Don't know if it will help but try turning the front sling post back out a half a turn. Sometimes the factories take them in too far & it does make a difference with pressure on a polymer stock. Learned the hard way. 👍
Hi Who_tee_who, This is supposed to be a very accurate long range caliber and should be shooting much better groups even with factory ammo. I would start by checking if your barrel is touching the stock, secondly I would properly clean the barrel because I have seen carbon build up have a huge impact on group size.
The 6.8 Western concept is good and sound except until you shoot the 27 Nosler. As an old 270 WB fan, the 27 Nosler is what it takes to logically beat the old 270 win. The 6.8 western' s 5 types of ammo are all made by one company, Winchester with Browning badging. That was my first flag of caution, though I do wish it well and hope it succeeds. As it is now, it really doesn't bring much more usability than a 270 WSM. Try the Nosler and really see what the next best is about as it even beats my Roy.
I just bought a 6.8 Western based upon the ballistics. My first gun was a 25 06 back in 1970. So I’m not afraid of trying a lesser available cartridge. I wanted a 270 class rifle and this is the better option ballistically. I opted for the browning mountain pro. I’m optimistic it will be a good rifle. Love your shows, keep up the good work. CDH
Spent half a day at the range a couple weeks ago before I found what my Savage 110 in .270 liked. Nearly drove me mad! Then again, a day at the range is still better than a day at work!
Enjoy learning this more about this one, seems to be good for hunting most anything. Thanks WTW For sharing this new and exciting caliber. Good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 👍🇺🇸
Wow! You let it cool down. Im impressed. Now streach it out to 10 minute rests between shots & get that "cold bore" accuracy as best you can with factory ammo. Which ISNT the greatest to begin with. Any varience over 10 fps disqualifies it from being "premium". Hot chambers/bores also affect pressure/ velocities/ accuracy. The science behind it all is staggering. Ive been at it over 60 years & still learning.
I know you have concerns about terrorizing Heavy Metal's new dog, but you shoot better from that old wire spool at his range than you do at the new range... lol. It might be a matter of comfort in your seating/firing position that's throwing you off just a bit... just a thought...
Warne rings are made right here across town from me near Portland, Oregon. I stopped in and bought some and they mounted my scope for me....pretty cool that you have some too!
Warne bases, rails, and rings in my opinion are the best on the market for the value and quality of the products you receive. There customer service is excellent too.
The only thing I use Winchester ammo for is range shooting and practice. When I'm hunting I go straight to my gamekings. It's been my experience there are never any good groups when I shoot Winchester ammo. Even your groups prove match and Winchester don't go together. My experience you gotta pay to play. If you want tight groups be ready to shell out some mulla.
If you want the best groups then you have to avoid factory ammo and hand load it taylored to your riffle. That means fire forming the brass to the chamber of the rifle, testing different bullets and lots of time and money. When I shot PRS I ran bergers loaded on Lapua brass and CCI bench rest primers. If you want factory loaded ammo matchkings and gamekings are your best. Most consistent loads I've seen came from black hills.
Consider glass bedding the rifle if it has not been done yet. I have gone through much frustration with a couple different rifles that could not shoot as accurate as I like. If I cannot cover three shots with a dime, it is not accurate yet. I have known others who's guns could not shoot accurately until the glass bedded it. Costs about $100. It worked for mine.
Sig Sauer I believe has a load for it now. Try scrubbing the barrel with JB Bore it’s a very fine lapping compound that I’ve had great success with to help remove copper fouling and smooth out the bore.
Paul, actually, thats the FIRST thing that should be done w any new bbl BEFORE the 1st bullet is put down it. ALL factory bbls have some crap left in them from the factory. Once fired that crap is driven into the bore. Bad JU JU from then on. Polishing the chamber & Freebore in the throat first also helps a LOT. I use the appropriate size copper phosphate brush with a patch covered in the J.B. and the 1st section of the cleaning rod w a drill to polish the chamber/ freebore. AFTER a through cleaning first. After polishing another thourough cleaning w Sweets. The polished freebore helps the bullet engage the riflings smoother for better accuracy. Also run a LIGHTLY oiled patch ( 1>2 drops) through on the last pass & LEAVE the oil in there. Acts like a "fouling shot". Also preserves the metal from corrosion ESPECIALLY in humid environments. Fanatic about cleaning the bbls after every shoot. Never had even a mediocer bbl go bad.
