I have just stumbled upon the mixed reality idea and looking up different solutions. This method of modifying the actual 3D model is absolutely genious. Did'nt even think that was possible. Great idea!
What we all dream of...only downside is that I am stuck with one aircraft type for use with Mixed Reality (pass-through). Of course you can make multiple cockpits, but not many of us have the time, space and money...and patience/understanding from partners. Still, this is about the ultimate FS experience, only to be improved with full-motion for the cockpit and force feedback on controls.
@@davidmuir6849that sounds amazing, I bet having it built into a real cessna cockpit was as close to real as it gets! I was going to go for the 3 monitor set up, but space and cost (and performance) kinda pushed me towards vr
This is extremely practical for training. You get the tactile reinforcement. Impressive. I know what kind of effort it takes to get this all working together.
Brilliant. I mentioned this in my early Mixed Reality video but didn’t know how to modify the model. Could you do a step by step video on the process of creating and modifying an aircraft to include the color keyed panel replacement?
Your video was the one that inspired me to try the mixed reality cockpit in the first place! This was the video I used to add the custom model, it's quite an involved process and I'm not sure I could make a video that was any clearer ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman
@@FlyingTheston Thaanks....I'll check it out. I really found your early scenery creation tutorials helpful. This approach is the best DIY implementation of MR I've seen. Realitry Mixer is just too difficult to get setup and aligned. I also prefer VDXR too and no steamVR overhead. What is really needed is a plugin that could interject the color keyed object into the cockpit and to resize and align it. Perhaps a .obj modeled in Tinkercad so that anyone could create it without much skill. This is definately the future,
@@FlyingTheston You bet! I would love to see more of yours as well! How is the readability of the instruments from air manager? Is the Quest 3 passthrough sharp enough? I am planning to use an external camera ( Stereolabs Zed Mini) attached to a Bigscreen Beyond.
@@jonmabecThe readability of the instruments is "fine" as much as in I can read them for the most part, but small details on them is just lost. Like I'd never read the kollsman window. But for the most part, its all fine, I can see what I need to see and I have the altimeter dial set up so when I press it, it just sets the altimeter to whatever atc says.
OMG you're back!!!!! Let me please say thank you thank you so much for all your fantastic videos that have helped me making content for MSFS 2020 and/or learn more about the sim. Ohh and uhm.. "we" need to know how to insert an active marshaller to a helipad :D
glad you're making content with help from my videos! I've not touched the SDK in quite some time to make anything new, they kept making so many changes to it that it became hard to keep up to date with!
I loved that you made this video at Wellsbourne Mountford, then I saw the channel name and thought, where else would he fly from 🙂 Your Airfield has never looked better. Nice job on the cockpit and Airfield 😎🤘
@@FlyingThestonhi great video, definitely the way to go. I’ve just recently bought a quest 3 for the purpose of mixed reality. I believe VR Desktop is what you used is this software only good if you are running your headset wireless? I have my quest 3 tethered via the oculus cable. Do you also need to purchase Mixed Reality software? I want to do exactly how you’ve set up but not shure if it makes a difference mine being tethered. Sorry I hope I make sense. Gary
@@garysaunders1714 I'm not sure how you'd go about getting it to work with a Quest 3 tethered, because even things like Reality Mixer would need VirtualDesktop as they don't have access to the quest cameras via steam vr.
@@FlyingTheston thanks for your reply, running your vr headset wireless do you find you get good fps still? I read somewhere you need fast internet and wifi 6 router. Thanks
@@garysaunders1714 you don't need fast internet, but you do need at least a 5Ghz router (most routers are these days) and you do really need your computer connected to the router via an ethernet cable (1Gb connection too)
Very nice, I will try to modify an model myself and get an pink box to get my stremdeck visible in vr, do you have a link to an good video on how to modify the airplane model in msfs?
