Amazing. I think anyone who plays this piece, let alone who plays it this well, deserves the utmost respect from the music community. For those of you who are wondering about the chromatic scale fingering: RH: B-D# (1-5), E-F# (1-3), G-A# (1-4), etc; yes, the pinky...the 1313 fingering wasn't fast enough for Liszt, and apparently not for Lugansky/Berezovsky either! Try this fingering, within a few min you'll be as fast as them! lol LH: Gb-A (4-1), Bb-C (3-1), Db-D (3,1), Eb-F (3-1), etc
Is it the concert of 17th january 2008 in the Théâtre des champs-élysées in Paris ? i was there... This concert was amazing, NL was very inspired at the top of his art. Breathtaking, incredible poetry. I am grateful to have been able to listen to it live. The most beautiful piano recital I have ever heard.
Hey, I know that this is a really old comment, but have you heard Trifonov's recording of this etude in Lyon. It's, in my opinion, I think the best recording of it out there.
i truly love this piece from him, i have kissin's and otter's and arrau's but he gives everything and he is sucha great performer....i like him very much
Bravo! great performance! beautiful Chasseneige... this work seems to be extremely difficult to play, but he put sensibility and gave the proper emotional load on his performance.
this piece is perfectly written, one of Liszt better compositions as a whole, especially considering the substance and color changes within a short 5 minutes
Yay left hand cross overs! I found that a good tip for doing them is, even for those who still are more comfortable with looking at your hands while you play, don't look. Your brain will be able to feel it work together if you just space your hands well and look at the music. ;)
@@Armissimo I actually played it, with a lot of mistakes, but I did it. Lol. No one plays it without errors I've noticed. I still love the piano, but I have really become consumed with designing new instruments, i.e. I'm building a talharpa, but I'm building it as one would build a viola da gamba.
It's not as equal, which is why you use 1313123 when you're not playing at 800+ notes per minute. In this piece, the sheet music itself has this fingering for chromatic: Starting on B natural: 12345 1234 123 12345 and so on and so fourth.
@oxsaphiraxo I've always thought of Lugansky and Berezovsky as two friends like Chopin and Liszt. Chopin was more poetic and light in his playing, Liszt had more of the power" and bravura. Luganksy practically worships Rachmaninoff, who in turn followed more in the style of Chopin. Berezovsky, has huge stubby hands like Anton Rubinstein (Beethoven reincarnate?) and deeply likes Liszt, Beethoven and performs Chopin like Liszt probably would. Both are different and offer great music.
I don't know if it's the best performance,but it's certainly one of the best! Lugansky makes no faults in difficult pieces, by the way, have you ever found him play a wrong note? When I watched this video, impressed by the acrobatic moves and music, I can't helping think that he who wrote all this was certainly the greatest genius!
@OriginalBasaliskos Arrau does great justice to the piece, but I honestly believe that pieces like Chasse-neige and Mazeppa NEED a ton of speed, or else you don't hear the "fire" driving these pieces like you should. That's why I like berezovsky's interpretations of those harder TE pieces so much. It was said that Liszt and his students played Wilde Jagd in about FOUR MINUTES.
1:22-1:33 is the hardest part to play right after memorizing and learning it. Giant jumps. I can tell he practiced it more than other parts because of how accurately and quickly he played it. He kind of neglected a few areas if he can play that part perfectly and screw up a bit in some other areas. Not that I didn't do that with this piece worse. Hardest but most gratifying piece I've ever learned, by far.
Yeah, thanks, I want to add that to things I know. I play the third movement of the moonlight sonata, and I want that chromatic at the end to be a bit smoother.
Yeah, I know they can be and are for building technique, but this one is so hard it's more of a piece that you use Etudes to get to, rather than an Etude itself...
If you ever learn this piece, don't play with Lugansky or Berezovsky's fingering at 3:30 on those octaves. Use your second fingers instead of your thumbs there. It makes it so much easier.
