VR was a crazy experience that made me think about life differently. I started questioning reality and thinking about consciousness. VR literally changed my life and was a life changing experience.
Just 5 years from this talk, my recommendations have blown up with multiple other talks explaining how it's actually already happened, and it's *us* in fact.
Can I please see the source information that gave you the idea that these types of pharmaceuticals are actually in development? What I found on the subject is this , www.businessinsider.com/drugs-alter-prisoners-perception-of-time-2014-8 , which clearly states that what you seem to be talking about is merely the idea of a singular individual named Rebecca Roache, a 'philosopher' at Oxford University who is not a pharmaceutical scientist or person in any kind of position with the power to make this a reality.
Here is an excerpt from the article in case you don't read it since you don't seem to fancy googling before blindly spreading misinformation, thereby undermining the universally respected commenting integrity of your everyday household 'RUclipsr' (Best known for their keen intellect and swift 'viral' spreading of factual information). "Roache envisions a future where we can use chemicals to manipulate an inmates sense of time. Through these chemicals, a criminal could be made to feel like she or he is spending 1,000 years in jail, even though the person might only be in jail for days or months or a year. Roache is "a philosopher, not a scientist," and she's "not in charge of anyone." While it's her job to contemplate some macabre, controversial ideas, none of the ideas presented here are actually in development. They're just ideas."
+BluthBoys wow. some really scary drug . Can be used on criminals to punish them for real murder = 100 years in solitary confinement but only 30 mins irl. Itachi Tsukuyomi 😃
I bet this guy looked so crazy in front of those people but he is so right about everything. If I were a billionaire, I would be investing all my money on virtual reality right now. Gathering a bunch of brilliant programmers and 3d artists and designers to start working on the matrix.
I want real virtuality but something like matrix type, but its not possible until our brain will be mapped to get all information for device that will be controling our virtual body. Whole problem is that we need to somehow make device that will be able to fit into helmet or something it would not cost 1000 dollars or more and it will be capable to scan whole your brain processes in matter of miliseconds. If this will be possible a real imersion of VR would be a thing. Until then current VR is just a joke its funny to play with but its not real VR.
Well they will lose their meaning anyway in future ... as technology keeps getting better we will be better if we are not going to destroy planet first.
We're still needing a killer app to make VR really take off. Most examples like the brain surgeon or architect using VR are only applicable to a few and one still has to wonder what more the VR/AR has to offer that is wildly beyond looking at a Chilton's repair manual while fixing your car or whatever. The other thing is that like any new tech, there has to be enough content providers and developers to provide the apps. I mean, all the apps that are shown just don't appear because you put on a headset and as a developer, developing for the various brands of AR/VR without a standard is going to be as crazy as it was during the 90s browser wars.
The truth is that We actually living in it but only few aware of it we need to live out of it to keep what matters to live journey in life & other life intact .
So essentially we'll have everything we ever wanted and desired through VR. To have everything and nothing at the same. This is really a dream... having no desires and loving everything must be the way out of this Paradox
+Nukelover But how would you fully simulate an environment? You need to simulate your virtual body, all the grass and chairs and dogs and water, all the atoms and laws of physics. We would need more capable designers and programmers than humans currently can provide. Of course, human mind expansion (another Kurzweil concept) might be the solution, and i think that will happen either with the singularity or a bit before it. Either way, 20-30 years i think. Cant wait.
EpicMRPancake You wouldn't need to simulate every atom. Not even close. Even Kurzweil doesn't go that far. You don't see most of reality, and much of what you experience is literally a pile of tricks and illusions inherited from our ancestors. We need a great deal more computational power, but not really actual ASI. Not even AGI, really. Given enough computational horsepower, the neural nets and human designers we have right now could probably team up to do a decent job of it. Remember: petaflops don't equal intelligence on their own.