If you're just using steam vr then I definitely recommend looking at reality mixer on steam. If you're using vdxr like me then you'll need to do the custom model thing. I'll dig out the RUclips video I watched and link to it
Ok here are some of the links you may find useful: This is the Reality Mixer for steam: ruclips.net/video/Q0brsVwi20Q/видео.html&ab_channel=RussBarlow And this is the video I followed for injecting a blender model into another plane model: ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman
This was the video I followed ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman and I'm not sure if I could do a video any clearer... The process is quite clunky and hard to follow, but it is what it is, just needs patience and perseverance. I'm happy to provide the cockpit gtlf for my JPL C152 if anyone would like it though :)
Look lad, you want to stay away from those fragrance moisturisers, they're just going to dry out your skin and cause irritation. If you're genuinely serious about good skin care then have you considered toilet duck? It's just a question to you, don't get defensive or anything
If generating the pass through mask could be generated automatically this would work really nicely with any of the Experimental Sim Avionics panel sets using Air Manager. You could fly many different aircraft in MR using that combination.
Yeah, my version is super basic, just a big block of pink across the whole cockpit dash... It would be great if custom plane models came with a "passthrough" cockpit so you could just choose that livery or something and get it all without having to mess about.
Fantastic idea, sadly the pop out panels won't work anymore when MSFS is in VR mode otherwise it would be a great solution for my A320 panel. Thx for this video
What an amazing enhancement for the X-plane for its drawback not utilizing the pass-through feature of the Quest 3. Could you create another video detailing the step-by-step process for implementing the pass-through modification? Especially focusing on how to seamlessly integrate the pink block into the aircraft model. Maybe Laminar Research should consider bringing you on board to make this a reality in X-plane officially!
This is for Microsoft Flight Simulator, not X-Plane. I'm sure you could do something similar on X-Plane but I'm not sure if the steps would be the same.
FANTASTIC STUFF!!! A tutorial on creating the 3d model & import would be MUCH appreciated. Now I've got to dust off the panel I removed when I switched to VR! :D
I'd honestly recommend SimXR rkapps.shop/products/simxr over my approach of the custom model import, it's very convoluted and SimXR looks pretty easy to use for a decent price (I don't own it, nor have I used it, but it does look pretty good)
I appreciate the suggestion, but I'd like something persistent, which SimXR doesn't seem to do. Any chance you have any links / tutorials / anything that might start me down the path of inserting an object into MSFS? To see what I'm up to search the MS Forums for "Piper Arrow Build". Thanks in advance!!
@@tangocharlie9291 this was the tutorial I followed ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.htmlsi=StNzfkPLMnoSEcz9 But it is quite involved and a lot of trial and error was required on my part
I bought and have tried SimXR. Unfortunately it’s unstable, hard to size, doesn’t save between sessions and the window moves whenever I lift my headset. :/ I wonder if a VERY simple object can be created to block the panel. Kinda like a sheet of magenta paper floating in front of the panel…?
This is really cool. Are you able to make the pass-through version of the C152 model available for download? I tried to modify the existing model, but Blender won't let me load any models with DDS textures.
I've added links to the video description: This is a zip file of the two files I modified in the JPL152 modded version of the Cessna152: drive.google.com/file/d/1-A3VfZwpQ-lz4IWhWELiAO7_y1yTXLwZ/ (You need to extract into your jpl folder e.g. [Community\jplogistics-aircraft-c152\SimObjects\Airplanes\JPL_C152\model])
@@FlyingTheston Worked like a charm, thank you! Can I ask how you were able to load the original models into Blender even though they have DDS textures. I always get DDS extension not supported errors.
I got the cessna dashboard pink and the virtual desktop pass thu configured to see pink but when i press pass thru it see everything in front of me not just the cockpit? What am i doing wrong?
I'm not sure if there's anywhere that builds custom cockpits at a reasonable cost (I'm sure there are ones that cost thousands), but half the joy is in the process of making it yourself :)
Hi, now after 6 months, are you still pleased of your VR setup? Using it all the time you flight sim? Is this the FoV that you get? It seems a bit narrow, what's your opinion as a user? And what about the gauges, are they easily readable? And can you read a check list in this pass-through mode? Really cool to see this setup !
