Sometimes when you're suicidal repeatedly for decades, you pray that it gets so bad this time that you actually find the strength to do it once and for all and never have to face it again.
@@thesnowman7715 I understand this feeling. My dogs have kept me going the last 10 years and sometimes I wonder what happens when I lose them, what reason could there be to hang around when ending it seems so appealing? So then I thought, how can I be better for them in the meantime, just another month, just another year. Knowing I always have the option to leave, can I find anything which makes it less miserable in the meantime? What I found was in fact plenty of reason to keep going til the end. If you are interested in what I found, it was a spiritual awakening journey. It all started with watching near death experiencer interview after interview (Next Level Soul is a good RUclips channel for these).. which held my curiosity long enough to take me out of myself and really examine things, explore and imagine, then study and experiment, and ultimately, experience so much more to life. Sir, this choice is yours and yours alone, and that is a blessing of immense power. The truth is that this same power is available to us as we live our lives, to start identifying less with our circumstances, traumas, ego, and everything else we think we are. May you rediscover yourself.
Reality is, this kind of depression is a demon you cannot defeat. It will always be there and eventually... get you. However, you're still well aware that the only right thing to do is to continue on, as far as you can go. It doesn't feel great to continue fighting, but it pays up someway. At least I heard from someone that hearing this helps.
@@thesnowman7715same here, I’m 18 but when I was in 2nd grade around 2012, I drew a picture of me on top of a building about to jump off. I have never heard of people killing themselves at that age I don’t think. But I was able to feel such immense sadness and loneliness, to have a thought like that at 8 years old. The past 4 years I have had depression and suicidal thoughts on/off. I’m also autistic. I feel broken a lot of times. Anyways, Best of luck to you dude 👍
I felt like this for 23 years and had my first suicidal thoughts when I was 17. Tried to take my life when I was 28/29 and failed. After that things started to get better but now aged 40 and back to were I started. I don’t how much more I can carry on with this pain. My Mum is difficult and toxic and is very ill, which my family have made allowances for but still treat us like crap. My career has gone down the toilet after bad experiences and have no one I can confide in. I’m incredibly lonely and feel I have nothing to live for now. That things will never get better or I can’t get out of this toxic environment. Either way I’m trapped. So I’m serious considering it
@@rebeccayeatesmakeupI'm sorry to hear that, I know that I'm a stranger so my words might not mean a thing, but I can see how strong you are. I really admire you for that resilience. I will wish for the days to become brighter and happier for both of us.
This man inspired me to become a therapist and I work at a psychiatric hospital doing therapy almost exclusively with suicidal people. Thank you so much for all you do, Dr. Peterson.
It isn't just always getting worse. Might feel that way but even if you reach a moment where there is no one to turn to, there will be another moment where you do have people to turn to. I thought about suicide, I am so glad I didn't act, because life got so much better. It wasn't instant, but it got better.
@@malibudolphin3109 i know what you mean. just had a falling out with the last of my friends yesterday. over the past 4 years all the others dropped off after my girlfriend ran off with one of my friends when my mom was dying of cancer.. i posted something simple, a few word sentence on facebook about how aweful people were. i had been dealing with some unwarranted really abusive behavior from people i had been talking to. My friends response was. Jesus man! project much? He had never talked to me like that before and there didn't seem to be anything leading up to it. it made me realize thats what he really thought though.
Once me and some friends recieved a cryptic phone call from a suicidally depressed friend and we all responded very seriously and got him off his 9th floor balcony. Two days later he jumped from it anyway. We saved him for two days. I tell this story often because people torment themselves over what if they had been there at the right moment. Even if you had been theres no guarantee they would still be here, you cant blame yourself.
It also helps to put things in perspective. Had they died of an illness or an accident, the sentiment would be to grieve, but eventually get over it. Especially when adults end themselves, well, they carry some responsibility. Also, check your own emotions: are they genuine? Or are you talking yourself into something here because you know that you are supposed to feel bad about it? Suicide usually doesn't just happen. There are things leading up to it. Has the person become more and more distant over the past, visited or called with decreasing frequency? Apparently that didn't bother you enough to do something about it, so why does their death bother you so much now?
@@Volkbrecht everyone knew how serious it was he had been put in a ward FOUR times. The command and his friends were at a loss. I spoke at hos memorial and said he had an illness that turned out to be terminal
@@Volkbrechttell me you haven't lost someone to suicide without telling me you haven't lost someone to suicide. God, what a dreadful take. Has it occured to you that, like a disease, it goes beyond reason? My friend was fifteen when she killed herself. We did everything we could to get her help and guess what? She didn't want it. She resisted help (no matter what form it came in) every step of the way. Choosing to die by suicide or live is a choice only that person can make. Believe me, those left behind wish they could've made the choice for them to live. It's an excruciating form of loss, in particular because it's met with so much blame and apathy for those left behind (seen here in your comment). I hope it's a loss you never have to endure.
@@loganlabbe9767'm so sorry for your loss. You're absolutely right. It's a disease, and like any other disease it's not governed by fairness or love or reason. This is the same thing I will tell my daughter one day when she asks about the person she was named after. Also, your original comment gave me peace. My friend reminded me often she could end it whenever she wanted to. I struggled a lot at the time with not being 'a good enough reason' for her to stay. Today I'm grateful for the extra days I had with her. All we can do is our best. May they RIP. God bless
@@fff5572 yea I visited him in the ward before hand and begged and begged him to try living for just another couple months and he told me "some people are just meant to die" it sounds cruel but he was a genuinely good person and total sweetheart it just was too much for him in the end
I did tell someone. Which led to the hospital which led to an awful mental hospital stay. Telling did not help. Now here I am three years later wanting to just be gone. No more sharing, no more medications. I'm just done
This is exactly how it works. Telling anyone will only make things worse and at the same time make it more difficult to complete in the future. I’m just waiting on my mom to pass from old age and then I will be on my way as well. Nothing for me here
I lost a close friend to the silent war. He had it all, two amazing little girls, great wife, nice house, solid career and a creative outlet. On the outside, everything was there that the typical person would "need" to be fulfilled & yet he still ended it all. Not a single friend or family member had a clue that he was suffering. It's been 9 years & I still cry for my friend & the wake of perpetual pain left behind for his family. I love you Julian, RIP
Are you sure his family never knew? In my experience at least some or one family member or a friends would have heard from the person that they are very depressed and even suicidal but often the family downplay it and then seem shocked when the person does commit suicide.
@@Chris-i0i0i0 I think it is. Deep depression tends to be hard to hide from anyone but the most insensitive of people. From what seriously depressed and the people who I know from my previous job who went on to die by suicide, they speak but the people around them do not really hear. Sometimes family/friends seem irritated or don't know how to react to deep depression and talk of suicide. Most who kill themselves tend to have been depressed for a very long time and are middle age by the time they succeed and by that time family/friends often become irritated by them overtly or covertly and the depressed person then feels like a burden but hardly ever is suicide just out of the blue and the depression not known to at least one person in the person's inner circle. There used to be a documentary called the Bridge (i think) on youtube that backs up my experience on this.
I lost my best friend to suicide and no one knew he ever thought about it. We were friends for 32 years. Men hide it very well and it is very common to lose someone to suicide and have no idea they would do such a thing. He had just turned 50 and had been promoted at work just prior to his death. I think about him every single day. It’s been 7 years now.
I was having so much suicidal thoughts some years back as a teenage. I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder years ago. Got diagnosed with bipolar. Spent my whole life fighting bipolar. Not until my girlfriend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 3 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
I am in my early-mid 20s. The main reason behind suicidal thoughts is loneliness. When you have dealt with painful experiences on your own and you don't have anybody to share it with and you still face some patterns everyday it gets tough. You may be surrounded by wholesome family but you may still be very lonely because they had no idea and still don't have any idea about how you see the world and what you been dealing with. And when you're fighting on your own for too long , it doesn't take you anywhere it gets very dark.
Not great advice here, but I suggest take time to drink your favourite non alcoholic beverage, listen to Eurodance, and smoke a few cigarettes, because smoking will Kill you just not yet!
I can feel you. If you are able to write this in a comment section of a RUclips video, where you have no idea what people you don't know will reply, you CAN tell someone about this. Talk to someone! As Dr. Peterson says, if you don't have anyone to talk to, go to the hospital. It seems you have a family. I think it's important to talk to them about how you feel. Please take care. 💕🙏
I was suicidal for several years following a childhood and youth marked by CSA, domestic violence and war. I kept myself alive from hour to hour. I said "I can do it in an hour." Eventually, I said "I can do it tomorrow." Eventually I got to the point of "It's the pain talking. I want the pain to stop, I don't want to die." Now, over 20 years into my healing journey, I am no longer suicidal. I am 38 years old and I am grateful to be alive. I still feel pain, I still suffer, I still feel the nearly unbearable panic when I feel abandoned or threatened by someone I love, but I've learned to respect my innate right to live. Healing is not easy at all, but it's a) possible b) worth it.
I'm really sorry to hear your childhood was so awful. Good on you for not giving up on yourself and finding the strength to continue--that's really admirable.
As someone said, suicide is not a choice. It's a math equation. When the suffering, pain and despair exceeds all the resources you can access to deal with it, it happens.
What about people like Robin Williams who had all the resources? Suicide is much deeper than that simple analogy. For if that's the case, why do wealthy people kill themselves and people in the gulag or Nazi camps not kill themselves. It's more correlated to the idea of responsibility/meaning/truth. You should read Man's search for meaning by Victor Frankl.(he was in a variety of nazi camps). His thesis in cliff notes is why don't people kill themselves? He ends up answering it simply because of the meaning derived from whatever gives you the most meaning. When that is taken away, people would then kill themselves. It became his main psychological focus after that. Fascinating find. So it's more then a mere equation, it's a phenomena that is so unbelievably complex that we still haven't answered why people kill themselves. We know the common factors but that's it.
I do. I carry this burden alone. I have no one. All my family has passed away. I have always struggled to make friends. I am scared to decompose into a couch due to no one knowing I have died. I am 36 and my whole life so far has been this. I may be alive, but I do not feel like I am living. Just existing for whatever reason. I just don’t know
You're 36 years old - you're still young, you have more than an entire life ahead of you. Is it possible to find love when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. It starts by loving those around you - there will be SOMEONE that you can show even the tiniest bit of love to, and as you do that, the love will return and will multiply, and will slowly grow like an ember into a flame. Is it possible to find meaning when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. You know deep down that there is a reason why you're here - you're not a mistake. My recommendation is to read the Book of John in the Bible. Even if you hate God, the Bible or Christianity, just give it a go. Praying for you.
As a random person on the internet, I too am sad to read what you've written. If worthwhile human relations feel impossible for now, you might be able to find genuine care and companionship and purpose in a pet.
@kanepadams 36 years old ain't that young it's possible the person dies at 46 now they're 90 percent done in life. Yeah sure they might live Till 80 or whatever but not too many people become successes after like 35 or 40 they end up stuck I'm whatever place they're in or they die. Sometimes by the Ole suicide. And God doesn't exist.
I almost succeeded in my own attempt at age 14. That was 42 years ago. Coming home from the hospital following my attempt, I wept at the sight of the setting sun, and pledged to myself that I wanted to see as many sunsets as possible thereafter. Now, I rarely miss one, and yesterday's sunset was incredible. Some days are hard even still, but if I can make it to see the sunset, I am never disappointed.
My PhD research in psychology showed that what helped people in despair was indeed what you describe, finding something reoccuring in nature, to look towards and want to see over and over be it 24hrs, or seasonal. Thank you for sharing your truth.
I understand what you mean. Even in the city I focus on what is bigger than all this chaos. The colors in the sky, the sunrise or sunset, the sunlights, the trees in the park. When I look at it I think to myself it is beautiful now, beautiful when I'm down, beautiful when I'm up, it's always there no matter what goes into my life.
For me its the moon. I look at its surface, billions of years old and which will outlast me by billions more. Every human has seen that view, and I suddenly don't feel alone anymore.
There's hope for you. I used to feel such a way. I thought it was inescapable. Today I am among the least depressed, most fulfilled people around. It took making many small changes daily involving meditation, fitness, nutrition, journaling, God (I am latter-day saint). These ended up being big changes in the long run. Don't give up.
I’m a 911 call taker and when I get a call for someone on the edge of a building or with a gun to their head, I tell them, “You can always do it later, but if you do it now and don’t want to, you can’t take it back.” Great advice! It at least buys time while they’re thinking.
@@S2audicoupeS2 Jesus loves you. Avoid all religion and reach out to Jesus. He is alive, available and more beautiful than anything or anyone you have ever seen. He truly loves you
Well, would be ok for you if they do it "later"? Or later would you also tell them that they must wait till even later? And so on...? By this kind of logic a person can never do it. It is a misleading advice btw. and going through all this suffering is also something which can´t be taken back. Who will give me back my dignity? My confidence? Who will erase all the discusting emotional filth from the fact that in those horrifiing moments I only apologized for everything and made myself a whiny wretch (because of the immense pain I felt all the time) I will be ashamed of for the rest of my life? Who will give me this back? These are just as valid questions as the statement that no one can bring a person's life back but they are always totally ignored.
Been there, done that. I'm just here to let you know that I know how it is to see no end of pain/ suffering, that I was experiencing. Physical & mental violence at home, very little money, at best a mediocre friend circle - a really shitty situation. ^^ But I tried to keep giving it another chance, another day of figuring how to improve what was availeable to me; and over time, meeting better people & "cleaning my room" one step at a time + re-framing my life, through learning from people online (Jordan being one of them); things got WAAAAAAAY better... Nothing is guaranteed; I figure sh*t out as I go as well. But, there is a real possibility of having a good life; things going so well that I am thankful to be alive, changing a lot about the circumstances in my/ your life & enjoying living. ❤
Currently facing nihilism and loss of hope. Not suicidal yet but don't mind a peaceful death. His advice about "do it tomorrow" is solid for chronic procrastinators 🐱👍
I'm just here suffering every new fkin 24h over the last 5 years just for others so they won't get through the same experience I lost the will to exist years ago .
