Finally! Somebody that is saying it exactly how it is! Bro, you're 1,000% right. Eedris is right but he's not been able to articulate 😊😅his case very well! Thank you for saying the truth
You guys doing great job here using your platform positively. Methink someone like Daddy Freeze needs to come here and have proper professional training instead of fanning the embers of discord. Kudos to the guest; so full of wisdom.
You really spoke well my brother. You are just too full of wisdom and the way narrated your words is just too spectacular. I wish someone can forward this Video to Daddy Freeze to learn wisdom without involving problems or creating more problems to this important topic of the Afro Betz creation. We should be an Ambassador of peace when important topic like the surface.
You can even take it back to blacky in 91/92 ,rosie track..... Mike Okri Omoge song late 80s or dizzi k falola. All way before the early 90s , mid 90s generation
No. Those artists were in the pre-Afrobeats era. They had flashes of individual successes but not enough to revolutionize the Nigerian music industry and did not inspire a whole generation of other artists to follow in their footsteps. Before the remedies and Plantashun Boiz came into the industry, Nigerian music was not mainstream even in Nigeria. We used to dance mostly to American music. It was Remedies with Shakomo and others in their generation that changed all that. As far as I'm concerned, any song released in Nigeria before Shakomo was not part of the revolution that has come to be known as Afrobeats
@@obiflex you are wrong. That's when Nigeria pop, what you call Afrobeats today started. If you didn't dance to our music in the late 70s and 80s, you need not comment, please.
@@edzico1908 No bro, those guys like Blacky, they definitely still have their fans but their music was a niche music just like the great Sunny Ade, Shina Peters and Osadebe. The mainstream music in Nigeria was definitely American music. But from 1997, the Remedies, Plantashun Boiz, PSquare, Dbanj etc revolutionized the music industry with higher quality music that was a fusion of hip hop and Nigerian pop music. Their music made Nigerian music to take over the Nigerian airwaves and became mainstream in Nigeria, Africa and the world. In Blacky's era, Nigerian musicians just came and went. They never dominated the airwaves all over Nigeria
This guy is an intelligent man. In fact it started in the 80s with a lot of young artists then trying to break international. It was the Sakomo by Remedies that lay the strongest foundation for what is happening now. Kenny Ogungbe and DY were the strongest foundation promoters that started it.
No time is the right time my brother. You make the time right for yourself. Am a fan of wiz and davido, but it's still unfair to say burna boy came into the scene when the time is right. He has been horning his craft since 2014. And consistency had no choice than to smile at him
You can tell that Burna Boy has gotten under the skin of this young man, and it pains him to actually say something good about him. If Burna Boy was thrash, no one would be talking about him. Burna is a genius, and he's doing stuff that most Nigerian artists would only see it in their dreams, and there comes jealousy, which is a human condition. Nothing but to the moon for Burna and stop all these ego talk. Nonsensical Nonsense.
I don't agree with the argument that wizkid and David's albums had to struggle for burna boy's album to succeed. Burna boy's album could also have struggled too. Let's don't undermine the fact that butna's album had to succeed because he put in the work. Nothing is a fluke, burna was consistent with his craft, dating back to 2014.
Absolutely. In this discussion, he never once mentioned the hard work and talent that enables Burna to thrive today. He keeps going on with this, paving the way banter, which is borderline myopic and ridiculous. Be mediocre and come out and tell us about this paving the way BS. Give Burna his flowers and move on......
Nigeria music goes way beyond the 1990s. The 90s played a pivotal part, but it surely wasn't the origins for what our music industry is today. There's been too many journeys even deeper than the 90s, 80s, 70s etc etc.
I knew i could count on pulse to break it down & give context to it. Excellent. No man is an island & maybe like u said every1 just misunderstood themselves compounded by ego problems. How i like to describe it is, Afrobeats is like a skyscraper, for it to stand its foundation had to be dug deep. While that foundation was built by the likes of Eedris, Remedies & people before that era too. Presently we are building the skyscraper, & this isnt even its peak yet. So yes its just lack of understanding, by some stars. Eedris did pave the way, though maybe his mannerism & words was what angered Burna Boy. But I think with time every1 will understand that the movement is bigger than any artist personal ego. Credits should be giving to the OGs, not taking away credit from the present stars. Every1 is just contributing their bricks to the massive skyscraper
It all started in the 80s. People have started mixing local languages and Pidgin with foreign and local elements. The first Nigerian song to ever infuse rap was Alex O's 'Celebration'. This was way before Junior and Pretty. People also forget to recognize the efforts of people like Blakky, Mike Okri. Mike Okri and likes of Alex O have been doing Afro pop music which i believe influenced, Plantashun Boiz, Remedies and so on. For me i think the real pioneers of this present mainstream pop music are people like Emma Ogosi down to Alex O, Mike Okri, Blakky etc. before the likes if Junior and Pretty, to The Remedies and plantashun Boys. The history may not have documented in writing but the recorded songs and events are already been archiver, it's just for u to do ur research At the end of the day let's give credit to the veterans.