@@tristantimothy1004 good tip which I follow on certain barrels. I’ve never had to lap or polish a Tikka barrel and I have had and still have many that out shoot most custom built rifles. Now the economy rifles are another story, my Ruger American 6.5 CM had a very rough bore. Cleaned and test fired had a 2” group, I then JB the bore with a patch over a jag for about 20 patches. Decreased group size to .75” and gets better with every cleaning.
I had a TC compass do this with me before. I took the stock off and found a bit of rubbing on the barrel, sanded down the stock a bit and it did much better. Later I swapped it out to a Boyd's AT1 and it really got better.
Being a long time .270 Win user but never really loading above 130 grain for myself I am really interested in the 6.8 Western with its 1:8 twist and ability to stabilize 160-175 grain bullets for an all around crossover one gun for elk and deer 🦌 out west.
I had bought some rings that fit pic rails but I was running Weaver rails. The Warne rings fit my Weaver rails and they gave me the finesse tips on mounting the rings and scope as they mounted them for me
Awesome video buddy still waiting to book a date with the 50 cal on a doe also Winchester used to say the we’re using bergara barrels in the xpr I have a story about that
Interesting results. All good bullets. Browning was the clear winner. Break out the 350 Legend and 450 Bush on that 200 yard range Who Tee! Love too those drops. Keep up the great work young man!
The advantage for copper ammo is at crazy fast velocities. When lead is going too fast it will blow apart. The copper holds together way better. Think 4,000 ft/s and higher.
I hand load but I really enjoy these factory ammo comparisons you do Adam. Any of those brands are minute of dead deer! As to why the groups weren't as tight as many others you've compared could simply be down to the fact that the rifle just needs more pills sent down the tube. Who knows. Either way the XPR as you have shown previously is a great bang for buck (pardon the pun) rifle for sure. Thanks for sharing!
So, 6.8mm is about .268 inches. Hmmmm. Nope. I'll keep my .270. Sounds like more bells and whistles. Who_Tee_Who, you are like my Dad. All the newest, latest and greatest gadgets. I guess that's why I like your channel!
6.8 is just the name of the cartridge. It fires projectiles that measure .277", the same as your .270, they both fire .277" projectiles. Or in other words, they fire the exact same diameter bullet. The difference is that the faster twist of rifles chambered in 6.8 Western allow for the use of heavier bullets, and the greater case capacity of the 6.8 Western vs the .270 Win means that the 6.8 Western is going to have more energy.
Missed the live so I will watch it now! I would say something is amiss here on this ammo test! I am not a gunsmith or not even close to an expert but I would say that rifle may need a little tweaking. Still love the videos WTW so keep em coming brother!
I used a winchester stealth in 6.8 with the copper impact this year. Buck flipped over dead at 110 yards. Good cold bore zero and clean bore. Love the round and the ammo!
That “match” ammo seemed like they were anything but match. The 175 grain was the best grouping and being the heaviest would definitely be my go-to for hunting. Heavier round and more accurate.
Just a comment on an older video. Ive got 2 XPR rifles in 6.8 western. One standard, and a Grayboe stock model. Neither print groups worth a darn. Tried 4 different ammo offerings. Changed scopes, mounts, base. Did all the standard stuff. I may have to get one bedded, probably the grayboe model. See if it makes an improvement. 😊
Great shooting again. I think that 6.8 western is a great round for deers. I have never used one , but all i hear is good about them. Thanks and you have a blessed day !
That rifle shoots like that because of the floppy plastic stock on it.. trust me.. you need something quality thats overly stiff and perfectly bedded. get yerself a kkc blank from norway and have it fitted by someone competent.. it will turn that rifle into a 1000 yard rifle instantly..
Check your stock mounts, if barrel is touching the stock etc. A piece of wooden dowel a smidgen larger in diameter of the barrel wrapped with sand paper will open up the stock channel, (Full Floating). Sometimes a little JB weld to bed the lug makes a huge difference. Instead of a complete bed job. Of course a full bed is best. I ran into this with a CZ 22-250. A call to CZ yielded the technique of placing a small amount of JB weld around the mounting lug in the stock. I since have traded that rifle. It did make a difference in the accuracy. Also check the crown. If you see a bad spot you can crown it with a little polishing compound and a brass screw in a drill. This or just return it to Winchester stating the accuracy problem.
All the groups seem about the same, it's probably the best that particular rifle can do, not great but plenty good for hunting out to a reasonable distance
Got here 20 min. too late, for the live stream, so had to watch the rerun. Love the 6.8 Western. I think, the cold barrel won. I could be wrong, because I have no idea how consistent your cool downs were between cartridges. I've seen groups like those before, and it's often been a warmer barrel. Expensive shoot Who Tee. As for fur, any and all are good to go for hunting.
