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According to Car magazine in the period, Aston had discovered through wind tunnel testing that little to no air was able to get through the grill at speeds above something like 120-130 mph, so they blocked it off in order to give it a higher top speed.
I remember reading the same thing except in Performance Car, I think. Blocking it off ended up ramming more air into the vents below and improving performance
I remember that explanation from the time. It's big and heavy, easy to ground a very expensive exhaust, a bit of a fast lorry to drive (saw an indicated 165, probably a real 150) and full of trim parts I recognised off my Dolomite Sprint. Great car though, the epitome of the era.
They also blocked off the top vent too for the same reasons even though the pic he showed was an earlier example with the hood scoop still open. The intake was fed through a plenum, so no reason to have that scoop there for intake reasons and the engine definitely wasn't venting heat in that direction either.
I remember reading an article on the One-77 where Marek Reichman described the design as having two interlocking rings, one vertical (the front of the car) and one horizontal (the back). It was a fascinating read, and it explained those rear wheel arches perfectly.
For me the vantage from the early 2000s. Gosh, that design is just so perfect. There was the vanquish, the db9, even the virage and such that were similar, but the vantage had the most gorgeous proportions from every angle
The One-77 was always my absolute favorite car during childhood and I feel very much validated by someone like you listing it as one of their top three designs.
Very cool. As an honorable mention, I would have included the previous generation Vantage. Doesn’t matter that it’s a previous generation car, I think it looks much better than the current one. Just beautiful.
As always, what a beautiful video Frank, as a young 20 year old materials engineering undergraduate, your perspective on design and aesthetic surely will impact my career in some way.
My favorite element with the One-77 is the continuation from the side vents at the front to the sides. It gives this impression that the line just cuts through the wheel arch, almost separating the front wheels from the body of the car. It’s reminiscent of older cars from the thirties, with those separated wheel arches. I absolutely love the clever choice to not only enlarge the side vent to overtake the front fenders, but in how this adjustment redefines how you can separate the wheels without making a completely separate fender.
Yes, you are absolurely right. So many times have I admired this car from design perspective and just now did I discover that the front fenders vents are so perfectly aligned with the side vents in one line
I love the one-77 too. One funny thing about it though - the way the hip angle begins at the door shut line makes it seam like the hips are painted a brighter colour then the reast of the body work.
I think that the One-77 genuinely has the most beautiful rear end of any car ever. The tail light is perfection and the simplicity of lines around the licence plate & diffuser is just gorgeous. I also love the way the exhausts are positioned between the fins of the diffuser.
V8 Vantage for me. I remember one driving up behind me as I was walking past Earl’s Court, London, one day. I literally thought it was approaching thunder and turned around to look, the guy driving it noticed and planted his foot. The sound of this beast roaring past will always stay with me. I think Performance Car called it The Beast In The Saville Row Suit. A truly great looking and sounding car.
My favorite is the 2009 Era V8 Vantage. I loved it so much, I bought one. The car is riddled with problems and has been annoying at times but a few years of fixing it and I'm currently enjoying it. I don't anticipate selling it anytime soon purely because of the style. It's basically a fancy Ford / Volvo.
I belive the stpry behind closed grill of V8 Vantage must have something to do with aerodynamics. My guess is that they wanted to achieve better top speed, but that's just my guess. For my a DB9 is the obvious choice for the best of them all in terms of design. It is such a perfect blend of pure design and sporty elegance. I cannot belive it is more that 15 years old at this point. Keep the great work Mr. Frank, love watching Your videos
Great video, as always! Love the details you're providing on each car and element! I'm trying to understand the V8 Vantage design: - maybe they removed the intake scoop of the hood because they managed to find a better intake location (e.g. side scoops? unusual choice for a V engine). Assuming that Aston Martin was close to go bankrupt, maybe a more detailled hood was too expensive. However, as long as you get the closest to stoichiometric ratio (petrol/air 14.7:1) all along the engine's operating range with that max airflow induced by the intake, why bothering with another design? Of course, there's always a way to get more HP but you know how development technical specs work. - maybe they closed the grill because they didn't need to open it to cool the engine through a big radiator that needs an opened grill (e.g. Porsche 944/928 and 968 with tiny grills). Closing the grill represents a big advantage in terms of aerodynamics, greatly reducing drag I guess. Also, some engines work better at higher temperatures (e.g.: Porsche 928/944. I don't have an explanation for this). A friend of mine had a US spec Volante and it had an open grill. Now that you've put the finger on this closed-grill, they should have found a reason to open it.
I would still go for the Aston Martin DB7 Volante, yes I know its platform is that of the Jaguar XJS (a beauty as well) but to me, the DB7 - especially the Volante - captures the essence of Aston Martin on the whole.
Thanks for another educational and entertaining video. My top three designs are 1. The Rapide - the elongated chassis and unhindered front grille of the Rapide S just give a sense of majesty, elegance and purposefulness to that deaign. Love this car in skyfall silver or scintilla silver. 2. The Vanquish Gen 2 - love the rear spoiler and aide profile. I love this car in Cumberland grey or Hammerhead silver. 3. DB11 AMR - beautiful front hood with clamshell design, interesting take of the side vents and I love the rear end. I do like a bloss black roof over a China grey body with yellow callipers peaking out of gloss black asymmetric wheels.
I get so much Ford Mustang when looking at those older Vantages. The first gen DB7 with an inline-6 and manual is still one of my affordable dream cars, I love how understated it is. The Aston Martin and Zagato collaborations are always really interesting and often quite zany, definitely eye-catching!
