and then you climb some divisions and are always forced to play this easy mechanics champs... if you wanna get some quick lp yeah i agree...but in the long run you dont get much with always playing easy champs
@@xing2937 well easy champ help you focus on learning the fundamental without getting slammed all the time you can still learn the champ mechanic/match up later but if the person have no idea what they're doing or even worse what they wanna do it's not gonna matter what champ you're playing it's like they're playing a different game entirely.
nah you pack a champ that you think looks cool, as a beginner my champs were vel'koz and aurelion sol and I ended up diamond promos when i decided to take ranked seriously
just play fucking annie bro there is no way you can perform worse on him than Zoe, its a burst mage with some CC but its point and click. His other mid champs are Fizz and Irelia! Iron IV Irelia mechanics why is he doing this to himself?
I'm telling you, you need to help this person and make it into a video. Then like the last I said you should just make a series where you help people like this Zoe.
...the locked screen isn't the reason one gets in Iron IV. Edit: After watching the entire video I don't think they play on a locked screen at all. The movements. The targets they focus on. It's not center focused.
@@voilvelev6775 If you are upset with LoL locked screen just go to Dota that forces unlocked screen. In LoL you really just control one character. Seeing what's happening outside your characters vision isn't really needed for the most part. If it is, you can just click directly on the mini map to look and then when you let go you snap back to your character. For the few abilities that you actually need to aim outside the screen, you just need to unlock it for that and then relock it. I honestly hate when a teammate dies because they were watching a fight when they should have been paying attention to the only character they could actually control.
there is so many like this zoe the problem is they follow online guides blindly without really understanding the game sometimes i see that 1 adc that refuse to hit the tank in a team fight when the enemy team shred his tank and types in chat why go for the tank when his team don't have any fed divers, they some stuff they saw online but they don't really know when it's viable, it's always there team fault how can it be there's they have challenger level game knowledge
my opinion is that videos truly dont help what so ever, you can watch every single guide out there but you WILL NOT improve if you arent going to dedicate the hours and thousands of games to learn, i went from bronze just watching videos wondering why none were helping even when i felt i was fully applying what id learned until i started watching my own games and analyzing them after that i quickly climbed to plat and now im working on polishing my mechanical skills and my map/objective awareness so i can climb even higher
@@surr3ald3sign agreed, I told my friend who’s starting right now you can watch some vids to understand how the champs work and such but don’t really expect to learn anything about team fighting, laning etc because your not going to applying challenger level micro and macro to your games, you just have to learn through playing and experience in your own elo
This person just needs to play a less mechanically intense champ. I know im not great, so I dont play champs that require huge mechanical prowess, and have plenty more fun that way
i mained zed mid when i first started taking the game seriously... it was mistake 😂 now i play nasus top and just cock slap ppl with a 1k stack q out of nowhere and they shit themselves bc they thought i lost lane 😂
@@sjie1874 Lol I literally got S+ on my 3rd game with Jarvan :D Given, I was playing super nasty cheese build (Lethal Tempo, max E), but still, it was ridiculous :D You should try it, its super dumb. You just right click them to death (unless you get chain cc-ed :D )
@@DailyFacts2016 it isn't but I already saw this in his channel at the bottom where he puts his unlisted videos you can find them there. It not a reupload its just a re-listed video
I have been playing league for less than a year so I’m very bad still but Zoey’s CSing against a melee matchup that’s so easy to bully and deny cs and and and... it just made me cry okay?
It's out of this world. The Zoe knows what to do but she doesn't know how to do it. She could try Lux for a kickstarter (She has simpler kit than Zoe and can snowball if all the abilities landed) because Zoe's not going to help her to climb up at this point.
2:35 - the exact same spectator glitch happened in a TSM game this year where minion autos disappeared in the EXACT same place in toplane after a flash, and SwordArt died "mysteriously". Basically 1:1. Probably nothing to do with that spot in toplane and just a coincidence, but huh. It obviously just didn't update the auto's target visually in reality.
With those Lp gains they need to maintain a 3W to 1L winrate for 200 game to get out of Iron 4 they need to maintain that for 800 games to get out of Iron. Lp gains broke
Let me elaborate on just how hardstuck this player is. With a 3W to 1L WR they need a 75%WR in order to climb. Statistically 40% of games you play you win out of your controll 40% of games you loose out of your controll and 20% of games are in your controll. Even if this player wins 100% of the 20% of games they controll they only reach a WR of 60% so statistically speaking its impossible for them to climb. Even at a 75% WR if they win 3 out of 4 games they only make 2LP per rotation. Which means it will take over 800 games to get out of Iron elo. Now lets talk about the skill differential they are dealing with. For this im gonna sepereate ranks into 3 elo's low elo (iron, bronze, and silver) medium elo (gold, plat, and diamond) and high elo (master, grand master, and challenger). This player is playing against people in bronze and silver and ild argure the skill differential in low elo is greater than the skill differential in high elo because of the mass of players. Imagine being gold 4 and having to acheive a 75% WR against plat and diamond players consitantly for 800+ games. Most likely thats not gonna happen. Thats why this guy is mega hard stuck
I remember when I started playing in 2013, in 2014 I started ranking with my Garen botlane (I didn't knew you had to go ADCs in bot) I was genuinely stuck in bronce 5 Now (and 2019) I am diamond haha
Thing, the lower your rank is the less impact you can have on a game even if you're better than everyone else in the lobby. Like it's not that easy to climb out of Bronze if you're Gold, because everything is so volatile and you're not good enough to crush everyone.
