For anyone wondering how tf did Susie not die when attacked (and no it's not plot armor) it's because she was DOWNED, and is capable of sparing so she just spared herself. She was basically still in your party but also not in your party at the same time which is weird.
@@matissimoj1190it’s the undertale battle system, not deltarunes, as we can see at the start of deltatraveler it treats the 2 battle systems differently
I love how those jokes you made about Jerry actually became a thing in this game This Obliteration route in general is pretty well done with how the party starts to fight against the soul, this section was pretty good
It started off really changed an everything but at least to me it looks like it turns into mostly just pacifist later Can’t say that pacifist isn’t bad it is pretty cool just expected a bit more variety from obliteration like section 2 did
@@krisspychissp That is also because Shayy missed some interactions. If after killing the dog you do certain response Susie becomes devious. And if after that you kill UF sans with iceshock Susie will straight Up throw their weapon, which means that down the line Susie may stay withaut a weapon and also start messing up your plans more like making Noelle not do what you order. Heck, devious Susie could already do multiple things like using rude busters against the wall, attacking with less power, hurting anyone in the team. And with Kris, the red Buster kills you in ANY fight, not just sans. It's basically Kris putting fake acts so you die. Oh yeah Noelle also says to Kris that he should had uf himself if you go out of obliteration at a certain point after killing snowy. Yeah there is things, is just that you need to look out for them.
Fell Sans has Karma in Obliteration as opposed to Pacifist That's certainly a nice detail 59:15 Red Buster is a troll, thanks to Kris's "deceitful" trait. It brings fake acts that are meant to hinder the player 1:06:52 Get ready for the most brutal death in all Undertale/Deltarune
Just thought I'd point out a few things you missed on this run. They are optional, but I thought they were cool enough to be pointed out anyway. 1: the reason the red buster shot you was because of the deceitful condition Kris has, which gives you fake acts that will be used to attack you. I'm pretty sure that only applies to red buster, but it might apply to other acts. 2: there is also a way to give Susie a red status effect thing. If you chose "shut up" after killing lesser dog, you get a second dialogue option where you can say "I want you dead." This would make Susie completely give up on working with you, and give her the disobedient effect. 3: if you kill fell sans with ice shock, you'll get a unique way of killing him, that probably being why sans told us to get an ice weapon.
I kept accidentally abandoning this route because I didn't think to go back for Lesser Dog, I literally thought Susie was just like "nope we're skipping this room and never coming back."
Fells death is something so unexpected and creepy He just Laughs and Laughs until he's nothing but Blood and shattered bones He really doesnt fear death
Sans Fels normal death is so overdone it's anoying, that's why i make Noelle Proceed all over him, that death don't give me genuine cringe as his normal death do
@@theprinceofawesomeness Kind of true. I get it's Underfell, but with the over-the-top edge, I just can't take it seriously. The IceShock death is much more chilling (punintentional)
The Lesser Dog betrayal kill is not only betrayal, but strategic as well. Also, when you made Kris attack Susie, I could just imagine the horror on their face as they unwillingly began to swing a *KAAWWWAAAADDDDD* I never thought this could get worse, and then RynoGG just shattered the barrier of what I thought was possible.
I have tested betray killing the dog and it took more time and effort than normal killing even then i knew which options to chose. I find it as a fun fact and hopefully future plot point that you can Spare Susie with out aborting Obliteration
@@theprinceofawesomeness Huh. Well, that's an interesting fact, I never knew it was better to just attack mindlessly than to lower its guard and then attack like a cold-blooded killer. Sparing Susie (among other things) might make for one of the better Obliteration Route endings.
@@legendgames128 i had to go back and test again since i didn't write it down but the exact number is that it takes 8 turns for betray killing, 5 ACT and 3 FIGHT, (it could be a 9th if you don't do enguth damage), this is using the Clean Pan and hitting all quad somewhere in the eye thing (margin of 2 for perfect), if you only FIGHT it takes a Total of 6-7 turns assuming you deal 30 or more damage against the shield (quad Crit is a max of 67, shield have high defence). there is a "MEGA" betray, if you get it's Marcy meter to 100% you only need to deal damage once, but it takes 7 turns, 6 ACT, and 1 FIGHT. Susie calls you out if you do this so i guess it's true betray. if you can hit quads almost on the spot then Betray is more effort
@@theprinceofawesomeness Total betrayal takes the same number of turns as mindless attacking? Huh, so it is roughly equal to mindlessly attack as it is to be a double-crossing backstabbing piece of-
fun fact: in the fight at 22:10 if u kill only 1 of the dog and spare the other, something funny happens also,if u use iceshock to kill UF sans, theres special dialouge
To get whole new interaction (and potentially whole new route in ch4) you need to do this: (spoilers, obviously, but yall don't care I guess) (I'm REALLY surprised why no one pointed this out yet) . . . . 1. After dog fight, pick "Shut Up" and "I want to kill you" 2. Ice Shock on Sans Ice Shock does have it's own thing if you don't do step 1, but only step 1 makes noticeable difference
fun fact, if you use jerry's blade and land a perfect hit causing a group hit, it can also hit enemies that would dodge out of the way, landing on fell sans will hit him back into place allowing for the other hits to land to
Hey shayy, you missed a few secrets. Back at the lesser dog fight, if you kill them by using a betrayal kill, and survive Susie’s attack, you can attack them and it makes them “devious.” Also, try using ice shock on sans when he can be killed after the final attack.