I’ve been in the same position and got very close to ending it all but now starting to come out of it and that things can be meaningless, but why is it even a problem, as it never was before. I feel like when you’re in this empty meaningless void it’s more your emotional and mental state than anything, as many people believe that everything is meaningless and have happy fulfilling lives. It all means something here on earth and that’s all that really matters in my opinion but yeah zoom out and things can seem all very pointless.
I tried telling my family the last time I felt suicidal and that's when I realised for certain that none of my family give a shit about me. I just continue with this life because, like Peterson says, you can always do it tomorrow. I take each day as it comes, even if each day is just as meaningless as the last, I really do try to improve my life and make something of it but honestly this world is getting really fucked up in recent years. It's hard to picture a future that's positive in some way.
You can't tell people or they will have you committed. People simply cant understand a person can be traumatized so much and theres no medication thats going to ever fix those memories and trauma. We wake up everyday and carry that pain, now because we told someone and they had us committed, we now suffer in complete silence. I wish there were a safe place we could go to without judgement and someone say, "its ok." Theres no such place.
Exactly. You can’t share these feelings without being punished. $2500 for a 3 day hold where you get to color, eat garbage, and get approx 10 minutes of psych evaluation. Disgusting.
Sure you can. The problem is if a therapist or somone else will get the impression that you are a acute Danger to yourself they will commit you. But if you say you think about it but dont intend to act on it thats different. There is a big diference between i want to kill my self and somtimes i wish i was dead or sometimes i think about suicide.
That argument about leaving people close to you traumatised by your death must have really hit hard for those who are suicidal and don't have a single person that would even notice, let alone care.
@@d1ssolv3r Exactly. At least people who aren't alone have a valid, objective reason to not give up. But if you hate life, hate yourself, don't see a point in keep on going plus you are completely alone, I think it's a safe bet that you're much more likely to take that final step, than someone who has support from others. In fact, being alone for too long can be the cause of depression. I would even risk a statement that people would prefer to be hated, than just invisible. If you're hated, well at least you're being noticed, even if in a negative way, it's better than to just be ignored. Then you can really feel like you're nobody.
@@kr-vm1bt Sometimes I wish I had absolutely noone, would make it a lot less painful/simpler. No devastation in your wake. I see where you're coming from. Family and friends are one of the few things that've kept me alive
There's always someone who cares, all they have to do is reach out to people and ask for help! If nobody arounds them can help them, then God will! I speak from personal experience!
Fun Fact: I had some pretty intense depression and incredible anxiety that invoked panic attacks, chest pain, heaviness in my left arm, all sorts of problems. I went to the ER dozens of times over the course of 2 years, it cost my family a fortune. It was a gluten intolerance. When I removed gluten, 90% of my issues vaporized.
That's splendid news, however, panic attacks have been shown to be only existing in people with catastrophic interpretations of their bodily sensations. What they did was to inject people with yohimbine or sodium lactate, depending on the experiment, and only neurotic people reported the occurrence of panic attacks. Other people just felt agitated. Also their vitals were pretty similar, including blood pressure, heart rate etc. So while there is a strong somatic component to panic attacks, they are only possible in people already having anxious thoughts and a generally negative outlook on life. I would suspect that the rest of your symptoms are similar in that regard. Also, what about that remaining 10%? BTW, I have been suffering from panic attacks myself some 10 years ago, for a few months, but I eventually recognized that they are psychological in nature, then watched a video on RUclips with a relevant sort of a 'meditation', and never suffered from them again. That doesn't mean I don't get agitated anymore, it's just that I don't interpret these situations in a way that leads to panic. Years later, after having rehearsed various nutrients, electrolytes, vitamins, diets, sunshine exposure theory, outdoor activities, cardio, calisthenics etc etc etc ×100, I went to therapy and my life *really* started improving from that moment onwards. So that's why I'm a bit skeptical as to all of it being due to an intolerance of a dietary component - but as I say if you're better now, that's splendid and that's all that counts.
My son was held for 72 hours. They didn’t counsel him… they just watched him. 2 different hospitals now and neither really helped. In fact at the first a nurse ridiculed him in front of me. After years now we are finally going in for a diagnosis. Pray for my son please… and a mother’s heart who knows she can’t save him herself.
I have tried to commit suicide several times as a young adult. Now as a middle aged adult I again find myself weighing the pros and cons of being alive. The hard part about being an adult is that people stop caring if you are in pain, and they completely ignore you when you do tell them that death is something you consider daily as an choice. Then the realization that noone care sets in and you sink further into the pain. Not sure where this is going because I have not found out yet.
May God bless your heart ❤ PS- you're not the only one who's been through what you've been through and I just want to say from my pov that it's a miracle you're still here, I think that is beautiful and that life has something great in store for you, God is not done with you, your story isn't over , joy is within your grasp. Seek is my advice , it does yield reward even if that is just insight after insight , eventually it can turn into an incredible meaningful life and you can help others to navigate theirs . You are blessed to be a blessing. Perhaps find out more about what that is or what that means in your life and or how you could apply it or simply become aware or on the lookout for things that become relevant to you in the way that you feel drawn to being, and be you. It's hard. But It takes tremendous strength and courage to stick around after surviving multiple attempts. I don't know where I'm going with this either. I suppose I can relate and it's not often I see or hear or speak to another who has survived multiple attempts. There is a point where you give up on giving up because you know it just won't work and what you have to do is keep going albeit painful and etc but hopefully what can be reflected to you is everything good that you are and that you do in such a way that you can fall in love with life and live it with joy it's not impossible. I think that because of that, there's an opportunity, and cutting yourself off from that is not fair. You have worth, it's time you begin to sink in to your value and rise above the pain and grow and eventually soar. Again, seeking spiritual help can expand your horizon and is most definitely worth a try. That's why I'm still breathing. ❤
Doing emergency psychiatric in an ER, doctors from the surrounding 3 counties sent their suicide attempts to us. I had to decide if they needed hospitalization or could go home. Most were OD's and most were female. ALL of them asked me why I CARED. I never saw people so isolated .If you can make caring contact with someone who's depressed, do it.
Thank you for your work! I am a clinician at an inpatient psych facility receiving the kind of patients that you deem in need of further hospitalization. I know how difficult it can be to carry the burden of deciding when someone is ready to leave a controlled environment that has been suicidal. Prayers for wisdom for you in your position.
Yes, if this message actually resonated with direct family and true friends, all would end in different terms. But this is usually not the case. You feel alone and find out that indeed you are alone. The constant "i never knew", is hardly the truth
Most Depress people don’t advertise what they went through. Nobody in my family ( husband, son, parents, brothers, sister) knows my darkness. They all thought I am a feisty wife or a generous daughter/ sister/mom. But, if they only observe, I don’t have friends, don’t go out much.
I'm here right now. I am alone. There's no clear path out. And I'm tired. Tired of fighting the same mental battle. Tired of all the awful things those I've loved have said to me playing over and over in my brain. They're all true. I've got nothing going for me. I'm pretty much at the end.
I have felt suicidal regularly since my early 20's. I am now 39 and still suffer with these thoughts and feelings. I have found getting out and immersing myself in nature, trying to focus on the different species of plants and animals on display is very helpful. It helps me forget about my own problems and escape the torment of my own mind/ego. Listening to Dr Peterson has helped me a lot. Thank god for people like him who actually care and understand the suffering of their fellow humans.
I'm glad you found something that comforts you and helps to take away the pain... People need to teach themselves effective ways to deal with their problems, suicide is not the answer, these thoughts come from the devil...
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
You have to make your own community sometimes. Not just find it because sometimes you can't. You have to make it. And that takes work. And a lot of hurt. But what is the alternative?
@@Vic82toire People that need somebody to talk to usually can't even reassemble themselves, and you want them to make a community? Let's be real- that's probably not happening ever. 🤨
This interview found me the night I had my plan. It saved my life. I never want to hurt the people I love and who love me. This video was my wake up call to keep fighting. Thank you Jordan for your inspiring words. My family and friends can't thank you enough.
I lost my oldest son Michael to suicide May 2017 age 27. I miss him everyday. 😢 it changed me I had to learn to live without him which is the hardest thing to do 💔
You are not alone. 11.02.22 my daughter, one month before turning 18. I not only had to learn to live without her but also to dig in my own past and meet my "demons" again which turned me into an emotional unstable parent - not knowing how devastating it would affect her and also my other two kids.
Procrastination is my best thing. I got up yesterday, did dishes ,had breakfast, walked the dog, got ready for an appointment --then realized it was Sunday, not Monday. My usual waking thought is I just can't even. But some how I got a free day.
It doesn't matter if someone is suicidal. If they have a plan or not. Someone who says they feel like they want to die should NEVER be taken lightly. Why would you want someone to suffer like this. I once had a nurse tell me it was normal to want to die as long as you don't do anything about it. Yeah that's super helpful!
Suicidal ideation possibly are more common then people admit too but 😂the poor nurses are always flat out and have to triage, they probably have it down to a science who needs their immediate attention and who can wait
Dr Peterson is a very vital and wise person who is much needed in today's world. He is to be protected and cherished. I owe a lot of turning my life arourd to Jordan. God Bless.
Those types of thoughts are how I found Jordan’s content in the first place. After I had thought threw how I was gonna do it for most of a morning I cried and thought I needed help. Thanks Jordan for the help.
Was having suicidal thoughts years back. I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder 20 years ago as a teenage. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Spent my whole life fighting cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I am trying to find more info on this got a supplier? Are the mushrooms inspected for illegal substances? to many times non hard drugs has fentanl in it..killing this user.
I did try to commit suicide and jumped 5 stories almost exactly 3 years ago to the day. I survived and spent 2 1/2 months in the hospital after extensive reconstructive surgery to my face, jaw and a snapped leg. It's a brutally difficult thing to go through, but if anything I would say don't do it because you could actually survive and have to face the long term physical consequences like I do now.
@@TheMATHEHOUSEYou're only inviting more hell, friend. The chances may seem low, but life is cruel and modern healthcare will never let you die if they get you. I only didn't for years because I feared surviving. My advice is: if this life is so garbage that you need to throw it away then do it. But to start a new one instead of just ending it. Run away. I'm serious. Take what ever money you have even if it's a couple bucks and just leave everything. Start driving or walking or whatever. Go somewhere new and don't look back. Look up shelters and churches and just ask for help when you need it. Find a small business and ask for an under the table job. You might as well say fuck it and try something new. Leave a note for anyone you care for. Better to disappear from their lives then make them live with your death.
The thing about Jordan’s attitude is that the pain of those who are close to wanting to end themselves is etched upon his face. It’s nice, when you’re at that threshold of despair, to see a man like this who genuinely feels - not just “knows” - but feels that pain. Thank you Jordan.
I won’t forget the night I listened to this on the side of the Bourne bridge ready to go ready to go had enough of this world I’m 6 months and 1 day sober. I’m not great. But I’m not dead. Don’t give up.
My love killed herself the june 16 2023. She was shizophrenic. I miss her so much. Now she's over her suffering. She was intelligent, maybe to much for this society. I just want to talk to her, hug her, but that's not possible anymore. She's in the ground. I miss her so much. Love from France to everyone
Here are my versions that saved me and turned my life around: It's not really your body you want to kill, but the vice and poison that is torturing you. Think about it. If you can find the strength to kill yourself, then you can find the strength to kill your poison. It's not the pain that destroys us, it's the things we do to avoid it. If your life is so painful that you constantly want to die, then you can handle the pain of making all the right decisions to improve your life. You are already in hell, you are already supporting the worst. It might even get better, who knows? Try something new.
If a person wants to die it's because they don't see the solution to their situation any longer and usually they've used all the tools they had to fix things. It's the state of complete hopelessness where you stop caring or not caring about anything, even your children. There's nothing, no pain, no joy, no colour, no morning no evening, just deadly indifference and the only thing that makes sense is "I don't want to exist in this state any more". This is how I felt. At some point even pain stops and if all feelings stop you know you're in trouble. A person who still fights feels pain or joy or anything but they feel.
This message means a lot to me. Ive been a loyal fan and listening to Dr JBP for a few years now, love his work. For the past 6 months, Ive been cutting myself and having multiple attempt of taking my own life. Ive struggle with depression and hopelessness since I was 14 years of age. My first suicide attempt was when I was 19 where I almost died. Im 29 this year and after all these years, I've finally came to agreement with my family that I needed to seek professional help and confront all my demons from my childhood trauma. I've begin to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist as well. Its been life changing and I had to also under go ECT therapy. I was in the psychiatric ward for 2 weeks for this. And it changed me forever. Seeing other people suffering from severe mental illness really ignite the empathy in me like never before. Im also a man of God and having my true Christians family by my side and supporting me in these hard times without any judgement or condemnation has been a blessing. This has really ignite the fire in me to pursue my studies in psychology and helped people who struggle with similar battles that I did. Im truly grateful for you doctor and you've been a blessing to a lot of us. Im doing much better now and very hopeful for what the future might bring. I've always wanted a family, a wife and children. Lastly, if there is one thing I've learn throughout all these years dealing with my battles is that you must confront all the demons, monsters and dragons in your life. Never suppressed it or sweep it under the rug, sooner or later it will come back and haunt you. Thank you. God bless.
I wish you healing! It is good that you have so much insight into your own state of mental health. I cannot emphasize more the importance of it esp when you want to have a family in future. It's not just about you and getting on with your spouse etc but esp esp how you will be able to be present and emotionally stable with your kids. Kids need from an early age strong attachment to their primary caregivers and a functional family system. I just wrote about the "demons" in anothe comment - yes! You have to face them, learn how they affected you, be kind to yourself and allow yourself the process of grief (over what you didn't have or over what happend to you) and them reparent your inner child (Shadowwork). Reading about your selfharm brought back deep sadness and memories to me. When you see your scars - be sure that you will overcome and never meevr feel ashamed of them! I hope that you will be able to pursue your career in the mental health field - someone who hit rock bottom can emphasise really with the ones who are at that place. All the best to you!