OMG Frank, You made my day so happy! I have been waiting for this video since the channel started. AMLL is my favorite brand in the world, i love every design of every year they have ever made in their 108 year existence. I am biased toward the DB5 because of James Bond of course, and i love the DB4 too, they are basically the same but i like the look in the headlights of both, like to different outfits of the same guy. I really can't be upset by your chioces because Aston has a TON of candidates, and as always you are on point with the details, the one thing i want to people to take notice in the One-77 is the tail lights, the most astonishing (pun certainly intended) i've ever seen, covering the whole of the rear end of the car and finishing with the Aston Martin wings design carved inside the lamps... absolutely gorgeous piece of art those lights. Brilliant Frank, you did it again, keep tearing the house down!
Again, describing and creating thoughts that i would not have arrived at. Brilliant video, i am learning more lingo.. today i picked up on "The Belt", and the "Greenhouse"....
I think you nailed it about the choices of my favorite brand of cars. My choices were obviously the DB5 (because 007), the V8 Vantage/DBS/DB9 (but especially the Vantage. I love the V12 Vantage, but that is arguably the worst-looking for the gills in the hood... But the sound is definitely Aston Martin) and, of course, the One-77. In that last one, I think there is no doubt it was peak Aston Martin design, I don't know how they can follow it up. The Valhalla/Valkyrie are great looking, but not jaw-dropping like the One-77.
The recently unveiled Victor is achingly good looking! And from an enthusiast perspective, can't beat a Cosworth tuned V12 driving the rear wheels and a manual transmission. Great video as usual!
How easily you sold me on the beauty of the One-77. I had never seen it before, and at first glance, the scoops beneath each headlight felt odd. But every new image/angle and explanation quickly changed my mind.
Mr Frank , you are the one who made me love car design and made me want to go learn car design, one day with determination and hard work I might be great designer like you , wonderful video
I recently did a watches and cars video where I said that my weekend car would be a birthyear (1979) Vantage Oscar India limited edition! What an absolute beast. Loved the video thanks Frank. Oh and the watch I matched it with was a birthyear Rolex Daytona 6263 "Big Red" - another absolute beast in the watch world. Imagine cruising around in that combo...ooofftt
Great video! Idea for future content: short takes on more mundane cars. Love to hear your thoughts on cars like the new S-class, Cadillac Lyric, or Lucid Air, for example.
The closed hood bulge on the second car - look at all the Chevys of the muscle car area that used Cowl Induction. The intake was routed to the low pressure area at the base of the windshield. Cool, unturbulent air was drawn in from their area.
Next to the 550/575 the '07 DBS, is the most beautiful modern Coupe out there. Followed by the V8 Vantage, V12 Vanquish and DB7. Minus the interior. The original 70s DBS is a great looker too and everything Zagato did with pretty much any Aston as well.
6:05 regarding your comments about the grille, honestly it depends. Usually race cars do have a ram-air system via a snorkel on mid engined cars (good example is your Maserati MC12 or the F1 GTR LongTail), in an front engined car, you can see this practice with the naca duct on the hood of the Viper. However, apart from that, and the cooling requirements, it’s better to keep the opening as minimal as possible to decrease drag. This is a technique that bonnevile salt racers do to their cars, they would literally cover the grilles of their cars in an effort to cheaply increase top speed by reducing drag. Of course, this presents problems with heat, but depending on the cooling system setup available, it is possible to get away with very minimal ducting.
PARALLELILELELILELELILELELILISM. 💪 I always had a soft spot for the DB7, personally. It felt like the first of a new generation of truly 'modern' yet timeless Aston designs. I'd imagine you know Ian Callum quite well, Frank?
@@FrankStephensondesign Were you both in the same department when working on the Escort Cosworth? More importantly, is he jelly that you came up with the biplane rear wing? 😂
I have a car book that read that Aston Martin engineers closed off the front grille, on the V8 Vantage for aerodynamic purposes. Also stating that not that much cooling air was being pushed through the radiator grille on that particular model.
I agree. I loved the front 3 quarters of the DB4 GTZ and I love that haunch in some colours but the rear pillar and back looks so much better on the standard GT.
Mk1 Vanquish S sits just behind the one-77 for me. A big brutal front end with big doe eyes and far more sculpted than later offerings. Ian Callum just needs to leave it alone now…
For me it would be DB6mk2, V8 Vantage (same as your pick) and DB9GT. But my dream Aston would either be the recent Victor one-off, or an '80s V8 Vantage body on a DBS Superleggera chassis/powertrain/running gear restomod!!
My 5 favorite Aston Martin designs: - DB4 Imo the most elegant one out of the DB4/DB5/DB6 bodydesignseries - DB4 GT Zagato Just perfect from every angle - DB9/Rapide* Timeless design in modern times (*showed Porsche how to turn a GT into a 4door!) - DB10 Modern AM design distilled to it's most basic form - Lagonda Taraf Again a Masterclass in how to design a timeless, elegant 4door saloon/limosine
Totally agree with the picks, and I was glad to see the one 77 make the cut. I'd add the vanquish redesign to the honorable mentions, I just think it has perfect proportions and I love the integrated spoiler.
DB3S, DB4 Zagato and One-77 would be my top three. I also think that the DB11 is severely underrated. It has incredible road presence in real life (more so than DB7 and DB9 in my opinion) and has the potential to be truly stunning if the upcoming facelift is done correctly.
I'm just curious, what you don't or might not like about the DB9 that it didn't make your list. I think you made some amazing choices but the DB9 would have been on my list for sure.