It might work for some instances but they would be limited because the less you simulate, the more likely the player will notice something incongruent with reality. Sure, you could have a lighting engine that simulates every photon just as in real life, but what if you pick up an item and it doesn't bend like it should? Or what if you eat something but you dont taste it because your tastebuds aren't properly simulated?
I don't remember the name of the theory right now, but it's already been shown that you can't "fully" simulate (i.e. down to the finest grain of reality) anything on a different substrate. But so what? It just needs to be good enough. Even the Matrix, which I take to be the gold standard against which we are gauging any simulation, wasn't perfect. Further, as I've said, even the simulation running in your head isn't perfect. More to the point, admitting that some scheme may not be perfect isn't really an argument for how an ASI is required to reach perfection. It is assuming a lot, really. For one thing, you haven't established how living a glitchy simulation would actually break our suspension of disbelief when we routinely suspend disbelief with lesser simulations, such as current media.
Good overall description of potential VR tech. Even, as some suggest, if we are in a Simulation as articulated by the Bostrom, creating many other simulations has accessible and impressive has our own would be fracking exhilarating.
So true! I totally agree. VR ins't bound to space, time, mass and we can have infinite number of VR worlds that interact, learn and expand through the infinite experiences and knowledge...love to try it:))
Many people are negative towards VR and a future where a lot of our interaction/life takes place inside VR. But these people clearly forgot that with Immersive-VR we can literally go to Hogwarts and start practicing magic. Like legit.
The deaf could hear , the disabled would "walk" ( experience walking) , educational possibilities depression treatment. Let's say you re depressed. You'd literally go to your happy place.happy places for everybody.
If anyone is serious about building the matrix, start researching Peripheral Neural Interfaces...this is not uncommon in various University BME Departments...
If it is possible to feel my entire body in a dream, it must also be possible that all that's happening is a dream....? My values are breaking down due to the simulation theory but I want to see where it will go.
The concept of money would collapse there. I'd be rich. Imagine this. You want to go skiing in the alps. In physical reality you have to go there,buy plane tickets,book hotels, spend money for equipment and access.imagine now VR so powerful that could fool ALL senses. Even sense of movement and acceleration. Imagine bypassing the skin nerves to replicate touch. You'd only need a game developer.tell him what you want to experience and boom , you re on the Alpes, you re swimming in the Greek islan
Christopher Johnston I think we do as well. More complicated than we could imagine, but I'm one who thinks we do. It's more fun thinking that way as well.
This is scary but imagine this. Like a line in input for the brain. Stick a cable and intercept all signals. Want to be in a beach.boom done. Feel the water.done. Feel the air done.touch a rock.sense hot or cold.not just seeing in vr. Vr now is virtual vision. And still uses signal-screens-light-eye- signal again . You d still need to preserve your body ( brain) and pay for power an maintenance but you could live ...there. You wouldn't need money there,want a car.download one.
I'd only need to buy the computer data and code and install it on my personal matrix computer. Like expensive cars DLC , or swimming DLC, and then learn to design the environment.wnat more trees? Boom, no trees boom , want sea without waves boom, want more waves to sur,done. Want to make a (driveable) rolls Royce appear? Done. Just put the files to the "pc".the more accurate the more real.youd pay only the "game dev" to design what you want.youd still need the physical body though, to maintain
To maintain your brain. And you d need money for electricity, computer maintenance and ,to an extent, real food. You d be tethered to bio- physical. ( but even if we achieved brain in a jar state, you'd still need the physical brain. If this guy could transfer consciousness to a computer and on top of that add this kind of VR , we d live on the computer and experience whatever you want.