People don't realise just how hard life can be when you're at your absolute lowest point, the stage at which death would be preferable to existing; it's not something you can appreciate without experiencing it first hand. When you have nobody who cares for you, you may have people who are dependent on your labour (work colleagues for example) but when that amounts to nothing on a social scale and you can see no escape, it's like trying to run a marathon on your knees. When life is so gut-churningly difficult that you can scarcely face another day, other people or any kind of interaction, the level of strength you have to muster to prevent yourself from performing the ultimate sacrifice is immense. There's the key thing, it's the ultimate sacrifice, do you want that to be your footnote?
Had an episode at work recently and basically had to beg to keep my job. You have to be careful who you confide in because a lot of people are pretty apathetic towards someone who’s struggling
THIS is why most times I keep my problems to myself, I don't trust anyone enough to confide completely in them. Maybe that's what's killing me slowly ......😢
I suffer from anxiety and depression. Sometimes the thoughts get so unbearable that I have suicidal fantasies. I’ve planned and plotted but never took action, thank god. Recently, the tendencies have died down a lot which I am beyond grateful for. For those out there suffering with depression and anxiety, you’re not alone. I understand that it’s hard, but I promise you, things will get better for us. There’s nowhere to go but forward, brothers and sisters! Live on 🤘
My youngest sister was physically abused by her spouse and couldn’t take it anymore. She competed suicide and My Father never recovered, I for one don’t blame her for wanting out. She had reached more than what she could handle and proceeded to try to permanently end that pain, Which caused more pain. It’s always horrible for those left behind. I get that. But people need to stop blaming themselves and criminalizing the deceased for wanting out of pain. As someone who thinks about suicide frequently, I really wish people would treat those who feel this way as someone who might also have cancer or something similar that may or may not be treatable. Can we just love one another and cherish each other for as long as we draw breath. It isn’t telling someone not to jump that stops them. It’s trying to understand their pain. Sitting with them in their darkest moments while they try to push everyone away and to hide the pain because they feel ashamed or terrified. We need to feel we matter to someone or something in this lonely messed up planet.
Today I was shamed by a loved one when I confided in them and compared it to a terminal disease. I would take my life rather than suffer the pain of the end of a terminal disease (like I saw my mother go through last month) and would end it so my family wouldn't have to suffer seeing me in pain as well. It is one in the same for suicide for me.
I'm sorry you have gone so long feeling like this. I am not even half of your age but, you are so strong for holding on for so long. Please keep going!
Hang in there man. The end is near for all of us anyways. I do believe that. Might as well try to squeeze out a few drops of simple human pleasure in the meantime and see how it ends.
As someone who has really struggled with these thoughts and plans without telling anyone , I have to think of my wife and kids, they need me. They love me, much more than I can hate myself. I cannot and will not put them through that pain. So I soldier on, and it will pass. Tough times don't last forever.
my father committed suicide and i can tell you that is the best way to destroy a family and leave your love ones with a pain that will never go away . tell someone your thoughts . your family would much rather listen to you than have a life-long guilt for not being able to help you. i send love and prayers to you and ur family ❤️
My older brother and my step father both commited suicide a few years apart. These seperate incidents have torn our family to shreds. There were warning signs. Yes. We all should have done more. If I could go back in time, I would have bear hugged them both and not let go until they were both in professional help. Not let either of them be alone. Jordan Peterson's attention to the sensitivity and the insight he gives upon this matter is appreciated by many. I am certain.
@@savvyladylondon5841 Depends on the hospital I suppose but I have absolutely zero confidence in the psychiatric profession…. absolutely zero. Few if any are within a light year of Jordan in terms of integrity, intelligence, sincerity, or depth of perception and of those that do the overwhelming majority have long since been shackled into utter paralysis by an industry possessed by unbridled greed and profound stupidity…. and I’m choosing my words carefully. If one becomes existentially overwhelmed it is always for good reason and to put oneself in the hands of these drug pushers theses days is very seldom a choice that leads to a positive result.
I did it when I was in the military. Do NOT cross that line. The hospital does not care. To them it's just protocol and you're a number. I wasn't suicidal, but depressed. The people inside the psych are heavily, heavily medicated. Very bad spot to be in when I really just needed someone to talk to. Basically, in order to get out, a panel of doctors have to clear you. Best acting I ever did and they bought it and released me the next day. Of course I thought that these doctors weren't that bright if they got smoozed by a 19 year old.. anyways, people should not go that route for help unless they literally have the finger on the trigger. They'll be fighting depression along with these "professionals" to "let you go".
I respect all the experiences being spoken about here. In the West, statistics show higher male suicide numbers, and it is so very sad that men are saying that hospitals and treatment centres are making it worse and not better! I also think the other points Peterson made are spot on, and I hope people feeling suicidal take so much comfort from that ❤️🙏
this is a gift, thank you jordan, i came on here by chance, thinking tonight not of ending it but of how on earth can i go on, no strength, no love, so isolated, so afraid, so pointless looking into the future, yet your mention of leaving peope in a wake of catastrophic destruction, though i was not unaware of this, left me feeling like i'd been rolled inthe ice and snow and it has taken the immediate heat of my situation, so again, thank you
Thank you. OMG i didn’t even know that could be a cause of depression. I was battling suicidal depression for 3 months, I am better now but I am going through diagnostics with my doctor over hair loss, rashes, insomnia, pain, fatigue, low blood pressure- just not well and now in process of trying to figure out which autoimmune disorder I have as that what she thinks is wrong. And I can’t believe I didn’t tell her about the depression because it didn’t occur to me that it was anything other than emotional. I didn’t think they could be related. THANK YOU. You just saved my life❤️
Check your house for black mold anywhere with moisture. Bath, toilet, windows, doors, refrigerator, AC. Google images to identify. It releases Mycotoxins which cause everything you describe, including lingering depression, fatigue, insomnia, brain fog, low blood pressure, heart palpitations, anxiety like you wouldn't believe, hormone disruptions, rashes, and much more. Don't get on the track of taking meds until a last resort. Check the air filter of your AC, and in your car too. Remove any found mold with straight bleach, taking care to wear rubber gloves to prevent mycotoxin saturation through the skin. Wear a high-grade mask too. A supplement called NAC is super powerful for removing mycotoxins from cells and the bloodstream along with Glutathione. I take 1 capsule of NAC morning/night and after 2 days I experienced a noticeable increase in energy, better sleep, better energy, and hormone increase (which I won't elaborate on). It's worth a try if you find any mold, and NAC can be bought in any health foods store for cheap.
It's been 2 years since I attempted. I'm still recovering. I will live with permanent reminders for the rest of my life. That being said. In the earlier days of recovery, I had lots of time on my hands and used it to my advantage. Through psychotherapy and reading, I had discovered what plagued my mind after 30 years on this earth. Today, I am very different from who I was 2 years ago and I will be very different 2 years from now. God bless.
Jordan you're like everyone's 'Daddy', giving all that solid knowledge and advice. I wish my son had met you. He committed suicide in 1999, had told his friend who kept quiet. The blame still lingers. God bless you, your family and all that you do. xxx
I think there is a slight bit of an issue with the way society works, someone commits suicide and it is labeled as a crime. The suicidal person is treated like a lose end and the State and society treat them as such, but there is always a chain of events that lead to it, these events were caused by many irregular agents or chaos in the very system called society. How is it that we criminalize the victim and not the chain itself and the people who contributed to the creation of that chain. There are a lot of people partaking on injustice.
@@oioio-yb9dw As someone who has a plan to kms in 2 years I have realeised that people, esspecially family are deaf. You ask your parents nicely to stop yelling and they yell more, you ask your sibling to live you alone and they want to fight you, you ask someone to stop speaking while your working and they start insulting you. After all of that they will say: You look depressed because you dont leave your room ( I run or bike at least 10km per week😑)
You are the most amazing person that exists…. We have never met, never communicated, but i feel closer to you thru your videos than my own parents, family, and most of my friends…. Thank god for you
Thank you for the video. After my friend unalived I've been struggling, and I wish I could have sent it to him, but the words are comforting. "If I could of just been there..."
"There's many pathways to desparation." In the '70's, I was in group therapy and from time to time, special group sessions were held, e.g. one was held for suicidal patients. As I have never been suicidal, it was not appropriate for me to be there. However, the conclusion of the attending patients as to the common denominator of suicidal ideation was publicly shared, namely a feeling that only suicide could eliminate the pain.
You can also start applying to jobs or clean your room or sign up to the gym or fix your life in whatever way tomorrow too and keep postponing it so nothing ever gets done in your life. But then that piece of advice falls apart quickly lol
Thank you for being you and I am learning so much from you. I have been suicidal on and off for a couple of years now and listening to you has been life saving! I have also been inspired to start school to become a therapist and hope to help people!! We need less hate and more understanding in this world!! 🌟
you deserve happiness and to be alive also once you are better and whole you can then help people. speaking from experience but also i know what you mean once you have been to a dark place you don't want people going to that same place.
That's true! Less hate and more understanding. Now that would be a miracle. Never been so judged in my life. Been judged in my life since i'm 4 years old.
My mom is fighting depression and suicidal thoughts for about 6 years. We as a family fight this battle with her. But I do know that there is a chance every single day that I could get the call. It's hard that you can't do shit, but only be there for them. If I could carry the heavy load for her I would do it in a heartbeat.
Exactly the same here. My mom tried to kill herself 3 times but is still here. I’m also expecting a call everyday it’s fucking dreadful. She’s been depressef for 7-8 years and is addicted to benzos at the point that the doctors don’t know what to do
@@camfre4k Yeah it really is dreadful. We've put medicine she needs in a locked box. And the other medicine she now gets from a little machine with a timer, giving the exact amount she needs for the day. Changes for her to grab to much pills is now a bit smaller. But we also know she could take knives to do it. Sadly you can't make everything 100% without having them at home. I have to rely on my dad that he keeps a good eye on her. If you need someone to talk about, I'm there. Just let me know and we set something up to talk. People who are not in this situation don't fully understand so it's harder to talk to them.
Being there for her is the biggest part-- the most important. My 2 kids could care less if I were alive, or dead. They have abandoned me when I needed them the most. I'm totally different now, than I was 2 years ago, before this happened. Now, I no longer care about anything, except my pets. Without them, I wouldn't be here, that I do know!!
Thank you Dr. Peterson, I'll remember "you can always do it tommorrow". And I didn't expect to but I broke down and cried when you mentioned that my loved ones would be affected and would never recover if I go through with my suicide. My family, especially my little princess has been the factor that has always stopped me when I was about to go through with it. Thank you for the message.
Dude same.. My little girl and my two boys stop me from doing it to... If i didnt have them i would already be dead. And everytime i feel so down that i wanna kill myself and think about them and i cry and get torn inside but i just cannot do that to them...
@@Justanother1ne I forgot I made this comment. Honestly, better than ever. I still have hard days every once in a while but I have found real fulfillment in a few things and I'm so glad I stuck around all those hard years.
Good to hear you're doing better but the "do it tomorrow" advice is dumb. Would he say that about getting a job, or signing up to a gym, or cleaning your room or any other thing in life? No lol
@keifer7813 you obviously didn't watch the video. Do it tomorrow is what you tell yourself when you are considering sending yourself on the one way permanent trip to sleepy town. Keep yourself alive by always telling yourself "what's the rush, I can do it tomorrow."
I don’t have any family, none. It is a constant struggle to fit in and not feel lonely; specially around the holidays. I cherish my memories of my wonderful mother and stepfather, and former pets.
All I want is for the self hatred to stop. Once it starts, I can't control that voice and it can go on for days. It eats me alive and leaves me feeling empty and exhausted. I've talked to a few people and they tell me the same thing "lifes hard, find a hobby, see the bright side, be grateful.." but the voices consume my life. I just want to feel whole again. I have detailed plans but I can't do anything until the people who rely on me are gone..
My daughter Sarah suicided 21 years ago, she struggled with depression, I had a feeling deep within me there was a deep dread , and I would wake up in the middle of night with a thought time is running out, I was walking on eggshells around what I said to her or how I said things, if I upset her she would go inland lightning Ridge where she was a opal cutter and jeweller, I hated this town, for lots of reasons to much alcoholism in this town to many problems sometimes I would be trying to track her down just to know if she was ok, I would leave at 3am in the morning to arrive at close to 7pm at night with my heart in my throat always fearful of her being in this very harsh rough and ready town undesirable moving through this town, the town post says welcome to lightning Ridge population unknown, two type of bullet holes into the metal, Sarah started using drugs in this town , and for two years before she suicided she changed rapidly, I told her I couldn't live with out her she promised me she would never hurt herself, 3 month's later she ended her life, I say to many people just stay another day, tomorrow might be better,
@@PlumGustave hello sarahparr thank you, My Sarah was 20 years old, when she died. She has now been dead 21, I have lived longer with her death now than I had her in my life, she was the most beautiful person , If you or anyone you know is troubled with thoughts of suicide, talk to someone , and keep talking to someone Truly just stay another day, never be ashamed, god has other plans for us,
@@NYNC88 thank you , I will always still be her mum, I'm sorry for anyone who is facing that news today, We must learn to talk openly about our struggles, our fears shout it from the top of sky scrapers if we must until everyone knows they must never be ignored or let down again by the paid actors in our systems God bless you and your life ahead
You will be hurt, more than you know. And for a hundred selfish people, there will always be some silent angels willing to love you regardless. You may see them on the streets, at the busstop, they're around if you're willing to reach out to them. I think I might have a reasonable idea of the kind of situation you're in right now. You feel helpless, useless, miserable in a way that makes you want to end it. Let me explain something to you. Love and hate, good and evil, they're much like light and dark and for good reason. Suppose you have a dark room. You may not see the furniture, you may not walk or you'll bump against all kinds of things, your life will be catastrophic. All you have to do is turn on the light. Love is a fire that grows, and to love is to be loved. It starts with you. Learn to love the man that insults you, learn the love the woman that rejects you, learn to love the people that don't love you back. I assure you, do this and you will be cured within 7 days. Please try. It'll be a relief.