Maybe, since nobody has actually heard Liszt play, but there are several things for sure. Liszt claimed Anton Rubinstein as his successor and Anton Rubinstein taught Josef Hofmann, whom recorded the earliest piano playing ever. Now if you listen to ANY of Josef Hofmann, there is a lot of "power" in his playing. More like Vladimir Ashkenazy and closer to Horowitz if you ask me. I also hypothesize that Berezovsky's the closest based on accomplishment. You got to hear him play those Godowsky etudes
So, can you play around 1100 notes per minute doing 13123? Thats how fast you should be able to do it if you want to to be nice and blended. Lugansky does it slower, at around normal tempo, so like 900 per minute. Berezovsky goes way faster.
its five finger chromatics, very hard to get smooth but faster than normal fingering. start with thumb on e, its 123 1234 12345. the thumb under the little finger from eb to e is the stinker.
It wouldn't surprise me. Film music composers often "borrow" ideas from pre-existing pieces and often long dead composers. Most people would agree that John Williams (Star wars and Superman, etc.) ripped of a lot of his ideas from Brahms. Anyway, this is a quite nice performance!
Is he using a different chromatic fingering than is standard on those in order to allow for that speed? Or is it just so fast it creates that illusion...
I looked, he definitely used at least four, possibly five. Lugansky uses even his fifth, and the score I have says to use your fifth finger. Makes sense where you place it too. You won't get 900 notes per minute with the standard fingering. It's not possible, lol. Going three quarters that speed is significantly fast for it already. Apparently, Liszt may have created it for these types of chromatics. Don't repeat that though because it's unreliable.
its interesting what you say, but i really think that berezovsky plays really not like liszt did. i love berezovsky but when i think about the way liszt maybe played the best living pianist example would be daniil trifonov. he really is a liszt reicarnation ;)
Hehe, I admit I haven't checked out the score yet. I left the comment right after the first listen, which you can imagine, was very impressive. Later by listening again, I admit there is a minor mistake. Lusgansky seldom makes mistakes, that's for sure. He plays well Liszt, better than Chopin(his Chopin is quite cold and boring with constant pedal).
this video, for me, is the demonstration that a correct camera angle is all what is needed to represent a piano performance at its best. this video recording from the audience is far more spectacular than its "professional" counterpart (available on youtube) with no less than six cameras and a crazy editing with makes the point of view change every 10 seconds, probably intendend for viewers with limited attention span.. this is totally unbearable for me, it gets in between the listener and the music and spoils the experience of a marvellous performance (exactly the opposite of what it should do). in this video, instead, you can see everything very well, all the fearlessly played jumps as well as the body movements.. is it so difficult?
Now that I'm into this piece, I gotta say, for Lugansky, this is a bit sloppy. His Feux Follets was under par for him as well in this concert. The other recording of his Feux Follets was a lot better. Something was up with him that day, I bet.
I heard him play this in an old monastery in Mallorca on a very hot August night. Simply riveting. He looks like he stepped from a Tolstoy novel.
Was it a concert?
Playing a piece about winter on a hot summer night 🤦♂️
@@herobrine1847You have a shitty imagination if thats a big problem for you..
He is simply amazing!! Lugansky is for sure one (of very few) of the best pianists in the world.
Блестящее исполнение!!! Браво браво браво!!! 👏👏👏👏👏💓
Amazing ! Virituosity and drama .
It is so much for us that we deserve
so litlle !
Bravo Lugansky !
Феноменально!!!браво Артисту!! 👏👏👏
Amazing. I think anyone who plays this piece, let alone who plays it this well, deserves the utmost respect from the music community.
For those of you who are wondering about the chromatic scale fingering:
RH: B-D# (1-5), E-F# (1-3), G-A# (1-4), etc; yes, the pinky...the 1313 fingering wasn't fast enough for Liszt, and apparently not for Lugansky/Berezovsky either! Try this fingering, within a few min you'll be as fast as them! lol
LH: Gb-A (4-1), Bb-C (3-1), Db-D (3,1), Eb-F (3-1), etc
jdog25140 doesn't suit every hand, I uses 1213
Is it the concert of 17th january 2008 in the Théâtre des champs-élysées in Paris ? i was there... This concert was amazing, NL was very inspired at the top of his art. Breathtaking, incredible poetry. I am grateful to have been able to listen to it live. The most beautiful piano recital I have ever heard.
It's so good to see guys like this one. He loves what hee's doing....