You know what? If Pants watches one of my Ahri games or any one of my games and calls out my mistakes and calls me dumb I'll take it cause he's a Challenger. But if a Mundo who's in Bronze 1 tells me I'm dumb for using a blast cone to get away from targets who are coming towards me, a 400 health Ryze, I won't listen.
Well have you tried playing with someone newbie? There many people who aren't invested/didn't played enough or just don't care. It's not that hard to stay in iron if you don't have clue about basics of the game and LoL (or mobas overall) aren't that easy to get into. But at the same time there are people who genuinly seems brain damaged or something. Like ones who are stuck in iron/bronze with millions of masteries on one champ.
@@N4chtigall well there is another point a lot of people missing. Imagine have 1M points katarina but you are bronze 3. Imagine there is chance that you simply dont play ranked
@@oswaldo0515 For really low elo players, merely getting the cs is difficult. The concept of a contested cs stops mattering if you cant get it uncontested.
Pants, why aren't adressing the real thing here ? That Zoe Player has some major problems and that's why he is hardstuck. First of all are the Q mechanics in this gameplay absolute trash ! He is is constanstly wasting short range Q's and when he tries to hit an E the Q is on cooldown... don't do that... wait for cooldowns. Zoe has only one real "combo" and thats E into Q.... wtf... it doesn't get any simpler. Second of all is his CS bad... like... really bad. You can work on that and improve. You don't need to be Chovy or Faker, but at least 5 CS/min is possible for every player, no matter what champion or lane. Third of all is the bad decision making we watched in the process. For example as he flashed away from Master Yi into the Baron Pit. Almost escaped a certain doom and what to do next ? A) Go back to base B) Go back to lane/turret C) Go to Teammates D) Go back in the jungle and search Master Yi with E in any random bush, then get caught and finally die. Pants this player looks up to you and is desperate. He wants your advice, but you are not given any. Come on, Bro... say him what you saw and tell him about it. Be honest, he needs and wants some critic.
Dude i have a friend, he is bronze 2 and he knows nothing about the game. He never leaves his lane, he never uses wards, he dont know how to activate items. Like compared to him she seems rly okay. She kinda knew the basics. She deserves bronze for sure .
I was looking for this comment... For real why isn t anyone stating the obvious? He fed zed like crazy. What does he decide to do? Exactly. Feed him more. Guys if you die to the same guy 5 times.. just run away from him. You won't magically win against a 20/0 guys while you are 0/8. Most of his decision make 0 sense. The mechanical skill would be the least problem tbh. I played more cs than lol and this applies there too. If you know where to keep your crosshair all you have to do is click. No need to do an 180 flick on his head. The problem with this game is that it doesn't really encourage players to go full premade since most people play solo/duo and forget flex exists(at least when i used to play). This makes the game much harder than it should be.
I do not really mind if he plays Zoe, but if it's ranked he should be choosing a champ that is suited for him (Annie being a good pick for ranked). He also indeed, has to work on his CS, it isn't wrong to miss 1-2 cs but how many CS this Zoe is losing? It's pretty bad. Lots of pro players go into the practice tool, and it would benefit the Zoe if he used it to his advantage to practice cs but also hitting certain combos. And, he should stick to Annie maybe for ranked.
@@saccharine1452 You are way to harsh. It's fking Iron 4. Even in silver i haver dudes with like 80 cs after 20 min. He looks totally ok. He dont deserve Iron at all.
It hurts my eyes so much when he wasn't taking advantage of zoe's empowered aa passive, especially when using Q you can proc it even twice. He didn't even do 1 aa before or after Q, not even on minions. During laning phase her aa passive is like her main source of damage and he just constantly tried to hit that zed with Q nothing else.
if the zoe sees this comment, you have the hard knowledge, what you need is to react better and maybe practice a bit more zoe, feels like you miss in the easy things, imo, if you just get better at this you will climb fast,
i won't lie it takes special kind of talent to get below silver .. i took 3 years break from game and i was doing fine in mid silver first week before i relearned the game and started climbing again ..... fact is even if i wanted to it felt impossible to drop below silver i would have to troll really hard while barely remembering how the game works and losing all my mechanics
About the stopwatch buy VS AP buy, Would it be correct to buy it if you're like 2 kills behind ? I understand that when you're 0/4 you start not being worth much gold so you might as well get damage in order to farm well, push if the opponent roams, and potentially get a kill or assist in a grouped fight. But Like, what if you're 0/2 and you have no faith in killing your opponent 1v1, but want to avoid feeding more ? It's still time to block the snowballing, right ?