little info. If we had a quantum Computer we could make a Matrix there ^^ Bereits a Strange from my life a long time ago i wanted to Watch the first Matrix movie so i've downloaded a movie called Matrix internet was slow in those times and downloading stuff was not really illegal it was all new so back to the story i waited almost the whole day for the file download once it was finished i open'd the file and after some time watiching i was surprised because it was a fake file and the movie wasss "Fightclub" not Matrix so i just was angry and watched really pissed off the Fightclub movie and i started a new download and hoped it's this time the real Matrix movie and i gone sleeping and then i had a strange dream. In that dream i was in old creepy house all of sudden a white cat came i saw the cat moving by then i noticed the cat suddenly glitched and moved again by like in the movie i've gone up the stairs, Up the the stairs was a room and in that room was a guy sitting there so i moved cl0ser to him he said to me his name it was Morpheus he showed me two pills... now guess which pill i took :)
+Figa Peck I noticed that too. Unfortunate wording... public speaking is lots of pressure.. Anyways what he was probably meaning to say is that a nanometre compares in size to a metre the same way that a marble compares in size to the earth
Well.....ok,great speaker,well spoken,good presentation,now someone plz tell us about the cons?Side effects?Mind Control?Memories erased even fabrication?Military application? Is this a Jurassic park moment where we rush to create without considering "IF" we should create or to manipulate ?
Money would collapse in full body and full senses presence. I wouldn't need to buy the physical thing if I could supplement all senses. I don't need all the food I eat only the flavor. I don't need air conditioning unless I'm overheating at least. But I need the sense of cool air. I could be lying on a table but experience breakfast on the presidential suite of the Plaza.i d stop caring about my real environment.my body would be in a crappy room but I'd be experiencing all fun things. Like DLC
We DO live in the Matrix! You are most certainly living in a virtual reality simulation. But it exists in Something that is much more than a "computer." And if you want to know more details, including exactly WHY you are experiencing a virtual reality simulation rather than Absolute Reality, read my book "The Holy Grail is Found" (available through Amazon).
what if ?? we already live in a matrix.. think about it.. we and everything around us, are made o lego pieces..(atoms) that barrier has started to be broken.. whats next ?? nice talk.. he is a boy who thinks a lot.!
if you have brain implants you would not know the difference between real life and vr, eventually it is still years away . however, technology will go there for sure.
Wonder how many VR dorks they will find expired after the first few months, mostly from exposure. "Today in other news. Another 20 something found dead in his apartment. Apparently he had not taken any REAL food or water for days if not weeks. VR strikes again folks, do you know what your kids are doing?:]"
VR was a crazy experience that made me think about life differently. I started questioning reality and thinking about consciousness. VR literally changed my life and was a life changing experience.
In ten or twenty years this talk is going to be as funny as 90's era videos about the internet, mark my words.
You're probably right
Imagine nervgear becoming reality
No... It won't be. It already exists. I can assure you that "The Matrix" is real... except it's actually called "Rube".
Just 5 years from this talk, my recommendations have blown up with multiple other talks explaining how it's actually already happened, and it's *us* in fact.
What about time? Can vr make ten minutes feel like ten years? That would truly be revolutionary
Can I please see the source information that gave you the idea that these types of pharmaceuticals are actually in development? What I found on the subject is this , www.businessinsider.com/drugs-alter-prisoners-perception-of-time-2014-8 , which clearly states that what you seem to be talking about is merely the idea of a singular individual named Rebecca Roache, a 'philosopher' at Oxford University who is not a pharmaceutical scientist or person in any kind of position with the power to make this a reality.
Here is an excerpt from the article in case you don't read it since you don't seem to fancy googling before blindly spreading misinformation, thereby undermining the universally respected commenting integrity of your everyday household 'RUclipsr' (Best known for their keen intellect and swift 'viral' spreading of factual information).
"Roache envisions a future where we can use chemicals to manipulate an inmates sense of time.
Through these chemicals, a criminal could be made to feel like she or he is spending 1,000 years in jail,
even though the person might only be in jail for days or months or a year.
Roache is "a philosopher, not a scientist," and she's "not in charge of anyone." While it's her job to contemplate some macabre,
controversial ideas, none of the ideas presented here are actually in development. They're just ideas."