Phenomenal in every way. Many thanks for sharing.
Amazing. Could be the best Chasse-neige I ever heard Live.
Hey, I know that this is a really old comment, but have you heard Trifonov's recording of this etude in Lyon. It's, in my opinion, I think the best recording of it out there.
i truly love this piece from him, i have kissin's and otter's and arrau's but he gives everything and he is sucha great performer....i like him very much
Brilliant, brilliant interpretation.......
He's a genius! 02/10/2011 was a concert in Minsk, it was just brilliant!
absolutely amazing!! such a great pianist...
After this performance how one cannot love List?
nleytman Liszt...
This is excellent! Thank you for video!
Bravo! great performance! beautiful Chasseneige... this work seems to be extremely difficult to play, but he put sensibility and gave the proper emotional load on his performance.
this piece is perfectly written, one of Liszt better compositions as a whole, especially considering the substance and color changes within a short 5 minutes
Yay left hand cross overs! I found that a good tip for doing them is, even for those who still are more comfortable with looking at your hands while you play, don't look. Your brain will be able to feel it work together if you just space your hands well and look at the music. ;)
This piece is going on my bucket list.
I will play it some day...
15 years later. I don't know if you're still active or not, but have you met that "some day" yet? :)
@@Armissimo I actually played it, with a lot of mistakes, but I did it. Lol. No one plays it without errors I've noticed.
I still love the piano, but I have really become consumed with designing new instruments, i.e. I'm building a talharpa, but I'm building it as one would build a viola da gamba.
It's not as equal, which is why you use 1313123 when you're not playing at 800+ notes per minute.
In this piece, the sheet music itself has this fingering for chromatic:
Starting on B natural: 12345 1234 123 12345 and so on and so fourth.
The first performance of this piece that I've heard that I like as much as Berezovsky's.
I would really like to see your performance, would you post it to youtube, when you are done?
Incredible interpretation! I prefer the Berezovsky's one too (but not those you can listen on youtube).
@oxsaphiraxo I've always thought of Lugansky and Berezovsky as two friends like Chopin and Liszt. Chopin was more poetic and light in his playing, Liszt had more of the power" and bravura. Luganksy practically worships Rachmaninoff, who in turn followed more in the style of Chopin. Berezovsky, has huge stubby hands like Anton Rubinstein (Beethoven reincarnate?) and deeply likes Liszt, Beethoven and performs Chopin like Liszt probably would. Both are different and offer great music.
I don't know if it's the best performance,but it's certainly one of the best! Lugansky makes no faults in difficult pieces, by the way, have you ever found him play a wrong note? When I watched this video, impressed by the acrobatic moves and music, I can't helping think that he who wrote all this was certainly the greatest genius!
There were actually a few (between 3:15 and 4:00 were 4 wrong notes), but his execution is still perfect imo.
@OriginalBasaliskos Arrau does great justice to the piece, but I honestly believe that pieces like Chasse-neige and Mazeppa NEED a ton of speed, or else you don't hear the "fire" driving these pieces like you should. That's why I like berezovsky's interpretations of those harder TE pieces so much. It was said that Liszt and his students played Wilde Jagd in about FOUR MINUTES.
1:22-1:33 is the hardest part to play right after memorizing and learning it. Giant jumps. I can tell he practiced it more than other parts because of how accurately and quickly he played it. He kind of neglected a few areas if he can play that part perfectly and screw up a bit in some other areas.
Not that I didn't do that with this piece worse. Hardest but most gratifying piece I've ever learned, by far.
Opus 32 yea right probably tried chopsticks and failed lol
The better i ever heard!
Yeah, thanks, I want to add that to things I know. I play the third movement of the moonlight sonata, and I want that chromatic at the end to be a bit smoother.
This piece is great... Really great...
I don't know why it's called an etude... It's one of the hardest things to play....
@MrHeyheyhey27 What about Arrau? His is my favorite.
Lugansky is a master! Simply amazing! Please tell me that he is working on a recording of all of Liszt's Transcendental Etudes.
Yeah, I know they can be and are for building technique, but this one is so hard it's more of a piece that you use Etudes to get to, rather than an Etude itself...
Genius!
BEST!!!