A lot of people hated it, but I really liked the look of the Victor. The DB9 is just really nostalgic for me, my grandpa had one and I really feel like it's "the" Aston Martin. I remember seeing them show off the prototype Vulcan, and I loved the look. It's really aggressive, but still subtle.
Personally prefer DB4GT to Zagato - not so often we prefer the cheaper cars ! I just find it a bit more taught in its shape, but Frank you are so right that it defined Aston for next 10 years and then gave them the basis for the return to curves with the DB7 onwards. V8 Vantage is so brutal :) Not that I. think its the best looking of the newer cars but the original Vanquish really defined the current line-up and direction, probably even more so than the 0ne-77. Was it Callums legacy (the Vanquish) or Marek's taking the brand forward (One-77) ?? Great Vid
Wow, yeah totally agree. The only thing I don't like as much about the 177's design is the sweep from down through the front headlight. It looks like the car has a hair in it's eye. A bit uncomfortable. For the rest, stunning.
I must also add, the V8 Vantage in the Living Daylights just looks so good, whenever I am visualising an 80s car in my mind if it has the "Living Daylights Factor" then it is up there with that car. So sophisticated and elegant, while brutal in its application. Am I sad it wasn't a Ur-quattro in that sequence, yes, but what we got was so good my imagination can have endless hours of fun dreaming up alternatives
I feel this would be a perfect candidate in a Mad Max type film. Like a rundown yet purposeful hot rod. Or maybe even a centerpiece in a movie like Drive.
For me, I think the original Vanquish (2001-2007) is an incredibly beautiful one with proportions just right. I also love the DB5 as that's the classic Bond car. Great video!
@Frank as always awesome video! Regarding your question how and why they closed the grill of the V8 Vantage: they modified the engine with the later Series 5 model and replaced the big carburettors with electrical fuel injection. So they didn‘t need the airflow anymore. By closing both the grill and bonnet bulge they allegedly reduced the air drag by 10% over the standard saloon.
My favorite is the 2001-2007 Vanquish. I love these lights with black borders! The early AM would be the DBR1, but I have a sweet spot for sports cars from this era. And finally, the modern one would be V12 Speedster. I don't think I have to add anything but "look at this bonnet"!
Enjoyed this Frank and was so pleased to see the Vantage and 1-77 on the list. The latter is one of the cars that has to be seen in the flesh to truly appreciate (I saw a metallic brown one at a concours event and it was jaw-dropping). I'd love to see your take on William Towns' Lagonda - a challenging design that saved the company! My top three: DB2/4 mark III, V8 Vantage Volante POW and that 1-77 in metallic brown...
Great video as always Frank! Your approach to car designs helped me with finding the true beauty of cars and a few years back I thought the more aggresive a vehicle is, the better. Turns out I now don't quite like cars I used to love a couple years back (in terms of their designs, they are obviously still great pieces of engineering). I also really really like these Astons you showed us today, but my top 3 are these ones: Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato Aston Martin DBS 1st gen Aston Martin Victor Keep up the good work, I very much enjoy watching your vids ;)
Great video. To answer your question, if you pop the hood, under the bulge is a plenum chamber fed by two huge air inlet pipes so they were getting ram air effect another way, possibly more aerodynamic. They got over 400bhp. FWIW, I’d pick DB4, the DBS V12 from 2008, and the understated Prince of Wales spec 1977 Vantage.
In regards to the V8 vantage, Mr. Chad hairs, I believe that the front grille close off is for drag, tho I could be very wrong and is just for styling. However, the hood scoop is very American, as the vent for the scoop is right up against the windscreen, which takes the turbulent air between the bonnet and the windscreen in that way, rather than from the front, which'd usually be wasted as drag
@Frank Stephenson I really liked this video. It celebrates the greatest successes in design, gives lovely historical perspective on how the form advanced through the ages, and opened my eyes to a greater appreciation for each of these models. Thanks Frank.
Love these series and really great content and insight into car design…the good, the not so good and all clearly discussed from a position of real practical knowledge 👍🏻 Ignoring Ferrari and Aston Martin brand HyperCars and the heritage models, then my clear favourites are the Ferrari 458 Italia and the Aston Martin DB9 GT Volante. I own these and think both models represent the best and simplest form of design of that whole era for both brands. Keep the videos coming as they are a great watch and full of interest 👍🏻
According to "Aston Martin and Lagonda" by Chris Harvey and "The Aston Martin V8 1969 - 2000" by Russel Hayes, the Vantage's blanked off front grill was not used for cars in hotter climates, it improved the aerodynamics and a large scoop and air dam were introduced under the bumper for cooling. The effect was "an increased water temperature at idle from 85 to 95 degrees centigrade" - which it was argued was actually more optimal. The rear of the bonnet bump remained open to vent air/heat. The smoother bonnet look was a development of the design work originally done when the V8 Volante was introduced.
Frank, it would be cool to see a series analysing coach-built cars. I'd love to hear your take on the Touring Arese RH95, for example. Am I wrong to think it borrows design cues from Bugatti: a bit of Chiron in the back and Divo in the front?
I've never seen the 1977 V8 Vantage before, and surely wouldn't have expected anything like it to come from Aston Martin. Really compelling though. Thanks for the exposure!
'35 Ulster, DBR2, DBR4 Zagato, and One77. Interesting to hear you talk about the V8 and how it brought in a more masculine look. I always thought it was the nadir of AM design, but your point of view gives an interesting new perspective in the evolution of a brands design. Great review.