I was thinking about barrel temperature too, only I’d be tempted to run 3 boxes through it might quick and get that barrel nice and hot and then let it cool down nice and slow. I think the point of aim will shift but maybe some of the stresses will come out of the barrel and it’ll not move as much as is heats up in subsequent shooting. Also like the shooter with the swivel being in to far I’d check that too just for drill.
If I don't give 5 minutes between groups my bergara b14 hunter will start throwing them everywhere. Basically 5 minutes brings the outside of the barrel down close to ambient temp.
@@jbradley500 with steel there’s a heat treatment process called normalizing where the steel is repeatedly heated and cooled until it finds a relaxed resting position. I am just curious about this in rifles and if firing 50ish maybe 150ish rounds in quick succession might relax the barrel a little bit making it group a little better after the cool down. Normally the temperatures involved in normalization are far beyond what a typical firearm will ever see but there’s also the pressure component that normal steel doesn’t experience, so maybe the rifle will shoot better if it’s “broke in” sort of thinking? I don’t know but it might be an interesting experiment to see if anything improves.
I know this is a little late but I grabbed the 6.8 from Christensen arms and I have shot 3 factory loads and a custom woth staball 6.5 and the 165gr pill with aub half jnch groups on all loads. Great upgrade from the 270 in my opinion.
Seems like something isn't right. You shoot better than these groups. I am sure the round has to have much better potential with these quality loadings. Your Winchesters have shot sub-moa in other calibers. This rifle has done better I believe. You may need to check all the screws with scope & action.
@@ChristopherKnN , You have a good point. Ive found adding support to the front helps a LOT. I add a row of steel balls in the channels & use liguid steel to set em in place. Does add weight but RADICALLY improves them. Have also used fiberglass arrow shafts cut to length in the channels & liquid steeled them in. Not as heavy but definately stiffens up a floppy forearm. Adding s handful of BBs to the hollow rear w epoxy to lock em in also helps. I use liquid steel mostly. That stuff NEVER cracks/breaks.
I saw your first video on that gun . It some way better than that . The gun threw similar groups out of all loads. I had an old Remington 700 chambered in 300 wsm do the same thing. Front action screw had backed out about 10 lbs letting action on and barrel move under recoil . Figured out problem went back to doing business.
Thanks for doing this video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Been using my 6.8 a little over a year now. It's been lights out accurate with 175g gamekings. Was thinking of switching to the 162g coppers (cause that's all I can find right now 🙄) but this video told me exactly what I needed to know. Appreciate you putting in the dirt work!
It honestly seems like there’s something wrong with either the gun itself, like the stock or barrel, or the ammo itself. Very seldom have I seen a rifle that wouldn’t shoot a group better than that with 5 different loads. There either has to be something off with the rifle, or it just really doesn’t like those loads. I’d be interested to see how some handloads do in that rifle. I’ve seen you shoot tons of really great groups, so I really don’t think it was you. See if you can do some ladder tests and develop a load for that rifle!
I think the barrel you are shooting the ammo from has just as much to do with accuracy as the different types of ammo you use. Proper powder load development for the particular gun your shooting from will iron out those accuracy issues.
I'll take anything you can throw at RUclips on the 6.8 Western 200 yd test would be great I really wanted to hunt with that caliber this year but it's not in the pocketbook I've been going back and forth between the 6.8 Western 30 ought 6 or 338 mag I'm running a Browning blr in 308 I need to get into a bolt action rifle with a little more get up and go your format on RUclips is excellent any help from your commenters would be great
I have a xpr in 338 win mag only factory ammo i shot is hornady 225sst superformance it shot 5/8" to 3/4" all day everday i have gone thru alot of componants to find a load that works good.i used a lead sled to start and i started having problems with accuracy i bedded the action. That didnt help much. I had several loaded up fer testing i shot off of sand bags the groups looked better hovering around 1 1/4" i took my torq wrench and started at 25"pounds went up in 5 lb increments groups opened up then bam rite around 3/4" groups i beleive they call it torque tunning a rifle. It mite help if you got enough ammo 3 shot group then torque 5 more inch pounds till it tightins up. It wont hurt to try it but let barrel kool off between shooting groups and on all copper bullets you need to clean as much copper out of barrel as u can before shooting any mono bullet. Good video hope i helped thank u bro.
Honestly- check your scope mount. That gun should be more accurate for ya. My AR 15 had a similar experience, and I rechecked my torque specs on my scope mount on my pic rail and my 3MOA groups shrunk to 1.2. You might not be seated properly on your pic rail, or maybe your rings need to be lapped? Good luck!!!