But we have people before Edris if you are below 32 years downward do not even talk about this, Edris himself did he acknowledge people before him? The analyzer is just a sympathizer. Fela Kuti, Dr. Alban, Lagbaja, Tony Allen, Mike Okri, and so many Hits Songs.
I agree with the fact that the OG's paved the way. But I still would not agree to the position that wizkid and davido had to test their sound for burna. Burna's sound is totally different from those two
You are all wrong!!!! Nigerian pop music (Afrobeats or Akarabeats) started in the days of Kris Okotie, Onyeka Onwenu, Jide Obi, Felix Lebarty, Ofege (St. Gregory's college band), Dizzy K. Falola, Mandy Brown Ojugbana, Stella Monye, Blakky and the rest. The 90s stars were of the second generation movement. If you don't acknowledge the stars mentioned here you know nothing about Nigerian music.
Majek, Mike okri… these guys did tours abroad ooo, fela the king, was before these guys. The issue with Eedris is his mannerism, and don’t think Burna will react the way he does if not for the energy given to him too.
You're brilliant with your analysis but Eedris has no right to bully every young artist as though their wasn't other artists that pave the way for him. He's had ago at 2face, PSquare, Timaya, WizKid, Divido and the list goes on.
BURNA BOY HAS NEVER SAID NO ONE INFLUENCED OR INSPIRED HIM! He has always hailed the influence of the likes of FELA & TUFACE in his music. Mostly Nigerian indigenous sounds. Y’all just hate that man there because Nigerian mentality naturally is always entitlement! This was the same man they slandered and rejected Lol. Success is sweet indeed
Eedris paved way but ppl also did for him too. I think Burna contribution now is a pace setter which is different from way paver. He is setting a pace that is the height afrobeats can reach as a modern African artist/rock star. Everyone get role for this Afrobeats to the world journey. Everyone including the women.
I have never seen or heard Burna boy disrespect or deny the likes of Fela , Dbanj, KSA, WASIU , Tony One week , FATAI rolling dollar … and the rest OGs. We have seen these videos on the internet. Burna Boy will only come for you if you come for him… look at his s track records. You don’t see other OGs chatting shit about entitlement,… why is EEDRIS different?
Afar, make everybody rest, e no get who do something way no work with the benefits of the past efforts but unto person journey na him know wetin e face. If e no see help way give am head start com say nobody make am happen for am. They are both right because na perspective
This is not a semantic issue. First and foremost, u need to find out from the author of the statement what exactly they were trying to convey. Aside that, u have no right to fault other people’s views on the message. U have the right to interpret it the way u want. Again, only the author can tell what he meant
PULSE ARE BEEFING BURNA BOY BECAUSE HE CALLED THEM OUT FOR ALWAYS SAY SHIT ABOUT HIM. Una for call him name na, make him sue una 😂😂 FEAR FEAR 😂😂😂 PULSE
Now ask ur self, did he create his own sound? If our music wasn't commercial at the time, he might not even consider doing music at all and credits should go to guys who made it commercial before you came.
@@intelliquick2639 I get you, and it's totally fine to feel like that, but the buttom line is if some people didn't not walk a path before you, you probably will not know the path exist, think about it
I continue to disagree with a lot of u that the afrobeats started in d 90s....this narrative to me is wrong and it simply eradicates d efforts of d true pioneers. All d OGs u guys are mentioning today actually followed on d footsteps of the those who pioneered by singing afro-pop. Afrobeat today started as afro pop of d early 80s...We have d likes of Dizzy K Falola, Chris Okotie, Felix Liberty, Mandy Brown Ojugbana and Alex O. These were trues superstars and they lives and fashioned their music after d US and UK pop stars of the 80s. They were signed under international labels too. And some of them had shows outside the country. Their voices are silent now because many of them have turned born-again or are pastors now. The OGs of the 90s are d second level pioneers Pls. I want anybody to come out to disprove this.