I'm getting closer. Everyday is a struggle to just keep afloat but I don't even see a reason, much less a road to recovery. The pain my family would feel is pretty much the only thing holding me here
We all carry the weight of despair alone. Because every moment of our lives there are people pretending to care, pretending to want to hear from you. No one can convince me that a therapist will help or listen if he or she is not paid for it. The only thing we can do for people with suicidal thoughts is to be there, to be present. Don't say anything, act, and they will see truth in you when you reach them to help.
I'm not suicidal but I still relate to this, Ive always had trust issues with certain people but the one person I trusted most just ghosted me recently, and it kinda shattered whatever line between trust and distrust that I had, I don't know anymore who's actually giving a damn about me
6:35 as someone who was VERY suicidal for a long time and didn't realize I was suicidal until talking to friends and realized that most people don't fantasize about killing themselves on a daily basis: the long lasting damage is sometimes the motivation for suicide. Like how school shooters want to be "noticed", suicide is an effective means of being permanently "noticed" and permanently "remembered". There is a certain level of comfort in knowing that you can sort of get back at everyone who made you feel bad by making them feel terrible. Obviously, this is terrible thinking, but I just want it to be known that telling someone who is suicidal that they will "permanently affect people's lives" is not a strong argument to get them to stop. In some cases, it is a selling point.
Exactly! I'm currently suicidal and this came across as a selling point to me. I guess we all have to find our own reasons to live? Some reasons work for others, and some don't.
And you're so right about the being "remembered" part. That is also one of my motivations, to get back at the people who did me wrong? Like there's no way you can argue about what you did to me anymore, because I'm gone. And it'll be quite clear who was the abused one. And then maybe all the people who weren't there for me and called me "crazy" would finally realize. Again, all of it sounds like a fantasy. But a fantasy you can make come true.
@@duakhan8448 The issue with that is that you're still losing in long-run. If your whole life is dictated by getting back at people who wronged you or making them feel bad then you need to find a better purpose or goal in life. Suicide is tempting when all of your current goals have failed and it seems like the most powerful way to get back at the world, but that's usually because you've limited your scope on what you can do and haven't weighed your options properly. As it is well known, people who jump off the Brooklyn bridge and survive always regret it on the way down. The thought is tempting until you do it and realize "Oh frick, I REALLY could've tried something different" or "Oh, wait, why didn't I just apply to a couple more jobs per day?". There are plenty of options available that AREN'T suicide. Also, I think JP mentioned this before, but when I was suicidal it was sort of a biological clock where around the same time everyday I would get suicidal. It took me a while to realize that I wasn't suicidal because of the quality of the day, I was suicidal based on the time of the day. Sort of like Pavlov's dog, I think I became so depressed for so long that suicidal thinking became a natural biological response and the fix to it was medication and moving to live with my family for a few years. Honestly, the family aspect did way more than the medication did. I started working different jobs and changed my expectations on life for a few years and that helped a bunch. Having people to talk to helps. Find a community group of sorts where you can talk frequently. I eventually got off medication but I've made sure that I talk to people on a weekly basis as I have a tendency to stop talking to everyone for weeks on end unless I forced myself to. Genuine conversations really make a difference.
@@duakhan8448 you're not gonna revenge on people who did you wrong by killing yourself, that's how you're gonna make them win. Because people who did you wrong on purpose want to see you down obviously. and also are not likely capable of regretting their actions even after you commit suicide. They just don't care about you enough. You get back to them by flourishing and thriving after their low punches and basically laughing at their faces by doing so. Hope that helps. 🤙
I guess some people feel that way, but I feel the opposite. I fantasize about disappearing and everyone instantly forgetting about me. But that's impossible. I don't want to hurt anyone or be remembered. I just don't want to exist right now. The fact it would hurt my loved ones keeps me from doing it.
At my lowest point I told everyone close to me for weeks and every single one of them did nothing to help me. I was lacing up my shoes to go finish the "plan" and got a random call from an old friend at 11:48 at night. I took that as a sign that God still had plans for me and it was enough to get me through. My life had fallen apart the previous 2 years and it turned out the side effects from the psychiatric medications I was prescribed had pushed me past my breaking point. It's been 7 years and while life isn't perfect it's definitely worth living.
@glowshine8102 I'm sorry to hear that. I can't say I have a lot of friends but I have a few I'm close to and especially my daughter who will be turning 10. Funny thing is when I decided to not use the "back up plan" it was actually kind of stressful because then I had to figure out how to get my life back on track. I have had a lot of luck meeting people at church. It took awhile to find the right one but if you take the time to it might help you to connect with some good people. I just had to realize they were all as messed up as I am
There is a dilemma I have faced many times now, that I have had those thoughts, wanting someone to share my burden with me but always wanting to share other peoples and but when someone comes along to share my burden, its not the right person and I realise that I want someone specific to share it with me and that emptiness is a result of not having that person. Yet it still remains. This is why therapy doesn't always work.
I hope this video reaches out to more and more people. Dr. Peterson puts it in such a comprehensive and empathetic manner while including also a fun part that you can always do it the next day. Although I don't like some political opinions of his, when it comes to videos like this, he is always a Gem to the world.
Yeah, tell us. Could you throw in a couple of chases and a gunfight into the story though, for entertainment value? And aliens too! And a chapter of Space Marines that saves the day.
It's true, when someone close to you commits suicide it destroys you, it makes you feel guilty forever. At the same time, people who are suffering seek peace, and I understand that too.
I struggled so much with suicidal thoughts through the years, as early as 17 years old. I’m 25 now. I’m on the path to recovery. I’m working on it & I can say this is the most “normal” I’ve felt. I’ve managed my thoughts with therapy & medication & I have a good community. But I’m terrified if I’ll snap one day. The thoughts & the resolution of suicide has been so embedded in my system, I’m worried that’ll be the only solution I know when my life is in a crisis (heartbreak, death of my parents, etc) I am trying to work through trusting myself & be able to become rational if things go downhill.
I wish you the best of luck. I'm unfortunately still struggling with suicidal thoughts at times at age 23! It's not as bad before, but it's still not great, obviously!
I watch a majority of your videos, I consider you to be one of the most intellectual and positive influential speakers we have to day, and hold you in the highest regards, especially whenever anyone around me mentions your name, your lectures on children helped me with raising my 6yr old son tremendously, I’m just hoping you can make more videos like this 1, it absolutely helps me and I know for a fact when I was suicidal it would have most likely made sure an attempt was never made, I beg you continue to make more videos similar , even shorts, and applaud you for not shying away from the challenge of discussion around these kinds of topics, please Mr.Peterson if you are reading this, consider a longer video on it!❤ P.S(or possibly even the Canadian wildfires, that would suffice seeing how bad they’ve gotten, records being broke & how it’s impacting the United States as well, your from Canada if I remember correctly and no one’s even coming close to really addressing it, I’m sure it would not only bring traffic to your channel, but help give a better perspective to the people, I’ve sense experiencing so much air pollution and problems in Michigan been eagerly & patiently waiting to say the least for you to speak on it & it seems like it’s not gonna happen cause it’s been months and there’s nothing, not sure why that’s not something you’ve spoke about publicly but I’d find it very rewarding to hear your thoughts on it! Random but had to add it in case you do see this. Thanks for your time and all you’ve done for us.) sincerely, Kyle Edward.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
A lot of people have testified about this and I really want to give it a shot. I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels
I didn' want to hear that it can traumatise some of the few people who I left behind. One of the reasons I'm still around, is that I'v had responsabilities for others.. I don't want to hear I can't leave, I want to believe they can handle it now. I have no future, and I can't hang around feeling horrible, lonley, and soon homeless, decades after decades, for others sake anymore
This is the part people forget. They will endlessly guilt trip you to not do it and stay here for what? Another decade? 20, 30, 40 more years when you could just be gone today? THAT is cruel I personally think it's a little different when you got kids as a responsibility but only you know your circumstances, man. Maybe you've been through something so painful that it overshadows the pain your kids will feel by you taking your own life
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Sometimes when you're suicidal repeatedly for decades, you pray that it gets so bad this time that you actually find the strength to do it once and for all and never have to face it again.
@@thesnowman7715 I understand this feeling. My dogs have kept me going the last 10 years and sometimes I wonder what happens when I lose them, what reason could there be to hang around when ending it seems so appealing? So then I thought, how can I be better for them in the meantime, just another month, just another year. Knowing I always have the option to leave, can I find anything which makes it less miserable in the meantime? What I found was in fact plenty of reason to keep going til the end. If you are interested in what I found, it was a spiritual awakening journey. It all started with watching near death experiencer interview after interview (Next Level Soul is a good RUclips channel for these).. which held my curiosity long enough to take me out of myself and really examine things, explore and imagine, then study and experiment, and ultimately, experience so much more to life. Sir, this choice is yours and yours alone, and that is a blessing of immense power. The truth is that this same power is available to us as we live our lives, to start identifying less with our circumstances, traumas, ego, and everything else we think we are. May you rediscover yourself.
Reality is, this kind of depression is a demon you cannot defeat. It will always be there and eventually... get you.
However, you're still well aware that the only right thing to do is to continue on, as far as you can go. It doesn't feel great to continue fighting, but it pays up someway.
At least I heard from someone that hearing this helps.
@@thesnowman7715same here, I’m 18 but when I was in 2nd grade around 2012, I drew a picture of me on top of a building about to jump off. I have never heard of people killing themselves at that age I don’t think. But I was able to feel such immense sadness and loneliness, to have a thought like that at 8 years old. The past 4 years I have had depression and suicidal thoughts on/off. I’m also autistic. I feel broken a lot of times. Anyways, Best of luck to you dude 👍
I felt like this for 23 years and had my first suicidal thoughts when I was 17. Tried to take my life when I was 28/29 and failed. After that things started to get better but now aged 40 and back to were I started. I don’t how much more I can carry on with this pain. My Mum is difficult and toxic and is very ill, which my family have made allowances for but still treat us like crap. My career has gone down the toilet after bad experiences and have no one I can confide in. I’m incredibly lonely and feel I have nothing to live for now. That things will never get better or I can’t get out of this toxic environment. Either way I’m trapped. So I’m serious considering it
@@rebeccayeatesmakeupI'm sorry to hear that, I know that I'm a stranger so my words might not mean a thing, but I can see how strong you are. I really admire you for that resilience. I will wish for the days to become brighter and happier for both of us.
This man inspired me to become a therapist and I work at a psychiatric hospital doing therapy almost exclusively with suicidal people. Thank you so much for all you do, Dr. Peterson.
And thank you for 'taking up your cross' as Jordan would say. Peace be with you and best of luck with your mission in this life.
@@1ron0xide♥️x
If you are not vegan, you are an animal abuser and a murderer. Dominion (2018) 👈
@@1ron0xide hey bud, happy to talk if you've got no to talk to, stay strong.
Huge respect good luck in your carreer
Sometimes life gets to a point when there is just nobody left to turn to.
63 here, I feel the same.
It isn't just always getting worse. Might feel that way but even if you reach a moment where there is no one to turn to, there will be another moment where you do have people to turn to.
I thought about suicide, I am so glad I didn't act, because life got so much better. It wasn't instant, but it got better.
@@masonleite9504 I regret not killing myself when I was younger. Life has been one heart-wrenching betrayal after another.
Enough is Enough.
@@malibudolphin3109 There's good people out there. I'm sorry you haven't been lucky but there are some people worth trusting out there.
@@malibudolphin3109 i know what you mean. just had a falling out with the last of my friends yesterday. over the past 4 years all the others dropped off after my girlfriend ran off with one of my friends when my mom was dying of cancer.. i posted something simple, a few word sentence on facebook about how aweful people were. i had been dealing with some unwarranted really abusive behavior from people i had been talking to. My friends response was. Jesus man! project much? He had never talked to me like that before and there didn't seem to be anything leading up to it. it made me realize thats what he really thought though.
Its very hard not to be suicidal in this cold world. I don’t know how people don’t be
Keep going!
@@Jaethedonttv0why?
Or at least have the ideation.
Better to not have. "David Benetar" and God in Ecclesiastes 3:1-3
@@oabh1808you made a lot of assumptions, most are wrong. Check yourself
@@oabh1808Yeah, for some people, pain is not temporary.
Once me and some friends recieved a cryptic phone call from a suicidally depressed friend and we all responded very seriously and got him off his 9th floor balcony. Two days later he jumped from it anyway. We saved him for two days. I tell this story often because people torment themselves over what if they had been there at the right moment. Even if you had been theres no guarantee they would still be here, you cant blame yourself.
It also helps to put things in perspective. Had they died of an illness or an accident, the sentiment would be to grieve, but eventually get over it. Especially when adults end themselves, well, they carry some responsibility. Also, check your own emotions: are they genuine? Or are you talking yourself into something here because you know that you are supposed to feel bad about it? Suicide usually doesn't just happen. There are things leading up to it. Has the person become more and more distant over the past, visited or called with decreasing frequency? Apparently that didn't bother you enough to do something about it, so why does their death bother you so much now?
@@Volkbrecht everyone knew how serious it was he had been put in a ward FOUR times. The command and his friends were at a loss. I spoke at hos memorial and said he had an illness that turned out to be terminal
@@Volkbrechttell me you haven't lost someone to suicide without telling me you haven't lost someone to suicide. God, what a dreadful take. Has it occured to you that, like a disease, it goes beyond reason? My friend was fifteen when she killed herself. We did everything we could to get her help and guess what? She didn't want it. She resisted help (no matter what form it came in) every step of the way. Choosing to die by suicide or live is a choice only that person can make. Believe me, those left behind wish they could've made the choice for them to live. It's an excruciating form of loss, in particular because it's met with so much blame and apathy for those left behind (seen here in your comment). I hope it's a loss you never have to endure.
@@loganlabbe9767'm so sorry for your loss. You're absolutely right. It's a disease, and like any other disease it's not governed by fairness or love or reason. This is the same thing I will tell my daughter one day when she asks about the person she was named after.
Also, your original comment gave me peace. My friend reminded me often she could end it whenever she wanted to. I struggled a lot at the time with not being 'a good enough reason' for her to stay. Today I'm grateful for the extra days I had with her. All we can do is our best.