The reason Susie uses Red Buster on Kris is cause when Kris uses their soul to power her up their soul is visible so Susie actually aims for the soul. That's why everyone gets damaged from Susie doing that, she was trying to potentially get rid of the soul... which doesn't work out.
The whole ( 5:20 to 12:30 ) interaction for me is my favorite of all the chapters. There's something so powerful in seeing this scene, seems realistical based on what they've gone through in this route. Moments like this are why I think this is the best geno route I've seen in fangames
@@brawlmaster0190a little extra challenge is fun after all, if they were all cooperative and allowed you to quickly murder everybody itd get pretty boring
@@chezux979 it's interesting that the choose exist, i do hope that in the future we can further elaborate to the characters what we want. it's a huge task to code in but i feel we need to explain our self to them. i feel this to be true for the actual real Deltarune too, that we need to explain our self at some point
37:17 If you answer "Shut up", Susie will get mad not a Kris, but *you.* Then she will ask why did you try to kill her, and you can answer that question. But i'll let you discover by yourself what happens after that.
@@Ink_Akane_Kurokawa Because he chose "you hit me???" instead of "shut up" and then "I want you dead" That's what makes her devious because she gets pissed off at the player
i find it really funny tbh because near the end of the video Shayy mentions that section 1 doesn't have a super crazy genocide ver of the boss and like. i played it recently and flowey (section 1 boss) actually gets EASIER in obliteration lmao. like it ends up being way faster.
@@funcoolfunfun Karma roughly applies the same kind of damage overall as if you were doing pacifist run, but the damage rise from LV is definitely through the roof lol
Random stuff I wanted to mention (also Jerry fight) 1) 22:20 There's hidden dialogue for killing one and sparing the other. No spoilers from me. 2) 37:15 Picking "Shut up" and later "I want you dead" does something special. 3) I can't count to three. 4) 44:44 Jerry the Reaper's nanomachines monologue 5) 46:08 Standing Here I Realize it's all JoJo reference 6) 59:10 "Red Buster" (not to confuse with "Rude Buster") is an attack that is caused by Kris's Deceitful status. 7) 1:06:05 Use Ice Weapon or something (Blue Sans mentioned it)
That Jerry fight was the best thing ever convinced in an undertale/deltarune fangame. Nothing can top this. MAGIC, HUMAN. IT HARDENS IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA. YOU CAN'T HURT ME, KRIS!
Personally disagree, but hey I respect your opinion (although I’m mostly referring to the obliteration path when I say this, because I actually really like the pacifist route in this section lmao)
@@thenyan3095The genocide route was a letdown because no one really seems shocked by anything Kris does since they tell them what is happening. Even before that only Noelle seems affected then apparently not being affected at all.
they literally contradict themselves several times in the obliteration route and rynogg got lazy, she made everyone unaffected besides the “devious” susie status, susie got pissed at sans for killing a little kid acting like they didnt murder two children in cold blood and leave it at that
@@mechamedegeorge6786 yeahhh I think that’s mostly because of the fact that the dialogue is not very changed from pacifist, and that the route is not changed from pacifist in general, the evil routes of UT/DT have VERY different dialogue interactions, boss fights etc and it also specifically gets rid of all the comedic moments which this section just.. doesn’t do? And it just really messes with the tone in general, And it’s weird because section 2 absolutely NAILED this for the most part and even then, the preview for section 3 was going in a really nice direction before they decided that the 3 would just.. continue being a team and just play along with killing things, and it’s especially weird because they straight up know that it’s not Kris they’re speaking to anymore Although one thing I want to point out is that there is a chance that this was done to save time, I’m no computing expert but making a game is probably really difficult, so maybe she made the changes in the OB more minimal just to take a shortcut? But who knows that’s just speculation
@@thenyan3095 tbh I think the section may have been slightly rushed, I've heard a dev say they considered a separate scene if you ended the obliteration route by sparing GG!Sans. Which tbh is kind of jarring because it feels like Susie should call you out for it, like after all of that you spare the guy who boasted about killing Suzie, iirc the scene is basically the same as sparing them normally which is also very weird considering other exits from the Obliteration route have different cutscenes/dialogue. I do understand the characters progressively getting less bothered and desensitized to the trolling considering how LOVE is explained in Undertale as "The more you kll, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself the more capacity you have to hurt". But the tone of the Obliteration route feels a bit weird because of the comedic moments still being there, and especially post-Kris sleeping the characters act more similarly to pacifist (I understand if the endings of the sections are the same but for example snowgrave derailed a lot of chapter 3), maybe it's just me but the, tone of the first part of the Section (pre-Kris sleep) and the second part of it feel very different. Still really liked the game.
