Anduin ABANDONS The LIGHT! THIS IS HUGE! (TWW Alpha)
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Everyone has been talking about Anduin's trauma and him losing his faith in the Light which caused the massive transformation but by all the evidence so far it seems like he is the one that abandoned the light and not the other way around. First of all we had Anduin hiding from Turalyon, if he was having trouble in his faith wouldn't he consult with him first.
Now in the War Within alpha not only have we datamined his sword without the light just like it was in the artwork but we have a whole conversation of Anduin talking about how there are things we don't know about Azeroth and the cosmological forces and how his relationship with the light is different. So what does Anduin know that we don't as with learning about what he Light crystal really is and the Light undead it seems like things really are changing?
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I think when he was dominated the light didn't come to save him and that would destroy anyone's faith if it was them trapped and not being rescued by their faith.
Nah, they foreshadowed him turning into a shadow priest in BFA. Even though hearthstone isn't lore there is also a shadow Anduin card so I think it's still more likely he turns shadow.
I think the deviance from the light is part of the story arch to him becoming the “redeemed hero”, and the Arathi will help him discover his true power.
There was a comic showing him in the future leading the Army of Light as an old man, so unless they are deviating from that idea, I assume Anduin will attain mastery of the light or even a greater power behind it.
The war within could actually be about the war going inside Anduin. I trust that this would be the narative, the road of Anduin till he reaches peak, as in Velen's Vision. A road that peaks with the war inside him while Azeroth is going through the same type of war.
Holy crap! I just realized, TWW is about work burnout. Anduin, Magni and Thrall all were cut off from their thing (light, azeroth, the elements), they ahve a thing that is what they do, their job, and they find that due to their own internal changes they are unable to do what they do. It's burnout.
that explains the missing amulet of azeroth on his metallic neck
Explains why we haven't seen Anduin in a while, he's been working from home.
they are all quiet quitting
Anduin: I have no light!
Scarlet Crusade: Purging with my kin!!!
Anduin has lost faith in himself. The scarlet crusade has complete faith they are doing what is right(light doesn’t care whether what your doing is right or wrong just cares if you have faith in your cause)
Meaning it's not as permanent or drastic as some make it out to be.
He's in a bad spot and gets his dads expirience as a warrior now, but once he belives in himself again the light is right with him.
Anduin has lost Faith into the Light. But that doesn't mean the Light has lost faith into him.
@@PhoenixEnjoyer Well said, but only partly true. Anduin said that he was not sure that if he called out to the light, it would respond. He is afraid that he is no longer worthy of light. If Blizzard didn't rewrite the script again after SL
He's a paladin so he lost all of his power. He can always regain this though. It's more of a temporary thing as long as your alignment doesn't change which his probably didn't. His family line were always the strongest warriors of the alliance though. So maybe he can turn into a badass now.
I remember I met him as a young boy. I feel old now. Smh
Right? The boy king, crazy how much he's grown and gone through
Anduin changed his class 3 times already lol
He keeps rerolling
@@OnlyGhostType Disc Priest to Holy Paladin to Frost DK to Arms Warrior....
@@influx8450 He is going to reroll demonology warlock next
@@Navhkrin and then Survival Hunter with a dog named Shoopy
This is his first time rerolling tho 😅
He's always been a priest.
So he become a full pledged warrior just like his father...
@isreallytoastyhere3711 well, since he has basic priest skill he can become a good paladin, but since he decided to abandon the light he become a lvl 1 warrior.
@@TheKobasenhe hasn't abandon light yet..
@@TheKobasenI think he will find the light again, just not the light that he served before. A more primal version of the light. Like the fire that the Arathi in war within seem to use. Which is a different version of the light (seemingly. Not confirmed.)
Its just like Thrall after the duel with Garrosh. Just eventually he belives in himself again and the light is right back.
Remember even Scarlet fanatics could tourture and kill with it. All because of belive.
You still have to consider it is possible to still wield the light regardless of your goals and morals, just need to think you are doing "the right thing"
I wonder where the conversation will go when people realise that Turalyon will never be an enemy of Anduin.
Well people have been raving since his introduction that he will turn into some fascist holy zealot despite there being no indication of that lol.