I had and have a few Hawke scopes. The SF I have had some issues. I had two of those scopes do just what is happening with your groups. 240 weatherby mag. Went to the Hawke pro and my groups tightened up. This was with a weatherby accurized rifle. Drove me up the wall until I changed scopes again.
I concur with your thoughts...now what ammo to use with this 6.8 or is it just the rifle 😰 🤞 really I've much worse, but good luck with whichever you choose. Let us know.
Somethings not right because you should be getting way better groups at 100 yards and it’s probably something really simple. Trying to think what it could be. Lot of the guys posted some good ideas of what could be happening here but none the less I’m scratching my head. Thanks for the video.
Some guns don’t group well with hot barrels. All those shots will get the job done on game out to 200 even though I know you have rifles that group much better. I’d probably send that one packing but that’s just me.
I have been watching your videos and something isn’t right. I know you can shoot really well. I would double check your scope mounts and bases. I also don’t know if you are letting your barrel cool down all the way in between each group but if not that barrel will be smoking hot. Hot barrels really affect groups. Just my two cents. Keep the videos coming! Cheers from Montana
I like my xpr mobuc in 30-06. I realize sub 1 inch groups at 100meters with norma or geco ammo but not with the winchester ammo. 6.8 western is not availebale in Belgium.
They were still all kill shot's. If you could only use one rifle and round to hunt deer or a ram with, what would it be? I love my Ruger American, but I'm always afraid the deer will hear that screeching sound. I really want to see you take one with fk brno 7.5, I like handgun hunting best along with my Henry. I only got into bolt action rifle's since I've been watching you. Thanks a lot now I have to buy more gun's, wait that's a good thing. God Bless you and your family and your best friend Paul. Sincerely Ruger Rich
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Take the lead sled and put it in the trash can when you walk out, in promise bipod and bag will change all them groups
Don't know if it will help but try turning the front sling post back out a half a turn. Sometimes the factories take them in too far & it does make a difference with pressure on a polymer stock. Learned the hard way. 👍
Makes since!!!
6.8 Western... Yeee haaw! This should be good. 🤠👍
Those monolithic bullets hollow point is huge under that plastic tip love that. Wish factory 270 came with fast twist barrels
Why was the .264 Winchester magnum forgotten about, that was some cartridge in its day, still is.
Hi Who_tee_who,
This is supposed to be a very accurate long range caliber and should be shooting much better groups even with factory ammo.
I would start by checking if your barrel is touching the stock, secondly I would properly clean the barrel because I have seen carbon build up have a huge impact on group size.
The 6.8 Western concept is good and sound except until you shoot the 27 Nosler. As an old 270 WB fan, the 27 Nosler is what it takes to logically beat the old 270 win. The 6.8 western' s 5 types of ammo are all made by one company, Winchester with Browning badging. That was my first flag of caution, though I do wish it well and hope it succeeds. As it is now, it really doesn't bring much more usability than a 270 WSM. Try the Nosler and really see what the next best is about as it even beats my Roy.
I just bought a 6.8 Western based upon the ballistics. My first gun was a 25 06 back in 1970. So I’m not afraid of trying a lesser available cartridge. I wanted a 270 class rifle and this is the better option ballistically. I opted for the browning mountain pro. I’m optimistic it will be a good rifle. Love your shows, keep up the good work. CDH
ever heard of the 6mm arc. love that round
WTW !!!! That’s some NASTY looking boooolets !!! GOD BLESS YA BROTHER, y’all have a safe weekend !!!
Spent half a day at the range a couple weeks ago before I found what my Savage 110 in .270 liked. Nearly drove me mad! Then again, a day at the range is still better than a day at work!
Enjoy learning this more about this one, seems to be good for hunting most anything. Thanks WTW For sharing this new and exciting caliber. Good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 👍🇺🇸
I lowered the trigger weight on my xpr and it’s amazing, lighter than my browning X-Bolt
Another great vid WTW. Def want to see some long range shooting with the 6.8 Western
Don't forget th the 6.5 C / 6.8 W paper plates test. I have waiting for it.
Wow! You let it cool down. Im impressed. Now streach it out to 10 minute rests between shots & get that "cold bore" accuracy as best you can with factory ammo. Which ISNT the greatest to begin with. Any varience over 10 fps disqualifies it from being "premium". Hot chambers/bores also affect pressure/ velocities/ accuracy. The science behind it all is staggering. Ive been at it over 60 years & still learning.