Stuff I found while playing: -There is "a room between" the snowman room and the directions room -If you go back after the dark forest you can find a party of snowdrakes -You can go back to the ruins door and the hotdog stand for new dialogue. -Getting 1st place in uno gives you the silver key -You can give Papyrus the egg for a "Papyrus charm" armor
I think the most important thing about Susie... Is I think when they Killed Underfell Sans, they didn't care about what happens next... They seem to just want to get this over with at this point
I personally believe killing Sans shouldn't give you any EXP, because it's kinda justified, at least on the least violent neutral route. Snowdin would be ten times safer without this guy around.
Since you completed it here is rest of the Obliterstion route endings **Guide for Deltarune section 3 Obliteration route** # **major spilers ahead** || # Normal Obliteration ending Kill everyone normaly|| || # *Snow Grave Obliteration ending* Kill Sans using Noelle's Ice Schock|| || # **True Snowgrave ending / Susie throws her wepon away** When you fight Susie you gotta kill her then choose this dialoge Shut up I want you dead After that she will become "Devious" and has a chance to disobey your actions but Noelle will get **stronger**, after that you gotta kill Sans with Noelle's Ice Schock You will see new dialoge, cutscene, etc based on your Obliteration ending|| If you have any question please ask when he get's the time he will asnwer you
Killing Jerry in Deltatraveler is the best battle in all of Undertale or Deltarune history, the Katana is a cool weapon as well, it's not a Blood Badana (Pink Ribbon), but it's still cool
I think this fangame is really cool and interesting but what I really dont like is how okay susie and noelle apparently are with kris killing everything they see. Yeah its us controlling kris and not them doing it and they even told susie and noelle but I still think they should be doing a lot more to stop kris from murdering everyone
To be fair, there's only so much they can actually do without outright killing Kris. And they don't know about saving and reloading, so to them, whatever happens is permanent, even if we know it's not necessarily so
And what are they gonna do exactly Susie herself said Kris hits like a truck Doing that would be a death sentence. And they also kinda wanna go back to their home too. I think while they value the life of other monsters they also have some sense of self preservation(e.g Susie sparing herself to not get killed by you).
By the way things are right now, any special world that isn't undertale based will maybe have different geno bosses, or maybe section 2 was special just to give lore for section 3.
Wait, What would happen if susie is in low HP and we don't have any HP Recovery in our inventory, Would we actually kill her in this 36:55 Edit: It has been debunked that when she reaches zero HP, She can't die and still mercy herself out of the battle
Refer back to this comment. I have a prediction! The heart to heart under the pillow talks about being tethered to Kris, and you then create a custom designed human... The next chapter is going to the Link to the Past universe... is this game gonna pull a Link/Dark Link, and have the player's soul control the custom entity? That feels like a reasonable prediction. I could see it happening... but tell me if I'm wrong when Deltatraveler gets it's next chapter.
Fun fact: Next section is literally a link to the past. (ft. Zelda) P.S.: You can tell that it's from zelda a link to the past by seeing the text. See The Legend of Zelda: A Link to The Past for difference.
honestly i believe if a game makes a "genocide" route make it as "fluffed" (you know what i mean i just like to be PG when i type) up as possible because if you do then less people will do said route and if they do they WILL feel bad about doing it and if they DONT then they need help/need therapy/whatever is needed for people who cant feel emotions or whatever problem they have so what i am saying is i like how they made the Obliteration Route in this even if i dont like the content of it. also i love how they give ways to be funny while you play it even if it is a dark funny like the "doing it for content" bit
I don’t think i would’ve gotten past the earthbound section, but had I gotten here i would’ve stopped at lesser dog. It just feels cruel and I could never bring myself to do it
Dude, I probably would’ve stopped after seeing Kris and Susie breakdown like that. Call it cheesy, but after seeing these characters that I’ve liked since I played CH1 all the way back in high school, just breakdown like this because of *my* actions. It flat out just makes me wanna erase my obliteration save and continue to play as a pacifist. I’d rather just be the man who is taking someone free will, rather than being that AND a murderer.
Very great video Shayy! There is one thing you had missed during the sequence of going back for the soul just before you leave. When you wait around 5-ish minutes, the vessel will show up under the large bed in the other room
shayy when dogami and dogaressa ask if you human tell them that u are and leave only 1 of them alive in the battle then spare and there will be a secret easter egg
Not gonna lie I'm ironically more intrigued to see where the Obliteration Route goes as it seems that the group's becoming more aware as the story goes on that Kris well and truly isn't in control and are now starting to fight back against it. Wonder if this will end with Kris, Suzie, and Noelle fighting against the Vessel with the Soul or ad nauseam and if it's the former I can imagine Kris, Suzie, and Noelle are gonna be broken as hell at the end of all of this. Maybe we might even see Kris or Noelle break into tears with all the blood on their hands now, both metaphorically and physically.
