@@NewMetaTV Completely bad take, at 3:35 Riven already need to burn 3 dash just to approach him, if Alois had his W here Riven would've had to take a wayy worse trade. Same thing happen here at 4:35 where if he had W, Riven wouldn't have the leisure to auto-attack him like that and same thing here 5:30. Viktor's W is a massive cockblock for melee.
Old w maybe. Old w was easily the worst ability in the game. So hard to hit if you just walk in a single direction. New w feels like if you touch it you're stunned. I think he still is thinking it's old w maybe.
Idk but as riven, when playing vs viktor, his w was always a pain to deal with because he can just drop it on his face whenever you want to engage and it just negates you entirely. Even if you try to Q out of it, it stuns you before the dash animation ends. To me, as riven, viktor's W is easely the most annoying ability and I cannot fathom a Viktor not upgrading it vs riven
@@AquatheAloisFan to gapclose, riven needs at least to EQ, but generally she needs EQQ. In both cases, if viktor drops w on himself while riven EQ/EQQ, riven either gets stunned when she's gapclosed, before dealing any substantial dmg, or she has to walk all the way around the stun zone. Also, viktor can just cast w during riven Q3 and she gets stunned on landing. In all these cases, Viktor just walks away while free dpsing riven who's used up all her dashes and therefore only hits like wet noodles during Q CD. That is, untill we're late enough in the game for riven's Q to be low cd enough to be cast quickly after, but by then viktor should be tanky enough and have enough dps to kill riven or burst her down to 30% ish hp in 1 spell rotation without the need to further dps her in that trade. Anyway, I don't see any world where riven can ever burst viktor down before the stun duration affects her, even with the most optimised animation cancels and even S cancels. I'm talking about old viktor btw, not the new one, but it's probably still the same if not worse.
Viktors W is a long range slow, but you almost never use it as such. It’s really good for chasing or crowd control from distance, and not just in melee range
Hey alois I've been playing a lot of games with a friend of mine who is unironically one of the best viktors ive ever seen. He taught me that you should level your w at lv4 against gap closing champs like riven or jax or irelia. Whenever jax uses e and indicates the wish to jump on you, you w yourself which stuns him while he stuns you, negating his dmg potential. With irelia you should w when you know her e is going to stun you or when she dashes onto you without minion back up. And riven ofc right before q3. Your w is a great slow and stun tool that negates a lot of engages and it's basically what makes these matchups so hard for bruisers. I as a tryndamere main played my fair share of games against viktor too and there was just no real way of me to engage him. Sustain is what defeats viktor ultimately. In summary use your w more, it's unironically the base of your whole kit. This ability ties everything together!
Love your vids boss, i like that u tell us what kind of games we can expect to come, but please try to not spoil the outcome of them. It takes something away.
I knew it! I immediately did this build but with gathering storm instead for more scaling and consistency specially in top there's always dorans shield and second wind abusers that it's meaningless to try to poke them out of lane, but outscaling them with more stats is just better. My build is still going AP with Dorans start into tear then BFTorch --- > Liandry --- > serap --- > then zhonya or banshe, you don't really need to build fully tank on viktor with this grasp build, you're still tanky enough and with damage you're just annoying to deal with and to build against.
there is a bug/feature with viktor aswell with spellblade where u can cast ur q right before ur auto kills the minion, this will give u spellblade and cancel q, costing no mana and making it easier to lasthit
Play Viktor in midlane with first strike lichbane malignance and shadow flame, and while you’re at it if you run into ad assassins try lethality crit graves mid with barrier fleet. They’re both amazing.
i think u rly undervalue the power of ur w into these melee all in matchups like riven irelia. If you have ur w lvl 3 any time they try jump on you when its up they just get stunned for free
First game is sucha flashback to olden time when super top locks in viktor top in s9 to show how op it is just to run into adrian riven on smurf and get banned for intentional feeding
sometimes i want to play again league, then i watch alois, see the in game chat(sometimes the not in game lol), see how the community its sh*tty as always and then say, nah, im better like this. Ty vanguard for being the perfect excuse to unstall
I kinda understand sejuani because she is a cc tank no damage and she gave u kills and some others too probably,she has high deaths because of frontlining in teamfights and dying because others run as soon as they see syndra so tilting is understandable
The W disrespect is insane just legit put it down and +1s free window at least, hate to backseat a challenger but what is riven gonna do if you put that down lol she already lost 2 dash just to approach you,.
Hey there king Piggy! A little bit of advice coming from a Viktor player. I've played him consistently through 4 seasons now and the one AP item you need to incorporate into this tank build is Lich Bane. It's a perfect item for Viktor even if you're building tank. It synergises with your Q, giving you an enormous amount of damage from empowered autos, and provides you with more movespeed for kiting. It is crucial to every Viktor build out there. Literally the best item for him.
Ranged piggy
Drututt needs to test this...
Maged piggy
The thumbnail is majestic.
old Victor looks like a Villain scientist vs New Victor looks like an unhealthy scientist
old Viktor looks like budget doctor doom and new Viktor looks like an actual machine herald
@@Existgoth new viktor looks nothing machine related
@Link-kr2bc he looks like a man fused with a machine by the power of the arcane. that is a machine herald. 100000x better than budget doctor doom.
new viktor is lore accurate.
