Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD Worth It? | Gen 4 vs. Gen 3

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
  • The latest Gen 4 NVMe SSDs are blazing fast. Capable of reaching speeds of over 7000MB/s Which is why M.2 drives are quickly becoming the go to for DIY PC builders but are they really the best SSD for gaming?
    My top M.2 picks:
    Sabrent: 1TB Gen 3 amzn.to/3wD5rtd
    1TB Gen 4 amzn.to/39Syuza
    1TB Gen 4 (Early) amzn.to/3utrL6P
    Samsung: 1TB 980 Pro amzn.to/39RvFP8 (Gen 4)
    Western Digital: 1TB Black SN750 amzn.to/3fOhrCg (Gen 3)
    Value Picks: 500GB WD Black SN750 amzn.to/3wCRyvi (Gen 3)
    1TB Samsung 980 amzn.to/39SfukB (Gen 3)
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    0:00 NVMe Gen 3 vs. Gen 4
    0:30 What's the difference between PCIe 3.0 and 4.0
    1:29 CrystalDiskMark Speed Test Results
    3:00 Boot to windows test
    3:35 Game load times, Rocket League, GTA V, CS:GO
    4:56 File copy test
    5:46 Conclusions and recommendations
    7:24 Reasons to get a gen 4 NVMe drive
    8:33 Final Thoughts
    Music - Drop off by Chris Doerksen, and Downfall by Chris Doerksen
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    Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD Worth It? | Gen 4 vs. Gen 3
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  • @TechIlliterate
    @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +21

    Must've been hungry 3:22 🍖 Don't Forget to LIKE and subscribe :) Links to NVMe drives are in the description.

    • @maxhughes5687
      @maxhughes5687 3 года назад

      Links to drives you showed us aren't any faster loading a game than old drives.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +2

      @@maxhughes5687 This is true. Looking forward to Windows 11 and direct storage.

    • @maxhughes5687
      @maxhughes5687 3 года назад

      @@TechIlliterate WOW. Will direct storage be able to get around the game engine's slow down of load times. I'm for faster and if the OS really uses gobs of HW I want it. I don't mind the minimum spec to run an OS to be 16 cores and gen4 drives. I find fours cores at 100% and 12 to 20 sitting idle just stupid. 8 channel ram is now. Quad channel is history and dual channel is an antique.

    • @frankholloway7777
      @frankholloway7777 2 года назад +1

      I still prefer 970 Pro 1TB because of it's MLC and 1200 TBW, damn you Samsung why 980 Pro is TLC :(
      And NEVER waste your money on SABRENT or any other less known brands, it's the most vital part of computing, your precious data, right?!

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  2 года назад

      @@frankholloway7777 Yeah It's a shame about the downgrade. seems to be happening to many different brands.

  • @MegaMikey
    @MegaMikey 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much. Very helpful. Couldn't have asked for a better video since i'm grabbing both of these M.2's

  • @nigel2187
    @nigel2187 3 года назад +8

    damn this vid is so high quality, thanks for the info!

  • @scottmestel6146
    @scottmestel6146 3 года назад +1

    Great information thanks for taking the time.

  • @SmokeStudio.
    @SmokeStudio. 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for helping me to decide. Sticking with my Gen 3 drive for now.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  2 года назад +4

      Good idea. Wait for some Win11 reviews and games that can actually take advantage of direct storage.

  • @RichMendoza3056
    @RichMendoza3056 3 года назад +6

    Great job bro, keep up those damn good videos...

  • @sezwo5774
    @sezwo5774 Год назад

    Subscribed. Thanks for an honest review.

  • @DanielA-ff2gf
    @DanielA-ff2gf 2 года назад +1

    So informational. thank you!

  • @denn1363
    @denn1363 4 месяца назад

    Great job brother really helpful video :)

  • @rayyann00r
    @rayyann00r 2 года назад +1

    Thanks the video was very informative. Keep up the good work

  • @tdg215
    @tdg215 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for this video had to like & sub great info

  • @MichaelMolli
    @MichaelMolli 3 года назад +1

    @ 1:14 ... compatibility ... thanks so much. I couldn't find this info anywhere else.

  • @hellohogo
    @hellohogo 3 года назад +15

    This is important information and for me, it’s even more about choosing a motherboard. As a content creator there are so many more good ryzen b550 motherboards that utilize gen 3 but give you thunderbolt than there are x570 boards that give you gen 4 but not much else. Especially since both give you the same gpu speeds if you are using one gpu.