May they RIP. God bless
@@fff5572 yea I visited him in the ward before hand and begged and begged him to try living for just another couple months and he told me "some people are just meant to die" it sounds cruel but he was a genuinely good person and total sweetheart it just was too much for him in the end
I did tell someone. Which led to the hospital which led to an awful mental hospital stay. Telling did not help. Now here I am three years later wanting to just be gone. No more sharing, no more medications. I'm just done
Exactly the same.
i am with you all the way
Sounds awful.. I’m so sorry for your experience.
Really sorry for your experience the world can be a scary place but please hold on.
This is exactly how it works. Telling anyone will only make things worse and at the same time make it more difficult to complete in the future. I’m just waiting on my mom to pass from old age and then I will be on my way as well. Nothing for me here
I lost a close friend to the silent war. He had it all, two amazing little girls, great wife, nice house, solid career and a creative outlet. On the outside, everything was there that the typical person would "need" to be fulfilled & yet he still ended it all. Not a single friend or family member had a clue that he was suffering. It's been 9 years & I still cry for my friend & the wake of perpetual pain left behind for his family. I love you Julian, RIP
Are you sure his family never knew? In my experience at least some or one family member or a friends would have heard from the person that they are very depressed and even suicidal but often the family downplay it and then seem shocked when the person does commit suicide.
Agree. My youngest brother always knows whenever I am depressed. I can hide from everyone except him.
@@rosieposie9564 Your experience is not typical.
@@Chris-i0i0i0 I think it is. Deep depression tends to be hard to hide from anyone but the most insensitive of people. From what seriously depressed and the people who I know from my previous job who went on to die by suicide, they speak but the people around them do not really hear. Sometimes family/friends seem irritated or don't know how to react to deep depression and talk of suicide. Most who kill themselves tend to have been depressed for a very long time and are middle age by the time they succeed and by that time family/friends often become irritated by them overtly or covertly and the depressed person then feels like a burden but hardly ever is suicide just out of the blue and the depression not known to at least one person in the person's inner circle. There used to be a documentary called the Bridge (i think) on youtube that backs up my experience on this.
I lost my best friend to suicide and no one knew he ever thought about it. We were friends for 32 years. Men hide it very well and it is very common to lose someone to suicide and have no idea they would do such a thing. He had just turned 50 and had been promoted at work just prior to his death. I think about him every single day. It’s been 7 years now.
I was having so much suicidal thoughts some years back as a teenage. I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder years ago. Got diagnosed with bipolar. Spent my whole life fighting bipolar. Not until my girlfriend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 3 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Predroshrooms. Mushrooms literally got me off my feet and turned my whole life around. I am currently a housing manager for a recovery program. I wouldn't have been able to do that shit without psilocybin.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
I am in my early-mid 20s. The main reason behind suicidal thoughts is loneliness.
When you have dealt with painful experiences on your own and you don't have anybody to share it with and you still face some patterns everyday it gets tough. You may be surrounded by wholesome family but you may still be very lonely because they had no idea and still don't have any idea about how you see the world and what you been dealing with. And when you're fighting on your own for too long , it doesn't take you anywhere it gets very dark.
Sending hugs 🤗
In same situation as yours, it just becomes so difficult to NOT Have those those thoughts.
Not great advice here, but I suggest take time to drink your favourite non alcoholic beverage, listen to Eurodance, and smoke a few cigarettes, because smoking will Kill you just not yet!
Also try raising Your Heart and Mind to Jesus Christ, that might not be everyone's cup of tea though granted, it's up to you!
I can feel you. If you are able to write this in a comment section of a RUclips video, where you have no idea what people you don't know will reply, you CAN tell someone about this. Talk to someone! As Dr. Peterson says, if you don't have anyone to talk to, go to the hospital. It seems you have a family. I think it's important to talk to them about how you feel. Please take care. 💕🙏
I was suicidal for several years following a childhood and youth marked by CSA, domestic violence and war. I kept myself alive from hour to hour. I said "I can do it in an hour." Eventually, I said "I can do it tomorrow." Eventually I got to the point of "It's the pain talking. I want the pain to stop, I don't want to die." Now, over 20 years into my healing journey, I am no longer suicidal. I am 38 years old and I am grateful to be alive. I still feel pain, I still suffer, I still feel the nearly unbearable panic when I feel abandoned or threatened by someone I love, but I've learned to respect my innate right to live. Healing is not easy at all, but it's a) possible b) worth it.
Keep going on. Don't ever give up.
I'm really sorry to hear your childhood was so awful. Good on you for not giving up on yourself and finding the strength to continue--that's really admirable.
You are strong ❤
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Beautifully said. It's a gift to us all that you're still here. ❤
As someone said, suicide is not a choice. It's a math equation. When the suffering, pain and despair exceeds all the resources you can access to deal with it, it happens.
Correct
What about people like Robin Williams who had all the resources? Suicide is much deeper than that simple analogy. For if that's the case, why do wealthy people kill themselves and people in the gulag or Nazi camps not kill themselves. It's more correlated to the idea of responsibility/meaning/truth. You should read Man's search for meaning by Victor Frankl.(he was in a variety of nazi camps). His thesis in cliff notes is why don't people kill themselves? He ends up answering it simply because of the meaning derived from whatever gives you the most meaning. When that is taken away, people would then kill themselves. It became his main psychological focus after that. Fascinating find.
So it's more then a mere equation, it's a phenomena that is so unbelievably complex that we still haven't answered why people kill themselves. We know the common factors but that's it.
As is everything in this universe. Well said.
it's 100% rational. The irrational ones just want attention.
this is just depressing and dangerous. I pray this isn't true. If it is , i'm fighting the obvious
i dont think they are desperate, just tired...like really tired
It's like chronic pain. It wears you down. Sometimes you can regenerate more quickly than it drags you down, sometimes you can't...
A lot of ppl will never get that
Like a weight always on you, especially when your the reason for your shitty existence
@@Olivia-WYes…
Agree 100%
“You can always do it tomorrow” thank you so very much for that
I do. I carry this burden alone. I have no one. All my family has passed away. I have always struggled to make friends. I am scared to decompose into a couch due to no one knowing I have died. I am 36 and my whole life so far has been this. I may be alive, but I do not feel like I am living. Just existing for whatever reason. I just don’t know
You're 36 years old - you're still young, you have more than an entire life ahead of you. Is it possible to find love when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. It starts by loving those around you - there will be SOMEONE that you can show even the tiniest bit of love to, and as you do that, the love will return and will multiply, and will slowly grow like an ember into a flame. Is it possible to find meaning when you've felt void of it for so long? Absolutely. You know deep down that there is a reason why you're here - you're not a mistake. My recommendation is to read the Book of John in the Bible. Even if you hate God, the Bible or Christianity, just give it a go. Praying for you.
As a random person on the internet, I too am sad to read what you've written. If worthwhile human relations feel impossible for now, you might be able to find genuine care and companionship and purpose in a pet.
@kanepadams 36 years old ain't that young it's possible the person dies at 46 now they're 90 percent done in life. Yeah sure they might live Till 80 or whatever but not too many people become successes after like 35 or 40 they end up stuck I'm whatever place they're in or they die. Sometimes by the Ole suicide. And God doesn't exist.
my heart is with you, I pray for you, may love of the universe surround you@@kanepadams
You will find a purpose outside of yourself in service to others. You may have to do something brave and novel.
I believe in you. You can do it.
I almost succeeded in my own attempt at age 14. That was 42 years ago. Coming home from the hospital following my attempt, I wept at the sight of the setting sun, and pledged to myself that I wanted to see as many sunsets as possible thereafter. Now, I rarely miss one, and yesterday's sunset was incredible. Some days are hard even still, but if I can make it to see the sunset, I am never disappointed.
My PhD research in psychology showed that what helped people in despair was indeed what you describe, finding something reoccuring in nature, to look towards and want to see over and over be it 24hrs, or seasonal. Thank you for sharing your truth.
I understand what you mean.
Even in the city I focus on what is bigger than all this chaos. The colors in the sky, the sunrise or sunset, the sunlights, the trees in the park.
When I look at it I think to myself it is beautiful now, beautiful when I'm down, beautiful when I'm up, it's always there no matter what goes into my life.
For me its the moon. I look at its surface, billions of years old and which will outlast me by billions more. Every human has seen that view, and I suddenly don't feel alone anymore.
I look at trees. They are so beautiful and strong.
damn it you made me tear up :) keep going champ you can do it!
I’ve had suicidal thoughts for a few decades, but the only thing that stops me from doing it is knowing how much pain my family would be in.
Same! But I'm 18 and have been suicidal for 1.5 years
There's hope for you. I used to feel such a way. I thought it was inescapable. Today I am among the least depressed, most fulfilled people around. It took making many small changes daily involving meditation, fitness, nutrition, journaling, God (I am latter-day saint). These ended up being big changes in the long run. Don't give up.
Same Here. If my Parents were Gone. It would have been an easy Decision.
I didn’t have that chance to talk to my husband when he committed suicide by gun to his head and now I’m severely depressed
@@donnablackburn6245 I’m so sorry for your loss.
I’m a 911 call taker and when I get a call for someone on the edge of a building or with a gun to their head, I tell them, “You can always do it later, but if you do it now and don’t want to, you can’t take it back.” Great advice! It at least buys time while they’re thinking.
Good idea.
Then tell them about Jesus
@@PaulWashington.. don't forgett to talk about Santa Clause and the Easterrabbit too...
@@S2audicoupeS2 Jesus loves you. Avoid all religion and reach out to Jesus. He is alive, available and more beautiful than anything or anyone you have ever seen. He truly loves you
Well, would be ok for you if they do it "later"? Or later would you also tell them that they must wait till even later? And so on...? By this kind of logic a person can never do it. It is a misleading advice btw. and going through all this suffering is also something which can´t be taken back. Who will give me back my dignity? My confidence? Who will erase all the discusting emotional filth from the fact that in those horrifiing moments I only apologized for everything and made myself a whiny wretch (because of the immense pain I felt all the time) I will be ashamed of for the rest of my life? Who will give me this back? These are just as valid questions as the statement that no one can bring a person's life back but they are always totally ignored.
My cousin committed suicide several years ago, and my uncle and other cousin's trauma is the primary thing that keeps me from doing the same.
As much as I hate myself and want to not exist, I could never do that to my family.
Been there, done that. I'm just here to let you know that I know how it is to see no end of pain/ suffering, that I was experiencing.
Physical & mental violence at home, very little money, at best a mediocre friend circle - a really shitty situation. ^^
But I tried to keep giving it another chance, another day of figuring how to improve what was availeable to me; and over time, meeting better people & "cleaning my room" one step at a time + re-framing my life, through learning from people online (Jordan being one of them); things got WAAAAAAAY better...
Nothing is guaranteed; I figure sh*t out as I go as well.
But, there is a real possibility of having a good life; things going so well that I am thankful to be alive, changing a lot about the circumstances in my/ your life & enjoying living. ❤
Age? If you don’t mind me asking
@@TheOutlierToday When I was suicidal, I convinced myself everyone would be happy if I did it. My dog saved my life.
Lost one friend to suicide so far💐
Currently facing nihilism and loss of hope. Not suicidal yet but don't mind a peaceful death.
His advice about "do it tomorrow" is solid for chronic procrastinators 🐱👍
I'm just here suffering every new fkin 24h over the last 5 years just for others so they won't get through the same experience I lost the will to exist years ago .
The irony of the reason for your depression being your salvation lol
I’ve been in the same position and got very close to ending it all but now starting to come out of it and that things can be meaningless, but why is it even a problem, as it never was before. I feel like when you’re in this empty meaningless void it’s more your emotional and mental state than anything, as many people believe that everything is meaningless and have happy fulfilling lives. It all means something here on earth and that’s all that really matters in my opinion but yeah zoom out and things can seem all very pointless.
Jesus loves you ♥
Nihilism is the meaning of life
Telling people only makes it a thousand times worse.
+1
I told my dad and he called me pathetic and a weak coward for being depressed. I'm only living for my brother.
@@tedk.6420 Live so you’re proud of yourself seems to be my best advice. If you’re ashamed of yourself it’s worse
@@tedk.6420see in that’s the problem exactly why folks don’t bother to reach out
I tried telling my family the last time I felt suicidal and that's when I realised for certain that none of my family give a shit about me. I just continue with this life because, like Peterson says, you can always do it tomorrow. I take each day as it comes, even if each day is just as meaningless as the last, I really do try to improve my life and make something of it but honestly this world is getting really fucked up in recent years. It's hard to picture a future that's positive in some way.
You can't tell people or they will have you committed. People simply cant understand a person can be traumatized so much and theres no medication thats going to ever fix those memories and trauma. We wake up everyday and carry that pain, now because we told someone and they had us committed, we now suffer in complete silence. I wish there were a safe place we could go to without judgement and someone say, "its ok." Theres no such place.
Exactly. You can’t share these feelings without being punished. $2500 for a 3 day hold where you get to color, eat garbage, and get approx 10 minutes of psych evaluation. Disgusting.
Sure you can. The problem is if a therapist or somone else will get the impression that you are a acute Danger to yourself they will commit you. But if you say you think about it but dont intend to act on it thats different. There is a big diference between i want to kill my self and somtimes i wish i was dead or sometimes i think about suicide.
Maybe we should create it?
The tragedy of this is that we're all saying the same things in this comment section
That argument about leaving people close to you traumatised by your death must have really hit hard for those who are suicidal and don't have a single person that would even notice, let alone care.
It hits hard for us who are loved by many yet hate ourselves and want out regardless too. The visions of doing that to them are torturous.
@@d1ssolv3r Exactly. At least people who aren't alone have a valid, objective reason to not give up. But if you hate life, hate yourself, don't see a point in keep on going plus you are completely alone, I think it's a safe bet that you're much more likely to take that final step, than someone who has support from others. In fact, being alone for too long can be the cause of depression. I would even risk a statement that people would prefer to be hated, than just invisible. If you're hated, well at least you're being noticed, even if in a negative way, it's better than to just be ignored. Then you can really feel like you're nobody.