If you're against a Zed/ad and you feel like you need the early stopwatch, maybe just get the rune. Otherwise get armguard first. Its nerfed, but it still gives you damage and some armor to maybe survive the oneshot.
One simple answer. Play another champ thats way more easy. Like Annie, Diana, Veigar, Katarina... Or swap to toplane and play Jax, Tryndamere, Master Yi, Wukong, Garen. They are hard to master but even with low skill they can bring you victory.
I think everybody should start at top or supp because those are the easiest matchups for learning basics. As support you are constantly poking and as top you are 1v1 and main point is farming. Mid is is my opinion harder because you have wider champ celect form mages, Assassins, or bruisers and you can find there also adc. Starting with champs like garen is the easyest way to learn basics. They are strong and require less practise
@@branohoblak5937 support I agree with, but top, can have huge problems, for instance against certain matchups, dying once is losing your lane, against Darius/illaoi etc. after that there isn't any coming back, I personally think support is the best for beginners
@@branohoblak5937 as a top main, it's not the place to learn the game. Toplane is incredibly tilting at times, and there are a lot of factors you just don't have control over. It's the best place to learn wave control, but it's also the lane where it's a royal pain to come back from even a slight lead. Missing one or two waves in top can easily make your life hell for the next 15 minutes.
@@jasonchangdalekrule I know. I am topmain as well but i started with top. I know negative and positive points on top and i also know that too is really frustrating lane
F me, i ain't iron 4, but the feeling of "being hardstuck with no obvios reason" is something i know. Not sure if i would be able to improve if my skils sudenly fell to Iron 4.
These players get me demote back to bronze every fucking time and when I report them and ask Riot to fix the match making system. Because I can go on a 5 win streak and the next day I get 6 games streak full of fucking troll players that let the enemy get double scuttles bof isn't even a fucking lane 75% of the time and they fucking tilt me so I fucking bother trying to win because when I /ff because the game is CLEARLY over 20 to 5 they all say no and wast my fucking time while I could have been in a other game.
I am hard stuck bronze but i do my studying and limit testing on my champs so that i don't have to think about what to do next. This zoe's brain is clearly on stuck on AOL dial-up
well easiest way to get out of bronze: take your favorite champ, and practice the crap out of their mechanics. Watch a high elo vod, and when you see a cool thing you want to be able to do, go into practice tool and reproduce it with target dummies. Also, the "so that i don't have to think about what to do next" is a red flag. You should always be thinking about what to do next; going on autopilot is the quickest way to stop improving.
@@jasonchangdalekrule believe it or not my mains i do watch high elo games of them n practice the combos. I watch the button presses back in slow mo. Literally most of my games that i lose i will go help my teams lanes get ahead n they will find a way to throw. I'd say about 80% of my games i get my cs up to 6-7 per min with a positive kda. One that comes to mind i got a fiora like 3 early kills n even was holding my mid down without jg help. fiora decides to perma roam thinking she strong n proceeded to feed the enemy and not go back to lane giving up the whole thing to them. no words could explain the ire i was in after that game
Can't play this champ plus disrespects Zed hard af for some reason. I think he needs to play a less mechanically intensive champion to begin with, he's trying to trade despite being trash at her which seems to overload him so he can't focus on anything else while he does it and so he doesn't realize he's in Zed's kill distance and dies constantly. Veigar would be better for him I think.
Not really delusional he knows hes trying to win the game and not int and he also knows that hes either not built to play the game or just lack the necessary skills or team to rank up. And biggest reason hes not delusional hes not blaming anyone for being hardstuck. Just like me when I got stuck on diamond back on 2018
I don't understand why the title of this video and the what the coach is saying is so awful to the Zoe. She asked for help, that's all she did, so yes, she may need improvement but that doesn't mean she should be treated like garbage.
low elo players need to be told to focus on mechanics looking and map and csing, macro only matters in high level of play their is no point in trying to freeze when your stuck in silver
No no no no, he does some things at a higher level than iron but other things at an iron 4 zero lp level. When you put it all together it equates to iron. He's iron. If someone boosts to bronze, will probably loose every game back to iron. Is what it is, if you cannot perform you won't climb
@@TLA_memes In the time it takes to get 140K mastery on a single champion though, which is their main, they should definitely have acquired the BE to upgrade. The gameplay just shows this player is overall really bad at the champion.
I play in lower ELO, Iron/bronze. I know I'm bad, and I make shitty calls whitch ends in me dying alot. Or not enough plays whitch makes me a non factor in the game. But, what I'm amazed by, is what this person is saying. I've seen alot of player with millions of points in their respective champions and yet, here they are, in Iron/bronze. Last night I has a Nami on the other team with 6.6milion, like holly shit what?! 6.6?! Highest I've ever seen. I've seen a Zyra with 3.1mil a Miss Fortune with 3.6mil. How do you rack up that many points and are yet to carry the game to victory? (I won all 3 games with those opponents)
staying in iron iv is a talent honestly
Honestly just getting there is a talent
yes he gott best talent hahaha🤣🤣
I'm very talented
Even my boi kadeem got out of Iron 4.