I know you have concerns about terrorizing Heavy Metal's new dog, but you shoot better from that old wire spool at his range than you do at the new range... lol. It might be a matter of comfort in your seating/firing position that's throwing you off just a bit... just a thought...
Warne rings are made right here across town from me near Portland, Oregon. I stopped in and bought some and they mounted my scope for me....pretty cool that you have some too!
Warne bases, rails, and rings in my opinion are the best on the market for the value and quality of the products you receive. There customer service is excellent too.
That's all I buy, Warne rings and bases and Leupold scopes.
The only thing I use Winchester ammo for is range shooting and practice. When I'm hunting I go straight to my gamekings. It's been my experience there are never any good groups when I shoot Winchester ammo. Even your groups prove match and Winchester don't go together.
My experience you gotta pay to play. If you want tight groups be ready to shell out some mulla.
Every rifle I have shoot Gamekings the best.
If you want the best groups then you have to avoid factory ammo and hand load it taylored to your riffle. That means fire forming the brass to the chamber of the rifle, testing different bullets and lots of time and money.
When I shot PRS I ran bergers loaded on Lapua brass and CCI bench rest primers.
If you want factory loaded ammo matchkings and gamekings are your best. Most consistent loads I've seen came from black hills.
Consider glass bedding the rifle if it has not been done yet. I have gone through much frustration with a couple different rifles that could not shoot as accurate as I like. If I cannot cover three shots with a dime, it is not accurate yet. I have known others who's guns could not shoot accurately until the glass bedded it. Costs about $100. It worked for mine.
I've watched many videos on 3-5 shot groups, and winchester ammo is usually all over the place
Same here 3 shot groups 165 grain winchester 100 yds 3 inch groups going to load some 165 with different powder
Sig Sauer I believe has a load for it now. Try scrubbing the barrel with JB Bore it’s a very fine lapping compound that I’ve had great success with to help remove copper fouling and smooth out the bore.
Paul, actually, thats the FIRST thing that should be done w any new bbl BEFORE the 1st bullet is put down it. ALL factory bbls have some crap left in them from the factory. Once fired that crap is driven into the bore. Bad JU JU from then on. Polishing the chamber & Freebore in the throat first also helps a LOT. I use the appropriate size copper phosphate brush with a patch covered in the J.B. and the 1st section of the cleaning rod w a drill to polish the chamber/ freebore. AFTER a through cleaning first. After polishing another thourough cleaning w Sweets. The polished freebore helps the bullet engage the riflings smoother for better accuracy. Also run a LIGHTLY oiled patch ( 1>2 drops) through on the last pass & LEAVE the oil in there. Acts like a "fouling shot". Also preserves the metal from corrosion ESPECIALLY in humid environments. Fanatic about cleaning the bbls after every shoot. Never had even a mediocer bbl go bad.
@@tristantimothy1004 good tip which I follow on certain barrels. I’ve never had to lap or polish a Tikka barrel and I have had and still have many that out shoot most custom built rifles. Now the economy rifles are another story, my Ruger American 6.5 CM had a very rough bore. Cleaned and test fired had a 2” group, I then JB the bore with a patch over a jag for about 20 patches. Decreased group size to .75” and gets better with every cleaning.
I had a TC compass do this with me before. I took the stock off and found a bit of rubbing on the barrel, sanded down the stock a bit and it did much better. Later I swapped it out to a Boyd's AT1 and it really got better.
I had the same problem with a savage rifle that I had at one time chambered in 7mm-08 I sanded the stock and it ent to shooting same hole groups
May need to strengthen, and bed the stock with epoxy like Devcon or similar to help with accuracy on the 6.8 Western.🎩♠️☯️
I'm getting 1/2 inch groups at 200yards with the Browning 175gr. Tipped GameKing factory loads out of my Browning X Bolt Western Hunter LR rifle.
Being a long time .270 Win user but never really loading above 130 grain for myself I am really interested in the 6.8 Western with its 1:8 twist and ability to stabilize 160-175 grain bullets for an all around crossover one gun for elk and deer 🦌 out west.
I had bought some rings that fit pic rails but I was running Weaver rails. The Warne rings fit my Weaver rails and they gave me the finesse tips on mounting the rings and scope as they mounted them for me
Glad to see something we don’t see very often!
Try reloading. It will give you an idea of why some cartridges are useless.