@@kr-vm1bt Sometimes I wish I had absolutely noone, would make it a lot less painful/simpler. No devastation in your wake. I see where you're coming from. Family and friends are one of the few things that've kept me alive
Who gives a fuck when you're dead lolololi
There's always someone who cares, all they have to do is reach out to people and ask for help! If nobody arounds them can help them, then God will! I speak from personal experience!
Fun Fact: I had some pretty intense depression and incredible anxiety that invoked panic attacks, chest pain, heaviness in my left arm, all sorts of problems. I went to the ER dozens of times over the course of 2 years, it cost my family a fortune.
It was a gluten intolerance. When I removed gluten, 90% of my issues vaporized.
You are 1 of the 0.001%. Don't find this so relevant to push gluten shit on others
That's splendid news, however, panic attacks have been shown to be only existing in people with catastrophic interpretations of their bodily sensations. What they did was to inject people with yohimbine or sodium lactate, depending on the experiment, and only neurotic people reported the occurrence of panic attacks. Other people just felt agitated. Also their vitals were pretty similar, including blood pressure, heart rate etc. So while there is a strong somatic component to panic attacks, they are only possible in people already having anxious thoughts and a generally negative outlook on life.
I would suspect that the rest of your symptoms are similar in that regard. Also, what about that remaining 10%?
BTW, I have been suffering from panic attacks myself some 10 years ago, for a few months, but I eventually recognized that they are psychological in nature, then watched a video on RUclips with a relevant sort of a 'meditation', and never suffered from them again. That doesn't mean I don't get agitated anymore, it's just that I don't interpret these situations in a way that leads to panic. Years later, after having rehearsed various nutrients, electrolytes, vitamins, diets, sunshine exposure theory, outdoor activities, cardio, calisthenics etc etc etc ×100, I went to therapy and my life *really* started improving from that moment onwards. So that's why I'm a bit skeptical as to all of it being due to an intolerance of a dietary component - but as I say if you're better now, that's splendid and that's all that counts.
How did you find out?
Yea how do u find out?
How did you find out?
My son was held for 72 hours. They didn’t counsel him… they just watched him. 2 different hospitals now and neither really helped. In fact at the first a nurse ridiculed him in front of me.
After years now we are finally going in for a diagnosis. Pray for my son please… and a mother’s heart who knows she can’t save him herself.
Prayed a Hail Mary for you and your son.
Lets pray❤
So sad that nurse. ❤
I have tried to commit suicide several times as a young adult.
Now as a middle aged adult I again find myself weighing the pros and cons of being alive.
The hard part about being an adult is that people stop caring if you are in pain, and they completely ignore you when you do tell them that death is something you consider daily as an choice.
Then the realization that noone care sets in and you sink further into the pain.
Not sure where this is going because I have not found out yet.
Seek to grow spiritually , that could truly help a lot
May God bless your heart ❤ PS- you're not the only one who's been through what you've been through and I just want to say from my pov that it's a miracle you're still here, I think that is beautiful and that life has something great in store for you, God is not done with you, your story isn't over , joy is within your grasp. Seek is my advice , it does yield reward even if that is just insight after insight , eventually it can turn into an incredible meaningful life and you can help others to navigate theirs . You are blessed to be a blessing. Perhaps find out more about what that is or what that means in your life and or how you could apply it or simply become aware or on the lookout for things that become relevant to you in the way that you feel drawn to being, and be you. It's hard. But It takes tremendous strength and courage to stick around after surviving multiple attempts. I don't know where I'm going with this either. I suppose I can relate and it's not often I see or hear or speak to another who has survived multiple attempts. There is a point where you give up on giving up because you know it just won't work and what you have to do is keep going albeit painful and etc but hopefully what can be reflected to you is everything good that you are and that you do in such a way that you can fall in love with life and live it with joy it's not impossible. I think that because of that, there's an opportunity, and cutting yourself off from that is not fair. You have worth, it's time you begin to sink in to your value and rise above the pain and grow and eventually soar. Again, seeking spiritual help can expand your horizon and is most definitely worth a try. That's why I'm still breathing. ❤
@@zero1957 I hope ur okay ❤️
Hope you're doing okay.
neither have i, i want to be gone before i get too old so i don't become a vegetable, what a miserable existence
Doing emergency psychiatric in an ER, doctors from the surrounding 3 counties sent their suicide attempts to us. I had to decide if they needed hospitalization or could go home. Most were OD's and most were female. ALL of them asked me why I CARED. I never saw people so isolated .If you can make caring contact with someone who's depressed, do it.
Thank you for your work! I am a clinician at an inpatient psych facility receiving the kind of patients that you deem in need of further hospitalization. I know how difficult it can be to carry the burden of deciding when someone is ready to leave a controlled environment that has been suicidal. Prayers for wisdom for you in your position.
This is so true 😭
Yes, if this message actually resonated with direct family and true friends, all would end in different terms. But this is usually not the case. You feel alone and find out that indeed you are alone. The constant "i never knew", is hardly the truth
Most Depress people don’t advertise what they went through. Nobody in my family ( husband, son, parents, brothers, sister) knows my darkness. They all thought I am a feisty wife or a generous daughter/ sister/mom.
But, if they only observe, I don’t have friends, don’t go out much.
@@Lords-ok3do Some people have no family.
I'm here right now. I am alone. There's no clear path out. And I'm tired. Tired of fighting the same mental battle. Tired of all the awful things those I've loved have said to me playing over and over in my brain. They're all true. I've got nothing going for me. I'm pretty much at the end.
Aww, I'm sorry you're feeling that way! I relate on feeling alone! It's not fun! Wish you the best of luck!
hey have u tried meditation/ yoga?? Please look into them, they have helped me a lot so just wanted to share
Are you still here
I have felt suicidal regularly since my early 20's. I am now 39 and still suffer with these thoughts and feelings. I have found getting out and immersing myself in nature, trying to focus on the different species of plants and animals on display is very helpful. It helps me forget about my own problems and escape the torment of my own mind/ego. Listening to Dr Peterson has helped me a lot. Thank god for people like him who actually care and understand the suffering of their fellow humans.
if you like plants, look at the magic shrooms, could heal every Psychological illness
I'm glad you found something that comforts you and helps to take away the pain... People need to teach themselves effective ways to deal with their problems, suicide is not the answer, these thoughts come from the devil...
Keep going !
Yeh im similar i find that animals and nature helps
Keeping our brains busy like reading books helps a lot and remembering that this world is a test and there is a better world after this pain
It's pretty hard to wait when every moment of your life is agony.
Yooo
feeling a bit better? and how if you did?
@Justanother1ne still here. Not really feeling better. The lack of desire to live is still there.
"The past is dismal, and the present is unbearable, and the future is definitely worse, and it's all my fault."
I can relate.
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
If it's all your fault at least you can change and do better. If you always worked hard and tried your best and nothing workes it's an entirely different story.
That quote pretty much sums up my mind. Things are always getting worse.
Not everybody has someone to tell....some of us are completly alone
You have to make your own community sometimes. Not just find it because sometimes you can't. You have to make it. And that takes work. And a lot of hurt. But what is the alternative?
Sometimes you have someone and they dont understand you at all
+1
@@Vic82toire People that need somebody to talk to usually can't even reassemble themselves, and you want them to make a community? Let's be real- that's probably not happening ever. 🤨
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I don't make it out of the bed but I should make a community.....
Must be nice to have zero awerness
Yes, each of us carries their weight alone. Anyone pretending otherwise is selling something.
This interview found me the night I had my plan. It saved my life. I never want to hurt the people I love and who love me. This video was my wake up call to keep fighting. Thank you Jordan for your inspiring words. My family and friends can't thank you enough.
I lost my oldest son Michael to suicide May 2017 age 27. I miss him everyday. 😢 it changed me I had to learn to live without him which is the hardest thing to do 💔
Sorry for your loss
My condolences Michelle. I wish you peace❤️🩹🫂
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your dear son.
You are not alone.
11.02.22 my daughter, one month before turning 18.
I not only had to learn to live without her but also to dig in my own past and meet my "demons" again which turned me into an emotional unstable parent - not knowing how devastating it would affect her and also my other two kids.
Some time it just can't be fixed, some times the continuation of life just feels so unbearable and pointless
I literally just stopped myself by watching this. That’s all I’m going to say. That’s how powerful and meaningful Jordan is to me.
😢Bro, I'm glad you're alive.
Update us please
please talk to someone - family friends or even professionals - if you feel the same way again. Stay strong!
Thank you for being you.
Thank you for your honesty.
You are more special than you will ever know. ❤️
God does not make mistakes. You were created for a reason. You are needed in the world. You are worth it, so hang in there. Much love.
Procrastination is my best thing.
I got up yesterday, did dishes ,had breakfast, walked the dog, got ready for an appointment --then realized it was Sunday, not Monday. My usual waking thought is I just can't even. But some how I got a free day.
May Allah guide you
@@JimmyJhonny Thanks, and you also 🌹🌹🌹🌹
@@BeckyFarkas-he1cj Remember that neither happiness lasts forever nor Sorrow and Pain
@@JimmyJhonny All things must pass...
Echoing what many others have said - i am alive today because by the grace of God i found Dr. Peterson.
Thank you.
Life fucking sucks
The hospital just makes it worse😢
It doesn't matter if someone is suicidal. If they have a plan or not. Someone who says they feel like they want to die should NEVER be taken lightly. Why would you want someone to suffer like this. I once had a nurse tell me it was normal to want to die as long as you don't do anything about it. Yeah that's super helpful!
Suicidal ideation possibly are more common then people admit too but 😂the poor nurses are always flat out and have to triage, they probably have it down to a science who needs their immediate attention and who can wait
Nurse once told me, we can't save you all.
The nurse is correct. You’re just ignorant of many things about the realities of life. I hope one day you can figure this out.
Normal u think about dying every----- day feels painful to me have to keep talking myself out of it
Its true, many people think this way when very upset, but they are not serious about it.
Dr Peterson is a very vital and wise person who is much needed in today's world. He is to be protected and cherished. I owe a lot of turning my life arourd to Jordan. God Bless.
Those types of thoughts are how I found Jordan’s content in the first place. After I had thought threw how I was gonna do it for most of a morning I cried and thought I needed help. Thanks Jordan for the help.
you deserve to be happy keep fighting the urge of feeling horrid inside we all deserve life and to enjoy it.
maybe i can help you?
Was having suicidal thoughts years back. I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder 20 years ago as a teenage. Got diagnosed with cptsd. Spent my whole life fighting cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
How can I find him? Is he on insta
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an
obsession with violence.
Yes he ships! Got mine shipped here in Luxembourg 🇱🇺
I am trying to find more info on this got a supplier? Are the mushrooms inspected for illegal substances? to many times non hard drugs has fentanl in it..killing this user.
I did try to commit suicide and jumped 5 stories almost exactly 3 years ago to the day. I survived and spent 2 1/2 months in the hospital after extensive reconstructive surgery to my face, jaw and a snapped leg. It's a brutally difficult thing to go through, but if anything I would say don't do it because you could actually survive and have to face the long term physical consequences like I do now.
Jesus dude, hope your doing ok ❤
I hope you gained insight from it all brother
Bullshit
I'm thinking about doing it.But not 5 stories.Theres a building here in town,the talest in town.It's 145 meters,no way i make it out alive.
@@TheMATHEHOUSEYou're only inviting more hell, friend. The chances may seem low, but life is cruel and modern healthcare will never let you die if they get you. I only didn't for years because I feared surviving. My advice is: if this life is so garbage that you need to throw it away then do it. But to start a new one instead of just ending it. Run away. I'm serious. Take what ever money you have even if it's a couple bucks and just leave everything. Start driving or walking or whatever. Go somewhere new and don't look back. Look up shelters and churches and just ask for help when you need it. Find a small business and ask for an under the table job. You might as well say fuck it and try something new. Leave a note for anyone you care for. Better to disappear from their lives then make them live with your death.
The thing about Jordan’s attitude is that the pain of those who are close to wanting to end themselves is etched upon his face. It’s nice, when you’re at that threshold of despair, to see a man like this who genuinely feels - not just “knows” - but feels that pain. Thank you Jordan.
Im really glad he said the people who love you would never recover from it, this has definitely helped me.
That’s it. And the children I want to adopt who will never be adopted.
That's the worst point here
@@SapienSafari There will be other people like you
I won’t forget the night I listened to this on the side of the Bourne bridge ready to go ready to go had enough of this world I’m 6 months and 1 day sober. I’m not great. But I’m not dead. Don’t give up.
When I'm in my own world, it surely feels like no one else is here but me.
do you have a garden, pets and know how to heal with nature?
My love killed herself the june 16 2023. She was shizophrenic. I miss her so much. Now she's over her suffering. She was intelligent, maybe to much for this society. I just want to talk to her, hug her, but that's not possible anymore. She's in the ground. I miss her so much. Love from France to everyone
May Allah guide you
Such a thoughtful, compassionate and intelligent man. I always love hearing his take on things.
Some things are beyond a person's control.
"Maybe you don't actually WANT to die. Perhaps you just want to kill the part of yourself that hurts?"
- An Angel I once met.
I love this and will definitely refer to this in the future ❤
Here are my versions that saved me and turned my life around:
It's not really your body you want to kill, but the vice and poison that is torturing you. Think about it. If you can find the strength to kill yourself, then you can find the strength to kill your poison.
It's not the pain that destroys us, it's the things we do to avoid it.
If your life is so painful that you constantly want to die, then you can handle the pain of making all the right decisions to improve your life. You are already in hell, you are already supporting the worst. It might even get better, who knows? Try something new.
“Stay alive just to spite the f*ckers who’d wish you dead.”