I will use my Cessna rig 8 out of 10 times I play (otherwise I'll just fly with a helicopter or an L39 and that's just for quick messing around). I definitely enjoy it more when I play with the full rig, it feels more immersive. The FoV is way better than what you see in the video because it's only recording from 1 eye and its cropped (which is why you see that black vignette around the top left), however, the FoV isn't amazing, it's decent though but it could definitely be better. Passthrough is perfectly fine to read the gauges, I can see them all with no problem (other than the small clock). I've not tried reading a paper checklist on my lap. I can read my phone just fine in passthrough through.
What if you’d only have the controls (like yoke, throttle, pedals and some basic switches) and paint the cockpit purple. Could you project the interior and the instruments on that purple hardware?
yeah technically you could, but it may not be like a perfect placement, not sure if it's overly clear in the video but everything kinda wobbles about a bit sometimes too, it's fine here because it's the whole cockpit that is in the real world, but if you tried to just cut out bits to precisely fit them into the VR world then it may look more jarring
It's custom built with a 3d printed face panel, then a couple of dials/buttons for operation with the monitor behind it that runs the right side components. If you want to build your own then I'd definitely recommend watching Captain Bob's channel, he has a video on how to build a really good radio ruclips.net/video/YGrNcZI5cK0/видео.html&ab_channel=CaptainBob
So you are blocking within the simulator what will be overlayed with the real world? Is there a way to do this the way around, defining the part of the real world which is shown?
In theory "probably", the Quest 3 has a feature coming where it can track your keyboard by recognising your keyboard and then showing passthrough on to your keyboard So it's technically possible, but what we'd need is some access to an anchor system (like QR codes or something) where you can mark areas in the real world that you always want to show the passthrough. I don't know a way of doing it, but that would be the theory.
The model is the actual JPL Cessna 152 model and I've just used blender to inject a big pink block into that model, so when the game loads it loads the normal plane model but that model now includes my big pink block. I'm not sure if you could do the same with iRacing. You can always look into Reality Mixer on steam, that is an overlay application that runs over the top of any steamvr game, letting you add a passthrough block anywhere you want. It adds a bit of overhead though so it may make things a little laggier.
If you already own a quest 3 then I'd recommend just putting it on and putting it in passthrough mode and looking at your ipad on your knee and see if you think it's good enough quality to read. In good lighting conditions, the quest 3 passthrough is pretty good, but an ipad at a range of what maybe 50cm may become a bit grainy? But it all depends on the size of the text you're reading. I tried a quick test with just my phone on my lap and it was "readable" but not amazing.
How did you fix the reality mixer stutter with msfs Works great with my DCS and other flight sims but I get a stutter with msfs only with reality mixer 3080ti
I'm not using reality mixer, I'm just using the built in colour passthrough function built into Virtual Desktop as I found reality mixer to give me a laggy overhead too.
The trick is lots of natural light if you can help it. artificial light seems to make the passthrough noticeably grainier. As my cockpit is right under a skylight it means the natural light covers it pretty well
yes....ish..... the quest 2 is only black and white and noticabley lower res, you may not be able to read any screens overly well in it, and the passthrough is also only monoscopic so things may not look 3d... the quest 3 is stereoscopic passthrough so it looks far more lifelike.... it's not perfect but its certainly "good enough" i think
I'm using the passthrough mode on Virtual Desktop to only apply passthrough to a magenta colour, which I then mask out in the plane model. You could also look into SimXR for an easier alternative to this.
@@FlyingTheston Thanks, I'm asking because I have a Pico 4 which has passthrough, but with only one camera, and I'm wondering if stereo is necessary to make mixed reality work. Do you know if that's the case?
@@lesneilson67I'm not sure if Virtual Desktop for Pico has the passthrough mode, you could look into Reality Mixer on steam which does kind of the same thing and I'm pretty sure that works with Pico 4... although the Pico 4 passthrough isn't as good as quest 3, which is a shame because the optics and comfort on the Pico 4 are really great.