I for one luv burna music but he is too full of him self because those before him pave the way for WizKid David burna nd many others just as WizKid davido burna boy re na also pavein the way for new artists
A lot of educated illiterates in Nigeria .You lack context to begin with.burna boy saying “no one paved the way for him” he was alluding to the people that was demeaning his success by saying his success was by luck and naming people for the reason for his success. this journalist is getting paid to yap nonsense. I have to respect his hustle.
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Finally! Somebody that is saying it exactly how it is! Bro, you're 1,000% right. Eedris is right but he's not been able to articulate 😊😅his case very well! Thank you for saying the truth
Did Eedris give accolades to Zakky Azey that also pave the way for him?
You guys doing great job here using your platform positively. Methink someone like Daddy Freeze needs to come here and have proper professional training instead of fanning the embers of discord. Kudos to the guest; so full of wisdom.
Amazing breakdown. I love the examples you used about the early collaborations and the the path. Keep it up.
You really spoke well my brother. You are just too full of wisdom and the way narrated your words is just too spectacular. I wish someone can forward this Video to Daddy Freeze to learn wisdom without involving problems or creating more problems to this important topic of the Afro Betz creation. We should be an Ambassador of peace when important topic like the surface.
You can even take it back to blacky in 91/92 ,rosie track..... Mike Okri Omoge song late 80s or dizzi k falola. All way before the early 90s , mid 90s generation
No. Those artists were in the pre-Afrobeats era. They had flashes of individual successes but not enough to revolutionize the Nigerian music industry and did not inspire a whole generation of other artists to follow in their footsteps.
Before the remedies and Plantashun Boiz came into the industry, Nigerian music was not mainstream even in Nigeria. We used to dance mostly to American music. It was Remedies with Shakomo and others in their generation that changed all that. As far as I'm concerned, any song released in Nigeria before Shakomo was not part of the revolution that has come to be known as Afrobeats
@@obiflex you are wrong. That's when Nigeria pop, what you call Afrobeats today started. If you didn't dance to our music in the late 70s and 80s, you need not comment, please.
@@obiflexyou are right
@@edzico1908 No bro, those guys like Blacky, they definitely still have their fans but their music was a niche music just like the great Sunny Ade, Shina Peters and Osadebe. The mainstream music in Nigeria was definitely American music. But from 1997, the Remedies, Plantashun Boiz, PSquare, Dbanj etc revolutionized the music industry with higher quality music that was a fusion of hip hop and Nigerian pop music. Their music made Nigerian music to take over the Nigerian airwaves and became mainstream in Nigeria, Africa and the world. In Blacky's era, Nigerian musicians just came and went. They never dominated the airwaves all over Nigeria
Well said from a fan of everything Afrobeats i second you in everything you said well done !!
OMG....I love love this take. This brother is smart. God bless!
You're wiser than many O.Gs that had been talking rubbish bout Eedris. Thank you for the analogy
This guy is an intelligent man. In fact it started in the 80s with a lot of young artists then trying to break international. It was the Sakomo by Remedies that lay the strongest foundation for what is happening now. Kenny Ogungbe and DY were the strongest foundation promoters that started it.
Super intelligent hommie. You broke it down to the granolas for the dummies who arrogantly feel they are self-made in the industry. Kudos bro
Afrobeat began with Fela who created it.Why is he not in this conversation?
No time is the right time my brother. You make the time right for yourself. Am a fan of wiz and davido, but it's still unfair to say burna boy came into the scene when the time is right. He has been horning his craft since 2014. And consistency had no choice than to smile at him
FINALLY ... someone finally acknowledges weird mc's contribution as a pioneer of afrobeat
You can tell that Burna Boy has gotten under the skin of this young man, and it pains him to actually say something good about him. If Burna Boy was thrash, no one would be talking about him. Burna is a genius, and he's doing stuff that most Nigerian artists would only see it in their dreams, and there comes jealousy, which is a human condition. Nothing but to the moon for Burna and stop all these ego talk. Nonsensical Nonsense.
Love him it hate him, Eedris sure knows how to trend.
A VERY INTELLIGENT GUY.. KUDOS
This dude is super intelligent. Damn!!