+BluthBoys wow. some really scary drug . Can be used on criminals to punish them for real murder = 100 years in solitary confinement but only 30 mins irl. Itachi Tsukuyomi 😃
Justin Modessa No but drugs can. Would it be so hard to integrate the two?
Duhhh just fast forward the game lul
imagine how refreshed you'd feel taking a month long vacation in full-dive VR, that in reality only took an hour!
I won't ask for a beach. Just let me pretend I slept for ten hours when I sleep only five.
Not possible with our biological brains, the speed of thought is far too slow. Once Moravec transfers are a thing, then we'll talk.
wow u would have so much time studying for last minute exams too lol
So basically VR is what you are when you are a spirit manifesting his or her own reality. Cool
I bet this guy looked so crazy in front of those people but he is so right about everything. If I were a billionaire, I would be investing all my money on virtual reality right now. Gathering a bunch of brilliant programmers and 3d artists and designers to start working on the matrix.
As would I. I would be the Elon Musk of vr.
I want real virtuality but something like matrix type, but its not possible until our brain will be mapped to get all information for device that will be controling our virtual body.
Whole problem is that we need to somehow make device that will be able to fit into helmet or something it would not cost 1000 dollars or more and it will be capable to scan whole your brain processes in matter of miliseconds. If this will be possible a real imersion of VR would be a thing. Until then current VR is just a joke its funny to play with but its not real VR.
I think if we create a matrix like vr simulation, money will lose its meaning, everyone will be a trillionaire
Well they will lose their meaning anyway in future ... as technology keeps getting better we will be better if we are not going to destroy planet first.
What an astonishing vision!
“Soon this will feel like a distant dream. Until then, may you rest in a deep and dreamless slumber”
We're still needing a killer app to make VR really take off. Most examples like the brain surgeon or architect using VR are only applicable to a few and one still has to wonder what more the VR/AR has to offer that is wildly beyond looking at a Chilton's repair manual while fixing your car or whatever. The other thing is that like any new tech, there has to be enough content providers and developers to provide the apps. I mean, all the apps that are shown just don't appear because you put on a headset and as a developer, developing for the various brands of AR/VR without a standard is going to be as crazy as it was during the 90s browser wars.
The truth is that We actually living in it but only few aware of it we need to live out of it to keep what matters to live journey in life & other life intact .
So essentially we'll have everything we ever wanted and desired through VR. To have everything and nothing at the same. This is really a dream... having no desires and loving everything must be the way out of this Paradox
Interesting, but most of what he brought up didn't require him to invoke the Singularity. I suspect we can achieve full sensory immersion without ASI.
+Nukelover But how would you fully simulate an environment? You need to simulate your virtual body, all the grass and chairs and dogs and water, all the atoms and laws of physics. We would need more capable designers and programmers than humans currently can provide. Of course, human mind expansion (another Kurzweil concept) might be the solution, and i think that will happen either with the singularity or a bit before it. Either way, 20-30 years i think. Cant wait.
EpicMRPancake You wouldn't need to simulate every atom. Not even close. Even Kurzweil doesn't go that far. You don't see most of reality, and much of what you experience is literally a pile of tricks and illusions inherited from our ancestors. We need a great deal more computational power, but not really actual ASI. Not even AGI, really. Given enough computational horsepower, the neural nets and human designers we have right now could probably team up to do a decent job of it. Remember: petaflops don't equal intelligence on their own.
It might work for some instances but they would be limited because the less you simulate, the more likely the player will notice something incongruent with reality. Sure, you could have a lighting engine that simulates every photon just as in real life, but what if you pick up an item and it doesn't bend like it should? Or what if you eat something but you dont taste it because your tastebuds aren't properly simulated?