I have just stumbled upon the mixed reality idea and looking up different solutions. This method of modifying the actual 3D model is absolutely genious. Did'nt even think that was possible. Great idea!
I've been braining this for a bit. You did a great job!!!
What we all dream of...only downside is that I am stuck with one aircraft type for use with Mixed Reality (pass-through). Of course you can make multiple cockpits, but not many of us have the time, space and money...and patience/understanding from partners. Still, this is about the ultimate FS experience, only to be improved with full-motion for the cockpit and force feedback on controls.
I only ever fly the Cessna 152 so it's perfect for me. But if you're someone who likes to fly multiple planes then obviously this set up isn't ideal 😊
This is fantastic
I had made a 152 sim out of a real 152 cockpit with 3 tv screens ,I wish I had kept the airframe
Regards.
Dave
@@davidmuir6849that sounds amazing, I bet having it built into a real cessna cockpit was as close to real as it gets! I was going to go for the 3 monitor set up, but space and cost (and performance) kinda pushed me towards vr
@@FlyingTheston
Can you please tell me where you got the drawings for the panel ?
Thanks
Dave
@@FlyingTheston
Believe me your idea with the mixed reality vr is far better than using 3 outside monitors 😀
I think you have done a fantastic job, kudos to you, and now you can really enjoy flying past Villa Park et al, well done mate.
Already done a villa park fly by 😎😉
This is extremely practical for training. You get the tactile reinforcement. Impressive. I know what kind of effort it takes to get this all working together.
Brilliant. I mentioned this in my early Mixed Reality video but didn’t know how to modify the model. Could you do a step by step video on the process of creating and modifying an aircraft to include the color keyed panel replacement?
Your video was the one that inspired me to try the mixed reality cockpit in the first place! This was the video I used to add the custom model, it's quite an involved process and I'm not sure I could make a video that was any clearer ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman
@@FlyingTheston Thaanks....I'll check it out. I really found your early scenery creation tutorials helpful. This approach is the best DIY implementation of MR I've seen. Realitry Mixer is just too difficult to get setup and aligned. I also prefer VDXR too and no steamVR overhead. What is really needed is a plugin that could interject the color keyed object into the cockpit and to resize and align it. Perhaps a .obj modeled in Tinkercad so that anyone could create it without much skill. This is definately the future,
Just stumbled across your video, glad to see my masking method working for other titles😄
the result you got looks very good, great job.
This is the best example of an affordable mixed reality cockpit I have seen so far! I am currently building my own, King Air one!
Thanks for the compliments! I hope your King Air one goes well, I'd love to see a video of it when its fully built!
@@FlyingTheston You bet! I would love to see more of yours as well! How is the readability of the instruments from air manager? Is the Quest 3 passthrough sharp enough? I am planning to use an external camera ( Stereolabs Zed Mini) attached to a Bigscreen Beyond.
@@jonmabecThe readability of the instruments is "fine" as much as in I can read them for the most part, but small details on them is just lost. Like I'd never read the kollsman window. But for the most part, its all fine, I can see what I need to see and I have the altimeter dial set up so when I press it, it just sets the altimeter to whatever atc says.
What incredible work dude!
Thanks so much!
how did you make the block and add it to reality mixer
OMG you're back!!!!!
Let me please say thank you thank you so much for all your fantastic videos that have helped me making content for MSFS 2020 and/or learn more about the sim.
Ohh and uhm.. "we" need to know how to insert an active marshaller to a helipad :D
glad you're making content with help from my videos! I've not touched the SDK in quite some time to make anything new, they kept making so many changes to it that it became hard to keep up to date with!
I loved that you made this video at Wellsbourne Mountford, then I saw the channel name and thought, where else would he fly from 🙂
Your Airfield has never looked better. Nice job on the cockpit and Airfield 😎🤘
thanks very much! hope you're enjoying the airfield too :)
@@FlyingThestonhi great video, definitely the way to go.