    • @johndoh5182
      @johndoh5182 2 года назад +4

      I guess this depends on how serious of a content creator you are. For those using a typical desktop system from either Intel or AMD, I have to think you want to step up the core counts. Well, in so doing then you should notice more of a difference between drives, but this also depends on your storage config.
      If you're a serious content creator with Threadripper, I have to think faster NVMe drives become more important.
      The advantage of some X570 boards is of course 3 NVMe drives, all of which can operate at gen4 speeds. But even the ones with 2 NVMe run gen4. So for a creator, your OS/programs can be on one NVMe (to the CPU), and you can use another NVMe for your work, whether it's storage or a scratch drive for building files. This is the big advantage of X570 since they can all operate at gen4 speeds.
      I run dual OS, so for me the advantage is both OSs running from NVMe, on different drives. X570 is the best way to do that. I have the MSI X570 MEG Unify. I put Win10 on NVMe RAID on the 2 drives through the chipset. This allows enough speed for DirectStorage even with gen3 drives, so I should be able to use that function. I run Linux off the other NVMe that connects to the CPU.
      B550 is for simple systems, and for most people that's fine. But, you can't run DirectStorage off the 2nd NVMe. In fact it's not very good since it's PCIe gen3 X2. So, even for a high quality gaming system, X570 is better.

  • @jasonatkins1467
    @jasonatkins1467 3 года назад +10

    I've been rockin' Samsung 8 lane gen 3 drives in this machine, booting NVME in Win 7 for a few years. Read speed 6000, write 2700. Hard to tell the difference in anything other than copying, but it would allow you to copy or stream more files over your network to clients simultaneously. I just discovered the Samsung 9A3 drives and picked up a U.2 model on ebay 1/2 price bot my Threadripper Pro build.. That's 4 lanes gen 4 testing at 6800 read, 4000 write. I also use some RAM for disk caching to keep hits off my boot my drive and a 64GB RAMDisk for temp / swap. My new Threadripper Pro RAM much faster than this old X99 machine.

  • @bekhele
    @bekhele 2 года назад

    great vid, helped me a lot!

  • @bignicnrg3856
    @bignicnrg3856 2 года назад +1

    Appreciate the video. Found it very useful. I usually like to stay a general behind so the new guys can work out all the bugs for me haha. Like always wait for a sale

  • @fender6202
    @fender6202 2 года назад

    Great video thanks!

  • @capick1646
    @capick1646 2 года назад +1

    thanks Nick I will go with the gen3 for now.

  • @rgshgorael4249
    @rgshgorael4249 2 года назад

    True 👍 thank you for the test

  • @eliascotrim51
    @eliascotrim51 3 года назад +7

    Very good video! I'm surprised it had so little views, thought this was on the hundred thousands 😆

    • @eliascotrim51
      @eliascotrim51 3 года назад +1

      I mean, the quality of the video definitely is at the hundred thousand views level

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +2

      @@eliascotrim51 Hey maybe it will get there. Thanks :)

  • @Macusercom
    @Macusercom 3 года назад +2

    This got recommended to me. Soon it's gonna 🔥

  • @michaellatta
    @michaellatta 2 года назад +2

    The use case for gen5 is sequential read/write. I would get one as a backup drive (for work) as backing up my 2TB internal drive would be noticeably faster over thunderbolt with one of the gen4 drives.

  • @melvinbilasanobudgetarian3507
    @melvinbilasanobudgetarian3507 2 года назад +1

    Great review brother.
    Now i cand finally decide.
    And will save some. Thanks for your review.

  • @PaulStoffregen
    @PaulStoffregen 2 года назад +11

    Would be really interesting to see how these consumer drives with NAND flash (approx 50-100 microsecond read latency) compare with an enterprise grade or prosumer Intel 905P Optane SSD (approx 10 microseconds read latency). But just playing video games and general use of Windows probably won't have much difference. Applications like databases, powerful servers, and maybe compiling huge C++ code with a CPU having many cores are probably where more IOPS matters.

    • @uncrunch398
      @uncrunch398 Год назад

      With appropriate amount of DRAM, only the initial loading of needed files will benefit. After that, all workload files will be in the read cache within DRAM. Upon writes, created and modified files are written first into an in DRAM buffer; then gradually to storage when it's idling. When everything is async optimized, nothing pauses or slows down for writes either. The difference in performance between runs after initial will (should) not be impacted by storage speed. I suspect such shown in benchmarks are clean runs, with cache cleared, every time to show it.