@@Existgoth stop capping, RIOT removed the machine herald title, bcs they themselves know that it doesn't fit anymore
VIKTOR🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥
level 13 first point in new w is criminal
If he had it at level 4 at least he could easily stun riven post q's.. where are the fundamentos??
Its good in some matchups and mid especially but not into riven
@@NewMetaTV Completely bad take, at 3:35 Riven already need to burn 3 dash just to approach him, if Alois had his W here Riven would've had to take a wayy worse trade. Same thing happen here at 4:35 where if he had W, Riven wouldn't have the leisure to auto-attack him like that and same thing here 5:30. Viktor's W is a massive cockblock for melee.
@@NewMetaTVmakes no sense to not take it all what 😂 especially vs mobile champions provides an escape or at least spacing not lvling is complete grief
There is no chance that delaying your Gravity Field until 18 MINUTES into the game is not grief.
If he had it at level 4 at least he could easily stun riven post q's.. where are the fundamentos?
Old w maybe. Old w was easily the worst ability in the game. So hard to hit if you just walk in a single direction. New w feels like if you touch it you're stunned. I think he still is thinking it's old w maybe.
Idk but as riven, when playing vs viktor, his w was always a pain to deal with because he can just drop it on his face whenever you want to engage and it just negates you entirely. Even if you try to Q out of it, it stuns you before the dash animation ends. To me, as riven, viktor's W is easely the most annoying ability and I cannot fathom a Viktor not upgrading it vs riven
@brocolive1950 the argument is when she one-shots him before the time of the stun
@@AquatheAloisFan to gapclose, riven needs at least to EQ, but generally she needs EQQ. In both cases, if viktor drops w on himself while riven EQ/EQQ, riven either gets stunned when she's gapclosed, before dealing any substantial dmg, or she has to walk all the way around the stun zone. Also, viktor can just cast w during riven Q3 and she gets stunned on landing. In all these cases, Viktor just walks away while free dpsing riven who's used up all her dashes and therefore only hits like wet noodles during Q CD. That is, untill we're late enough in the game for riven's Q to be low cd enough to be cast quickly after, but by then viktor should be tanky enough and have enough dps to kill riven or burst her down to 30% ish hp in 1 spell rotation without the need to further dps her in that trade. Anyway, I don't see any world where riven can ever burst viktor down before the stun duration affects her, even with the most optimised animation cancels and even S cancels. I'm talking about old viktor btw, not the new one, but it's probably still the same if not worse.
10:04 Did anyone notice Lost Chapters with mythic item border?
I really like this recent style where you show the three different scenarios, it makes it really intriguing the whole way through!
Viktors W is a long range slow, but you almost never use it as such. It’s really good for chasing or crowd control from distance, and not just in melee range
Basically a risk free ekko w
12:38 giga brain walk out of the redemption play T-T
Hey alois I've been playing a lot of games with a friend of mine who is unironically one of the best viktors ive ever seen. He taught me that you should level your w at lv4 against gap closing champs like riven or jax or irelia. Whenever jax uses e and indicates the wish to jump on you, you w yourself which stuns him while he stuns you, negating his dmg potential. With irelia you should w when you know her e is going to stun you or when she dashes onto you without minion back up. And riven ofc right before q3. Your w is a great slow and stun tool that negates a lot of engages and it's basically what makes these matchups so hard for bruisers. I as a tryndamere main played my fair share of games against viktor too and there was just no real way of me to engage him. Sustain is what defeats viktor ultimately. In summary use your w more, it's unironically the base of your whole kit. This ability ties everything together!
Viktor nation, how we feeling?
The 12 Viktor mains are running late
Jaybe...
Or Jaybe not.
Bro this thumbnail must be studied
Love your vids boss, i like that u tell us what kind of games we can expect to come, but please try to not spoil the outcome of them. It takes something away.
Viktor! Viktor! Viktor. Viktor...
The 4/12 Sejuani calling Mr. Fundamentals a wintrader. You can't make such things up
Bro the edits are too good
The final glorious ovulation
not the first time, this guy became an terror on toplane
Daaaaaamn, the editor is feeling himself, in a good way.... well.
I knew it! I immediately did this build but with gathering storm instead for more scaling and consistency specially in top there's always dorans shield and second wind abusers that it's meaningless to try to poke them out of lane, but outscaling them with more stats is just better. My build is still going AP with Dorans start into tear then BFTorch --- > Liandry --- > serap --- > then zhonya or banshe, you don't really need to build fully tank on viktor with this grasp build, you're still tanky enough and with damage you're just annoying to deal with and to build against.
Editor needs a promotion
love bwipo man, still crying in BB tears
there is a bug/feature with viktor aswell with spellblade where u can cast ur q right before ur auto kills the minion, this will give u spellblade and cancel q, costing no mana and making it easier to lasthit
The minecraft pig noises are killing me XD
Whenever a new alois video gets released ik a new perma ban top will come up
Play Viktor in midlane with first strike lichbane malignance and shadow flame, and while you’re at it if you run into ad assassins try lethality crit graves mid with barrier fleet. They’re both amazing.
me an old timer having flashbacks to ekko and fizz tank meta top. i loved abusing that shit though :P
"Viktor Nation, how we feelin?" 🗣🗣🗣
9:05 people who know 💀💀💀
pdf?