I’ve just recently bought a quest 3 for the purpose of mixed reality.
I believe VR Desktop is what you used is this software only good if you are running your headset wireless?
I have my quest 3 tethered via the oculus cable.
Do you also need to purchase Mixed Reality software?
I want to do exactly how you’ve set up but not shure if it makes a difference mine being tethered. Sorry I hope I make sense. Gary
@@garysaunders1714 I'm not sure how you'd go about getting it to work with a Quest 3 tethered, because even things like Reality Mixer would need VirtualDesktop as they don't have access to the quest cameras via steam vr.
@@FlyingTheston thanks for your reply, running your vr headset wireless do you find you get good fps still?
I read somewhere you need fast internet and wifi 6 router. Thanks
@@garysaunders1714 you don't need fast internet, but you do need at least a 5Ghz router (most routers are these days) and you do really need your computer connected to the router via an ethernet cable (1Gb connection too)
Wow very amazing setup!
Thanks very much!
Lol awesome cockpit, mate!
Tons of worjk there!
Really solid build! Good job on the panel. 😉👍🏻
Edit after watching the full video…
THATS BANANAS!!!
Going to watch your “how you did it” video now!
Total awesomeness!
thanks very much!
Best yet. Thanks.
Very nice, I will try to modify an model myself and get an pink box to get my stremdeck visible in vr, do you have a link to an good video on how to modify the airplane model in msfs?
If you're just using steam vr then I definitely recommend looking at reality mixer on steam. If you're using vdxr like me then you'll need to do the custom model thing. I'll dig out the RUclips video I watched and link to it
Ok here are some of the links you may find useful:
This is the Reality Mixer for steam: ruclips.net/video/Q0brsVwi20Q/видео.html&ab_channel=RussBarlow
And this is the video I followed for injecting a blender model into another plane model: ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman
@@FlyingTheston Tried with steamvr, but can`t get this to work. ruclips.net/video/kdGIaTJn17U/видео.html
Really great. May I ask you to make a short video how to generate and include that pink block?
Many thanks in advance
This was the video I followed ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.html&ab_channel=Wooselman and I'm not sure if I could do a video any clearer... The process is quite clunky and hard to follow, but it is what it is, just needs patience and perseverance. I'm happy to provide the cockpit gtlf for my JPL C152 if anyone would like it though :)
Man, you've got some lovely hands here, do you moisturise? I've tried all sorts of brands of lotion, I even went fragrance free for a whole year.
Look lad, you want to stay away from those fragrance moisturisers, they're just going to dry out your skin and cause irritation. If you're genuinely serious about good skin care then have you considered toilet duck? It's just a question to you, don't get defensive or anything
😂
If generating the pass through mask could be generated automatically this would work really nicely with any of the Experimental Sim Avionics panel sets using Air Manager. You could fly many different aircraft in MR using that combination.
Yeah, my version is super basic, just a big block of pink across the whole cockpit dash... It would be great if custom plane models came with a "passthrough" cockpit so you could just choose that livery or something and get it all without having to mess about.
Fantastic idea, sadly the pop out panels won't work anymore when MSFS is in VR mode otherwise it would be a great solution for my A320 panel. Thx for this video
What an amazing enhancement for the X-plane for its drawback not utilizing the pass-through feature of the Quest 3. Could you create another video detailing the step-by-step process for implementing the pass-through modification? Especially focusing on how to seamlessly integrate the pink block into the aircraft model. Maybe Laminar Research should consider bringing you on board to make this a reality in X-plane officially!
This is for Microsoft Flight Simulator, not X-Plane. I'm sure you could do something similar on X-Plane but I'm not sure if the steps would be the same.
Outstanding!
AMAZING
FANTASTIC STUFF!!! A tutorial on creating the 3d model & import would be MUCH appreciated.