My top-3 Aston Martin designs would be the DB4 GT instead of DB4 GT Zagato, followed by the One-77 and the V8 Vantage just like yours (gen 2 DBS and gen 1 Vanquish round off my top-5). I agree with everything you've said about the past and present design of this marque. Also, I'd love for you to make a video on your top-3 Jaguar designs next in this series.
Can't agree with the 177 making the top three, though fully appreciate it's a personal choice. The 17,7 as with the 2001 Vanquish, both look like they have undergone cosmetic surgery and are suffering from botox bloat. The flowing lines are just not as cohesive, as in say the DB9, were the purity of form is just perfect. However, great to hear your opinion as always.
- The V8 Vantage always looked to me like a contrived facelift of the beautiful DBS. I completely agree on the others, esp the choice of Zagato over the DB4/DB5 (they have odd proportions viewed side-on). - I wonder if the Vantage's bonnet scoop is open at the rear - it looks like it may be. Holden did that on their A9X, drawing air in from the low-pressure area at the base of the windscreen for a more consistent airflow. - A thought on design language - Aston went through a phase until recently when, by using the same design language on all their models, the models were hard to tell apart if you only saw one occasionally. Good to see they're distinguishing their models more clearly now.
I'm ignorant in car history, so yesterday I was watching the Aston Martin Victor and I was thinking that it was a very strange design for Aston Martin. Now that I look at 1977 V8 Vantage, I think I can understand better which is the inspiration. BTW, I love both now.
The DB4GT by Touring debuted those iconic design features (grill & side vents) before Zagato got hold of it. Zagato (if anything) softened them. Not saying the Zagato isn’t a beautiful car, but the short wheelbase DB4GT by Touring is at least its equal, and it’s where the iconic grill shape and side vents came from.
I saw the One-77 only once at canne 10 years ago, it was alone on the pier, what a sighting! I love the fact that astons managed to kept that classiness. I'd love to know what your top 10 classiest car ever as I'm looking for inspiration for my sketches! (if you ask me I would definitly put the E-Legend from Peugeot in that list! :D)
I remember reading (I think in Octane magazine article about a former Aston Martin engineer) that they closed of the grille for aerodynamics and I'm assuming the v8 vantage could get sufficient air and cooling from the lower radiator.
Thanks so much for watching! As always, let me know in the comments your three favourite Astons. I look forward to seeing your choices.
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I love this channel. Please consider doing an episode on your thoughts about Corvette and its design throughout the decades, thank you.
I personally prefer the 70s DBS V8 over the vantage. It's the front end which just seems more elegant to me
The Victor is pretty awesome.
I missed the DBS 😉 Frank? Can you give us a tour to your garage??
The '77 V8 vantage looks very similar to the '77 Mustang King Cobra lol
According to Car magazine in the period, Aston had discovered through wind tunnel testing that little to no air was able to get through the grill at speeds above something like 120-130 mph, so they blocked it off in order to give it a higher top speed.
I remember reading the same thing except in Performance Car, I think. Blocking it off ended up ramming more air into the vents below and improving performance
Beat me to it! I remember reading the same road test - Victor Gauntlett's blue Vantage
I remember that explanation from the time. It's big and heavy, easy to ground a very expensive exhaust, a bit of a fast lorry to drive (saw an indicated 165, probably a real 150) and full of trim parts I recognised off my Dolomite Sprint. Great car though, the epitome of the era.
They also blocked off the top vent too for the same reasons even though the pic he showed was an earlier example with the hood scoop still open. The intake was fed through a plenum, so no reason to have that scoop there for intake reasons and the engine definitely wasn't venting heat in that direction either.
Then it would't help with speed either much!
The db9 for me is the cleanest most pure, theres nothing “flashy” just class and clean lines.
The original DB9 or the Virage that became the new DB9?
For me, it's the DB9’s brother, the Vantage, that fully expresses the design they share.
2008 DBS🤤
It's one of my top 3 beautiful modern cars, if not the best, it's perfect
I used to love the OG DB9 so much but now I prefer the DBS, I am not really sure why.
I remember reading an article on the One-77 where Marek Reichman described the design as having two interlocking rings, one vertical (the front of the car) and one horizontal (the back). It was a fascinating read, and it explained those rear wheel arches perfectly.
For me the vantage from the early 2000s. Gosh, that design is just so perfect. There was the vanquish, the db9, even the virage and such that were similar, but the vantage had the most gorgeous proportions from every angle
8:49 Gotta love those Forza Horizon 4 pictures :)
forza vista is honestly the best high res image source we have for some cars
love forza
@@minoassal I know, I use them in my videos too. Rarely anyone notices
Gt sport photo mode is awesome too but they don't have as much cars as Forza but they have more detail
@@migz8911 sorry… but as many*
The One-77 was always my absolute favorite car during childhood and I feel very much validated by someone like you listing it as one of their top three designs.
Ah yes, the Astonishing Martini, one of the most beautiful cars ever made
Shaken, not stirred.
*delicious*
@@tommynobaka and extra dirty.
Underrated comment. 👏
In olive green with pimento red interior
Very cool. As an honorable mention, I would have included the previous generation Vantage. Doesn’t matter that it’s a previous generation car, I think it looks much better than the current one. Just beautiful.
Definitely, the newer one is nice but an aesthetic step back from the early 2000’s car.
As always, what a beautiful video Frank, as a young 20 year old materials engineering undergraduate, your perspective on design and aesthetic surely will impact my career in some way.