I don't agree with the argument that wizkid and David's albums had to struggle for burna boy's album to succeed. Burna boy's album could also have struggled too. Let's don't undermine the fact that butna's album had to succeed because he put in the work. Nothing is a fluke, burna was consistent with his craft, dating back to 2014.
Absolutely. In this discussion, he never once mentioned the hard work and talent that enables Burna to thrive today. He keeps going on with this, paving the way banter, which is borderline myopic and ridiculous. Be mediocre and come out and tell us about this paving the way BS. Give Burna his flowers and move on......
Nigeria music goes way beyond the 1990s. The 90s played a pivotal part, but it surely wasn't the origins for what our music industry is today. There's been too many journeys even deeper than the 90s, 80s, 70s etc etc.
Big up you brother for the breakdown I wish they would understand the way you do 🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is common sense tho..Bless you bro..
Top analyst 👍... speaking facts.
Exactly my position..kudos ❤❤❤❤
Thank you for digesting the truth
I knew i could count on pulse to break it down & give context to it.
Excellent.
No man is an island & maybe like u said every1 just misunderstood themselves compounded by ego problems.
How i like to describe it is, Afrobeats is like a skyscraper, for it to stand its foundation had to be dug deep. While that foundation was built by the likes of Eedris, Remedies & people before that era too.
Presently we are building the skyscraper, & this isnt even its peak yet.
So yes its just lack of understanding, by some stars. Eedris did pave the way, though maybe his mannerism & words was what angered Burna Boy.
But I think with time every1 will understand that the movement is bigger than any artist personal ego.
Credits should be giving to the OGs, not taking away credit from the present stars. Every1 is just contributing their bricks to the massive skyscraper
It all started in the 80s. People have started mixing local languages and Pidgin with foreign and local elements. The first Nigerian song to ever infuse rap was Alex O's 'Celebration'. This was way before Junior and Pretty. People also forget to recognize the efforts of people like Blakky, Mike Okri. Mike Okri and likes of Alex O have been doing Afro pop music which i believe influenced, Plantashun Boiz, Remedies and so on.
For me i think the real pioneers of this present mainstream pop music are people like Emma Ogosi down to Alex O, Mike Okri, Blakky etc. before the likes if Junior and Pretty, to The Remedies and plantashun Boys. The history may not have documented in writing but the recorded songs and events are already been archiver, it's just for u to do ur research
At the end of the day let's give credit to the veterans.
Burna Boy is an Afro-fusion artiste!
that's the genre in which his songs are released on.
Maybe Edris.... Paved the way for Afrobeats artistes.
You are 100th percent correct 💯
You are very intelligent it so sad that indomine generation can never understand
Baba well done, you said it all
But we have people before Edris if you are below 32 years downward do not even talk about this, Edris himself did he acknowledge people before him? The analyzer is just a sympathizer. Fela Kuti, Dr. Alban, Lagbaja, Tony Allen, Mike Okri, and so many Hits Songs.
how many of these musicians you mentioned were rappers? the only rapper I could think of back then was Blackky and their style is very different
I agree with the fact that the OG's paved the way. But I still would not agree to the position that wizkid and davido had to test their sound for burna. Burna's sound is totally different from those two
You are all wrong!!!! Nigerian pop music (Afrobeats or Akarabeats) started in the days of Kris Okotie, Onyeka Onwenu, Jide Obi, Felix Lebarty, Ofege (St. Gregory's college band), Dizzy K. Falola, Mandy Brown Ojugbana, Stella Monye, Blakky and the rest. The 90s stars were of the second generation movement. If you don't acknowledge the stars mentioned here you know nothing about Nigerian music.
U hit it💯
Junior and Pretty, Daddy fresh, Daddy Showkey, Orits Wiliki and many others
Do the Rooftop MCs feature among the notable names?
Majek, Mike okri… these guys did tours abroad ooo, fela the king, was before these guys. The issue with Eedris is his mannerism, and don’t think Burna will react the way he does if not for the energy given to him too.
The Nigerian pop songs that paved the way were Kris Okotie's "I NEED SOMEONE" and Ofege's "WISILABO". Know your history and know peace.
True talk
You're brilliant with your analysis but Eedris has no right to bully every young artist as though their wasn't other artists that pave the way for him. He's had ago at 2face, PSquare, Timaya, WizKid, Divido and the list goes on.