Now I've got to dust off the panel I removed when I switched to VR! :D
I'd honestly recommend SimXR rkapps.shop/products/simxr over my approach of the custom model import, it's very convoluted and SimXR looks pretty easy to use for a decent price (I don't own it, nor have I used it, but it does look pretty good)
I appreciate the suggestion, but I'd like something persistent, which SimXR doesn't seem to do. Any chance you have any links / tutorials / anything that might start me down the path of inserting an object into MSFS? To see what I'm up to search the MS Forums for "Piper Arrow Build". Thanks in advance!!
@@tangocharlie9291 this was the tutorial I followed ruclips.net/video/YILhbDOZIXE/видео.htmlsi=StNzfkPLMnoSEcz9
But it is quite involved and a lot of trial and error was required on my part
I bought and have tried SimXR. Unfortunately it’s unstable, hard to size, doesn’t save between sessions and the window moves whenever I lift my headset. :/ I wonder if a VERY simple object can be created to block the panel. Kinda like a sheet of magenta paper floating in front of the panel…?
Fantastic presentation and realism. Smartest ever solution.Wider fov for you?
Very nice but don't you get distracted by the magenta/pink line around your instrument panel? It seems to break the immersion.
@@737sst I don't really notice it when flying
@@FlyingTheston Thanks. Wonder if this would also work with a bigger cockpit like a B737 or a A320 with overhead panels and all.
would be nice if developers provide a passthrough option in future by default
yeah that would be great if planes just came with a livery that had a magenta cockpit panel :)
Brilliant !
This is really cool. Are you able to make the pass-through version of the C152 model available for download? I tried to modify the existing model, but Blender won't let me load any models with DDS textures.
I've added links to the video description:
This is a zip file of the two files I modified in the JPL152 modded version of the Cessna152:
drive.google.com/file/d/1-A3VfZwpQ-lz4IWhWELiAO7_y1yTXLwZ/
(You need to extract into your jpl folder e.g. [Community\jplogistics-aircraft-c152\SimObjects\Airplanes\JPL_C152\model])
@@FlyingTheston You're a legend. I'll give it a try, thank you!
@@FlyingTheston Worked like a charm, thank you! Can I ask how you were able to load the original models into Blender even though they have DDS textures. I always get DDS extension not supported errors.
I got the cessna dashboard pink and the virtual desktop pass thu configured to see pink but when i press pass thru it see everything in front of me not just the cockpit? What am i doing wrong?
This looks sweet, does anyone make these custom built cockpits anywhere?
I'm not sure if there's anywhere that builds custom cockpits at a reasonable cost (I'm sure there are ones that cost thousands), but half the joy is in the process of making it yourself :)
possible a copilot with same headset?
Hi, now after 6 months, are you still pleased of your VR setup? Using it all the time you flight sim? Is this the FoV that you get? It seems a bit narrow, what's your opinion as a user? And what about the gauges, are they easily readable? And can you read a check list in this pass-through mode? Really cool to see this setup !
I will use my Cessna rig 8 out of 10 times I play (otherwise I'll just fly with a helicopter or an L39 and that's just for quick messing around). I definitely enjoy it more when I play with the full rig, it feels more immersive. The FoV is way better than what you see in the video because it's only recording from 1 eye and its cropped (which is why you see that black vignette around the top left), however, the FoV isn't amazing, it's decent though but it could definitely be better.
Passthrough is perfectly fine to read the gauges, I can see them all with no problem (other than the small clock). I've not tried reading a paper checklist on my lap. I can read my phone just fine in passthrough through.
@@FlyingTheston This is really relevant feedback, thanks a lot, you have just managed selling another Quest 3 ;)
What if you’d only have the controls (like yoke, throttle, pedals and some basic switches) and paint the cockpit purple. Could you project the interior and the instruments on that purple hardware?
yeah technically you could, but it may not be like a perfect placement, not sure if it's overly clear in the video but everything kinda wobbles about a bit sometimes too, it's fine here because it's the whole cockpit that is in the real world, but if you tried to just cut out bits to precisely fit them into the VR world then it may look more jarring
@@FlyingThestonthnx!
How or where did you get that radio stack, it looks awesome?