@@justinb7494 I rather see the contrary, he gets conned by Yrel and fucks up but ultimately will have to chose between his wife and the light and we all know what will he chose. I say we will see Turalyon lose being a lightforged
@@bfedezl2018 Yeah that's what I've been saying will happen. Something goes south for Azeroth and finds a way to reach out to Yrel and her army not knowing what he's really done. He can be a hothead but can also come to his senses.
As long as Turalyon remains brainwashed by the zealots of the light, he'll always be a enemy of Anduin. Even if he don't realize it.
Those BFA vision of Nzoth scenarios had a scene about turalyon and alleria in it….
Anduin is probably very angry and thinking "screw the light, you weren't there for me when I needed you", but I think he just needs to be reminded of the signs he has seen himself, when he was at his most vulnerable and Zovaal almost had him, he saw his father and Saurfang, I think there's allot in that vision, I don't think it was just a memory!
About Fel, this is why I don't think Varian Wrynn's soul was destroyed, something took his spirit before he died, go back to the Legion cinematic and look at Gul'Dan, he struggled to kill Varian, something knew Anduin would need his fathers help and that's why we've seen Varian twice after his death!
I think this is the best time ever to be a Warcraft player!
No. Just no. Watch the videos with Anduin at the end of SL. Anduin thinks that he is unworthy of the light (at the same time, the light does not care how it is used as long as the believer is confident in himself and his rightness, and Anduin doubts himself). Anduin made excellent use of both light and darkness when under the control of the Jailer.
I want light anduin back I was so geeked when he started looking like a paladin 💔
I'm thinking he finds a way to use it that doesn't feel wrong. That's my guess for TWW. Gonna learn a bit about the cosmic forces and maybe find out there are more pure versions than what we think of as light and void.
I want a Void Paladin specialization already
@@hobosnake1 yea thats what im hoping for
@@AngerySnek i would love a 4th either radiant like fire ret version or shadow / void would be epic
Same my friend! He is just lost, the light will redeem him when he lets it back in. I think what the devs are going for is something like Thomas Aquinas, or even Job. Being put through hell only to emerge stronger and more committed.
His ingame model looks so goofy
I like how Anduin in cinematics is Leonardo DiCaprio and in-game he's Gérard Depardieu
In the bfa cinematic he looked like Brad Pitt
@@KackfeeLP i thought the same brad pitt and in the new one he looks like stephen amell lol
By next cinematic he will have the Gigachad jawline.
I swear people going from calling Anduin "Manduin" to "Methduin" is funny.
@@sophiexdark1416this us the comment I was trying to find. Literally my first thought when I saw Anduin.
To be honest, the way they tried forcing Illidan to convert always remained as a huge red flag to me.
Alleria will teach him to use the void. Void priest anduin.
What's the Void's version of a Paladin? Voidadin? (nah, that sounds dumb)
@@NostraDavid2idk Void Knight? Basicly the void version Of the Paladin and Death Knight.
Hmmm Void Crusader? Void Rider? Void Killer,Void hunter,Void Reaper
@@simionmatei9715
Singularion, Centurion from the singularity of a black hole. Gravity based abilities & time manipulation, crushing enemies then holding them at the most painful moment before death for eternity. A force of nature so powerful not even the light can escape him. :p
Guy has gone through more class changes than Thrall has changed underwear.
Joke's on you, Thrall's going commando.
@@BalooSJ
For The wHored!
So Thrall and Anduin are gonna be both warriors now. The two big representatives for their people's faiths (Orc Shamanism and Human's Light) are being reduced to just... warriors. I'm sorry but that makes them a hell of a lot less special and interesting in my opinion. The strength of a warrior time and again has been proven to not be enough. Saurfang. Varian. Warriors trying their best brought low because magic is always going to outclass you.
"not a theory"
Gives us the most crazy theory possible
If the Scarlet Crusade has taught me anything, it's probably less him having abandoned the light and more the light not responding to him because his conviction is gone
Nahhh he will be back all radiant and all when the Light responds ro him when he needs it most .
Alt draenor Yrel: DID I HEARD HERESY YOUNG MAN?!
I'm getting serious "YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY" vibes from Anduin these days.
Anduin has used the void before, right?
Yes, in Pandaria and again, if I'm remembering correctly, in the Shadows Rising novel. There may have been other instances, but those are the big two that I know of
Like I said in some of your old video. He is he's father's son. Like father, like son. he will now be A warrior.