BOOM! Thanks Y! 👍
My favorite element with the One-77 is the continuation from the side vents at the front to the sides. It gives this impression that the line just cuts through the wheel arch, almost separating the front wheels from the body of the car. It’s reminiscent of older cars from the thirties, with those separated wheel arches. I absolutely love the clever choice to not only enlarge the side vent to overtake the front fenders, but in how this adjustment redefines how you can separate the wheels without making a completely separate fender.
Yes, you are absolurely right. So many times have I admired this car from design perspective and just now did I discover that the front fenders vents are so perfectly aligned with the side vents in one line
I love the one-77 too. One funny thing about it though - the way the hip angle begins at the door shut line makes it seam like the hips are painted a brighter colour then the reast of the body work.
Hands down the one 77 blew me away as a kid and still continues to amaze me aesthetically today! Just perfection in balanced design!
Gotta say the VH-era Vantage (2009-2017??) is an almost perfectly balanced and most beautiful designs ever. Great list Frank... love these vids.
Great video, i would like to see a top 3 Lancia designs from you, keep up the good work!
Cheers Leonardo! 👍
I think that the One-77 genuinely has the most beautiful rear end of any car ever. The tail light is perfection and the simplicity of lines around the licence plate & diffuser is just gorgeous. I also love the way the exhausts are positioned between the fins of the diffuser.
V8 Vantage for me. I remember one driving up behind me as I was walking past Earl’s Court, London, one day. I literally thought it was approaching thunder and turned around to look, the guy driving it noticed and planted his foot. The sound of this beast roaring past will always stay with me. I think Performance Car called it The Beast In The Saville Row Suit. A truly great looking and sounding car.
My favorite is the 2009 Era V8 Vantage. I loved it so much, I bought one. The car is riddled with problems and has been annoying at times but a few years of fixing it and I'm currently enjoying it. I don't anticipate selling it anytime soon purely because of the style. It's basically a fancy Ford / Volvo.
I belive the stpry behind closed grill of V8 Vantage must have something to do with aerodynamics. My guess is that they wanted to achieve better top speed, but that's just my guess.
For my a DB9 is the obvious choice for the best of them all in terms of design. It is such a perfect blend of pure design and sporty elegance. I cannot belive it is more that 15 years old at this point.
Keep the great work Mr. Frank, love watching Your videos
I guess theres a little bit of nascar in It. Typically, in nascar, the cup cars have very small grilles just so they have lesser drag
Thank you Lukasz! 👍
Great video, as always! Love the details you're providing on each car and element!
I'm trying to understand the V8 Vantage design:
- maybe they removed the intake scoop of the hood because they managed to find a better intake location (e.g. side scoops? unusual choice for a V engine). Assuming that Aston Martin was close to go bankrupt, maybe a more detailled hood was too expensive. However, as long as you get the closest to stoichiometric ratio (petrol/air 14.7:1) all along the engine's operating range with that max airflow induced by the intake, why bothering with another design? Of course, there's always a way to get more HP but you know how development technical specs work.
- maybe they closed the grill because they didn't need to open it to cool the engine through a big radiator that needs an opened grill (e.g. Porsche 944/928 and 968 with tiny grills). Closing the grill represents a big advantage in terms of aerodynamics, greatly reducing drag I guess. Also, some engines work better at higher temperatures (e.g.: Porsche 928/944. I don't have an explanation for this).
A friend of mine had a US spec Volante and it had an open grill. Now that you've put the finger on this closed-grill, they should have found a reason to open it.
I would still go for the Aston Martin DB7 Volante, yes I know its platform is that of the Jaguar XJS (a beauty as well) but to me, the DB7 - especially the Volante - captures the essence of Aston Martin on the whole.
Thanks for another educational and entertaining video. My top three designs are 1. The Rapide - the elongated chassis and unhindered front grille of the Rapide S just give a sense of majesty, elegance and purposefulness to that deaign. Love this car in skyfall silver or scintilla silver. 2. The Vanquish Gen 2 - love the rear spoiler and aide profile. I love this car in Cumberland grey or Hammerhead silver. 3. DB11 AMR - beautiful front hood with clamshell design, interesting take of the side vents and I love the rear end. I do like a bloss black roof over a China grey body with yellow callipers peaking out of gloss black asymmetric wheels.
I get so much Ford Mustang when looking at those older Vantages. The first gen DB7 with an inline-6 and manual is still one of my affordable dream cars, I love how understated it is. The Aston Martin and Zagato collaborations are always really interesting and often quite zany, definitely eye-catching!
The 2014 vanquish would definitely be on my list. My personal favourite 👌
The greenhouse on the one-77 never felt right to me. But the rest is just so stunning
OMG Frank, You made my day so happy! I have been waiting for this video since the channel started. AMLL is my favorite brand in the world, i love every design of every year they have ever made in their 108 year existence.
I am biased toward the DB5 because of James Bond of course, and i love the DB4 too, they are basically the same but i like the look in the headlights of both, like to different outfits of the same guy.
I really can't be upset by your chioces because Aston has a TON of candidates, and as always you are on point with the details, the one thing i want to people to take notice in the One-77 is the tail lights, the most astonishing (pun certainly intended) i've ever seen, covering the whole of the rear end of the car and finishing with the Aston Martin wings design carved inside the lamps... absolutely gorgeous piece of art those lights. Brilliant Frank, you did it again, keep tearing the house down!
Thank you Joshua, much appreciated and will do! 👍
The One-77 aged so well. 12 years later, it still looks modern. It's the only car from 2009-2010 that I would still buy.
Again, describing and creating thoughts that i would not have arrived at. Brilliant video, i am learning more lingo.. today i picked up on "The Belt", and the "Greenhouse"....