I don't remember the name of the theory right now, but it's already been shown that you can't "fully" simulate (i.e. down to the finest grain of reality) anything on a different substrate. But so what? It just needs to be good enough. Even the Matrix, which I take to be the gold standard against which we are gauging any simulation, wasn't perfect. Further, as I've said, even the simulation running in your head isn't perfect. More to the point, admitting that some scheme may not be perfect isn't really an argument for how an ASI is required to reach perfection. It is assuming a lot, really. For one thing, you haven't established how living a glitchy simulation would actually break our suspension of disbelief when we routinely suspend disbelief with lesser simulations, such as current media.
Nukelover Well said, alright i agree with you.
I'm crazy enough to get brain implants for mixed reality. Get me a cortical implant setup that never rejects or scars over, and I'm down.
+CorvidDude Same. Fuck being cautious, let's have fun.
I'm fucking down for it also, fuck reality, let's be gods in VR/AR
Any else here looking for matrix content?
whatever the future might be: it sure is one scary ass place.
I'm going to create a world called ass place, and it won't be scary at all.
That was awesome.
are ya winning son?
The future is terrifying but im excited.
I mean, imagine ir we could choose how we look and what kind of world we live in?
great ideas + love
Good overall description of potential VR tech. Even, as some suggest, if we are in a Simulation as articulated by the Bostrom, creating many other simulations has accessible and impressive has our own would be fracking exhilarating.
So true! I totally agree. VR ins't bound to space, time, mass and we can have infinite number of VR worlds that interact, learn and expand through the infinite experiences and knowledge...love to try it:))
Many people are negative towards VR and a future where a lot of our interaction/life takes place inside VR. But these people clearly forgot that with Immersive-VR we can literally go to Hogwarts and start practicing magic. Like legit.
once immersed in vr ... people will not want to exit... no way no how.
So cool
The guy just retold us two or three waitbutwy posts.
The deaf could hear , the disabled would "walk" ( experience walking) , educational possibilities depression treatment. Let's say you re depressed. You'd literally go to your happy place.happy places for everybody.
I can't wait to thrash Morty's Roy score!
If anyone is serious about building the matrix, start researching Peripheral Neural Interfaces...this is not uncommon in various University BME Departments...
If it is possible to feel my entire body in a dream, it must also be possible that all that's happening is a dream....?
My values are breaking down due to the simulation theory but I want to see where it will go.
The concept of money would collapse there. I'd be rich. Imagine this. You want to go skiing in the alps. In physical reality you have to go there,buy plane tickets,book hotels, spend money for equipment and access.imagine now VR so powerful that could fool ALL senses. Even sense of movement and acceleration. Imagine bypassing the skin nerves to replicate touch. You'd only need a game developer.tell him what you want to experience and boom , you re on the Alpes, you re swimming in the Greek islan
you are going down a very dangerous road !
what if we already live in the matrix
Christopher Johnston I think we do as well. More complicated than we could imagine, but I'm one who thinks we do. It's more fun thinking that way as well.
Oh snap
I want a refund.
I hope it comes out in 2030
cosmo I love you and you are dope
This is scary but imagine this. Like a line in input for the brain. Stick a cable and intercept all signals. Want to be in a beach.boom done. Feel the water.done. Feel the air done.touch a rock.sense hot or cold.not just seeing in vr. Vr now is virtual vision. And still uses signal-screens-light-eye- signal again . You d still need to preserve your body ( brain) and pay for power an maintenance but you could live ...there. You wouldn't need money there,want a car.download one.
Mortality, what do we do about Mortality. After all this
What if were already living in a Matrix?
I feel we are and from my research theres different levels to this matrix after consciousness leaves this reality at 'death.'