Legends say he is still holding his W to this day...
looks fun. looks cancer to play against. will try. menace
game 1 counterplay is ruby + cloth or chain vest first recall over sheen perhaps?
History repeats itself. Viktor top is back
i think u rly undervalue the power of ur w into these melee all in matchups like riven irelia. If you have ur w lvl 3 any time they try jump on you when its up they just get stunned for free
like the trade at 6:00 is infinitely easier if u just drop ur w, she either has to q out or just gets stunned
Nahhhh. Ender what is this GOATED thumbnail
First game is sucha flashback to olden time when super top locks in viktor top in s9 to show how op it is just to run into adrian riven on smurf and get banned for intentional feeding
Always walk after Q, if u don't do that ur auto will have more delay to go
Viktor is so busted right now, tbh I mostly play wild rift but i went from 0/5 to 10/6 soon as I had a couple items.
DAMN EDITOR
Maybe put 1 skill point to W and you can prevent a lot of engagement/gank from the enemy team in Lanning phase 😁
victor nation🤖🤖
IMO 40:25 flashing over the wall to help Aatrox snipe Syndra could flip the game.
You should sit on tear and build liand as your ap item.
Viktor... Viktor... Viktor... 🤖
36:23 important viktor E?
how does riven counter this? black cleaver / seryelda / lethality?
Toplaner in my bronze ranked did this build and went 0 12
There is literally no reason for the thumbnail to look that good????
Viktoooor 🔥🔥💥💥
man please try Grasp tank karma
touch u 21:40 is crazy
Thumbnail 👀
Your control on your ultimate is criminal bro.....Most of the time you ult is just sitting there eating peanuts...
evil ranged piggy arc someone stop him. end the year wholesome.
Oh no its back 😂
This reminds me of the kleptomancty viktor
The Glorious Pigalution.
Viktor Jesus of zaun 😂 thats what i think when i see him 😂😂
sometimes i want to play again league, then i watch alois, see the in game chat(sometimes the not in game lol), see how the community its sh*tty as always and then say, nah, im better like this. Ty vanguard for being the perfect excuse to unstall
Tank victor was absolute eejds to play against. I remember tank ekko top tank diana etc tank ryze was all meta toplane.
u should try jarvin top with bruiser build. i've been playing it and its really fun/good😘😘
39:00 😭😭😭
when dodge upgraded viktor e fundamentolis?
btw chad jhin>twinky bar hwei
Was tank victor top really 6 years ago…
Im not a yaper and flamer but w was so good against riven
Peace ✌️ ☮️ 🕊
i'm convinced iceborn is just busted
full blue build.. gives me ptsd about blue ezreal..
Mr editor knows
not leveling W is so stupid
Not skilling w into that matchup is omega grief.
piggy boss man may i inquire where your top(shirt) is from
Bro if he had w early he wouldnt get recked that much by riven
VIKTOOOOOR
No way the 4-12 sejuani was blaming everyone else for the fed syndra ,league players are something else bro
When i saw it i thought its a laurpo video XD
I saw tank Viktor on bwipo's channel he seemes broken
I kinda understand sejuani because she is a cc tank no damage and she gave u kills and some others too probably,she has high deaths because of frontlining in teamfights and dying because others run as soon as they see syndra so tilting is understandable
can you do trundle again
Glorious PigOlution
No way should you ever not be taking W. It's a good ability
As a Viktor player it hurts to watch him get run down by a Riven and he has no points in W to stop her at all 😭
Bro why no w its actly made diffrens 😢
I like the idea, but I do not understand why you don't skill W. Many situations where it would be valuable.
Ive been gone for a week and bros a ranged abuser now
I played this in aram and people were not happy:v
Can we open a fund to donate to Alois a paycheck every time he wants to piggify himself and make a ranged top video?
You want Liandry, no?
Champions are looking like Concord characters more and more.
I think not getting your W early is a mistake against engage champs but ey whaddo i know
Wukong top tutorial?
"I will pe playing tank victor top"
Me: NO
twinklois is real
The W disrespect is insane just legit put it down and +1s free window at least, hate to backseat a challenger but what is riven gonna do if you put that down lol she already lost 2 dash just to approach you,.
Ranged characters should only get 50% gold and XP on top lane until min 20.
PIGGATRON GAMING
That pause before the game starts been getting longer and longer bruh
32:37 -1
Hey there king Piggy!
A little bit of advice coming from a Viktor player. I've played him consistently through 4 seasons now and the one AP item you need to incorporate into this tank build is Lich Bane.
It's a perfect item for Viktor even if you're building tank. It synergises with your Q, giving you an enormous amount of damage from empowered autos, and provides you with more movespeed for kiting. It is crucial to every Viktor build out there. Literally the best item for him.
you cant have 2 spellblade items at the same time so if he gets iceborn he cant get lichbane iirc