46:08 jerry underfell is stronger than sans, you literally need multiple people to take him down, even then it takes all the energy out of kris (i think cause of the dialogue and sprite)
Jerry gains defense as the battle goes on.
The bandana increases tension.
He's hardening in response to physical trauma
Holy shit
You can't hurt me Kris my tension is rising!
Nanomachines son.
TENSION POINTS SON.
STANDING HERE
1:06:11 Truly the most jaw dropping moment of the whole playthrough.
Heh. Nice joke
Half of his face is gone he is shedding
heh. good one.
NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH wait did sans's jaw just die
LMAO
For anyone wondering how tf did Susie not die when attacked (and no it's not plot armor) it's because she was DOWNED, and is capable of sparing so she just spared herself. She was basically still in your party but also not in your party at the same time which is weird.
But downed party members can't do anything, so no, it's still plot armor
susie manipulating code spaghetti at gaster-level just amazes me.
She just ran away, like darkners
@@matissimoj1190it’s the undertale battle system, not deltarunes, as we can see at the start of deltatraveler it treats the 2 battle systems differently
I love how those jokes you made about Jerry actually became a thing in this game
This Obliteration route in general is pretty well done with how the party starts to fight against the soul, this section was pretty good
It started off really changed an everything but at least to me it looks like it turns into mostly just pacifist later
Can’t say that pacifist isn’t bad it is pretty cool just expected a bit more variety from obliteration like section 2 did
@@krisspychissp That is also because Shayy missed some interactions. If after killing the dog you do certain response Susie becomes devious. And if after that you kill UF sans with iceshock Susie will straight Up throw their weapon, which means that down the line Susie may stay withaut a weapon and also start messing up your plans more like making Noelle not do what you order.
Heck, devious Susie could already do multiple things like using rude busters against the wall, attacking with less power, hurting anyone in the team.
And with Kris, the red Buster kills you in ANY fight, not just sans. It's basically Kris putting fake acts so you die.
Oh yeah Noelle also says to Kris that he should had uf himself if you go out of obliteration at a certain point after killing snowy. Yeah there is things, is just that you need to look out for them.
Fell Sans has Karma in Obliteration as opposed to Pacifist
That's certainly a nice detail
59:15 Red Buster is a troll, thanks to Kris's "deceitful" trait. It brings fake acts that are meant to hinder the player
1:06:52 Get ready for the most brutal death in all Undertale/Deltarune
He has kr in neutral run too
Just thought I'd point out a few things you missed on this run. They are optional, but I thought they were cool enough to be pointed out anyway.
1: the reason the red buster shot you was because of the deceitful condition Kris has, which gives you fake acts that will be used to attack you. I'm pretty sure that only applies to red buster, but it might apply to other acts.
2: there is also a way to give Susie a red status effect thing. If you chose "shut up" after killing lesser dog, you get a second dialogue option where you can say "I want you dead." This would make Susie completely give up on working with you, and give her the disobedient effect.
3: if you kill fell sans with ice shock, you'll get a unique way of killing him, that probably being why sans told us to get an ice weapon.
Also if you kill fell sans with iceschock while susie has the devious status she will throw her weapon away and lose it
ALSO if you wait in the room after getting your soul back, wait for a bit and well.....
@@LouX453And what
So what is the worst possible Obliteration Route?
@@legendgames128Devious obliteration route
I kept accidentally abandoning this route because I didn't think to go back for Lesser Dog, I literally thought Susie was just like "nope we're skipping this room and never coming back."
bloodshed
a lot of people thought that
Your first mistake was thinking you don't have the power to disobey Susie
0 iq moment
Same for me but the little mole was hiding in waterfall so i look around and saw him and i said "there you are you little fucker"
Fells death is something so unexpected and creepy
He just Laughs and Laughs until he's nothing but Blood and shattered bones
He really doesnt fear death
Noelle with ice shock: nuh uh
This was the most disturbing part i saw
Sans Fels normal death is so overdone it's anoying, that's why i make Noelle Proceed all over him, that death don't give me genuine cringe as his normal death do
@@theprinceofawesomeness Kind of true. I get it's Underfell, but with the over-the-top edge, I just can't take it seriously. The IceShock death is much more chilling (punintentional)
your spelling is so underdone it's annoying@@theprinceofawesomeness
The Lesser Dog betrayal kill is not only betrayal, but strategic as well.
Also, when you made Kris attack Susie, I could just imagine the horror on their face as they unwillingly began to swing a *KAAWWWAAAADDDDD*
I never thought this could get worse, and then RynoGG just shattered the barrier of what I thought was possible.
I have tested betray killing the dog and it took more time and effort than normal killing even then i knew which options to chose.
