I’ve loved the prism flash for over a year, this might be the right next step. Really glad that Vatic came out with something so quickly after the Oni situation.
I have watched many of your reviews and this was your best work! Dissecting the paddle is so cool. I'm also biased because this is my favorite paddle I've played with to date!
Super stoked to be getting mine tomorrow. Sold my original FLASH to a friend a couple years back, and regretted it. Hope VATIC is patenting their middle face sheet material. The handle "scales" will make putting on a Hesacore very easy.
Good job as always … if only my game was this consistent. I have a bag full of Daryl’s Vatic paddles, and the bag is a Vatic bag. 😂 I have always loved the Vatic Prism Flash 16 SH, and Saga was in my near future until the purple apes S arrived first. I hope someone shows up at our place with one, because I am curious about the feel. I actually liked the Prism because it didn’t feel springy. I used a term with tennis strings that I played best with, and seems I want the same with paddles … “crappy trampoline”. 😛 I want the feel of pocketing control/dwell without big spring. I bet paddles evolve in that direction … which inevitably probably means dropping polypropylene.
John … not related … but you had mentioned Lifetime ball before. We have now played with it for several weeks at our Lifetime. I like it, seems to hold up better than X40 regardless of seam. I only play indoors, and I think the green is harder to track than the yellow X40, so hope they make a yellow one.
@@scottfrancis13 Yes, I had to look it up “Life Time’s ultimate pickleball, however, has 48 holes, making the ratio between the holes and the spacing between them more even. From a durability standpoint, the engineers also made the holes have more of a rounded edge versus a flat edge, extending the ball’s longevity against micro-cracks.”
Is there a way to find a way to measure accuracy? I feel large cell paddles like the new PTeks are less accuracy than small cell paddles like the Standout CF3, with all conditions being the same.
Why would anyone want a paddle with a standard length when there is a long handle version with essentially the same face profile? That tiny little area of real estate that you get back with the shorter handle does practically nothing for you, except make your two handed shots more uncomfortable. Even if you don''t use two hands, you still don't use that part of the paddle except for the most rare mishits that are unlikely to get over the net anyways.
@ that’s where I’ve heard about it first. Bullet proof vests too apparently. I’ve seen it available at composites suppliers online on its own or woven together with something like carbon fiber.
Vatic: We don't want the tech to leak
John: Watch me dissect this thing and show you the tech
The prism flash has endured the test of time as an amazing paddle, and I suspect the saga will as well. Huge props to Vatic.
I’ve loved the prism flash for over a year, this might be the right next step. Really glad that Vatic came out with something so quickly after the Oni situation.
John Kew just had to be the best paddle reviewer ever his nerd dives are what i tune in for. Excellent review yet again John
Daryl is ahead of you widebody and 14mm versions coming early next year. A 14mm hybrid and widebody will be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Ordered using your code, thank you!
Full mad scientist on this paddle. Luv it.
Always look forward to your reviews, even if I'm not interested in the specific paddle, I still learn a lot from your findings.
Awesome deep dive inside the paddle
Awesome review. Just getting ready to buy a new paddle.
Awesome review! The paddle dissection was super interesting.
I have watched many of your reviews and this was your best work! Dissecting the paddle is so cool. I'm also biased because this is my favorite paddle I've played with to date!
Super stoked to be getting mine tomorrow. Sold my original FLASH to a friend a couple years back, and regretted it. Hope VATIC is patenting their middle face sheet material.
The handle "scales" will make putting on a Hesacore very easy.
Good job as always … if only my game was this consistent.
I have a bag full of Daryl’s Vatic paddles, and the bag is a Vatic bag. 😂 I have always loved the Vatic Prism Flash 16 SH, and Saga was in my near future until the purple apes S arrived first. I hope someone shows up at our place with one, because I am curious about the feel. I actually liked the Prism because it didn’t feel springy. I used a term with tennis strings that I played best with, and seems I want the same with paddles … “crappy trampoline”. 😛 I want the feel of pocketing control/dwell without big spring. I bet paddles evolve in that direction … which inevitably probably means dropping polypropylene.
Great review.
Great review. I also like the graphics.
14mm and wide body variants will be released early next year!
Thanks for the review. How would you rate the power compared to the monarch jellybean?
Can you do a diy video of how you cut your paddles
Let’s go Kew daddy
John … not related … but you had mentioned Lifetime ball before. We have now played with it for several weeks at our Lifetime. I like it, seems to hold up better than X40 regardless of seam. I only play indoors, and I think the green is harder to track than the yellow X40, so hope they make a yellow one.
isnt the Lifetime ball 48 holes
@@scottfrancis13 Yes, I had to look it up
“Life Time’s ultimate pickleball, however, has 48 holes, making the ratio between the holes and the spacing between them more even. From a durability standpoint, the engineers also made the holes have more of a rounded edge versus a flat edge, extending the ball’s longevity against micro-cracks.”
Very cool design
Is there a way to find a way to measure accuracy? I feel large cell paddles like the new PTeks are less accuracy than small cell paddles like the Standout CF3, with all conditions being the same.
How short is short handle? Can you put 2 hands on it if needed? Or you don't use 2 handed backhand?
I’m debating buying the Saga or the new Engage Pursuit V2.0. Have you had any play time with the Engage paddle to compare?
@@WayneHays-f4x I haven’t hit the Pursuit 2.0 yet, but they’re sending it to me
So the Saga and the J7k pro are the same petty much when it comes to power and pop?
Wow the content is leaps and bounds better that Pickleball Studios! Kuddos John
I was hoping you’d put the static weight of the paddle you tested metrics on
Why would anyone want a paddle with a standard length when there is a long handle version with essentially the same face profile? That tiny little area of real estate that you get back with the shorter handle does practically nothing for you, except make your two handed shots more uncomfortable. Even if you don''t use two hands, you still don't use that part of the paddle except for the most rare mishits that are unlikely to get over the net anyways.
Carbon fiber woven with spectra/dyneema fiber? Maybe?
Spectra is some crazy strong stuff. Protective climbing gear has been using it for years. Also competitive fishing line.
@ that’s where I’ve heard about it first. Bullet proof vests too apparently. I’ve seen it available at composites suppliers online on its own or woven together with something like carbon fiber.
Looks awful. Just stick with the $90 prism flash