Cheers Grip! 👍
The One-77 is one of my favorites. I am glad that Frank analysed and explained it's qualities for everyone to see.
When you mentioned one-77 it put a smile on my face. It's absolutely unique in every way , I love the muscles on the rear wheels.
Excellent video as always, I’d like to hear your opinion on the new Opel/Vauxhall Astra
The 1977 V8 Vantage looks like a classic 80s Jaguar XJ and a Mustang made love.
I think you nailed it about the choices of my favorite brand of cars. My choices were obviously the DB5 (because 007), the V8 Vantage/DBS/DB9 (but especially the Vantage. I love the V12 Vantage, but that is arguably the worst-looking for the gills in the hood... But the sound is definitely Aston Martin) and, of course, the One-77.
In that last one, I think there is no doubt it was peak Aston Martin design, I don't know how they can follow it up. The Valhalla/Valkyrie are great looking, but not jaw-dropping like the One-77.
Frank makes you think with his choices. My personal favorites is the DB5, 2008-12 DBS and the 2012-18 Vanquish.
The recently unveiled Victor is achingly good looking! And from an enthusiast perspective, can't beat a Cosworth tuned V12 driving the rear wheels and a manual transmission. Great video as usual!
How easily you sold me on the beauty of the One-77. I had never seen it before, and at first glance, the scoops beneath each headlight felt odd. But every new image/angle and explanation quickly changed my mind.
Cheers David! 👍
Mr Frank , you are the one who made me love car design and made me want to go learn car design, one day with determination and hard work I might be great designer like you , wonderful video
I recently did a watches and cars video where I said that my weekend car would be a birthyear (1979) Vantage Oscar India limited edition! What an absolute beast. Loved the video thanks Frank. Oh and the watch I matched it with was a birthyear Rolex Daytona 6263 "Big Red" - another absolute beast in the watch world. Imagine cruising around in that combo...ooofftt
It's even hard to make a top 10. I agree with your choices and the reasoning behind it.
Great video! Idea for future content: short takes on more mundane cars. Love to hear your thoughts on cars like the new S-class, Cadillac Lyric, or Lucid Air, for example.
The closed hood bulge on the second car - look at all the Chevys of the muscle car area that used Cowl Induction. The intake was routed to the low pressure area at the base of the windshield. Cool, unturbulent air was drawn in from their area.
One-77 looks so happy and also so effortlessly powerful. Same with supercars like the Carrera GT or the McLaren F1. Proper supercar!
I always loved Astons. Frank explains that raw feeling of beauty so well and makes me appreciate the design that much more. Thanks Frank ♥️
My pleasure! 👍
That V8 Vantage was my absolute favourite car at the time, and I was an avid Ferrarista!
Great video as always! Cannot wait for your take on Audi!
Next to the 550/575 the '07 DBS, is the most beautiful modern Coupe out there. Followed by the V8 Vantage, V12 Vanquish and DB7. Minus the interior.
The original 70s DBS is a great looker too and everything Zagato did with pretty much any Aston as well.
6:05 regarding your comments about the grille, honestly it depends. Usually race cars do have a ram-air system via a snorkel on mid engined cars (good example is your Maserati MC12 or the F1 GTR LongTail), in an front engined car, you can see this practice with the naca duct on the hood of the Viper. However, apart from that, and the cooling requirements, it’s better to keep the opening as minimal as possible to decrease drag. This is a technique that bonnevile salt racers do to their cars, they would literally cover the grilles of their cars in an effort to cheaply increase top speed by reducing drag. Of course, this presents problems with heat, but depending on the cooling system setup available, it is possible to get away with very minimal ducting.
The optimal solution in my point of view GT is active slats that open and close based on the intake needs and thermal requirements.
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I always had a soft spot for the DB7, personally. It felt like the first of a new generation of truly 'modern' yet timeless Aston designs. I'd imagine you know Ian Callum quite well, Frank?
Spent the day with Ian yesterday Jay, he’s an awesome guy! 👍
@@FrankStephensondesign Were you both in the same department when working on the Escort Cosworth? More importantly, is he jelly that you came up with the biplane rear wing? 😂
My 3 favourite astons:
DB5, DB9 and The Zagato Vanquish shooting brake from 2017.
Absolute design porn those cars are.
Zagato vanquish shooting brake😩
DB5 is overrated because of media, the DB6 is the perfect DB5 for me because of that rear end, it makes the car all-around more harmonious.
I have a car book that read that Aston Martin engineers closed off the front grille, on the V8 Vantage for aerodynamic purposes. Also stating that not that much cooling air was being pushed through the radiator grille on that particular model.
Yeah, now that you mention it, the air flow question in the '77 Vantage is one I'm starting to ask now...
Mr Stephenson, my absolute favorite car is the One77. So glad you mentioned it.
For me the Zagato is a bit bloated. The 'regular' DB4 GT to me seems leaner and meaner, and best looking ever Aston
Agree. It's a bit too bulbous.
I would agree. The regular DB4 is where the whole Aston Martin design language started and you can still see influences in the DB11 and Vantage.
I agree. I loved the front 3 quarters of the DB4 GTZ and I love that haunch in some colours but the rear pillar and back looks so much better on the standard GT.
I think the DB4 gt/ DB5 get the rear end all wrong, it doesn't work with the rest of the car design. For me they only fixed it in the DB6.
Thanks. I had not really appreciated the 1-77 before. Terrific design.