I find it as a fun fact and hopefully future plot point that you can Spare Susie with out aborting Obliteration
@@theprinceofawesomeness Huh. Well, that's an interesting fact, I never knew it was better to just attack mindlessly than to lower its guard and then attack like a cold-blooded killer.
Sparing Susie (among other things) might make for one of the better Obliteration Route endings.
NOT THE KWAD 💀
@@legendgames128 i had to go back and test again since i didn't write it down but the exact number is that it takes 8 turns for betray killing, 5 ACT and 3 FIGHT, (it could be a 9th if you don't do enguth damage), this is using the Clean Pan and hitting all quad somewhere in the eye thing (margin of 2 for perfect), if you only FIGHT it takes a Total of 6-7 turns assuming you deal 30 or more damage against the shield (quad Crit is a max of 67, shield have high defence).
there is a "MEGA" betray, if you get it's Marcy meter to 100% you only need to deal damage once, but it takes 7 turns, 6 ACT, and 1 FIGHT. Susie calls you out if you do this so i guess it's true betray.
if you can hit quads almost on the spot then Betray is more effort
@@theprinceofawesomeness Total betrayal takes the same number of turns as mindless attacking? Huh, so it is roughly equal to mindlessly attack as it is to be a double-crossing backstabbing piece of-
7:20 the way shayy's face immediately shifts from a slight smile to just laughing from one frame to another without any buildup is what gets me
C o n t e n t
Jeez, watching Susie let the intrusive throughts out was WILD.
My eyes widened when I saw her snap.
@@BookWormYurifell sans did brag about and enjoy killing a child, so its damn well justified
fell off sans
Very true
real
Oof
@@Sans40910YOU KNOW YOU FELL OFF!!
@@acoolguyREAL lol but you still lost with 23 deaths on my fight
fun fact:
in the fight at 22:10 if u kill only 1 of the dog and spare the other, something funny happens
also,if u use iceshock to kill UF sans, theres special dialouge
Batter up
To get whole new interaction (and potentially whole new route in ch4) you need to do this:
(spoilers, obviously, but yall don't care I guess)
(I'm REALLY surprised why no one pointed this out yet)
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1. After dog fight, pick "Shut Up" and "I want to kill you"
2. Ice Shock on Sans
Ice Shock does have it's own thing if you don't do step 1, but only step 1 makes noticeable difference
@@fluboxerfirst one came naturally to me because, since the weird run In deltarune has you choose the edgy option often, i chose to be rude to susie
I was under the impression you had to use ice shock, tbh. that's what the wiki says, anyway.
Batter up
Btw, you can only kill Dogaressa, cuz if you kill Dogamy first, then you can't spare her
OH MY GOD THE BLUSTER BLADE IS WHERE THE WIND COMES FROM IN JERRY'S FIGHT AAAAA
Oh, that’s really cool.
36:11 It's interesting that even though only Kris in the party, Susie still uses our Tension Points for Rude Buster.
fun fact, if you use jerry's blade and land a perfect hit causing a group hit, it can also hit enemies that would dodge out of the way, landing on fell sans will hit him back into place allowing for the other hits to land to
Hey shayy, you missed a few secrets. Back at the lesser dog fight, if you kill them by using a betrayal kill, and survive Susie’s attack, you can attack them and it makes them “devious.” Also, try using ice shock on sans when he can be killed after the final attack.
A betrayal kill is not necessary
you specifically have to tell susie to shut up and then say you want her gone or something similar lol.
basically just have to be an ass to her lol
Honestly, I never expected an MGR and Jojo reference to be coming from Jerry out of every characters in this game.
44:51
I have the natural ability to harden my response into physical trauma!
That is definitely the line shayy
The reason Susie uses Red Buster on Kris is cause when Kris uses their soul to power her up their soul is visible so Susie actually aims for the soul. That's why everyone gets damaged from Susie doing that, she was trying to potentially get rid of the soul... which doesn't work out.
The whole ( 5:20 to 12:30 ) interaction for me is my favorite of all the chapters. There's something so powerful in seeing this scene, seems realistical based on what they've gone through in this route.
Moments like this are why I think this is the best geno route I've seen in fangames
And the best part is, the characters also try to sabotage you
I love me a little challenge instead of running rampant in the og Genocide Run
@@brawlmaster0190a little extra challenge is fun after all, if they were all cooperative and allowed you to quickly murder everybody itd get pretty boring
28:26 put this on 2x speed, and every rapper in existence shall be SILENCED
44:50 NANOMACHINES, SON.
46:56 FINALLY. DELTATRAVELER RISING REVENGANCE
I can't believe that's actually in the game.
ok
Red and yellow
Fun fact you can Spare Susie normally with out Aborting Obliteration, you sadly don't get any reaction from her by doing so
Maybe that shows the goals of the “player” controlling kris, whether their goal is to grow stronger or just chaos
@@chezux979 it's interesting that the choose exist, i do hope that in the future we can further elaborate to the characters what we want. it's a huge task to code in but i feel we need to explain our self to them.
i feel this to be true for the actual real Deltarune too, that we need to explain our self at some point
37:17 If you answer "Shut up", Susie will get mad not a Kris, but *you.*
Then she will ask why did you try to kill her, and you can answer that question.
