Berman got a few things right and this was one of them, to let Obrien sound like Meaney, and to recognize the brilliance of Colm Meaney and make him a regular on DS9.
Everyone who knows anything about Trek knows that O'Brien is the most important character in Starfleet history, and Colm's contract for DS9 (which gave him time off, whenever he wanted to do movies), proved how important they held him as an actor.
@@Rensune sorry just read this question. How many ? Well over 30 . I mean meany and i are from Dublin , Dublin has two different accents ( north and south side of the city) 32 countries each a little different, and some counties have isolated ideas with different accents. A few i can barely understand. ( they are speaking English its just hard to understand) and then there is the Irish language ( Gaelic) speaking , that sounds different as well . So if your from Dublin like colm and you can speak Irish it sounds or has a different accent. ( like an English person speaking French or Spanish) but dozens of accents, but most are incredibly similar. You can often tell where someone is from by how they say hello . Or the local equivalent of hello . Like Dublin its ( howya ) ( how are you ) or Belfast ( what about ya ) what about you or ( how are you ) some places say . ( well ) others ( how are ye ) lol . Each tells you where someone is from. Even if they say the same hello they say it with a different accent. ( soft or harsh sounding) north , south east and west . Are the big ones. Sorry tmi
I don’t blame you… in my opinion, the Dublin accent is quite mild to a lot of folks in the US (particularly Midwesterners) the bulk of the pronunciation is nearly identical with only subtle pronunciation differences and cadences. The Dublin accent has nearly identical vowel pronunciation and stress to the midwestern American one… ( with the one major exception being vowels with an r after them. ) And as CM said, he Americanized things a little himself. if you spend about two weeks in Dublin, you’ll end up doing the opposite subconsciously. It’s very easy to accidentally slip into it.
i'm not irish at all, but i find all those irish dialects very fascinating. they should do a show of various irish dialects so non-irish people can learn them.
I kinda wish people would learn our Irish language. 😢 the Iceland language (different enough from Norwegian to be called “Icelandic” and not “Ancient Norwegian with a couple hundred year’s of natural linguistic change” is still spoken. But our Irish language is very very close to being lost. There have been some revival efforts, and encouragement (& funding from Irish Americans) but still most people can only say a few phrases in it. The Irish have a reputation as writers, poets, and songwriters and they/we use English creatively and quite well. But, I can’t help but feel sad when aboriginal languages are lost (any aboriginal language, any aboriginal culture).
I've heard the typical "Irish" accent found in American films is found mainly in Donegal - that sing-song Irish with a "lilt" - and the word Wee used a lot.
My boss is from Cork. It is very singsongy and also a trainwreck. It's taken two years but I'm getting used to it. He does do the thing where he talks too damn fast and trails off at the end.
Oh god, I had a similarly accented irish fella come into the shop the other day. Nicest chap in the world, but spoke to us lime folk like we were friends of his from the home country. It felt like that episode of TNG where it takes Picard its entire length to decipher what this one alien's trying to say to him.
To be fair, accents have got to be one of the hardest things to get right. I’m American, and I’ve heard British actors try to have an American accents, and sometimes they sound okay, but lots of times they aren’t convincing at all. It’s got to be a big challenge for actors.
First trick: never ever try to do a national accent. Pick an EXACT place. No such thing as British or American accent. But there is Newcastle and Boise.
@@tristanridley1601 Yeah, that is true, there is no such thing as an American or British accent, but I don’t think regional accents make it any easier. I live in New England and with the exception of a few local actors, that’s a hard one to get right too.
Mike Myers tells a funny story how he was in Dublin for some project and practicing his lines outside his hotel with what he thought was a pretty good Irish accent. As he was speaking, he heard this voice from a nearby balcony and there was this young kid about 10 and the kid kept shouting at him, "That's absolute Shite! You suck Myers!"
@@tristanridley1601Well I think what we think of the British accent (when they don't mean cockney) is what they call the BBC accent (which is what the network pushes their news people to sound like.) Canada also has the CBC accent. It's not as common but there is a type of American accent used by most newscasters nationally and I think a lot of foreigner think of this as THE American accent (it's also what you hear in a lot of language tapes).
I tell you what I remember watching Snatch and couldn't understand Brad Pitt's accent (which I guess is "traveler" - Irish Gypsy). Apparently his accent was so terrible in The Devil's Own that he worked really hard and long to sound authentic in Snatch (and a lot of Irish people said it's the most authentic Irish accent by a non Irish actor).