I’m so lucky that i found this channel, got me started with car design
Mk1 Vanquish S sits just behind the one-77 for me. A big brutal front end with big doe eyes and far more sculpted than later offerings. Ian Callum just needs to leave it alone now…
Gotta agree on the One-77. It's one of my favorite Car looks. Have no words to describe how beautiful it is.
For me it would be DB6mk2, V8 Vantage (same as your pick) and DB9GT. But my dream Aston would either be the recent Victor one-off, or an '80s V8 Vantage body on a DBS Superleggera chassis/powertrain/running gear restomod!!
I consider the One 77 the most beautiful car in the world. Looking forward to see it in person
My 5 favorite Aston Martin designs:
- DB4 Imo the most elegant one out of the DB4/DB5/DB6 bodydesignseries
- DB4 GT Zagato Just perfect from every angle
- DB9/Rapide* Timeless design in modern times (*showed Porsche how to turn a GT into a 4door!)
- DB10 Modern AM design distilled to it's most basic form
- Lagonda Taraf Again a Masterclass in how to design a timeless, elegant 4door saloon/limosine
Totally agree with the picks, and I was glad to see the one 77 make the cut. I'd add the vanquish redesign to the honorable mentions, I just think it has perfect proportions and I love the integrated spoiler.
The '12 Aston Martin Vanquish in Flugplatz Blue has to be one of my favourite cars of all time. Fell in love with it the first time I saw it.
DB3S, DB4 Zagato and One-77 would be my top three.
I also think that the DB11 is severely underrated. It has incredible road presence in real life (more so than DB7 and DB9 in my opinion) and has the potential to be truly stunning if the upcoming facelift is done correctly.
I'm just curious, what you don't or might not like about the DB9 that it didn't make your list. I think you made some amazing choices but the DB9 would have been on my list for sure.
Db9 introduced AM to me.
The DB9 is awesome too Stay, too many beautiful models in their line-up! 👍
A lot of people hated it, but I really liked the look of the Victor.
The DB9 is just really nostalgic for me, my grandpa had one and I really feel like it's "the" Aston Martin.
I remember seeing them show off the prototype Vulcan, and I loved the look. It's really aggressive, but still subtle.
Thank you for this!
I love One-77, V8 Vantage 2005 and DB5
Personally prefer DB4GT to Zagato - not so often we prefer the cheaper cars ! I just find it a bit more taught in its shape, but Frank you are so right that it defined Aston for next 10 years and then gave them the basis for the return to curves with the DB7 onwards. V8 Vantage is so brutal :) Not that I. think its the best looking of the newer cars but the original Vanquish really defined the current line-up and direction, probably even more so than the 0ne-77. Was it Callums legacy (the Vanquish) or Marek's taking the brand forward (One-77) ?? Great Vid
It had to be so hard to choose only 3. Astons are some of the most iconic and beautiful cars!
Wow, yeah totally agree. The only thing I don't like as much about the 177's design is the sweep from down through the front headlight. It looks like the car has a hair in it's eye. A bit uncomfortable. For the rest, stunning.
You are a man of incomparable taste, Francisco Sir!
I must also add, the V8 Vantage in the Living Daylights just looks so good, whenever I am visualising an 80s car in my mind if it has the "Living Daylights Factor" then it is up there with that car. So sophisticated and elegant, while brutal in its application. Am I sad it wasn't a Ur-quattro in that sequence, yes, but what we got was so good my imagination can have endless hours of fun dreaming up alternatives
I feel this would be a perfect candidate in a Mad Max type film. Like a rundown yet purposeful hot rod.
Or maybe even a centerpiece in a movie like Drive.
@@CFChristian Yes that does sound good, always thought the (pre apocalypse) Interceptor looked really classy as well as dark
@@benhooper1956 Yeah, you got it!
For me, I think the original Vanquish (2001-2007) is an incredibly beautiful one with proportions just right. I also love the DB5 as that's the classic Bond car. Great video!
@Frank as always awesome video! Regarding your question how and why they closed the grill of the V8 Vantage: they modified the engine with the later Series 5 model and replaced the big carburettors with electrical fuel injection. So they didn‘t need the airflow anymore. By closing both the grill and bonnet bulge they allegedly reduced the air drag by 10% over the standard saloon.
Cheers for that B! 👍
One-77, DB10 and the Facelifted DB9 will be the top 3 for me
My favorite is the 2001-2007 Vanquish. I love these lights with black borders! The early AM would be the DBR1, but I have a sweet spot for sports cars from this era. And finally, the modern one would be V12 Speedster. I don't think I have to add anything but "look at this bonnet"!
Enjoyed this Frank and was so pleased to see the Vantage and 1-77 on the list. The latter is one of the cars that has to be seen in the flesh to truly appreciate (I saw a metallic brown one at a concours event and it was jaw-dropping). I'd love to see your take on William Towns' Lagonda - a challenging design that saved the company! My top three: DB2/4 mark III, V8 Vantage Volante POW and that 1-77 in metallic brown...
Great video as always Frank! Your approach to car designs helped me with finding the true beauty of cars and a few years back I thought the more aggresive a vehicle is, the better. Turns out I now don't quite like cars I used to love a couple years back (in terms of their designs, they are obviously still great pieces of engineering). I also really really like these Astons you showed us today, but my top 3 are these ones:
Aston Martin Vanquish Zagato
Aston Martin DBS 1st gen
Aston Martin Victor
Keep up the good work, I very much enjoy watching your vids ;)
Thank you Rapid, much appreciated! 👍
i like the v12 vantage 2013 and the new db11 v12 the most but this is a great list
Great video. To answer your question, if you pop the hood, under the bulge is a plenum chamber fed by two huge air inlet pipes so they were getting ram air effect another way, possibly more aerodynamic. They got over 400bhp. FWIW, I’d pick DB4, the DBS V12 from 2008, and the understated Prince of Wales spec 1977 Vantage.