It's custom built with a 3d printed face panel, then a couple of dials/buttons for operation with the monitor behind it that runs the right side components. If you want to build your own then I'd definitely recommend watching Captain Bob's channel, he has a video on how to build a really good radio ruclips.net/video/YGrNcZI5cK0/видео.html&ab_channel=CaptainBob
Thanks 👍
So you are blocking within the simulator what will be overlayed with the real world?
Is there a way to do this the way around, defining the part of the real world which is shown?
In theory "probably", the Quest 3 has a feature coming where it can track your keyboard by recognising your keyboard and then showing passthrough on to your keyboard
So it's technically possible, but what we'd need is some access to an anchor system (like QR codes or something) where you can mark areas in the real world that you always want to show the passthrough. I don't know a way of doing it, but that would be the theory.
@@FlyingTheston yeah... VR is a problem to me if I can't see my flight gear.
@FlyingTheston where do you actually put the models you make for this cockpit passthrough? Would this work for a sim racing title like iRacing?
The model is the actual JPL Cessna 152 model and I've just used blender to inject a big pink block into that model, so when the game loads it loads the normal plane model but that model now includes my big pink block. I'm not sure if you could do the same with iRacing. You can always look into Reality Mixer on steam, that is an overlay application that runs over the top of any steamvr game, letting you add a passthrough block anywhere you want. It adds a bit of overhead though so it may make things a little laggier.
Would that also allow seeing IPad on kneeboard, for ForeFlight, and would that be readable, in your opinion? Thank you!
If you already own a quest 3 then I'd recommend just putting it on and putting it in passthrough mode and looking at your ipad on your knee and see if you think it's good enough quality to read. In good lighting conditions, the quest 3 passthrough is pretty good, but an ipad at a range of what maybe 50cm may become a bit grainy? But it all depends on the size of the text you're reading. I tried a quick test with just my phone on my lap and it was "readable" but not amazing.
How did you fix the reality mixer stutter with msfs
Works great with my DCS and other flight sims but I get a stutter with msfs only with reality mixer
3080ti
I'm not using reality mixer, I'm just using the built in colour passthrough function built into Virtual Desktop as I found reality mixer to give me a laggy overhead too.
@@FlyingTheston big thanks! Gonna do that, didn’t realize Vd had its own now aha
What did you do to get sufficent levels of light for the passthrough? Mine is very grainy and I need to work out how to light it, TIA
The trick is lots of natural light if you can help it. artificial light seems to make the passthrough noticeably grainier. As my cockpit is right under a skylight it means the natural light covers it pretty well
@@thestonefox Thanks for that. No natural light in my case, but I could create it with daylight matched LED light panels.
This was what I was looking for, will the quest 2 work the same way?
yes....ish..... the quest 2 is only black and white and noticabley lower res, you may not be able to read any screens overly well in it, and the passthrough is also only monoscopic so things may not look 3d... the quest 3 is stereoscopic passthrough so it looks far more lifelike.... it's not perfect but its certainly "good enough" i think
what is your mix reality system and how did you connect it to sim?
I'm using the passthrough mode on Virtual Desktop to only apply passthrough to a magenta colour, which I then mask out in the plane model. You could also look into SimXR for an easier alternative to this.
Is the Quest 3 passthrough stereoscopic?
Yes the Quest 3 is colour stereoscopic passthrough
@@FlyingTheston Thanks, I'm asking because I have a Pico 4 which has passthrough, but with only one camera, and I'm wondering if stereo is necessary to make mixed reality work. Do you know if that's the case?
@@lesneilson67I'm not sure if Virtual Desktop for Pico has the passthrough mode, you could look into Reality Mixer on steam which does kind of the same thing and I'm pretty sure that works with Pico 4... although the Pico 4 passthrough isn't as good as quest 3, which is a shame because the optics and comfort on the Pico 4 are really great.
@vrflightsimguy -Wow! this is SMART!
It's crazy that what's real looks faker than what's simulated.
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how did you manage that?!