You should try glass bedding some of your rifles for long range shooting it might help
Awesome video buddy still waiting to book a date with the 50 cal on a doe also Winchester used to say the we’re using bergara barrels in the xpr I have a story about that
Shoot me an email Katie.adam11@gmail.com
Use the Winchester silvertip in my 300 win mag and 270, excellent hunting bullet. Drops the animal every time
Interesting results. All good bullets. Browning was the clear winner. Break out the 350 Legend and 450 Bush on that 200 yard range Who Tee! Love too those drops. Keep up the great work young man!
Coming soon!
The advantage for copper ammo is at crazy fast velocities. When lead is going too fast it will blow apart. The copper holds together way better. Think 4,000 ft/s and higher.
I saw a couple boxes of the Copper stuff at one of my local stores today @ about $53.00 per box.
I hand load but I really enjoy these factory ammo comparisons you do Adam. Any of those brands are minute of dead deer! As to why the groups weren't as tight as many others you've compared could simply be down to the fact that the rifle just needs more pills sent down the tube. Who knows. Either way the XPR as you have shown previously is a great bang for buck (pardon the pun) rifle for sure. Thanks for sharing!
I would like to see a comparison video with the 6.8 Western and 7mm Remington Magnum.
So, 6.8mm is about .268 inches. Hmmmm. Nope. I'll keep my .270. Sounds like more bells and whistles. Who_Tee_Who, you are like my Dad. All the newest, latest and greatest gadgets. I guess that's why I like your channel!
6.8 is just the name of the cartridge. It fires projectiles that measure .277", the same as your .270, they both fire .277" projectiles. Or in other words, they fire the exact same diameter bullet. The difference is that the faster twist of rifles chambered in 6.8 Western allow for the use of heavier bullets, and the greater case capacity of the 6.8 Western vs the .270 Win means that the 6.8 Western is going to have more energy.
@@azredneck7722 To quote Johnny Carson, "I did not know that." 🙂
Nice shooting "little Guy" One day you'll grow into these bigger rifles lmao! Great video WTW. You're awesome!
Missed the live so I will watch it now! I would say something is amiss here on this ammo test! I am not a gunsmith or not even close to an expert but I would say that rifle may need a little tweaking. Still love the videos WTW so keep em coming brother!
That 6.8 has a healthy recoil. I am thinking 7mm Rem Mag. I’ve had good luck with the ballistic silver tips. I’ll want a heavier rifle for it.
I have the 162,165 and 175 grain bullets so far for the 6.8 so far I like the 175 grain bullets the most too
Love the 6.8 western
The Silver Tips looked less stable or slightly keyholed.
I used a winchester stealth in 6.8 with the copper impact this year. Buck flipped over dead at 110 yards. Good cold bore zero and clean bore. Love the round and the ammo!
That “match” ammo seemed like they were anything but match. The 175 grain was the best grouping and being the heaviest would definitely be my go-to for hunting. Heavier round and more accurate.
There are a lot of variables to check and that takes time, patience and of course ... $$$$
Just a comment on an older video.
Ive got 2 XPR rifles in 6.8 western.
One standard, and a Grayboe stock model. Neither print groups worth a darn. Tried 4 different ammo offerings. Changed scopes, mounts, base. Did all the standard stuff. I may have to get one bedded, probably the grayboe model. See if it makes an improvement. 😊
Great shooting again. I think that 6.8 western is a great round for deers. I have never used one , but all i hear is good about them. Thanks and you have a blessed day !
That rifle shoots like that because of the floppy plastic stock on it.. trust me.. you need something quality thats overly stiff and perfectly bedded. get yerself a kkc blank from norway and have it fitted by someone competent.. it will turn that rifle into a 1000 yard rifle instantly..
Check your stock mounts, if barrel is touching the stock etc. A piece of wooden dowel a smidgen larger in diameter of the barrel wrapped with sand paper will open up the stock channel, (Full Floating). Sometimes a little JB weld to bed the lug makes a huge difference. Instead of a complete bed job. Of course a full bed is best. I ran into this with a CZ 22-250. A call to CZ yielded the technique of placing a small amount of JB weld around the mounting lug in the stock. I since have traded that rifle. It did make a difference in the accuracy.
Also check the crown. If you see a bad spot you can crown it with a little polishing compound and a brass screw in a drill. This or just return it to Winchester stating the accuracy problem.
I’d love to see the long range videos WTW! Thanks for sharing brother! Very interesting caliber🤔. I like it man!🤘🏽🤘🏽
I was really interested in the 6.8 Western, now I’m not so sure.
I would definitely try to find the issue with that rifle. It should shoot a lot better than that
I would have to get rid of that rifle. You gave it a fair shake with the ammo variety. That dog don't hunt!