Cheers Land! 👍
Frank is my favourite new person. I’m new to this series. Incredible sense of communicating visual cues and design concepts.
Thank you! 👍
3V; Vanquish I, Vulcan (road version) and Victor
In regards to the V8 vantage, Mr. Chad hairs, I believe that the front grille close off is for drag, tho I could be very wrong and is just for styling. However, the hood scoop is very American, as the vent for the scoop is right up against the windscreen, which takes the turbulent air between the bonnet and the windscreen in that way, rather than from the front, which'd usually be wasted as drag
@Frank Stephenson I really liked this video. It celebrates the greatest successes in design, gives lovely historical perspective on how the form advanced through the ages, and opened my eyes to a greater appreciation for each of these models. Thanks Frank.
Thanks, my pleasure J! 👍
10:30 had me going for a second haha! Funny edit.
It's great to be introduced to older classics before my te because i considered many of there ugly but now i can appreciate them and see their beauty.
Love these series and really great content and insight into car design…the good, the not so good and all clearly discussed from a position of real practical knowledge 👍🏻
Ignoring Ferrari and Aston Martin brand HyperCars and the heritage models, then my clear favourites are the Ferrari 458 Italia and the Aston Martin DB9 GT Volante. I own these and think both models represent the best and simplest form of design of that whole era for both brands.
Keep the videos coming as they are a great watch and full of interest 👍🏻
According to "Aston Martin and Lagonda" by Chris Harvey and "The Aston Martin V8 1969 - 2000" by Russel Hayes, the Vantage's blanked off front grill was not used for cars in hotter climates, it improved the aerodynamics and a large scoop and air dam were introduced under the bumper for cooling. The effect was "an increased water temperature at idle from 85 to 95 degrees centigrade" - which it was argued was actually more optimal. The rear of the bonnet bump remained open to vent air/heat. The smoother bonnet look was a development of the design work originally done when the V8 Volante was introduced.
Many thanks for that info James, much appreciated! 👍
I almost agree, my three is DB4 Zagato, One 77 and DBS V12 (2008-2012)
The DBS V12 is also a classic Aston design which i love
Frank, love your videos. I would love to hear your thoughts on the current Vantage and how it compares to the last generation.
Frank, it would be cool to see a series analysing coach-built cars. I'd love to hear your take on the Touring Arese RH95, for example. Am I wrong to think it borrows design cues from Bugatti: a bit of Chiron in the back and Divo in the front?
Not sure about top 3 but the One 77 is the no. 1 for me. Just beautiful and looks contemporary. Great footage btw.
I've never seen the 1977 V8 Vantage before, and surely wouldn't have expected anything like it to come from Aston Martin. Really compelling though. Thanks for the exposure!
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'35 Ulster, DBR2, DBR4 Zagato, and One77. Interesting to hear you talk about the V8 and how it brought in a more masculine look. I always thought it was the nadir of AM design, but your point of view gives an interesting new perspective in the evolution of a brands design. Great review.
Cheers Jog! 👍
My top-3 Aston Martin designs would be the DB4 GT instead of DB4 GT Zagato, followed by the One-77 and the V8 Vantage just like yours (gen 2 DBS and gen 1 Vanquish round off my top-5). I agree with everything you've said about the past and present design of this marque. Also, I'd love for you to make a video on your top-3 Jaguar designs next in this series.
Can't agree with the 177 making the top three, though fully appreciate it's a personal choice. The 17,7 as with the 2001 Vanquish, both look like they have undergone cosmetic surgery and are suffering from botox bloat. The flowing lines are just not as cohesive, as in say the DB9, were the purity of form is just perfect. However, great to hear your opinion as always.
- The V8 Vantage always looked to me like a contrived facelift of the beautiful DBS. I completely agree on the others, esp the choice of Zagato over the DB4/DB5 (they have odd proportions viewed side-on).
- I wonder if the Vantage's bonnet scoop is open at the rear - it looks like it may be. Holden did that on their A9X, drawing air in from the low-pressure area at the base of the windscreen for a more consistent airflow.
- A thought on design language - Aston went through a phase until recently when, by using the same design language on all their models, the models were hard to tell apart if you only saw one occasionally. Good to see they're distinguishing their models more clearly now.
I'm ignorant in car history, so yesterday I was watching the Aston Martin Victor and I was thinking that it was a very strange design for Aston Martin. Now that I look at 1977 V8 Vantage, I think I can understand better which is the inspiration.
BTW, I love both now.
The DB4GT by Touring debuted those iconic design features (grill & side vents) before Zagato got hold of it. Zagato (if anything) softened them. Not saying the Zagato isn’t a beautiful car, but the short wheelbase DB4GT by Touring is at least its equal, and it’s where the iconic grill shape and side vents came from.
I saw the One-77 only once at canne 10 years ago, it was alone on the pier, what a sighting! I love the fact that astons managed to kept that classiness. I'd love to know what your top 10 classiest car ever as I'm looking for inspiration for my sketches! (if you ask me I would definitly put the E-Legend from Peugeot in that list! :D)
I remember reading (I think in Octane magazine article about a former Aston Martin engineer) that they closed of the grille for aerodynamics and I'm assuming the v8 vantage could get sufficient air and cooling from the lower radiator.