- A devilsh Angel I once met
If a person wants to die it's because they don't see the solution to their situation any longer and usually they've used all the tools they had to fix things. It's the state of complete hopelessness where you stop caring or not caring about anything, even your children. There's nothing, no pain, no joy, no colour, no morning no evening, just deadly indifference and the only thing that makes sense is "I don't want to exist in this state any more". This is how I felt. At some point even pain stops and if all feelings stop you know you're in trouble. A person who still fights feels pain or joy or anything but they feel.
everything hurts
This message means a lot to me. Ive been a loyal fan and listening to Dr JBP for a few years now, love his work. For the past 6 months, Ive been cutting myself and having multiple attempt of taking my own life. Ive struggle with depression and hopelessness since I was 14 years of age. My first suicide attempt was when I was 19 where I almost died. Im 29 this year and after all these years, I've finally came to agreement with my family that I needed to seek professional help and confront all my demons from my childhood trauma. I've begin to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist as well. Its been life changing and I had to also under go ECT therapy. I was in the psychiatric ward for 2 weeks for this. And it changed me forever. Seeing other people suffering from severe mental illness really ignite the empathy in me like never before. Im also a man of God and having my true Christians family by my side and supporting me in these hard times without any judgement or condemnation has been a blessing. This has really ignite the fire in me to pursue my studies in psychology and helped people who struggle with similar battles that I did. Im truly grateful for you doctor and you've been a blessing to a lot of us. Im doing much better now and very hopeful for what the future might bring. I've always wanted a family, a wife and children. Lastly, if there is one thing I've learn throughout all these years dealing with my battles is that you must confront all the demons, monsters and dragons in your life. Never suppressed it or sweep it under the rug, sooner or later it will come back and haunt you. Thank you. God bless.
Wow this is beautiful.. thanks for sharing and all the very best to you 💛
I wish you healing!
It is good that you have so much insight into your own state of mental health.
I cannot emphasize more the importance of it esp when you want to have a family in future.
It's not just about you and getting on with your spouse etc but esp esp how you will be able to be present and emotionally stable with your kids.
Kids need from an early age strong attachment to their primary caregivers and a functional family system.
I just wrote about the "demons" in anothe comment - yes! You have to face them, learn how they affected you, be kind to yourself and allow yourself the process of grief (over what you didn't have or over what happend to you) and them reparent your inner child (Shadowwork).
Reading about your selfharm brought back deep sadness and memories to me.
When you see your scars - be sure that you will overcome and never meevr feel ashamed of them!
I hope that you will be able to pursue your career in the mental health field - someone who hit rock bottom can emphasise really with the ones who are at that place.
All the best to you!
People don't realise just how hard life can be when you're at your absolute lowest point, the stage at which death would be preferable to existing; it's not something you can appreciate without experiencing it first hand. When you have nobody who cares for you, you may have people who are dependent on your labour (work colleagues for example) but when that amounts to nothing on a social scale and you can see no escape, it's like trying to run a marathon on your knees. When life is so gut-churningly difficult that you can scarcely face another day, other people or any kind of interaction, the level of strength you have to muster to prevent yourself from performing the ultimate sacrifice is immense. There's the key thing, it's the ultimate sacrifice, do you want that to be your footnote?
Its the ultimate test as well my God.
I like how simple his advice is. Thank you
Had an episode at work recently and basically had to beg to keep my job. You have to be careful who you confide in because a lot of people are pretty apathetic towards someone who’s struggling
THIS is why most times I keep my problems to myself, I don't trust anyone enough to confide completely in them. Maybe that's what's killing me slowly ......😢
Thank you Jordan - you have saved me and many. ❤
If you are not vegan, you are an animal abuser and a murderer. Dominion (2018) 👈
I suffer from anxiety and depression. Sometimes the thoughts get so unbearable that I have suicidal fantasies. I’ve planned and plotted but never took action, thank god. Recently, the tendencies have died down a lot which I am beyond grateful for. For those out there suffering with depression and anxiety, you’re not alone. I understand that it’s hard, but I promise you, things will get better for us. There’s nowhere to go but forward, brothers and sisters! Live on 🤘
its gonna be okay. i have similiar struggles. ❤
But we're all alone.
My youngest sister was physically abused by her spouse and couldn’t take it anymore. She competed suicide and My Father never recovered,
I for one don’t blame her for wanting out. She had reached more than what she could handle and proceeded to try to permanently end that pain,
Which caused more pain.
It’s always horrible for those left behind. I get that.
But people need to stop blaming themselves and criminalizing the deceased for wanting out of pain.
As someone who thinks about suicide frequently, I really wish people would treat those who feel this way as someone who might also have cancer or something similar that may or may not be treatable. Can we just love one another and cherish each other for as long as we draw breath. It isn’t telling someone not to jump that stops them. It’s trying to understand their pain. Sitting with them in their darkest moments while they try to push everyone away and to hide the pain because they feel ashamed or terrified. We need to feel we matter to someone or something in this lonely messed up planet.
Keep going!
Today I was shamed by a loved one when I confided in them and compared it to a terminal disease. I would take my life rather than suffer the pain of the end of a terminal disease (like I saw my mother go through last month) and would end it so my family wouldn't have to suffer seeing me in pain as well. It is one in the same for suicide for me.
Preach! It is not a selfish act it’s selfish for us to want someone to stay around despite the pain whatever that cause is that led to the act.
61 yrs old still suffering.Just keep putting it off ..today.I came pretty close..
I'm sorry you have gone so long feeling like this. I am not even half of your age but, you are so strong for holding on for so long. Please keep going!
Hey good luck man, I'm doing better now and it does get better eventually and if not, we only get so many trips around the sun anyway.
Hang in there man. The end is near for all of us anyways. I do believe that. Might as well try to squeeze out a few drops of simple human pleasure in the meantime and see how it ends.
As someone who has really struggled with these thoughts and plans without telling anyone , I have to think of my wife and kids, they need me. They love me, much more than I can hate myself. I cannot and will not put them through that pain. So I soldier on, and it will pass. Tough times don't last forever.
my father committed suicide and i can tell you that is the best way to destroy a family and leave your love ones with a pain that will never go away . tell someone your thoughts . your family would much rather listen to you than have a life-long guilt for not being able to help you. i send love and prayers to you and ur family ❤️
@masonmeeks-johnson6730 thank you.
@@bigdeano4459 I hope you're doing better, and remember people care and need you. You aren't alone.
@@Lux-IceCream-fx8tq I have changed jobs and taken steps to better myself. Much happier now, thanks.
How could a person prevent the pain and destruction from affecting their family? Do you think a well written note would work?
My older brother and my step father both commited suicide a few years apart.
These seperate incidents have torn our family to shreds.
There were warning signs. Yes. We all should have done more. If I could go back in time, I would have bear hugged them both and not let go until they were both in professional help.
Not let either of them be alone.
Jordan Peterson's attention to the sensitivity and the insight he gives upon this matter is appreciated by many. I am certain.
Go to the hospital? Yeah right. Those ghouls get ahold of you you’ll wish you’d never crossed that threshold.
I'm sorry if you had that bad experience with hospital treatment. But for many, it literally can be a life saver.
@@savvyladylondon5841 Depends on the hospital I suppose but I have absolutely zero confidence in the psychiatric profession…. absolutely zero. Few if any are within a light year of Jordan in terms of integrity, intelligence, sincerity, or depth of perception and of those that do the overwhelming majority have long since been shackled into utter paralysis by an industry possessed by unbridled greed and profound stupidity…. and I’m choosing my words carefully. If one becomes existentially overwhelmed it is always for good reason and to put oneself in the hands of these drug pushers theses days is very seldom a choice that leads to a positive result.
I did it when I was in the military. Do NOT cross that line. The hospital does not care. To them it's just protocol and you're a number. I wasn't suicidal, but depressed. The people inside the psych are heavily, heavily medicated. Very bad spot to be in when I really just needed someone to talk to. Basically, in order to get out, a panel of doctors have to clear you. Best acting I ever did and they bought it and released me the next day. Of course I thought that these doctors weren't that bright if they got smoozed by a 19 year old.. anyways, people should not go that route for help unless they literally have the finger on the trigger. They'll be fighting depression along with these "professionals" to "let you go".
I respect all the experiences being spoken about here. In the West, statistics show higher male suicide numbers, and it is so very sad that men are saying that hospitals and treatment centres are making it worse and not better! I also think the other points Peterson made are spot on, and I hope people feeling suicidal take so much comfort from that ❤️🙏
I live in a state with red flag laws. I can't talk to anyone unless I want to lose my rights.
this is a gift, thank you jordan, i came on here by chance, thinking tonight not of ending it but of how on earth can i go on, no strength, no love, so isolated, so afraid, so pointless looking into the future, yet your mention of leaving peope in a wake of catastrophic destruction, though i was not unaware of this, left me feeling like i'd been rolled inthe ice and snow and it has taken the immediate heat of my situation, so again, thank you
Thank you. OMG i didn’t even know that could be a cause of depression. I was battling suicidal depression for 3 months, I am better now but I am going through diagnostics with my doctor over hair loss, rashes, insomnia, pain, fatigue, low blood pressure- just not well and now in process of trying to figure out which autoimmune disorder I have as that what she thinks is wrong. And I can’t believe I didn’t tell her about the depression because it didn’t occur to me that it was anything other than emotional. I didn’t think they could be related. THANK YOU. You just saved my life❤️
Check your house for black mold anywhere with moisture. Bath, toilet, windows, doors, refrigerator, AC. Google images to identify. It releases Mycotoxins which cause everything you describe, including lingering depression, fatigue, insomnia, brain fog, low blood pressure, heart palpitations, anxiety like you wouldn't believe, hormone disruptions, rashes, and much more. Don't get on the track of taking meds until a last resort. Check the air filter of your AC, and in your car too. Remove any found mold with straight bleach, taking care to wear rubber gloves to prevent mycotoxin saturation through the skin. Wear a high-grade mask too. A supplement called NAC is super powerful for removing mycotoxins from cells and the bloodstream along with Glutathione. I take 1 capsule of NAC morning/night and after 2 days I experienced a noticeable increase in energy, better sleep, better energy, and hormone increase (which I won't elaborate on). It's worth a try if you find any mold, and NAC can be bought in any health foods store for cheap.
It's been 2 years since I attempted. I'm still recovering. I will live with permanent reminders for the rest of my life. That being said. In the earlier days of recovery, I had lots of time on my hands and used it to my advantage. Through psychotherapy and reading, I had discovered what plagued my mind after 30 years on this earth. Today, I am very different from who I was 2 years ago and I will be very different 2 years from now. God bless.
❤🌱
Ask Jesus to heal you. Love and peace.
Jordan you're like everyone's 'Daddy', giving all that solid knowledge and advice. I wish my son had met you. He committed suicide in 1999, had told his friend who kept quiet. The blame still lingers. God bless you, your family and all that you do. xxx
God bless, wishing good will and recovery to you and your family❤️🙏
So sorry to hear. My heart goes out to you 💔
"Daddy"
*gags* lmao
I think there is a slight bit of an issue with the way society works, someone commits suicide and it is labeled as a crime. The suicidal person is treated like a lose end and the State and society treat them as such, but there is always a chain of events that lead to it, these events were caused by many irregular agents or chaos in the very system called society. How is it that we criminalize the victim and not the chain itself and the people who contributed to the creation of that chain. There are a lot of people partaking on injustice.
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As someone who has a plan to kms in 2 years I have realeised that people, esspecially family are deaf. You ask your parents nicely to stop yelling and they yell more, you ask your sibling to live you alone and they want to fight you, you ask someone to stop speaking while your working and they start insulting you. After all of that they will say: You look depressed because you dont leave your room ( I run or bike at least 10km per week😑)
If you are reading this like I am… you are not alone. Thank you Sr. This was just what I needed to hear.
You are the most amazing person that exists…. We have never met, never communicated, but i feel closer to you thru your videos than my own parents, family, and most of my friends…. Thank god for you
Thank you for the video. After my friend unalived I've been struggling, and I wish I could have sent it to him, but the words are comforting. "If I could of just been there..."
"There's many pathways to desparation." In the '70's, I was in group therapy and from time to time, special group sessions were held, e.g. one was held for suicidal patients. As I have never been suicidal, it was not appropriate for me to be there. However, the conclusion of the attending patients as to the common denominator of suicidal ideation was publicly shared, namely a feeling that only suicide could eliminate the pain.
“I can always do it tomorrow” was one of the most successful de-escalators for me.
You can also start applying to jobs or clean your room or sign up to the gym or fix your life in whatever way tomorrow too and keep postponing it so nothing ever gets done in your life.
But then that piece of advice falls apart quickly lol
Thank you for being you and I am learning so much from you. I have been suicidal on and off for a couple of years now and listening to you has been life saving! I have also been inspired to start school to become a therapist and hope to help people!! We need less hate and more understanding in this world!! 🌟
you deserve happiness and to be alive also once you are better and whole you can then help people.
speaking from experience but also i know what you mean once you have been to a dark place you don't want people going to that same place.
That's true! Less hate and more understanding. Now that would be a miracle. Never been so judged in my life. Been judged in my life since i'm 4 years old.
I going to be a therapist too. Hope we have the chance to meet one day
My mom is fighting depression and suicidal thoughts for about 6 years.
We as a family fight this battle with her.
But I do know that there is a chance every single day that I could get the call.
It's hard that you can't do shit, but only be there for them.
If I could carry the heavy load for her I would do it in a heartbeat.
Exactly the same here. My mom tried to kill herself 3 times but is still here. I’m also expecting a call everyday it’s fucking dreadful. She’s been depressef for 7-8 years and is addicted to benzos at the point that the doctors don’t know what to do
@@camfre4k Yeah it really is dreadful.
We've put medicine she needs in a locked box. And the other medicine she now gets from a little machine with a timer, giving the exact amount she needs for the day.
Changes for her to grab to much pills is now a bit smaller.
But we also know she could take knives to do it.
Sadly you can't make everything 100% without having them at home.
I have to rely on my dad that he keeps a good eye on her.
If you need someone to talk about, I'm there.
Just let me know and we set something up to talk.
People who are not in this situation don't fully understand so it's harder to talk to them.
Being there for her is the biggest part-- the most important. My 2 kids could care less if I were alive, or dead. They have abandoned me when I needed them the most. I'm totally different now, than I was 2 years ago, before this happened. Now, I no longer care about anything, except my pets. Without them, I wouldn't be here, that I do know!!