1:02 this comment got me
Iron 4 players are just built different. The game level is out of the world that even pants cant comprehend
They aim invisible targets that pros can't see
i legitimately believe you must be physically and/or mentally disabled to be stuck in iron4
LS walks into the room: Looks around just says nothing leaves a piece of paper on the table
Zoe picks it up reads and it says PLAY ANNIE.
Even Annie wouldn't help this man...
@@dejojoo it would,u can miss targeted abilities,it would help his cs too
@@stavrospapaspyropoulos6942 That is what I am saying, even a champion like Annie wouldn't matter when the guy is hardstuck in NA bronze for years.
and then you climb some divisions and are always forced to play this easy mechanics champs...
if you wanna get some quick lp yeah i agree...but in the long run you dont get much with always playing easy champs
@@xing2937 well easy champ help you focus on learning the fundamental without getting slammed all the time you can still learn the champ mechanic/match up later
but if the person have no idea what they're doing or even worse what they wanna do it's not gonna matter what champ you're playing it's like they're playing a different game entirely.
Guys this is a different game. He faced Katarina on his first video. It’s not a reupload
exactly
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Ok ty i wondered xD
@Denis Svarc isto hahah
im ur 200th like
Pick a champ that doesn't take a level of skill you clearly don't possess.
Fax
nah you pack a champ that you think looks cool, as a beginner my champs were vel'koz and aurelion sol and I ended up diamond promos when i decided to take ranked seriously
@@jokesonyoubuddy2526 ya pick a hat u. Like!!!!!@@
just play fucking annie bro there is no way you can perform worse on him than Zoe, its a burst mage with some CC but its point and click. His other mid champs are Fizz and Irelia! Iron IV Irelia mechanics why is he doing this to himself?
When in doubt, play Garen. You basically can't lose if you know how to press Q and E in Iron
I'm telling you, you need to help this person and make it into a video. Then like the last I said you should just make a series where you help people like this Zoe.
a coaching bronze series would be amazing and then do a follow up like a month or so down the road and see how they progressed.
He's not exploiting her range, costing his q damage, while hovering inside zeds.
@@lewismc9004 they do lmao
@@lewismc9004 maybe I should zoe more. Didn't know that.
@@lewismc9004 Uhhh...yes they do...they do it from silver/gold
@@lewismc9004 "aldmeria" euw opgg check it before you start talking out your ass again, and continue making uneducated comments.
@@lewismc9004 literally ever role in every rank ppl abuse range, the higher the elo the worse it is, you cant die to a champ that cant hit you
it feels like she uses locked screen because she misses enemys getting hit by her bubble all the time when they are out of locked screen range.
...the locked screen isn't the reason one gets in Iron IV.
Edit: After watching the entire video I don't think they play on a locked screen at all. The movements. The targets they focus on. It's not center focused.
Why the fuck do people use locked screen? It hurts my brain. Why is that even a fucking option?????? Riot are full of shit.
@@voilvelev6775
If you are upset with LoL locked screen just go to Dota that forces unlocked screen.
In LoL you really just control one character. Seeing what's happening outside your characters vision isn't really needed for the most part. If it is, you can just click directly on the mini map to look and then when you let go you snap back to your character. For the few abilities that you actually need to aim outside the screen, you just need to unlock it for that and then relock it.
I honestly hate when a teammate dies because they were watching a fight when they should have been paying attention to the only character they could actually control.
@@voilvelev6775 why not like its useful for melee champs and stuff
@@znozhacks6892 Because it means you cant see shit thats happening like a meter away from you? And you need to have awarness of the entire map?
thumbnail: zoe saying "im not iron 4 i swear!" first sentence in this video: (this zoe) im genuinely hardstuck in iron 4..
there is so many like this zoe the problem is they follow online guides blindly without really understanding the game sometimes i see that 1 adc that refuse to hit the tank in a team fight when the enemy team shred his tank and types in chat why go for the tank when his team don't have any fed divers, they some stuff they saw online but they don't really know when it's viable, it's always there team fault how can it be there's they have challenger level game knowledge
my opinion is that videos truly dont help what so ever, you can watch every single guide out there but you WILL NOT improve if you arent going to dedicate the hours and thousands of games to learn, i went from bronze just watching videos wondering why none were helping even when i felt i was fully applying what id learned until i started watching my own games and analyzing them after that i quickly climbed to plat and now im working on polishing my mechanical skills and my map/objective awareness so i can climb even higher
@@surr3ald3sign You can learn a lot from watching videos, but if you don't know how or when to use the information it's useless.