All the groups seem about the same, it's probably the best that particular rifle can do, not great but plenty good for hunting out to a reasonable distance
Got here 20 min. too late, for the live stream, so had to watch the rerun. Love the 6.8 Western.
I think, the cold barrel won. I could be wrong, because I have no idea how consistent your cool downs were between cartridges.
I've seen groups like those before, and it's often been a warmer barrel.
Expensive shoot Who Tee.
As for fur, any and all are good to go for hunting.
I was thinking about barrel temperature too, only I’d be tempted to run 3 boxes through it might quick and get that barrel nice and hot and then let it cool down nice and slow. I think the point of aim will shift but maybe some of the stresses will come out of the barrel and it’ll not move as much as is heats up in subsequent shooting. Also like the shooter with the swivel being in to far I’d check that too just for drill.
If I don't give 5 minutes between groups my bergara b14 hunter will start throwing them everywhere. Basically 5 minutes brings the outside of the barrel down close to ambient temp.
@@jbradley500 with steel there’s a heat treatment process called normalizing where the steel is repeatedly heated and cooled until it finds a relaxed resting position. I am just curious about this in rifles and if firing 50ish maybe 150ish rounds in quick succession might relax the barrel a little bit making it group a little better after the cool down.
Normally the temperatures involved in normalization are far beyond what a typical firearm will ever see but there’s also the pressure component that normal steel doesn’t experience, so maybe the rifle will shoot better if it’s “broke in” sort of thinking? I don’t know but it might be an interesting experiment to see if anything improves.
I know this is a little late but I grabbed the 6.8 from Christensen arms and I have shot 3 factory loads and a custom woth staball 6.5 and the 165gr pill with aub half jnch groups on all loads. Great upgrade from the 270 in my opinion.
Seems like something isn't right. You shoot better than these groups. I am sure the round has to have much better potential with these quality loadings. Your Winchesters have shot sub-moa in other calibers. This rifle has done better I believe. You may need to check all the screws with scope & action.
I was thinking check the torque on the action screws. And I've never been a fan of the lower budget polymer stocks.
@@ChristopherKnN , You have a good point. Ive found adding support to the front helps a LOT. I add a row of steel balls in the channels & use liguid steel to set em in place. Does add weight but RADICALLY improves them. Have also used fiberglass arrow shafts cut to length in the channels & liquid steeled them in. Not as heavy but definately stiffens up a floppy forearm. Adding s handful of BBs to the hollow rear w epoxy to lock em in also helps. I use liquid steel mostly. That stuff NEVER cracks/breaks.
I would like to see you do a comparison between the 6.8 western and 7mm rem mag using 175 grain from both rifles
I saw your first video on that gun . It some way better than that . The gun threw similar groups out of all loads. I had an old Remington 700 chambered in 300 wsm do the same thing. Front action screw had backed out about 10 lbs letting action on and barrel move under recoil . Figured out problem went back to doing business.
Man I was really hoping for some better groups out of that ammo!
Try the same test using the Browning rifle.
Thanks for doing this video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Been using my 6.8 a little over a year now. It's been lights out accurate with 175g gamekings. Was thinking of switching to the 162g coppers (cause that's all I can find right now 🙄) but this video told me exactly what I needed to know. Appreciate you putting in the dirt work!
Appreciate you watching
It honestly seems like there’s something wrong with either the gun itself, like the stock or barrel, or the ammo itself. Very seldom have I seen a rifle that wouldn’t shoot a group better than that with 5 different loads. There either has to be something off with the rifle, or it just really doesn’t like those loads. I’d be interested to see how some handloads do in that rifle. I’ve seen you shoot tons of really great groups, so I really don’t think it was you. See if you can do some ladder tests and develop a load for that rifle!
My thoughts exactly.
Yes 1000 yard vid
Do the long range at least you know I'll watch it lol
I think the barrel you are shooting the ammo from has just as much to do with accuracy as the different types of ammo you use. Proper powder load development for the particular gun your shooting from will iron out those accuracy issues.
I need to check out the 6.8 Western
My x bolt found it pretty much the same as your testing. But did group the heavier bullets best would be touching on the browning 175 grain
I’m a big Sierra bullets fan too! They work great for me, and they’re made just up the road from me!
Good job mate !! 👍
Thanks for watching Martin
@WHO_TEE_WHO ,great video. I'll be testing the 162gr Copper Impacts next plus my 175gr Sierra TGK and 170gr Berger EOL reloads! 💯🇺🇲
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Ole big money now...using nickels instead of pennies lol. Good video keep it up 👍
I can't wait until Remington releases their 6.8 ammo! You know Federal will follow shortly thereafter.
