PALMEMORDET | Mysterier vid mordplatsen (17) Sällskapet som passerade mordplatsen
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- I detta avsnitt tittar jag närmare på den grupp om fyra personer som passerade mordplatsen endast minuter före mordet.
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Kan det ha varit så att Björkman kanske helt enkelt kollade i skyltfönster medans han väntade? Det, samt att han säkert var i sina egna tankar.. Kan kan han på så sätt inte alls lagt märke till förbipasserande. Han var ju inte helt nykter heller.
Interesting analysis - three comments:
1 - The first interview with the group (Åsa, Klas and Niklas) that I have seen took place on 26/3/1986 - 26 days after the event. Memory decay, especially regarding an (at the time) uneventful intoxicated less than five-minute walk becomes a concern. None of them seem to be able to recall their exact route after leaving the bankomat.
2 - If the synchronization of the bankomat-computers on both sides of Sveavägan as claimed are true, the last bank transaction of the group took place 99 seconds prior to the first shot, which would allow a walking distance since leaving the bank between 127 - 165 meters.
3 - When Fauzzi looks back after hearing the shot, he sees Björkman, but not the group that should be between him and the scene of the murder. Subsequently they likely turned left at Adolf Fredriks kyrkan to get to Holländargatan and almost reach Olofsgatan. Thus, shielded by the buildings they would not be able to hear the shots.
@@lennartpluto8964 De sidste 52 meter / 95 sekunder, indikerer 0.55 m/s - cirka 50% af normal walking pace.
Where do you got information about synkronisation of the bankomat?
I always found his story to be a bit fishy for some reason and I can't really put my finger on why. Being so close and not having that much to say I guess might be part of it, no matter how drunk you are.
@@henrikandersson987 Sorry, late reply: "Vad vi med säkerhet vet är, att rubricerade automater hade samma tid fom övervakningsapplikation tiden före kl 16.59 den 28 februari 1986 ochh tiden efter kl 07.56 den 3 mars 1986” Source: ar2valtonen.blogspot.com/2020/08/bankomat-tiden-som-blev-otjanlig-da.html#more; letter from Bankomat Centralen, page 3/8 , section 4.
Vilka uttag finns registrerade från uttagsautomaten resp dörren till bankomatutrymmet, samt vilka tider?
Att dom inte hörde skotten borde ju stärka en senare tidsangivelse för skotten. Är det inte 23:21 +-30 sek det sägs att det hände?
Oerhört intressant, Har man tagit bankomat tiderna på Inge Morelius sällskap när de tog ut pengar så man vet ungefärligen vilken tid han stod parkerad på andra sidan vägen?
Inge morelius fästmös
Kvitto står det 23.18
Ja det har man och i utredningen framgår att den bankomaten hade ett fel i tidskoalitioneringen. Finns att läsa om i bla de offentliga förhören mm.
Okej men även om bankomaten visade fel tid borde man endå kunna räkna ut under vilken tids rymd Inge stått parkerad på andra sidan vägen i antal minuter,
@@armstrongcuster9262 official fel +90 seconds; but more likely +182 seconds
1st transaction from Morelius gruppen : 95 sekunder före 1st shot. Men Morelius' observationer indicerer presence cirka 3 minuter före mordet
Seeing how close the ATM machine was to the Dekorima shop and given that Björkman stood outside the bank for at least 4 minutes (he didn't just stand in one spot the whole time, right?), I wouldn't be surprised if he went to look at the window displays once or twice. And if he did, could he actually be the man Inge Morelius saw standing there minutes before the murder?
Morelius said the Dekorima man kept looking up and down the Sveavägen as if waiting for something or someone. This would be consistent with Björkman waiting for his friends to come out and weighing his options, finally deciding to go home, instead of following them to another bar. Morelius wouldn't be the only person to confuse Björkman with the killer: as we know, Nicola Fauzzi and Lisbet Palme both at one point thought he was the shooter.
It is a possibility. However; Morelius stated that the Dekorima man was already there, when the group walked by the corner heading North.
But Björkman's posse said they didn't notice anybody standing there when they walked by. Granted, they probably weren't paying attention. Björkman himself had a hard time seeing anybody nearby, until the Palmes (and the killer) appeared before him when he turned south on Sveavägen. I still think Morelius may have been confused, as Björkman too was wearing a kitted cap, like the killer, and he mostly only saw his profile in the shop window. It's just a thought that occurred to me when I was watching one of Otto Ekevi's videos on the early witness statements.
@@EliCross also, the group did not notice passing the Palmes as they must have done at about 40m North of Tunnelgatan 70-80 seconds prior to the first shot. They were not really attentive
Är Anders Björkman fortfarande i livet ? Ålder idag ?
Ja 75 år. Bor på samma adress som 1986.
En enkel med osannolik förklaring skulle ju vara det att det är Björkman som har mötet med makarna Palme. Om man ska tro på mötesscenariot.