If Colm had used a real Irish dialect, I doubt if Americans could have understood him. I watch a couple of shows out of Scotland, and without subtitles, I wouldn't know what they're saying even though they are using English words.
Colm is blissfully unaware that Star Trek is a tool for social engineering and his accent was important in the targeting of Ireland by the corporations.
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He had the most technobabble of anyone I've ever seen in star trek and it really sounded like he knew what he was talking about
Geordi used a lot of technobabble too.
@@kurtb8474 true, not so much technobabble in Discovery
everything was tachyon field related
Berman got a few things right and this was one of them, to let Obrien sound like Meaney, and to recognize the brilliance of Colm Meaney and make him a regular on DS9.
But what happened to Sonya Gomez? :)
Most under rated and actually most important actor/character in Star Trek. A lovely man 👏
Everyone who knows anything about Trek knows that O'Brien is the most important character in Starfleet history, and Colm's contract for DS9 (which gave him time off, whenever he wanted to do movies), proved how important they held him as an actor.
I'm from the north-NORTH OF CORK lol
O’Brien has always been one of my absolute favorite characters.
He comes off so human.
I grew up near colm meanys family. My dad knew his mother. ( north side of Dublin accent)
How many accents would you say Ireland has?
@@Rensune God, as many as it has people but a good generic rule is to go by one per county.
Awesome! Miles O'Brien always seemed like a really cool guy!
@@Rensune sorry just read this question. How many ? Well over 30 . I mean meany and i are from Dublin , Dublin has two different accents ( north and south side of the city) 32 countries each a little different, and some counties have isolated ideas with different accents. A few i can barely understand. ( they are speaking English its just hard to understand) and then there is the Irish language ( Gaelic) speaking , that sounds different as well . So if your from Dublin like colm and you can speak Irish it sounds or has a different accent. ( like an English person speaking French or Spanish) but dozens of accents, but most are incredibly similar. You can often tell where someone is from by how they say hello . Or the local equivalent of hello . Like Dublin its ( howya ) ( how are you ) or Belfast ( what about ya ) what about you or ( how are you ) some places say . ( well ) others ( how are ye ) lol . Each tells you where someone is from. Even if they say the same hello they say it with a different accent. ( soft or harsh sounding) north , south east and west . Are the big ones. Sorry tmi
@@alexion2001 right
I just adore this actor man!
I have watched O'Brian so much that I don't hear an accent sometimes anymore. In my mind, he has an American accent.
5:19 That is the most unflattering screencap of Keiko I have seen.
Edit: 6:16. Ok, that screencap made me laugh.
Hahaha. Good 😎👍
@@StargateOmega 😂
5:19 is also when he starts the story about the old guy who married the pretty girl.... :)
Excellent speaker, I loved this!
I love Colm Meaney Irish accent .
I didn't even know O' Brien (or Meaney, for that matter) was Irish until my early 20s or so and I'm a lifelong Trek fan (33 y.o now).
Lmao typical
I don’t blame you… in my opinion, the Dublin accent is quite mild to a lot of folks in the US (particularly Midwesterners) the bulk of the pronunciation is nearly identical with only subtle pronunciation differences and cadences. The Dublin accent has nearly identical vowel pronunciation and stress to the midwestern American one… ( with the one major exception being vowels with an r after them. ) And as CM said, he Americanized things a little himself. if you spend about two weeks in Dublin, you’ll end up doing the opposite subconsciously. It’s very easy to accidentally slip into it.
Thanks for uploading this! I remember watching it years ago but it had been taken down a while back, I'm glad it's not lost media 😄
Hey right on! I had to take it down years ago LOL, it was on my first channel, Omega ordained.😎👍
@@StargateOmega Ah that expains it! Keep up the good work 😁
Colm is a class act
“We have people coming to learn English here from all over.. Italy, France.”
Made me chuckle... I’m not sure it’s working.
What a man and What a Career
Colm did very well there after being called a west brit, the man askibg the question was needling him a bit.
He was gracious about the whole thing. I might have been pissed
i'm not irish at all, but i find all those irish dialects very fascinating. they should do a show of various irish dialects so non-irish people can learn them.