Not sure I'm sold on the 6.8. It reminds me of the nosler calibers that have pretty much faded away
I'll take anything you can throw at RUclips on the 6.8 Western 200 yd test would be great I really wanted to hunt with that caliber this year but it's not in the pocketbook I've been going back and forth between the 6.8 Western 30 ought 6 or 338 mag I'm running a Browning blr in 308 I need to get into a bolt action rifle with a little more get up and go your format on RUclips is excellent any help from your commenters would be great
I have a xpr in 338 win mag only factory ammo i shot is hornady 225sst superformance it shot 5/8" to 3/4" all day everday i have gone thru alot of componants to find a load that works good.i used a lead sled to start and i started having problems with accuracy i bedded the action. That didnt help much. I had several loaded up fer testing i shot off of sand bags the groups looked better hovering around 1 1/4" i took my torq wrench and started at 25"pounds went up in 5 lb increments groups opened up then bam rite around 3/4" groups i beleive they call it torque tunning a rifle. It mite help if you got enough ammo 3 shot group then torque 5 more inch pounds till it tightins up. It wont hurt to try it but let barrel kool off between shooting groups and on all copper bullets you need to clean as much copper out of barrel as u can before shooting any mono bullet. Good video hope i helped thank u bro.
At Display on ice with the granddaughter and I will catch the video afterward
Do we wanna see the long range videos? Duh! Of course 😁
Honestly- check your scope mount. That gun should be more accurate for ya. My AR 15 had a similar experience, and I rechecked my torque specs on my scope mount on my pic rail and my 3MOA groups shrunk to 1.2.
You might not be seated properly on your pic rail, or maybe your rings need to be lapped?
Good luck!!!
I'd like to see a comparison/test between the 6.8 Western and 270 shot mag
Hey WTW great video always enjoy the ammo test on all the rifle calibers. God bless and stay safe🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That dog looks like it has some kick to it.
Miwall has the browning ammo in stock for $39.60 a box.
I had and have a few Hawke scopes. The SF I have had some issues. I had two of those scopes do just what is happening with your groups. 240 weatherby mag. Went to the Hawke pro and my groups tightened up. This was with a weatherby accurized rifle. Drove me up the wall until I changed scopes again.
When you up your Smith and Wesson you should never feel uncomfortable
I concur with your thoughts...now what ammo to use with this 6.8 or is it just the rifle 😰 🤞 really I've much worse, but good luck with whichever you choose. Let us know.
Somethings not right because you should be getting way better groups at 100 yards and it’s probably something really simple. Trying to think what it could be. Lot of the guys posted some good ideas of what could be happening here but none the less I’m scratching my head. Thanks for the video.
Some guns don’t group well with hot barrels. All those shots will get the job done on game out to 200 even though I know you have rifles that group much better. I’d probably send that one packing but that’s just me.
Your XPR was made in portugal, at a plant called Viana; not sure how their barrels are
I would make sure the barrel is free floated. Then bed the recoil lug/ action. Maybe toss in a better trigger
Throw a boyds stock on it and shoot some groups. Helped my 6.5 creedmoor group better.
Boyds stock and trigger job took my ruger m77 in 270 from 3 or 4 moa to 1 moa
@@chrisaerts6489 same with my savage axis. Crazy wat a good stock will do.
I have been watching your videos and something isn’t right. I know you can shoot really well. I would double check your scope mounts and bases. I also don’t know if you are letting your barrel cool down all the way in between each group but if not that barrel will be smoking hot. Hot barrels really affect groups. Just my two cents. Keep the videos coming! Cheers from Montana
The rifle might just need a good clean be worth a try
Another great video I know everybody suggested things I don't I know when the last time you cleaned your Barrel but you might want to try that too
It likes..... what it like
I like my xpr mobuc in 30-06. I realize sub 1 inch groups at 100meters with norma or geco ammo but not with the winchester ammo. 6.8 western is not availebale in Belgium.
They were still all kill shot's. If you could only use one rifle and round to hunt deer or a ram with, what would it be? I love my Ruger American, but I'm always afraid the deer will hear that screeching sound. I really want to see you take one with fk brno 7.5, I like handgun hunting best along with my Henry. I only got into bolt action rifle's since I've been watching you. Thanks a lot now I have to buy more gun's, wait that's a good thing. God Bless you and your family and your best friend Paul. Sincerely Ruger Rich
For a 100yards. Is shoot one hole groups with facotory ammo on 100meters with just bibod and rear bag. That lead sled i dont like at all.