@@surr3ald3sign agreed, I told my friend who’s starting right now you can watch some vids to understand how the champs work and such but don’t really expect to learn anything about team fighting, laning etc because your not going to applying challenger level micro and macro to your games, you just have to learn through playing and experience in your own elo
This person just needs to play a less mechanically intense champ. I know im not great, so I dont play champs that require huge mechanical prowess, and have plenty more fun that way
Right, play champions that are easy mechanically and master the basics of the game
@Khal Asangan nah lux and ahri have way too many skill shots to be able to focus on basic
@Khal Asangan yea but with the way he played in this game I think even those champs will be too difficult to play
Malphite
i mained zed mid when i first started taking the game seriously... it was mistake 😂 now i play nasus top and just cock slap ppl with a 1k stack q out of nowhere and they shit themselves bc they thought i lost lane 😂
When everyone's playing Poker, this Zoe is playing Yugioh
6:09, rengar cleansed teemo’s blind with his ferocity W
yeah, that was pretty sick
sometimes i feel bad about myself in general then i see this and feel better
140k mastery points and probably a lot of blue essence hoping that one day she will achieve an S
u can get S on any champ without knowing how to play them.
@@voilvelev6775 thats not true xD
@@znozhacks6892 Yes it is. I have dozens of lvl 6 tokens on champions that I suck with.
I got an S with Diana like the second time I played her , which was sad since I need mastery 5 for the token
@@sjie1874 Lol I literally got S+ on my 3rd game with Jarvan :D Given, I was playing super nasty cheese build (Lethal Tempo, max E), but still, it was ridiculous :D
You should try it, its super dumb. You just right click them to death (unless you get chain cc-ed :D )
170k point
"Bro my m4 zoe can hit my q and e better than you"
I've never played Zoe and im prty sure I would do way better
Being a Zoe main, it's hard to watch these videos
@@BathgateToushiru I’ve never played Zoe and I think I could coach someone to do better
@@brandonp810 You should press E when he is in front of you = +500 lp
i can hit my e better than him with my feet
Exactly why I main rammus. Hard to miss a skill shot when you don't have any.
For now 😂
The new Rammus ult tho, you can miss that lol
You know at least this guy isn't blaming their teammates. Better than most iron 4.
Zoe: HoW aRe ThEy KiLlInG mE
Can’t CS, can’t hit a skill shot, can’t dodge a skill shot. Not hard to understand why they’re iron 4.
that was legitness
She is on locked camera on zoe. You can tell because all of her skills miss by zoe’s travel distance.
The Zoe should watch pekinwoof and they instantly get better.
95% of people in comments could 20-0 this zoe
Haha fr
I am prob the 5% xD
100%
If she plays more aggressive sure
yep. I'd pick qiyana and while I'm dashing at her she wouldn't use bubble
I love how he always walk to the melee range of zed than walking away as a range champ 😂
if she is willing to overlook her mistakes, u can coach the player and guide him
to rank up
she didn't miss the q on the zed, she aimed to the future.
That morgana was flaming. You're welcome 😂
and that is probably why he will never get out of iron4
You should make this channel just reviewing iron players it’s hilarious
dude lots of his vids are unlisted and relisted so its basically an upload scroll down on his channel close to the bottom to find the unlisted videos
Its not a reupload. He is reviewing another game. In the first game she played against kata not zed
@@DailyFacts2016 it isn't but I already saw this in his channel at the bottom where he puts his unlisted videos you can find them there. It not a reupload its just a re-listed video
How the fuck did he get two tokens on zoe playing like this... Its so absurd
The reason of players become "idle" because they are sometimes checking other lanes. Im actually doing it most of the time 😂😂😂
I have been playing league for less than a year so I’m very bad still but Zoey’s CSing against a melee matchup that’s so easy to bully and deny cs and and and... it just made me cry okay?
It's out of this world. The Zoe knows what to do but she doesn't know how to do it. She could try Lux for a kickstarter (She has simpler kit than Zoe and can snowball if all the abilities landed) because Zoe's not going to help her to climb up at this point.
2:35 - the exact same spectator glitch happened in a TSM game this year where minion autos disappeared in the EXACT same place in toplane after a flash, and SwordArt died "mysteriously". Basically 1:1. Probably nothing to do with that spot in toplane and just a coincidence, but huh. It obviously just didn't update the auto's target visually in reality.
With those Lp gains they need to maintain a 3W to 1L winrate for 200 game to get out of Iron 4 they need to maintain that for 800 games to get out of Iron. Lp gains broke
Let me elaborate on just how hardstuck this player is. With a 3W to 1L WR they need a 75%WR in order to climb. Statistically 40% of games you play you win out of your controll 40% of games you loose out of your controll and 20% of games are in your controll. Even if this player wins 100% of the 20% of games they controll they only reach a WR of 60% so statistically speaking its impossible for them to climb. Even at a 75% WR if they win 3 out of 4 games they only make 2LP per rotation. Which means it will take over 800 games to get out of Iron elo. Now lets talk about the skill differential they are dealing with. For this im gonna sepereate ranks into 3 elo's low elo (iron, bronze, and silver) medium elo (gold, plat, and diamond) and high elo (master, grand master, and challenger). This player is playing against people in bronze and silver and ild argure the skill differential in low elo is greater than the skill differential in high elo because of the mass of players. Imagine being gold 4 and having to acheive a 75% WR against plat and diamond players consitantly for 800+ games. Most likely thats not gonna happen. Thats why this guy is mega hard stuck
140k points on Zoe...