I think Anduin will take a liking to the Arathi, he’ll find the light he has become so accustom too, to be an abomination, and feeling the warmth of the holy flame, Anduin, will be able to channel the uncontrollable holy flame unlike any other before him. The light chose him, but now that he has his hands on the true light, he will transcend out understanding of the holy flame, and use it like no other has before. I also believe that the Holy flame is Azeroth. That Azeroth is not a world soul, but rather a star soul. Think about what the sun does for its universe. Azeroth is creation, she is a star soul, the first, and the titans recognize her power because of this. Which is why they are so hell bent on dominating her. Anduin, will rise as a true champion of Azeroth.
Necromancy is necromancy you perceive a difference where there is none child
those are the words of the Primyus, but he has no clue about the Light.
He knows about Death/Domination magic. Period.
He is basically becoming a warrior like his father.
i'm really excited to see where anduins storyline go as just before the war within was announced i found myself at odds with my own religion and i also buzzed all my hair off so i'm finding anduin relatable for the first time ever the shaved head in many different religions is a symbol of restarting your life as your life and memories flows through your hair so shaving it all off can represent a rebirth of sorts
Your conclusions are very entertaining, keep it up!
Anduin going to Velen for advice now would be wild since Velen too has low key said fuck the light…well realized it isn’t “perfect”. From seeing it try to turn illidan through force and when he lost his son(his son blaming him nd the light) and the light not helping Velen with his son
Nothing wrong with the light, problem is those of high power twist the light into something it's not ment to be. Greed/thirst for power corrupts all, even light users, and the greater light power they can use the more it corrupts them. Same with all the different forces, they are not good or evil, it's the ones that use those powers that become good or evil (or unknowing evil like alot of light users)
@@patrickmurray3846 the literal naaru(light being) trying to turn illidan against his will. They are the light not light users
@@patrickmurray3846 who said they were good or evil? Only said seeing their true nature and plans. Which is a selfish nature, not the benevolent beings he thought
The light desires as mutch power and control as the other cosmological forces.
It's not evil, but it's not good either. Its only desire is to preveil and control.
@@Fact0nia and again who said they were good or evil? Just that they are only worried about themselves and their own plans
Light and Void are probably both the same in the sense they want to destroy the universe and leave nothing else left.
I think it's rather dumb to downplay his trauma because he has gone through tough shit before. I think there's a world of difference between losing your mom as a child and being mind controlled. The whole reason he's torn is because he's not sure where the Jailer's influence ended and the real Anduin began. He might've enjoyed committing atrocities, but was that because he was under the Jailer's control, or is he actually darker than he previously thought?
I honestly think it's such a shame when you draw these huge conclusions based on vague speculation, and instead of presenting it as a theory, you present it as a solid reason, as if it's a fact. "The Jailer knows everything about the First Ones" says who? He's surely more familiar with them than us, but that's not what you're saying. It sucks, because every time I start feeling invested in your videos, you start pulling the clickbait bullshit and start pulling facts out of thin air just to support the narrative of your current video. Which is a shame, because they COULD be really good.
Hyper realistic HD Anduin looks nearly identical to Bradley Nowell from Sublime.
Make him lich king🗿
Maybe if Anduin would just fking tell someone whats going on. Is he going to play 20 questions? Maybe hot and cold?
Damn it Magni! He doesn't give a flip now about Azeroth's wooounds?
Guys, the light's just as bad as the void or fel. You know, the one that drives you insane and the one that destroys your soul
"the light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all"
Anduin's mistake is that it took too hard of what happened to him as if it's all his fault and what came out of that, he forgot that he is so fucking strong that he broke domination many times, he underestimates himself so much, it's just absurd.
He needs to start caring for himself at some point instead of keep pity himself so much.
I can see how he was more priest like younger, I thought he was a paladin tho lol. I guess he looked more paladin as he got older and that big plate armor he wore
Anduin is Rexxar and if you did the questline in mop you would see that.
I hope Anduin bounces back and returns to the light. He has always been the character who bounces back when others didn’t.
He got corrupted like Arthas, but bounced back.
Now he lost his powers and got depressed like Thrall. But I hope he bounces back and doesn’t become a Thrall copy.