💖🎶💖🎶💖
@DesAbends
Berezovsky completely ignored it. Lugansky here did it fine.
If you ever learn this piece, don't play with Lugansky or Berezovsky's fingering at 3:30 on those octaves. Use your second fingers instead of your thumbs there. It makes it so much easier.
What facility!
Maybe, since nobody has actually heard Liszt play, but there are several things for sure. Liszt claimed Anton Rubinstein as his successor and Anton Rubinstein taught Josef Hofmann, whom recorded the earliest piano playing ever. Now if you listen to ANY of Josef Hofmann, there is a lot of "power" in his playing. More like Vladimir Ashkenazy and closer to Horowitz if you ask me. I also hypothesize that Berezovsky's the closest based on accomplishment. You got to hear him play those Godowsky etudes
So, can you play around 1100 notes per minute doing 13123? Thats how fast you should be able to do it if you want to to be nice and blended. Lugansky does it slower, at around normal tempo, so like 900 per minute.
Berezovsky goes way faster.
Did anyone else get terrified and think of Slenderman when the video skipped at around 0:48?
its five finger chromatics, very hard to get smooth but faster than normal fingering. start with thumb on e, its 123 1234 12345. the thumb under the little finger from eb to e is the stinker.
La plus belle interprétation depuis celle de Claudio Arrau !
Tout a fait d'accord, c'est une immense version, dommage que l'enregistrement ne soit pas de super bonne qualité
It wouldn't surprise me. Film music composers often "borrow" ideas from pre-existing pieces and often long dead composers. Most people would agree that John Williams (Star wars and Superman, etc.) ripped of a lot of his ideas from Brahms.
Anyway, this is a quite nice performance!
Oh don't mind me: I'm fairly inexperienced. I talk a lot and its usually for my own progression.
Interestingly enough, they're both chess buds apparently.
Is he using a different chromatic fingering than is standard on those in order to allow for that speed? Or is it just so fast it creates that illusion...
Opus 32 I think only 1,2,3 finger, no more
I prefer Kemal Gekic's Chasse Neige.
His interpretation is beyond to compare!!!
I looked, he definitely used at least four, possibly five.
Lugansky uses even his fifth, and the score I have says to use your fifth finger. Makes sense where you place it too.
You won't get 900 notes per minute with the standard fingering. It's not possible, lol. Going three quarters that speed is significantly fast for it already. Apparently, Liszt may have created it for these types of chromatics. Don't repeat that though because it's unreliable.
its interesting what you say, but i really think that berezovsky plays really not like liszt did. i love berezovsky but when i think about the way liszt maybe played the best living pianist example would be daniil trifonov. he really is a liszt reicarnation ;)
ja doei
but technically unparalleled
Hehe, I admit I haven't checked out the score yet. I left the comment right after the first listen, which you can imagine, was very impressive. Later by listening again, I admit there is a minor mistake. Lusgansky seldom makes mistakes, that's for sure. He plays well Liszt, better than Chopin(his Chopin is quite cold and boring with constant pedal).
Etudes can be hard...they build technique lol.
I much prefer Berezovsky's interpretation.
If he adopted any lesser pace in the difficult passages, he would stop playing!
Nah, but yeh it certainly is hard
this video, for me, is the demonstration that a correct camera angle is all what is needed to represent a piano performance at its best. this video recording from the audience is far more spectacular than its "professional" counterpart (available on youtube) with no less than six cameras and a crazy editing with makes the point of view change every 10 seconds, probably intendend for viewers with limited attention span.. this is totally unbearable for me, it gets in between the listener and the music and spoils the experience of a marvellous performance (exactly the opposite of what it should do). in this video, instead, you can see everything very well, all the fearlessly played jumps as well as the body movements.. is it so difficult?
Now that I'm into this piece, I gotta say, for Lugansky, this is a bit sloppy. His Feux Follets was under par for him as well in this concert. The other recording of his Feux Follets was a lot better. Something was up with him that day, I bet.
was the camera man DRUNK ?????
Eh? I thought Rach was more of an extrovert and show-off, like Liszt.
Mithra no Liszt was by far the bigger show off
Дерево.
technically superb but as far as spirituality-complete void