Doesn't understand her passive...
I remember when I started playing in 2013, in 2014 I started ranking with my Garen botlane (I didn't knew you had to go ADCs in bot) I was genuinely stuck in bronce 5
Now (and 2019) I am diamond haha
6:15 He used w to take of the blind from teemo (rengar) basically a cleanse
Thing, the lower your rank is the less impact you can have on a game even if you're better than everyone else in the lobby. Like it's not that easy to climb out of Bronze if you're Gold, because everything is so volatile and you're not good enough to crush everyone.
She just doesn't understand how the game or her champion works.
These videos are really intersting keep uploading more
You know what? If Pants watches one of my Ahri games or any one of my games and calls out my mistakes and calls me dumb I'll take it cause he's a Challenger.
But if a Mundo who's in Bronze 1 tells me I'm dumb for using a blast cone to get away from targets who are coming towards me, a 400 health Ryze, I won't listen.
Someone tell him to turn off his auto attack and cast Q immediately after landing E, if he does that he’ll get a little better
i thought i was bad but here we are xd
I'm iron 4 but I cannot for the life of me draw out the willpower to play solo queue for more then 10 games a season lol.
Why?
This games look so funny I wish I had an iron account to play that
@@xXHuanSohnXx I'm. A top laner it becomes either i split or we loose almost every game not fun at all.
I'm at 2:22 and I can already tell this player has 0 machanics. Without bare minimum machanics ur going to go nowhere.
How people are in iron genuinely shock me
Well have you tried playing with someone newbie? There many people who aren't invested/didn't played enough or just don't care. It's not that hard to stay in iron if you don't have clue about basics of the game and LoL (or mobas overall) aren't that easy to get into. But at the same time there are people who genuinly seems brain damaged or something. Like ones who are stuck in iron/bronze with millions of masteries on one champ.
@@N4chtigall well there is another point a lot of people missing. Imagine have 1M points katarina but you are bronze 3. Imagine there is chance that you simply dont play ranked
you have to lose like 7/10 of your placements to place in iron in the first place and thats if you were unranked last season
@@N4chtigall lol ever heared of elo hell? lose 10 games and ur fked up lmfao cuz u will start losing more lp than u earn
@@ronnical2489 so you're saying that 2 ppl leave and then they auto ff and even u do no its ff'ed even tho u were 23/3
Follow up video, coach the Zoe
I wonder if this person has ever tried to farm waves in practice tool
Kinda pointless considering you have to deal with harass and move
@@oswaldo0515 if you can’t even perform with yourself, the hell you gonna do when there is another person
@@oswaldo0515 but this iron Zed's gameplay includes no actual harass, he's not moving closer to him proactively, but Zoe is still missing CS
@@oswaldo0515 For really low elo players, merely getting the cs is difficult. The concept of a contested cs stops mattering if you cant get it uncontested.
@@shadowedblight1673 why is practicing cs important you have no game knowledge. Trust me you can win in iron without cs
Pants, why aren't adressing the real thing here ? That Zoe Player has some major problems and that's why he is hardstuck. First of all are the Q mechanics in this gameplay absolute trash ! He is is constanstly wasting short range Q's and when he tries to hit an E the Q is on cooldown... don't do that... wait for cooldowns. Zoe has only one real "combo" and thats E into Q.... wtf... it doesn't get any simpler. Second of all is his CS bad... like... really bad. You can work on that and improve. You don't need to be Chovy or Faker, but at least 5 CS/min is possible for every player, no matter what champion or lane. Third of all is the bad decision making we watched in the process. For example as he flashed away from Master Yi into the Baron Pit. Almost escaped a certain doom and what to do next ? A) Go back to base B) Go back to lane/turret C) Go to Teammates D) Go back in the jungle and search Master Yi with E in any random bush, then get caught and finally die.
Pants this player looks up to you and is desperate. He wants your advice, but you are not given any. Come on, Bro... say him what you saw and tell him about it. Be honest, he needs and wants some critic.
Yea literally the dude asked for help so might as well be honest and help the guy
Dude i have a friend, he is bronze 2 and he knows nothing about the game. He never leaves his lane, he never uses wards, he dont know how to activate items. Like compared to him she seems rly okay. She kinda knew the basics. She deserves bronze for sure .
I was looking for this comment... For real why isn t anyone stating the obvious?