This man is blessed by God. Thank you JP for everything.
Blessed by God lol, the same god that will let many struggle to live with depression and suicidal thoughts, he sounds great
Jesus is a scammer and ruined my life.
Thank you Dr. Peterson, I'll remember "you can always do it tommorrow". And I didn't expect to but I broke down and cried when you mentioned that my loved ones would be affected and would never recover if I go through with my suicide. My family, especially my little princess has been the factor that has always stopped me when I was about to go through with it. Thank you for the message.
Dude same.. My little girl and my two boys stop me from doing it to... If i didnt have them i would already be dead. And everytime i feel so down that i wanna kill myself and think about them and i cry and get torn inside but i just cannot do that to them...
I hear this a lot, but what if you don't have any "loved ones?"
Thank you so much , Sir ❤ this was very much necessary
doing it tomorrow has kept me alive for the last 15 years
how does it feel?
@@Justanother1ne I forgot I made this comment. Honestly, better than ever. I still have hard days every once in a while but I have found real fulfillment in a few things and I'm so glad I stuck around all those hard years.
@@riverrat5822 nice hearing that ;)
Good to hear you're doing better but the "do it tomorrow" advice is dumb. Would he say that about getting a job, or signing up to a gym, or cleaning your room or any other thing in life? No lol
@keifer7813 you obviously didn't watch the video. Do it tomorrow is what you tell yourself when you are considering sending yourself on the one way permanent trip to sleepy town. Keep yourself alive by always telling yourself "what's the rush, I can do it tomorrow."
I’m all alone, I have no one
You are never alone God is with you always just call out to Him ....He will answer I promise ❤
@@donnasheppard7371 ugh please dont torture him further with this bs
You’ll be alright. 🤙🏽
The work you do Mr Jordan will save many people's lives. Many people are depressed with very little hope.
There is some hope, do searching for the solution and you will find...
I don’t have any family, none. It is a constant struggle to fit in and not feel lonely; specially around the holidays. I cherish my memories of my wonderful mother and stepfather, and former pets.
Please get a new pet. Having something to take care of might help you and give you some companionship. I wish you the best.
Please help me
@@jenniferj5324 Thank you.
Thank you Dr. Peterson. You’ve made a significant impact on the man I’ve become today.
All I want is for the self hatred to stop. Once it starts, I can't control that voice and it can go on for days. It eats me alive and leaves me feeling empty and exhausted. I've talked to a few people and they tell me the same thing "lifes hard, find a hobby, see the bright side, be grateful.." but the voices consume my life. I just want to feel whole again. I have detailed plans but I can't do anything until the people who rely on me are gone..
I am so close to ending it. So much despair. Feel so alone
Are you still here? Please still be here
You're not alone, I think about it hourly i just don't want to hurt my family . Sending love to you
@@Ash-ty9nd even I’ve been doing better, there is hope for everyone
My daughter Sarah suicided 21 years ago, she struggled with depression, I had a feeling deep within me there was a deep dread , and I would wake up in the middle of night with a thought time is running out, I was walking on eggshells around what I said to her or how I said things, if I upset her she would go inland lightning Ridge where she was a opal cutter and jeweller, I hated this town, for lots of reasons to much alcoholism in this town to many problems sometimes I would be trying to track her down just to know if she was ok, I would leave at 3am in the morning to arrive at close to 7pm at night with my heart in my throat always fearful of her being in this very harsh rough and ready town undesirable moving through this town, the town post says welcome to lightning Ridge population unknown, two type of bullet holes into the metal, Sarah started using drugs in this town , and for two years before she suicided she changed rapidly, I told her I couldn't live with out her she promised me she would never hurt herself,
3 month's later she ended her life,
I say to many people just stay another day, tomorrow might be better,
Im so sorry.. x
@@PlumGustave hello sarahparr thank you,
My Sarah was 20 years old, when she died.
She has now been dead 21, I have lived longer with her death now than I had her in my life, she was the most beautiful person ,
If you or anyone you know is troubled with thoughts of suicide, talk to someone , and keep talking to someone
Truly just stay another day,
never be ashamed,
god has other plans for us,
I'm so sorry for the loss of your beloved daughter.
@@NYNC88 thank you , I will always still be her mum, I'm sorry for anyone who is facing that news today,
We must learn to talk openly about our struggles, our fears shout it from the top of sky scrapers if we must until everyone knows they must never be ignored or let down again by the paid actors in our systems God bless you and your life ahead
no one loves me so no one will be hurt by me leaving
You will be hurt, more than you know. And for a hundred selfish people, there will always be some silent angels willing to love you regardless. You may see them on the streets, at the busstop, they're around if you're willing to reach out to them.
I think I might have a reasonable idea of the kind of situation you're in right now. You feel helpless, useless, miserable in a way that makes you want to end it.
Let me explain something to you. Love and hate, good and evil, they're much like light and dark and for good reason. Suppose you have a dark room. You may not see the furniture, you may not walk or you'll bump against all kinds of things, your life will be catastrophic.
All you have to do is turn on the light. Love is a fire that grows, and to love is to be loved. It starts with you. Learn to love the man that insults you, learn the love the woman that rejects you, learn to love the people that don't love you back.
I assure you, do this and you will be cured within 7 days. Please try. It'll be a relief.
How are you doing friend?
I understand I feel like that
I’m not going to bullshit you. You might be right. But that’s not the worst thing that can happen. You’ll be alright. 🤙🏽
I'm getting closer. Everyday is a struggle to just keep afloat but I don't even see a reason, much less a road to recovery.
The pain my family would feel is pretty much the only thing holding me here
We all carry the weight of despair alone. Because every moment of our lives there are people pretending to care, pretending to want to hear from you. No one can convince me that a therapist will help or listen if he or she is not paid for it. The only thing we can do for people with suicidal thoughts is to be there, to be present. Don't say anything, act, and they will see truth in you when you reach them to help.
My thoughts exactly. Talk to people who really don’t care? No thanks
I'm not suicidal but I still relate to this, Ive always had trust issues with certain people but the one person I trusted most just ghosted me recently, and it kinda shattered whatever line between trust and distrust that I had, I don't know anymore who's actually giving a damn about me
6:35 as someone who was VERY suicidal for a long time and didn't realize I was suicidal until talking to friends and realized that most people don't fantasize about killing themselves on a daily basis: the long lasting damage is sometimes the motivation for suicide. Like how school shooters want to be "noticed", suicide is an effective means of being permanently "noticed" and permanently "remembered". There is a certain level of comfort in knowing that you can sort of get back at everyone who made you feel bad by making them feel terrible.
Obviously, this is terrible thinking, but I just want it to be known that telling someone who is suicidal that they will "permanently affect people's lives" is not a strong argument to get them to stop. In some cases, it is a selling point.
Exactly! I'm currently suicidal and this came across as a selling point to me.
I guess we all have to find our own reasons to live? Some reasons work for others, and some don't.
And you're so right about the being "remembered" part. That is also one of my motivations, to get back at the people who did me wrong? Like there's no way you can argue about what you did to me anymore, because I'm gone. And it'll be quite clear who was the abused one. And then maybe all the people who weren't there for me and called me "crazy" would finally realize.
Again, all of it sounds like a fantasy. But a fantasy you can make come true.
@@duakhan8448 The issue with that is that you're still losing in long-run. If your whole life is dictated by getting back at people who wronged you or making them feel bad then you need to find a better purpose or goal in life.
Suicide is tempting when all of your current goals have failed and it seems like the most powerful way to get back at the world, but that's usually because you've limited your scope on what you can do and haven't weighed your options properly. As it is well known, people who jump off the Brooklyn bridge and survive always regret it on the way down. The thought is tempting until you do it and realize "Oh frick, I REALLY could've tried something different" or "Oh, wait, why didn't I just apply to a couple more jobs per day?". There are plenty of options available that AREN'T suicide.
Also, I think JP mentioned this before, but when I was suicidal it was sort of a biological clock where around the same time everyday I would get suicidal. It took me a while to realize that I wasn't suicidal because of the quality of the day, I was suicidal based on the time of the day. Sort of like Pavlov's dog, I think I became so depressed for so long that suicidal thinking became a natural biological response and the fix to it was medication and moving to live with my family for a few years. Honestly, the family aspect did way more than the medication did. I started working different jobs and changed my expectations on life for a few years and that helped a bunch.
Having people to talk to helps. Find a community group of sorts where you can talk frequently.
I eventually got off medication but I've made sure that I talk to people on a weekly basis as I have a tendency to stop talking to everyone for weeks on end unless I forced myself to. Genuine conversations really make a difference.
@@duakhan8448 you're not gonna revenge on people who did you wrong by killing yourself, that's how you're gonna make them win. Because people who did you wrong on purpose want to see you down obviously. and also are not likely capable of regretting their actions even after you commit suicide. They just don't care about you enough. You get back to them by flourishing and thriving after their low punches and basically laughing at their faces by doing so. Hope that helps. 🤙
I guess some people feel that way, but I feel the opposite. I fantasize about disappearing and everyone instantly forgetting about me. But that's impossible. I don't want to hurt anyone or be remembered. I just don't want to exist right now. The fact it would hurt my loved ones keeps me from doing it.
At my lowest point I told everyone close to me for weeks and every single one of them did nothing to help me.
I was lacing up my shoes to go finish the "plan" and got a random call from an old friend at 11:48 at night. I took that as a sign that God still had plans for me and it was enough to get me through.
My life had fallen apart the previous 2 years and it turned out the side effects from the psychiatric medications I was prescribed had pushed me past my breaking point.
It's been 7 years and while life isn't perfect it's definitely worth living.
Hi, I feel the same you are not alone i send you love and light i too Am alone i wish To have real friends
@glowshine8102
I'm sorry to hear that. I can't say I have a lot of friends but I have a few I'm close to and especially my daughter who will be turning 10.
Funny thing is when I decided to not use the "back up plan" it was actually kind of stressful because then I had to figure out how to get my life back on track. I have had a lot of luck meeting people at church. It took awhile to find the right one but if you take the time to it might help you to connect with some good people. I just had to realize they were all as messed up as I am
There is a dilemma I have faced many times now, that I have had those thoughts, wanting someone to share my burden with me but always wanting to share other peoples and but when someone comes along to share my burden, its not the right person and I realise that I want someone specific to share it with me and that emptiness is a result of not having that person. Yet it still remains. This is why therapy doesn't always work.
Talk to me, when you feel depressed...
I hope this video reaches out to more and more people. Dr. Peterson puts it in such a comprehensive and empathetic manner while including also a fun part that you can always do it the next day. Although I don't like some political opinions of his, when it comes to videos like this, he is always a Gem to the world.
I have no family and no one who cares to tell. The thought of going to a hospital scares the hell out of me!
How about me?
Yeah, tell us. Could you throw in a couple of chases and a gunfight into the story though, for entertainment value? And aliens too! And a chapter of Space Marines that saves the day.
It's true, when someone close to you commits suicide it destroys you, it makes you feel guilty forever. At the same time, people who are suffering seek peace, and I understand that too.
I struggled so much with suicidal thoughts through the years, as early as 17 years old. I’m 25 now. I’m on the path to recovery. I’m working on it & I can say this is the most “normal” I’ve felt. I’ve managed my thoughts with therapy & medication & I have a good community. But I’m terrified if I’ll snap one day. The thoughts & the resolution of suicide has been so embedded in my system, I’m worried that’ll be the only solution I know when my life is in a crisis (heartbreak, death of my parents, etc) I am trying to work through trusting myself & be able to become rational if things go downhill.
I wish you the best of luck. I'm unfortunately still struggling with suicidal thoughts at times at age 23! It's not as bad before, but it's still not great, obviously!
I watch a majority of your videos, I consider you to be one of the most intellectual and positive influential speakers we have to day, and hold you in the highest regards, especially whenever anyone around me mentions your name, your lectures on children helped me with raising my 6yr old son tremendously, I’m just hoping you can make more videos like this 1, it absolutely helps me and I know for a fact when I was suicidal it would have most likely made sure an attempt was never made, I beg you continue to make more videos similar , even shorts, and applaud you for not shying away from the challenge of discussion around these kinds of topics, please Mr.Peterson if you are reading this, consider a longer video on it!❤ P.S(or possibly even the Canadian wildfires, that would suffice seeing how bad they’ve gotten, records being broke & how it’s impacting the United States as well, your from Canada if I remember correctly and no one’s even coming close to really addressing it, I’m sure it would not only bring traffic to your channel, but help give a better perspective to the people, I’ve sense experiencing so much air pollution and problems in Michigan been eagerly & patiently waiting to say the least for you to speak on it & it seems like it’s not gonna happen cause it’s been months and there’s nothing, not sure why that’s not something you’ve spoke about publicly but I’d find it very rewarding to hear your thoughts on it! Random but had to add it in case you do see this. Thanks for your time and all you’ve done for us.) sincerely, Kyle Edward.
U of A represent! Love listening to you Dr. Peterson. I’ve struggled with these thoughts since I was a child, so thank you for the message 🌞
there is help
"I'm better now", why don't I believe that.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to give shrooms a try.
Yes, bergwilly11_
A lot of people have testified about this and I really want to give it a shot. I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels
Shrooms was definitely the best trip I ever had. It was amazing!
Can bergwilly send to me in PA?
I didn' want to hear that it can traumatise some of the few people who I left behind. One of the reasons I'm still around, is that I'v had responsabilities for others.. I don't want to hear I can't leave, I want to believe they can handle it now. I have no future, and I can't hang around feeling horrible, lonley, and soon homeless, decades after decades, for others sake anymore
I hope you will reach out to me and I'll be your friend. I'm so sorry and I want both of us to be happy.
@@vanner66thank u so much, but life really sucks
This is the part people forget. They will endlessly guilt trip you to not do it and stay here for what? Another decade? 20, 30, 40 more years when you could just be gone today? THAT is cruel
I personally think it's a little different when you got kids as a responsibility but only you know your circumstances, man. Maybe you've been through something so painful that it overshadows the pain your kids will feel by you taking your own life