Battle of Stormwind coming with turalyon main boss and player character in Alliance with Anduin
That is Stephen Amell not Anduin anymore, he is going to become a marks hunter and his new name will be Arrow.
Anduin is going to be a new Specialization Shaman
After getting the core of the Arbiter and the 4 sigils of the shadowlands , how powerful was the Jailer at that point , was he above Sargeras?
Void anduin would be interesting to see and an unexpected change to this games story as its been pretty much linear and easy to guess next stuff.
No he hasn't lol because he is still looking for light and yes he isn't hiding from turalyn 😒😊
it feels like every xpac anduin changes to a new class now.... (first from priest to paladin in bfa, then to dk in shadowlands, now to warrior or whatever?)
He just needs him some of that Dark Lady loving.
Well light has always rivaled death, remember Tirion fordring using light to break free and shatter FM, Jailer was probably trying to use this to his advantage, since he saw how Anduin could possibly be the next big threat to his plans like tirion, but crappy writing got the best of that plot I guess. What could have been a great storyline turned into a shoddy piece of work. Anyways another way of looking at light and death relation would be, what happens to Na'aru when they die ?
He literally saved an army from death in the battle of lordaeron against sylvanas.. abandons light.. ok
Turalyon's story started the same way as Anduin's right now.
Can anyone tell me @ 10:20 what music is playing I love it so much
It’s from BFA. Usually heard in warfronts (arathi), Boralus, and other areas.
Don't worry with the power of friendship he'll find the light again because you know warcraft story is a joke now.
Dam the light was sick for Christians playing wow. Hope the light doesn’t turn out to be corrupted or playing paly and priest just becomes strange.
They might pull something off like did they in ff14 shadowbringer
@@jasantana I’m not familiar
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It's possible the Light Anduin will regain might be the one based in fire. It's possibly the true Light like in Warcraft Orcs and Humans.
So he will be a warrior now?
Imagine calling trauma a weakness x.x
I always thought he was supposed to be a paladin. Huh.
I'm pretty sure he was a paladin
Maybe he wants to be a warrior like his father
So since Andiun got P Diddi'd by the jailer he feels big bad now and doesn't like the light touching him?
Anduin didn't abandon the light, the light abandoned him.
I think he feels abandoned by it, and that has caused him to lose faith in both himself and the light.
in addition: I think he also feel the light abandoned a lot of the souls he saw and inflicted pain upon during his... shenanigans?
sooo anduin goes "I'M MY SCARS".. typical blizzard
He will become the Banduin lol
No light...poor anduin...for a pala that's quite the nerf bat. Now he's barely a level 30 Warrior.
He'll get boosted
@@ironfist7789 or he'll turn into a shadow priest 🙊
Anduin was a Paladin not a priest XD... that said, what if they create a new subclass of paladin? like a shadow paladin :0
I'll say it just once: This *would* be super cool if it were so.
Sadly, I have a strong fear that Blizzard will just make it a "lost his faith because he feels guilty / undeserving 😔" storyline, and I don't want to get my hopes up too high so they're not crushed.
Why do i feel Turalyon is gonna become the actual main antagonist
I would be so disappointed if they went that route. It's just too easy. We've seen that kind of plot twist soooo many times in movies/series/games, it won't mean anything anymore...
@@tyriana..340 yes i agree, and seeing how anduin is given up on the light and turalyon is literelly represented as an incarnation of it really makes me think theres going to be that plot twist where turalyon is gonna start disagreeing with everyone and gonna become the antagonist
I just want his sword already or something very similar…
I dont think he abandoned the light so much as he feels unworthy to weild it. Weilding the light has always been one of conviction not good or evil. It requires you to have unwavering faith and belief in your cause and connection to the light. When he felt that unworthiness, the connection was broken. I have a feeling through his journey though he will reconnect to the light, but I don't think he will be a priest. I think the acts he committed forced him into accepting violence as a way to act, I'm willing to bet he takes on more of a paladin role.
It is actually nothing serious, he just swapped classes...This is how many wow players feel should I play a dk, warrior or priest/paladin? This is now Anduin.
My bro listened Asmon about being Warrior
People saying Anduin forsakes the light for void, what if.... what if he becomes the first Voidhunter class? Or a spec of the Demonhunter? The light wanted to turn Illidan to help fight the demons and the void, what if Anduin had seen enough to know that you had to use void to fight void, like fire with fire? He could become a dual wielding void hero class!