I kinda wish people would learn our Irish language. 😢 the Iceland language (different enough from Norwegian to be called “Icelandic” and not “Ancient Norwegian with a couple hundred year’s of natural linguistic change” is still spoken. But our Irish language is very very close to being lost. There have been some revival efforts, and encouragement (& funding from Irish Americans) but still most people can only say a few phrases in it. The Irish have a reputation as writers, poets, and songwriters and they/we use English creatively and quite well. But, I can’t help but feel sad when aboriginal languages are lost (any aboriginal language, any aboriginal culture).
If you go 5miles north south east or west of anywhere you will get comlpeteley different accents
I've heard the typical "Irish" accent found in American films is found mainly in Donegal - that sing-song Irish with a "lilt" - and the word Wee used a lot.
Even in Dublin the accents change. The first time I saw the Commitments I wondered if I should put on subtitles. (Meany was fantastic in it.)
Dublin is basically the new york of Ireland. Lots of diversity. Move out west south north is where you get the real language.
That picture at 5:25 is VERY unflattering for Keiko
2024. Just back from Belfast and DATA was right. Its happening.
My boss is from Cork. It is very singsongy and also a trainwreck. It's taken two years but I'm getting used to it. He does do the thing where he talks too damn fast and trails off at the end.
Just be glad he's not from Sneem
People from Cork don't talk they sing😍I absolutely love it💕🇮🇪
Oh god, I had a similarly accented irish fella come into the shop the other day. Nicest chap in the world, but spoke to us lime folk like we were friends of his from the home country. It felt like that episode of TNG where it takes Picard its entire length to decipher what this one alien's trying to say to him.
To be fair, accents have got to be one of the hardest things to get right. I’m American, and I’ve heard British actors try to have an American accents, and sometimes they sound okay, but lots of times they aren’t convincing at all. It’s got to be a big challenge for actors.
First trick: never ever try to do a national accent. Pick an EXACT place. No such thing as British or American accent. But there is Newcastle and Boise.
@@tristanridley1601 Yeah, that is true, there is no such thing as an American or British accent, but I don’t think regional accents make it any easier. I live in New England and with the exception of a few local actors, that’s a hard one to get right too.
Mike Myers tells a funny story how he was in Dublin for some project and practicing his lines outside his hotel with what he thought was a pretty good Irish accent. As he was speaking, he heard this voice from a nearby balcony and there was this young kid about 10 and the kid kept shouting at him, "That's absolute Shite! You suck Myers!"
@@tristanridley1601Well I think what we think of the British accent (when they don't mean cockney) is what they call the BBC accent (which is what the network pushes their news people to sound like.) Canada also has the CBC accent. It's not as common but there is a type of American accent used by most newscasters nationally and I think a lot of foreigner think of this as THE American accent (it's also what you hear in a lot of language tapes).
I know some ol boys in the holler youd need subtitles for lmao
I tell you what I remember watching Snatch and couldn't understand Brad Pitt's accent (which I guess is "traveler" - Irish Gypsy). Apparently his accent was so terrible in The Devil's Own that he worked really hard and long to sound authentic in Snatch (and a lot of Irish people said it's the most authentic Irish accent by a non Irish actor).
Hell on Wheels 🎡😊
Orson Welles did a terrible Irish accent in The Lady from Shanghai. But Robert Mitchum did a decent one in Ryan's Daughter.
More shocking and controversial than a black commander running the space station was a real Irishman in charge engineering 😂.
Ah, Prick Berman and his notes!
To be fair, Colm doesn’t really have a strong Dublin accent. I guess it has softened over the years.
If Colm had used a real Irish dialect, I doubt if Americans could have understood him. I watch a couple of shows out of Scotland, and without subtitles, I wouldn't know what they're saying even though they are using English words.
Colm did use his real accent weren't you listening to what he said. Scottish accents are far harder to understand generally than Irish accents.
Eh, besides certain turns of phrase, the dubs sound the most comprehensible IMO
@@elbowache I agree, but that doesn't make it the best accent on the ears. I enjoy a good Galway accent especially on a female.
It would have been impossible for me to understand too.
@@crystalheart9 try watching video’s of the o'donovan brothers there from Skibbereen in Southern Ireland near Cork.
Colm is blissfully unaware that Star Trek is a tool for social engineering and his accent was important in the targeting of Ireland by the corporations.
The thumbnail is extremely offensive to some Irish people.
So?