But i'll let you discover by yourself what happens after that.
Then she becomes devious
@@brawlmaster0190she dont ask devious in shay gameplay ?
@@Ink_Akane_Kurokawa Because he chose "you hit me???" instead of "shut up" and then "I want you dead"
That's what makes her devious because she gets pissed off at the player
i find it really funny tbh because near the end of the video Shayy mentions that section 1 doesn't have a super crazy genocide ver of the boss and like.
i played it recently and flowey (section 1 boss) actually gets EASIER in obliteration lmao. like it ends up being way faster.
Arguably the same actually applies to Underfell Sans, even with the karma effect.
@@funcoolfunfun Karma roughly applies the same kind of damage overall as if you were doing pacifist run, but the damage rise from LV is definitely through the roof lol
It gets easy because you can kill flowey with three red bustera
Flowey beat the shit put of me on my first run
Random stuff I wanted to mention (also Jerry fight)
1) 22:20 There's hidden dialogue for killing one and sparing the other. No spoilers from me.
2) 37:15 Picking "Shut up" and later "I want you dead" does something special.
3) I can't count to three.
4) 44:44 Jerry the Reaper's nanomachines monologue
5) 46:08 Standing Here I Realize it's all JoJo reference
6) 59:10 "Red Buster" (not to confuse with "Rude Buster") is an attack that is caused by Kris's Deceitful status.
7) 1:06:05 Use Ice Weapon or something (Blue Sans mentioned it)
you need to use "ice" weapon, not pacify him with "sleep mist"
Snow time for Red Sans - a hint kinda@lemons38
That "i can't count to three" makes me think about valve...
That Jerry fight was the best thing ever convinced in an undertale/deltarune fangame. Nothing can top this.
MAGIC, HUMAN. IT HARDENS IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA. YOU CAN'T HURT ME, KRIS!
This fangame just gets better and better, outstanding work, really
I wonder if you can just keep relentlessly attacking sans until he gets tired. I’m sure he can’t dodge forever. Now where have I heard that before?
I think he can which doesn’t make sense (if we’re going off Time between each battle or during each battle)
This is by far my favourite section of the game both the pacifist and obliteration route are insane with alot of content!
Personally disagree, but hey I respect your opinion (although I’m mostly referring to the obliteration path when I say this, because I actually really like the pacifist route in this section lmao)
@@thenyan3095The genocide route was a letdown because no one really seems shocked by anything Kris does since they tell them what is happening. Even before that only Noelle seems affected then apparently not being affected at all.
they literally contradict themselves several times in the obliteration route and rynogg got lazy, she made everyone unaffected besides the “devious” susie status, susie got pissed at sans for killing a little kid acting like they didnt murder two children in cold blood and leave it at that
@@mechamedegeorge6786 yeahhh I think that’s mostly because of the fact that the dialogue is not very changed from pacifist, and that the route is not changed from pacifist in general, the evil routes of UT/DT have VERY different dialogue interactions, boss fights etc and it also specifically gets rid of all the comedic moments which this section just.. doesn’t do? And it just really messes with the tone in general,
And it’s weird because section 2 absolutely NAILED this for the most part and even then, the preview for section 3 was going in a really nice direction before they decided that the 3 would just.. continue being a team and just play along with killing things, and it’s especially weird because they straight up know that it’s not Kris they’re speaking to anymore
Although one thing I want to point out is that there is a chance that this was done to save time, I’m no computing expert but making a game is probably really difficult, so maybe she made the changes in the OB more minimal just to take a shortcut? But who knows that’s just speculation
@@thenyan3095 tbh I think the section may have been slightly rushed, I've heard a dev say they considered a separate scene if you ended the obliteration route by sparing GG!Sans. Which tbh is kind of jarring because it feels like Susie should call you out for it, like after all of that you spare the guy who boasted about killing Suzie, iirc the scene is basically the same as sparing them normally which is also very weird considering other exits from the Obliteration route have different cutscenes/dialogue.
I do understand the characters progressively getting less bothered and desensitized to the trolling considering how LOVE is explained in Undertale as "The more you kll, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself the more capacity you have to hurt". But the tone of the Obliteration route feels a bit weird because of the comedic moments still being there, and especially post-Kris sleeping the characters act more similarly to pacifist (I understand if the endings of the sections are the same but for example snowgrave derailed a lot of chapter 3), maybe it's just me but the, tone of the first part of the Section (pre-Kris sleep) and the second part of it feel very different. Still really liked the game.
Missed things:
1. Devious susie
2. Vessel secret
3. Snowman room secret
4. Iceshock sans kill
Stuff I found while playing:
-There is "a room between" the snowman room and the directions room
-If you go back after the dark forest you can find a party of snowdrakes
-You can go back to the ruins door and the hotdog stand for new dialogue.