He fed zed like crazy. What does he decide to do? Exactly. Feed him more. Guys if you die to the same guy 5 times.. just run away from him. You won't magically win against a 20/0 guys while you are 0/8. Most of his decision make 0 sense. The mechanical skill would be the least problem tbh.
I played more cs than lol and this applies there too. If you know where to keep your crosshair all you have to do is click. No need to do an 180 flick on his head.
The problem with this game is that it doesn't really encourage players to go full premade since most people play solo/duo and forget flex exists(at least when i used to play). This makes the game much harder than it should be.
I do not really mind if he plays Zoe, but if it's ranked he should be choosing a champ that is suited for him (Annie being a good pick for ranked). He also indeed, has to work on his CS, it isn't wrong to miss 1-2 cs but how many CS this Zoe is losing? It's pretty bad. Lots of pro players go into the practice tool, and it would benefit the Zoe if he used it to his advantage to practice cs but also hitting certain combos. And, he should stick to Annie maybe for ranked.
@@saccharine1452 You are way to harsh. It's fking Iron 4. Even in silver i haver dudes with like 80 cs after 20 min. He looks totally ok. He dont deserve Iron at all.
It hurts my eyes so much when he wasn't taking advantage of zoe's empowered aa passive, especially when using Q you can proc it even twice. He didn't even do 1 aa before or after Q, not even on minions. During laning phase her aa passive is like her main source of damage and he just constantly tried to hit that zed with Q nothing else.
Re upload?
Yeah i think
Different game
if the zoe sees this comment, you have the hard knowledge, what you need is to react better and maybe practice a bit more zoe, feels like you miss in the easy things, imo, if you just get better at this you will climb fast,
climb fast to iron 3 and stop there
1:02 This guy actually caught in 4k
reupload ???
140k mastery, misses every CS and skill shot
Oh? Isn't this a video already? reupload?
reupload?
2:30 cho'gath legit beginner apparently, i know, the damage wouldn't be much because the blind, but the spikes can still damage
NO HELL NO HE DESERVE IRON 16 NOT ONLY FOUR
lol that dude was the worst one on his team XD
so i went to go look back at the persons rank and they are back in iron4 with 0 lp at the end of this video it said she was iron3
having pants commentate makes this replay 101% more hilarious LMAO
Day 10 of asking 24 hour heimerdinger
pls no, its not funny to watch and play
no
8:54 I wept laughing. WTF Was that Q?
man she belongs in iron 4
knowing that this is a potential teammate makes me even more not wanna play rank
It’s called waiting for the next season
wait for a year?
rather making a new account
I think at that point you should just uninstall the game
i won't lie it takes special kind of talent to get below silver .. i took 3 years break from game and i was doing fine in mid silver first week before i relearned the game and started climbing again ..... fact is even if i wanted to it felt impossible to drop below silver i would have to troll really hard while barely remembering how the game works and losing all my mechanics
Let them know they are Iron 4 because there isn't an iron 5
He is solid iron, like iron 2 maybe, but no more
How in the cancerous 200 years am I playing better than this guy even tho I started 7 months ago
About the stopwatch buy VS AP buy,
Would it be correct to buy it if you're like 2 kills behind ?
I understand that when you're 0/4 you start not being worth much gold so you might as well get damage in order to farm well, push if the opponent roams, and potentially get a kill or assist in a grouped fight.
But Like, what if you're 0/2 and you have no faith in killing your opponent 1v1, but want to avoid feeding more ? It's still time to block the snowballing, right ?
If you're against a Zed/ad and you feel like you need the early stopwatch, maybe just get the rune. Otherwise get armguard first. Its nerfed, but it still gives you damage and some armor to maybe survive the oneshot.
im bronze 2 but i really dont play like that .that was like burning my eyes
Desilucional? Also ain’t this a vid already
bro u time traveler or what?
comment date..1 week....uploaded 1 hr ago....i knew i smoked too much.
Wtf bro how? 1 week ago ????????
It was a different game, same person I think
Different Game 1st one was vs Katarina
this zoey rly dont belont in iron 4...riot should bringt back iron 5 for her...
because people are stuck in iron and bronze for so long, they are actually becoming stronger than higher ranks
One simple answer. Play another champ thats way more easy. Like Annie, Diana, Veigar, Katarina... Or swap to toplane and play Jax, Tryndamere, Master Yi, Wukong, Garen. They are hard to master but even with low skill they can bring you victory.
Me: what I'm watching
My brain: GTFO
see now why i said the previous iron 4 players that you inspected were the best iron 4 players that you'll ever see
Only by playing and easier character, let say Garen, he insta leave Iron 4...