I'd only need to buy the computer data and code and install it on my personal matrix computer. Like expensive cars DLC , or swimming DLC, and then learn to design the environment.wnat more trees? Boom, no trees boom , want sea without waves boom, want more waves to sur,done. Want to make a (driveable) rolls Royce appear? Done. Just put the files to the "pc".the more accurate the more real.youd pay only the "game dev" to design what you want.youd still need the physical body though, to maintain
To maintain your brain. And you d need money for electricity, computer maintenance and ,to an extent, real food. You d be tethered to bio- physical. ( but even if we achieved brain in a jar state, you'd still need the physical brain. If this guy could transfer consciousness to a computer and on top of that add this kind of VR , we d live on the computer and experience whatever you want.
little info. If we had a quantum Computer we could make a Matrix there ^^ Bereits a Strange from my life a long time ago i wanted to Watch the first Matrix movie so i've downloaded a movie called Matrix internet was slow in those times and downloading stuff was not really illegal it was all new so back to the story i waited almost the whole day for the file download once it was finished i open'd the file and after some time watiching i was surprised because it was a fake file and the movie wasss "Fightclub" not Matrix so i just was angry and watched really pissed off the Fightclub movie and i started a new download and hoped it's this time the real Matrix movie and i gone sleeping and then i had a strange dream. In that dream i was in old creepy house all of sudden a white cat came i saw the cat moving by then i noticed the cat suddenly glitched and moved again by like in the movie i've gone up the stairs, Up the the stairs was a room and in that room was a guy sitting there so i moved cl0ser to him he said to me his name it was Morpheus he showed me two pills... now guess which pill i took :)
"if we shrunk the earth to one metre, one nanometre would be the size of a marble" - wtf? - that makes no sense.
+Figa Peck I noticed that too. Unfortunate wording... public speaking is lots of pressure.. Anyways what he was probably meaning to say is that a nanometre compares in size to a metre the same way that a marble compares in size to the earth
+DJR Yes the Earth is about a gigamarble in diameter .
Daulton Baird Gigamarble huh? I like that. Maybe when we discover new planets we could define their respective diameters in gigamarbles..
What could be more fun than sticking computers in our brains ?
Imagine what this could do for poor people or depressed people, or
he should read iain m banks or asimov
11:51
IT IS BETTER CALLED VIRTUAL SEMI-REALITY
.. Like DLC on a video game
this guy sounds like a supervillain
But I'm against it because they'll abuse it and use it against us
Soon you'll have a 2D waifu!
Or patients with disabilities. Imagine a tetraplegic that could experience walking and running in this deep VR state. TH
Well.....ok,great speaker,well spoken,good presentation,now someone plz tell us about the cons?Side effects?Mind Control?Memories erased even fabrication?Military application? Is this a Jurassic park moment where we rush to create without considering "IF" we should create or to manipulate ?
Money would collapse in full body and full senses presence. I wouldn't need to buy the physical thing if I could supplement all senses. I don't need all the food I eat only the flavor. I don't need air conditioning unless I'm overheating at least. But I need the sense of cool air. I could be lying on a table but experience breakfast on the presidential suite of the Plaza.i d stop caring about my real environment.my body would be in a crappy room but I'd be experiencing all fun things. Like DLC
spyrmac i was thinking the same thing
So you d be able to experience anything you wanted for free. Fly swim drive a rolls Royce . That needs all senses though
We DO live in the Matrix! You are most certainly living in a virtual reality simulation. But it exists in Something that is much more than a "computer." And if you want to know more details, including exactly WHY you are experiencing a virtual reality simulation rather than Absolute Reality, read my book "The Holy Grail is Found" (available through Amazon).
ASI= Creator
what if ?? we already live in a matrix.. think about it.. we and everything around us, are made o lego pieces..(atoms) that barrier has started to be broken.. whats next ?? nice talk.. he is a boy who thinks a lot.!
YAH, BUT YOU CAN ONLY SEE AND HEAR, BUT CANNOT FEEL, TASTE, AND SMELL SOMETHING....
if you have brain implants you would not know the difference between real life and vr, eventually it is still years away . however, technology will go there for sure.
Wonder how many VR dorks they will find expired after the first few months, mostly from exposure. "Today in other news. Another 20 something found dead in his apartment. Apparently he had not taken any REAL food or water for days if not weeks. VR strikes again folks, do you know what your kids are doing?:]"
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