Anduin...doesn't seem to have the fortitude to become a demon hunter, or DH adjacent.
Though I do wonder what Blizz is planning on doing with demon hunters now that Illidan is busy dunking on Sargeras up there in the cosmos.
Lightforged undead allied race confirmed?
I'm calling it now
Azeroth is evil and actually the one pulling the strings, the old gods are the good guys
I fucking knew it! HE REROLLED!
I think all these cosmological forces need to back off azeroth before they get their shiz rocked by us players!
Wouldnt it be awesome anduin walking in his father's foot steps...way of the warrior. One can dream
Wouldn't he be a paladin turned warrior not a priest turned warrior?
Light is a single path. “Darkness” or whatever you wanna call it just isn’t as defined. It’s obscured behind overlapping possibilities. You will always find the devil you’re looking for. Dogmatic beliefs can lead you to framing your interpretation & understanding before a decision actually needs to be made. All person needs to move forward is a heading. Even if it’s the “wrong” one. Hindsight is 20/20 & looking back will always appear clear as day.
He gonna be druid 500%
He was a priest? Thought he was a pally
Started off as one when he was younger. That's why people are making "rerolling" jokes in the comments. Priest - Paladin - Deathknight - Warrior.
Welcome to the Darkside (We have Cookies and Milk)
Maybe a Paladin
I don't like the subversion of established things, like the light being sentient like some Outer God from Elden Ring.
new class -> azerothian champion. Native paladins where they draw their powers from Azeroth.
That sounds freaking awesome and I want it to happen almost as much as the Battlemage, which I'm pretty sure you already know what is.
Why is anduin the only who ages?
I think it's clear that none of the six cosmic forces is "good", as such. I mean, it's pretty clear that a world of Disorder, Death, or Void wouldn't be good, but neither would one of Order, Life, or Light. A world of Order would be a place of stasis, where anything that happened would do so along a pre-determined mechanical path. A world of Life... well, that's what the Everbloom was hinting at, a world where everything is overgrown and choked off, with no place for sapient life. And a world of Light would be one of servitude - just look at what X'ara was doing to Illidan and what Y'rel is doing on Alt!Draenor.
No, just like Lou Bega needs both Monica, Sandra, and Rita in his life, the sapient races of Azeroth need both Light, Disorder, and Void. And Death, Order, and Life. All things in moderation.
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Retail story reads like a fucking woman's soap opera now.
Anduin stops being a priest??? thought he was a paladin, ya know with the whole holy power and sword/sheild thing going on. Pretty sure priests can't use shields.
is he powerless.
They are definitely going to play in on his connection to Azeroth, hence he is the one getting the whispers. Also if you might remember in the Shadowlands it was said that Azeroth saved him even cross-plane.
Hazeldawn : HE'S MINE HE'S ALLLL MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mUHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
No he isn't!...HE'S ALL MINE!!!!!!!!!! LOL
anduin, slave of the jailor. next xpac hes gonna be xal'atath's sub . literally choosing hardmode
Hope he will become a deathknight :DD a real one not a pawn, like Bolvar
I would imagine Anduin in his distress wasn't being cryptic at all.. Anduin has lost his faith in the light..
Anduin went besically into the depths of hell, the light didn't protect him, he saw all the horror's down there, the light didn't protect them, he was being controlled and used to do heinous crimes. the light didn't protect him nor them.
The light failed him.
In conclusion; the light abondoned him, so he feels not worthy to wield it and lost faith in both himself and it.
that genn chose not to tell turalyon tells us a great deal. there is something wrong here, dynamically, that genn doesn't trust turalyon with aduin's status. fanatic that he is, turalyon may force Anduin into a puppet status, in order to take over this world ala Yrel. turalyon doesn't question the motives of the light, while genn and aduin are seeing the cracks in the facade.
Turalyon was lucky AF Illidan didn't respond to his attack in legion
I hate these theories because you all show you don’t in a single thing about his character AT ALL
you know, i always watch these ideal lore videos but it just occurred to me that these are always wrong because the lore devs at blizzard have sucked for years now and they couldn't possibly be this in touch with the story.
I know why Anduin is upset. The jailer touched his no no parts and he doesn't know how to deal now.
Mmmm... hot
His in-game model makes him look bloated and ridiculous.