-Getting 1st place in uno gives you the silver key
-You can give Papyrus the egg for a "Papyrus charm" armor
13:53 “Yo Red Buster?” *Smiles of evil”
EVERYONE KNOWS [[Jerry]] IS KNOWN FOR HIS HIGH DEFENSE
"i was watching my favorite frog youtuber , but my closet got replaced by a grey door and now i'm here!"
I think the most important thing about Susie... Is I think when they Killed Underfell Sans, they didn't care about what happens next... They seem to just want to get this over with at this point
I personally believe killing Sans shouldn't give you any EXP, because it's kinda justified, at least on the least violent neutral route. Snowdin would be ten times safer without this guy around.
Maybe it comes from his other kills
@@mechamedegeorge6786i feel like its more of dustsans thing
Thats not how exp works.
@@LizardKingRequiem From gameplay standpoint it isn't, narratively - yes.
Let me guess, The undertale yellow kill? Where you get no exp from killing Ceroba on True Pacifist? we ain't justice 😭
"I'm sparing myself" I CANT BRO- I AM DYING OF LAUGHTER
STANDING HERE, I REALIZE
YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME, TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
BUT WHO'S TO JUDGE THE RIGHT FROM WRONG
1:14:12
The only word to describe Kris during this part is SLAYYYYY
Since you completed it here is rest of the Obliterstion route endings
**Guide for Deltarune section 3 Obliteration route**
# **major spilers ahead**
|| # Normal Obliteration ending
Kill everyone normaly||
|| # *Snow Grave Obliteration ending*
Kill Sans using Noelle's Ice Schock||
|| # **True Snowgrave ending / Susie throws her wepon away**
When you fight Susie you gotta kill her then choose this dialoge
Shut up
I want you dead
After that she will become "Devious" and has a chance to disobey your actions but Noelle will get **stronger**, after that you gotta kill Sans with Noelle's Ice Schock
You will see new dialoge, cutscene, etc based on your Obliteration ending||
If you have any question please ask when he get's the time he will asnwer you
Btw, ut sans addresses the iceshock thing on his shop when you talk to him about fell sans after the true snowgrave obliteration ending
Shayy * procceds to genocide*
*goku appears* " So, I've heard you're pretty strong"
Killing Jerry in Deltatraveler is the best battle in all of Undertale or Deltarune history, the Katana is a cool weapon as well, it's not a Blood Badana (Pink Ribbon), but it's still cool
I love how when susie gets to zero hp she is just down like in deltarune both when she is in your party, and when she fights you with lancer
Section 4's Obliteration Route is going to be gut wrenching.
hell yeah
You came here to see Shayy figth Fell Sans. I came here to see Shayy figth Senator Jerry. We are not the same
I think this fangame is really cool and interesting but what I really dont like is how okay susie and noelle apparently are with kris killing everything they see. Yeah its us controlling kris and not them doing it and they even told susie and noelle but I still think they should be doing a lot more to stop kris from murdering everyone
To be fair, there's only so much they can actually do without outright killing Kris. And they don't know about saving and reloading, so to them, whatever happens is permanent, even if we know it's not necessarily so
@@funcoolfunfun True
In Undertale, sans in the judgement hall says that the more LV or LOVE increases, the more it becomes easier for the person to hurt others more.
@@funcoolfunfunwell, for one, susie could simply grab kris and pull them away from nearby enemies
And what are they gonna do exactly
Susie herself said Kris hits like a truck
Doing that would be a death sentence.
And they also kinda wanna go back to their home too. I think while they value the life of other monsters they also have some sense of self preservation(e.g Susie sparing herself to not get killed by you).
I think genocide Jerry figth was the most epic figth in deltatraveler so far
I WAITED FOR THIS TO COME OUT, LITERALLY CHECKED EVERY COUPLE HOURS! thank you for the stream, streamer (I want more)
Same
bro thank you for the video, I abandoned Obliteration route because I wanted to abort it in this cave and I did that when I reached Sans and Paula
i just realized that this thumbnail positions sans’ face similar to that every enemy is sans thumbnail
that’s genius lmao
46:30 STANDING HERE, I REALIZE
YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY
I cannot wait for the next section! I am so hyped! 💜
By the way things are right now, any special world that isn't undertale based will maybe have different geno bosses, or maybe section 2 was special just to give lore for section 3.
Finally its out thanks for filming this
28:27 eminem is jealous of how fast shayy spoke here
Fighting lesser dog in the obliteration route have more testing your morality than hitting monster kid.
Wait, What would happen if susie is in low HP and we don't have any HP Recovery in our inventory, Would we actually kill her in this 36:55
Edit: It has been debunked that when she reaches zero HP, She can't die and still mercy herself out of the battle
Susie just beating sans to death out of sheer rage
Refer back to this comment. I have a prediction!