BURNA BOY HAS NEVER SAID NO ONE INFLUENCED OR INSPIRED HIM! He has always hailed the influence of the likes of FELA & TUFACE in his music. Mostly Nigerian indigenous sounds. Y’all just hate that man there because Nigerian mentality naturally is always entitlement! This was the same man they slandered and rejected Lol. Success is sweet indeed
Ok am a burna boy fan and I accept now eedris de wave paver
Eedris paved way but ppl also did for him too. I think Burna contribution now is a pace setter which is different from way paver. He is setting a pace that is the height afrobeats can reach as a modern African artist/rock star. Everyone get role for this Afrobeats to the world journey. Everyone including the women.
I have never seen or heard Burna boy disrespect or deny the likes of Fela , Dbanj, KSA, WASIU , Tony One week , FATAI rolling dollar … and the rest OGs.
We have seen these videos on the internet.
Burna Boy will only come for you if you come for him… look at his s track records.
You don’t see other OGs chatting shit about entitlement,… why is EEDRIS different?
Afar, make everybody rest, e no get who do something way no work with the benefits of the past efforts but unto person journey na him know wetin e face. If e no see help way give am head start com say nobody make am happen for am. They are both right because na perspective
This is not a semantic issue. First and foremost, u need to find out from the author of the statement what exactly they were trying to convey. Aside that, u have no right to fault other people’s views on the message.
U have the right to interpret it the way u want.
Again, only the author can tell what he meant
U gog it all right ✅ b
smart dude.
Wowwww 👏🏾
PULSE ARE BEEFING BURNA BOY BECAUSE HE CALLED THEM OUT FOR ALWAYS SAY SHIT ABOUT HIM. Una for call him name na, make him sue una 😂😂 FEAR FEAR 😂😂😂 PULSE
Interesting to highlight the similarities between Burna Boy and Eedris Abdulkareem 😂
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Too much sense
What if the artist do not feel influenced by the original *Afrobeat * OGs ?? Can we still say Dey helped ?
Now ask ur self, did he create his own sound? If our music wasn't commercial at the time, he might not even consider doing music at all and credits should go to guys who made it commercial before you came.
Are you aware he has a diamond of Fela on his neck, man is sampling Fela sound back to back
@@abayomioloyinde im talking abt Idris
@@intelliquick2639 I get you, and it's totally fine to feel like that, but the buttom line is if some people didn't not walk a path before you, you probably will not know the path exist, think about it
You know ball 💯
I continue to disagree with a lot of u that the afrobeats started in d 90s....this narrative to me is wrong and it simply eradicates d efforts of d true pioneers. All d OGs u guys are mentioning today actually followed on d footsteps of the those who pioneered by singing afro-pop. Afrobeat today started as afro pop of d early 80s...We have d likes of Dizzy K Falola, Chris Okotie, Felix Liberty, Mandy Brown Ojugbana and Alex O. These were trues superstars and they lives and fashioned their music after d US and UK pop stars of the 80s. They were signed under international labels too. And some of them had shows outside the country. Their voices are silent now because many of them have turned born-again or are pastors now. The OGs of the 90s are d second level pioneers Pls. I want anybody to come out to disprove this.
U said it all
I for one luv burna music but he is too full of him self because those before him pave the way for WizKid David burna nd many others just as WizKid davido burna boy re na also pavein the way for new artists
Smell a little hate for Burna. Dude hustle and build himself this big and you all wanna take his credit. Being inspired is different from Pavin a way
Burna boy WizKid davido re paving way for the new once same way people before WizKid davido burna boy pave the way for them
Lol, so why aren't all artistes doing a successful genre successful?
You guys just come out to say things that don't make no sense
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A lot of educated illiterates in Nigeria .You lack context to begin with.burna boy saying “no one paved the way for him” he was alluding to the people that was demeaning his success by saying his success was by luck and naming people for the reason for his success. this journalist is getting paid to yap nonsense. I have to respect his hustle.
Na you need education if you can not digest what he say then maybe primary school is where you need to start from
Your are just on your own. So you are listening with your nose. So all the things he said is not sinking in .
@@PrinceOvOpp so taking burna boy out of context to make a point is right to you?. Well I forgot fools think alike
Talking about about educated fools you are perfect example.
@@bensonodei009 I forgot am on a RUclips page of people that lack critical thinking.continue to live in your shame
this one just dey yarn rubbish. if u no get talent if them like make dey use caterpillar clear way for you, you'll go no where
You are writing rubbish!, the man is speaking English and not in French.