I think everybody should start at top or supp because those are the easiest matchups for learning basics. As support you are constantly poking and as top you are 1v1 and main point is farming. Mid is is my opinion harder because you have wider champ celect form mages, Assassins, or bruisers and you can find there also adc. Starting with champs like garen is the easyest way to learn basics. They are strong and require less practise
@@branohoblak5937 support I agree with, but top, can have huge problems, for instance against certain matchups, dying once is losing your lane, against Darius/illaoi etc. after that there isn't any coming back, I personally think support is the best for beginners
@@willkyles9156 as i said it is good for learning how to finish minions. You are nos squishi like adc so thats why
@@branohoblak5937 as a top main, it's not the place to learn the game. Toplane is incredibly tilting at times, and there are a lot of factors you just don't have control over. It's the best place to learn wave control, but it's also the lane where it's a royal pain to come back from even a slight lead. Missing one or two waves in top can easily make your life hell for the next 15 minutes.
@@jasonchangdalekrule I know. I am topmain as well but i started with top. I know negative and positive points on top and i also know that too is really frustrating lane
This video hurt so mcuh to watch. no wonder they are in iron 4
A re-upload?
F me, i ain't iron 4, but the feeling of "being hardstuck with no obvios reason" is something i know. Not sure if i would be able to improve if my skils sudenly fell to Iron 4.
These players get me demote back to bronze every fucking time and when I report them and ask Riot to fix the match making system. Because I can go on a 5 win streak and the next day I get 6 games streak full of fucking troll players that let the enemy get double scuttles bof isn't even a fucking lane 75% of the time and they fucking tilt me so I fucking bother trying to win because when I /ff because the game is CLEARLY over 20 to 5 they all say no and wast my fucking time while I could have been in a other game.
You should play with him and get him to bronze at least... would make a funny video for sure
thats called boosting
“This zed is definitely a smurf” headass
I am hard stuck bronze but i do my studying and limit testing on my champs so that i don't have to think about what to do next. This zoe's brain is clearly on stuck on AOL dial-up
well easiest way to get out of bronze: take your favorite champ, and practice the crap out of their mechanics. Watch a high elo vod, and when you see a cool thing you want to be able to do, go into practice tool and reproduce it with target dummies.
Also, the "so that i don't have to think about what to do next" is a red flag. You should always be thinking about what to do next; going on autopilot is the quickest way to stop improving.
@@jasonchangdalekrule believe it or not my mains i do watch high elo games of them n practice the combos. I watch the button presses back in slow mo. Literally most of my games that i lose i will go help my teams lanes get ahead n they will find a way to throw. I'd say about 80% of my games i get my cs up to 6-7 per min with a positive kda. One that comes to mind i got a fiora like 3 early kills n even was holding my mid down without jg help. fiora decides to perma roam thinking she strong n proceeded to feed the enemy and not go back to lane giving up the whole thing to them. no words could explain the ire i was in after that game
Can't play this champ plus disrespects Zed hard af for some reason. I think he needs to play a less mechanically intensive champion to begin with, he's trying to trade despite being trash at her which seems to overload him so he can't focus on anything else while he does it and so he doesn't realize he's in Zed's kill distance and dies constantly. Veigar would be better for him I think.
Not really delusional he knows hes trying to win the game and not int and he also knows that hes either not built to play the game or just lack the necessary skills or team to rank up. And biggest reason hes not delusional hes not blaming anyone for being hardstuck. Just like me when I got stuck on diamond back on 2018
10:32 you EXACTLY know it yourself pants, he just missed it xD
I don't understand why the title of this video and the what the coach is saying is so awful to the Zoe. She asked for help, that's all she did, so yes, she may need improvement but that doesn't mean she should be treated like garbage.
low elo players need to be told to focus on mechanics looking and map and csing, macro only matters in high level of play their is no point in trying to freeze when your stuck in silver
No no no no, he does some things at a higher level than iron but other things at an iron 4 zero lp level. When you put it all together it equates to iron. He's iron. If someone boosts to bronze, will probably loose every game back to iron. Is what it is, if you cannot perform you won't climb
So this player has 140k mastery points on Zoe and is only mastery level 6. That should tell you everything.
tbh i got a lot of level 7 tokens but no blue esssence or champ shards to upgrade em. Nonetheless i think zoe doesn't have all the tokens tbh.
@@TLA_memes In the time it takes to get 140K mastery on a single champion though, which is their main, they should definitely have acquired the BE to upgrade. The gameplay just shows this player is overall really bad at the champion.
I have a lot of champions with over 300k points and have not yet upgraded any of them to mastery level 7.
@@michaelbitzer7295 I don't have a single champ over 40k mastery that isn't mastery 7
@@taylorbates4742 and that makes you a better player than someone that has not upgraded to lv7?
5:59 biggest face palm
I play in lower ELO, Iron/bronze. I know I'm bad, and I make shitty calls whitch ends in me dying alot. Or not enough plays whitch makes me a non factor in the game.
But, what I'm amazed by, is what this person is saying. I've seen alot of player with millions of points in their respective champions and yet, here they are, in Iron/bronze. Last night I has a Nami on the other team with 6.6milion, like holly shit what?! 6.6?! Highest I've ever seen. I've seen a Zyra with 3.1mil a Miss Fortune with 3.6mil. How do you rack up that many points and are yet to carry the game to victory? (I won all 3 games with those opponents)