

    Thanks for the Forester content and happy belated birthday 🎂

  • @MiguelGarcia-go7tu
    @MiguelGarcia-go7tu Год назад

    Great video. it really helped me to get fixed mine. BTW, I also need to replace the sway bar bushings. Do you have the torque specs for the bushing brackets. Thanks. Happy new year!

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  Год назад

      Nope.. but I do know I just ordered the other side last night. Big mistake not doing both sides on this video. Now I gotta pay for alignment again

    • @MiguelGarcia-go7tu
      @MiguelGarcia-go7tu Год назад

      @@LastHumansGarage I ment torque specs for the front sway bar bushing brackets.

  • @Royhh13
    @Royhh13 2 года назад

    Where did you get the instruction manual?

  • @workbreaklounge3755
    @workbreaklounge3755 2 года назад

    13:16 "Spread that faucker" haha 😄

  • @saadajja208
    @saadajja208 2 года назад

    Where do you find instructions for the repairs?
    Thank you for the video

  • @doasis5142
    @doasis5142 2 года назад +1

    Your video helped me a lot. Anyways did the wheel alignment corrected the abs , hillside , traction problems? Just replaced mine last week on my 2016 forester and had the same issues.

  • @PRO4XKEV
    @PRO4XKEV 3 года назад

    Nice job Mark.. 50 huh.. I turned 60.

  • @GTI_CHHA
    @GTI_CHHA 3 года назад

    Brother.... Of course we are still here :-) Happy belated birthday! Believe it or not, I hope to turn 50 end of this month, how close it that? LOL
    For the cars, I believe that the best is still to come :-) By the way, this Forrestor swap seems like a nice warm-up for the front Billies on your GTI! I can't wait to join you in that video adventure, as for sure I will do have to do this job next year, as my front is sagging and getting vague now that she is tight in the rear. But I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it wihout THE modding video from LHG.
    Since you are still reading this comment I might as well come forward: I just slapped on them nasty looking original 17 inch Brooklyn alloys with winter tires as temperatures are starting to drop towards zero degrees Celcius. Cha cha cha out.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      wow youre 49 too. bro.. the GTI front job will be a lot harder than that.. i might never even do it honestly. I have zero money for the car these days, as we just spent $10,000 on a small bathroom remodel

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      oh and bro.. i wonder when my conti's will need to be swapped out.. its still 75F here these days...

    • @GTI_CHHA
      @GTI_CHHA 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage Bro... yeah, I get that a lot.. LOL. Wow, the bathroom redeco is a big ticket, that's like 2 years of mods minimum...

    • @GTI_CHHA
      @GTI_CHHA 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage My policy is to do it while the weather is still nice and enjoy doing it. I see many folks trying to slap on the winters when the first snow is coming down... no fun

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад

      @@GTI_CHHA the bathroom is costing us $10k.. just to convert the old iron tub to a shower.. then ill be doing all the painting, floor, cabinets, sink myself, at additional cost.

  • @pelizdr
    @pelizdr 2 года назад

    2015 Forrester with almost 200k miles, this sounds like the problem I am having, question is was the alignment off before you did the work? I just had an alignment with new tires but would rather not have to pay for it again.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      You def without doubt need an alignment after. And do both at once

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      When control arm is that loose alignment is way off

  • @Luz.lituma
    @Luz.lituma 2 года назад

    Mine doing that right now 😕

  • @davidspez7267
    @davidspez7267 3 года назад

    We're all getting older 😁 - congrats man, rinkles are the trials and tribulations of life.

  • @jose15238
    @jose15238 3 года назад

    So whats the best spray paint combo for gloss black? I know you have experimented a lot. Im thinking of painting a grill gloss black.

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      The key is using 2k ClearMAXX over the top. but if i had to choose a paint for a grill.. prob just basic engine enamel 500F. But you can test both a gloss black and a flat black under a clear coat, they may look similar, but one may look better. (You dont need gloss paint if you are putting a clear over it anyway)

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад

      or i'd use my DEI silicone exhaust spray stuff, but that has a slightly more satin feel to it than normal gloss.

    • @jose15238
      @jose15238 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage nice! I am planning of using the 2k clear coat. Hopefully it comes out good like your front vw emblem.

    • @jose15238
      @jose15238 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage nice! I am planning of using the 2k clear coat. Hopefully it comes out good like your front vw emblem.

  • @koalatsang7336
    @koalatsang7336 2 года назад

    Hi , may I know where can I find the torque spec information of 4th gen forester xt
    Thanks a lot

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  2 года назад

      google usually is good for that type of thing my friend.

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад

    BRO HAPPY B DAY!

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад

    Wonder if you’re going to need an alignment

  • @TimT0m461
    @TimT0m461 3 года назад +2

    Jeeez! Are you 80years old,or? You grunt like one. :D

  • @lowpez55
    @lowpez55 3 года назад

    Hey bud. Live the channel been following a long time.
    My question you once mentioned a fuel cleaner once . It was in the forester videos it was something 44 or 404
    Could you tell me what is the name again. I can’t find it on your videos

  • @The808producer
    @The808producer 3 года назад +1

    Just replaced lower control arm bushing on leon mk3...what a diference...before was wobbly on highway (left and right auto steering :D )... now is like on train track :)...even the alignment now is on point and is hoilding, before they align it, but the car was still pulling to the side..

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      bro, my steering was so much tighter afterwards

    • @The808producer
      @The808producer 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage yep , how little is needed to make some stuff better 😁 for 16 eur per bushing and the car is like new 🤷🏻(lemforder bushings)

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 3 года назад

    OK so I guess you do need an alignment lol

  • @nanallen1
    @nanallen1 2 года назад +1

    Help ! Took our 2015 Forester to local dealer for 65,000 oil change, tire rotation etc. Had NO problems. Picked up car - hand brake not good - loose, wobbly, didn’t engage for measurable uplift distance. Returned. Then, very tight. Returned. Sort of okay. But, 3 days later - downhill braking - extreme vibration - in steering wheel and whole car. Is this also the control arm or warped rotors ? What happened ?

  • @scottobrien963
    @scottobrien963 3 года назад +1

    Why would you only do one side!? 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @LastHumansGarage
      @LastHumansGarage  3 года назад +1

      cuz i don't fix things until they break. ya, ill have to align again.. if it happens before the car is sold in a few months.

    • @scottobrien963
      @scottobrien963 3 года назад

      @@LastHumansGarage how many miles? Whats next?