The heart to heart under the pillow talks about being tethered to Kris, and you then create a custom designed human... The next chapter is going to the Link to the Past universe... is this game gonna pull a Link/Dark Link, and have the player's soul control the custom entity? That feels like a reasonable prediction. I could see it happening... but tell me if I'm wrong when Deltatraveler gets it's next chapter.
46:54 best moment in the entire history of Shayy
my disbelief only grew the farther I got in the jerry fight on my playthrough
i love how you can just tell Susie you did it for the vine
Loving this playthrough
1:06:11
I want to repeat something InvincibleNuke from the stream chat said right here for Sans's death:
"bro's jaw dropped"
Jerry is the best boss in gaming history
Susie in Deltarune chapter 1: lol murder is fun
Susie in this game:
Tbh that fell sans fight was so easy compared to Paula
TRUE I STILL DIDnt bEAT
PAULA
Fun fact: Next section is literally a link to the past. (ft. Zelda)
P.S.: You can tell that it's from zelda a link to the past by seeing the text. See The Legend of Zelda: A Link to The Past for difference.
18:45 i wonder what happens here if you progress the fight as you would in pacifist, since snowy is dead here
From my experience, I haven't been able to spare it.
honestly i believe if a game makes a "genocide" route make it as "fluffed" (you know what i mean i just like to be PG when i type) up as possible because if you do then less people will do said route and if they do they WILL feel bad about doing it and if they DONT then they need help/need therapy/whatever is needed for people who cant feel emotions or whatever problem they have so what i am saying is i like how they made the Obliteration Route in this even if i dont like the content of it. also i love how they give ways to be funny while you play it even if it is a dark funny like the "doing it for content" bit
Shayy , I remember you’re genocides
Shayy sounds like a tankman when voicing underfell sans in the fight.
If you stay in the room you make the vessel long enough, you can see something cool
A funny thing happens if you spare Dogamy after killing Dogaressa.
DAWG I STARTED CRYING WHEN YOU HIT SUSIE 😭😭
This is too much for me, attacking Susie is where I'd draw the line and stop the "Obliteration" lol
I don’t think i would’ve gotten past the earthbound section, but had I gotten here i would’ve stopped at lesser dog. It just feels cruel and I could never bring myself to do it
The obliteration route doesn't require you to attack Susie
Even if you choose to, you have the option to apologize
Dude, I probably would’ve stopped after seeing Kris and Susie breakdown like that.
Call it cheesy, but after seeing these characters that I’ve liked since I played CH1 all the way back in high school, just breakdown like this because of *my* actions. It flat out just makes me wanna erase my obliteration save and continue to play as a pacifist. I’d rather just be the man who is taking someone free will, rather than being that AND a murderer.
That Jery fight is mad making me want to replay metal gear rising!
That game was fun!
Very great video Shayy! There is one thing you had missed during the sequence of going back for the soul just before you leave. When you wait around 5-ish minutes, the vessel will show up under the large bed in the other room
This story line is awesome and really interesting
This is so perfect timing cus i just finished watching the pacifist route ❤
shayy when dogami and dogaressa ask if you human tell them that u are and leave only 1 of them alive in the battle then spare and there will be a secret easter egg
THAT JERRY FIGHT HAD ME SCREAMING
WAIT i thought the "content" was as in "feeling content" like calm and peace or some shit but that's fucking funny
I'm so excited for the legend of zelda link of the past section... the bloodbath will be IMMACULATE
been refreshing ur page until this popped up this fangames good
44:45
shay truly has f'ed with this Jerry...
I fucking love the MGR:R reference in the Jerry fight. I 100%ed it and I will say it is one of my favorite games
56:55 oh no Noelle doesn't have the icicle lmao, Shayy playing on hard mode
Haven't seen it yet but I'm REEEEALY hoping the Jerry fight is here
WELCOME TO THE UNDERGROUND
Not gonna lie I'm ironically more intrigued to see where the Obliteration Route goes as it seems that the group's becoming more aware as the story goes on that Kris well and truly isn't in control and are now starting to fight back against it. Wonder if this will end with Kris, Suzie, and Noelle fighting against the Vessel with the Soul or ad nauseam and if it's the former I can imagine Kris, Suzie, and Noelle are gonna be broken as hell at the end of all of this. Maybe we might even see Kris or Noelle break into tears with all the blood on their hands now, both metaphorically and physically.
46:08 jerry underfell is stronger than sans, you literally need multiple people to take him down, even then it takes all the energy out of kris (i think cause of the dialogue and sprite)
Standing here, i realize. That it became canon (the jerry jokes that shayy made)
NANOMACHINES, SON! THEY HARDEN IN RESPONSE TO PHYSICAL TRAUMA
I wonder was the Jerry It Has To Be This Way exclusive to naming yourself Shayy.
No it isn’t, I’ve seen a lot of other people do it
red buster = busts red, your soul is red, that's so clever
44:47 to 47:28 has got to be the funniest and best part of this entire video (imo of course)
THIS IS THE GREATEST HIGH!