  • @FaustRSI
    @FaustRSI Год назад +2

    Hi there from 2022! I've recently bought Gen.4 NVMe for my laptop with only 3.0 PCIe support from both motherboard and CPU. But currently I've actually paid LESS for gen 4 than I would have for Gen 3 :)

  • @laron.henderson
    @laron.henderson 2 года назад +5

    Thanks for this video! I'm building my first PC. I picked up Samsung SSD 980 3rd gen. I originally wanted the Gen 4. I went to exchange it and was talking about it with the guy from Best Buy. He said it's not really that much of a difference. So I kept the Gen 3 drive instead of paying the extra $40 got a Gen 4

  • @bensharenli1212
    @bensharenli1212 3 года назад +9

    Nice video, eventually (hopefully) the price for NVMe Gen 4 will come down after enough early adopter tax collected.

  • @GiI11
    @GiI11 9 месяцев назад

    I'm building up a rig to record live instruments with. You just saved me a lot of money, haha!

  • @Liquid-yj1ok
    @Liquid-yj1ok 3 года назад

    Good vid. Here's a like, sub and comment

  • @ulyssesflotildes2632
    @ulyssesflotildes2632 2 года назад +1

    Please make a content about how much SSD storage everyone should get. Thank you! Support!

  • @oldpain7625
    @oldpain7625 Год назад +1

    Black Friday deal made the choice for me. My 980 Pro will be used well into the future.

  • @gsuburban
    @gsuburban 2 года назад

    Yes, agree in the value point of view. I recently built a z590 Plus WiFi machine and couldn't see any value in the Gen4x4 NVMe drive cost difference however, I did find a trick to get the price down on Amazon. My account with Amazon kept nagging me to apply for their AM EX credit card and save $75 on future purchases. The Samsung 980 Pro 1TB had just lowered the price to $169 so I bought it and did the credit card application. That made the difference worth it since 1 TB M.2 drives are well into the $75 to $110 range at this time. I must say, these drives are very quick (Windows 11 Pro)...boot times are close to 9 seconds to the desktop (no user account password). Shutting down the system is even faster. Well worth what I paid.
    Now they are just beginning to offer gen5 but I doubt very much the value is going to be there for at least a year or two when you figure in all the hardware changes needed to get gen5. No plans to build systems with newer hardware or after Z590 Intel 11th gen until maybe 3 or 4 years down the road as there are very big changes coming and the Z690 will be a waste of money as will 12th gen CPU's. Even DDR5, motherboards and power supplies for the next few years are being built to be old hardware in just one year so there's no value there until CPU improvements do not require a complete hardware change to use them.

  • @thealphaflight2121
    @thealphaflight2121 2 года назад

    Thank you for your help Nick..great video..AAA+++video it help me understand for gaming purposes...also save money..

  • @cheyebeaver4879
    @cheyebeaver4879 2 года назад +3

    Nick's the Boss and straight to the point !, Thanks for the well edited video and info, except the part where the dentist shot got way to close :-). Strange how some 'Mobo' manufacturers put the M.2 Gen 4 slot so close to and sometimes under the GPU where heat is generated. I hope the manufactures change this so its a little further away, then we wouldn't have to worry about the card throttling down. Maybe the first M.2 slot should be where the second slot is etc. !!!

  • @ethansmith715
    @ethansmith715 2 года назад +26

    Im upgrading from SATA SSD to M.2 NVME SSD, so gen 3 is already a huge improvement for me and is sufficient.

    • @IrrationalCharm
      @IrrationalCharm 2 года назад +5

      you probably still wont notice a difference unless you're copying files often. Loading times are very similar in games, on windows loadup...

    • @maxim196
      @maxim196 2 года назад +1

      @@IrrationalCharm So whats the point in Gen 3 then?

    • @naor9792
      @naor9792 2 года назад +1

      when gen 5 ssd come out?

    • @fledrxevert4625
      @fledrxevert4625 2 года назад +2

      @@naor9792 probably a while, if not, at least a while until it's worth buying one, most games and softwares arent even optimised for gen 4 yet

    • @WinZard
      @WinZard 2 года назад +4

      You would get better results raid0 sata drives.

  • @Lambrodor
    @Lambrodor 3 года назад +5

    Hey Nick, thanks for the thorough comparison. I have recently heard about the cold data issue with the WD sn550 drive. Any insight on the reliability of the sn750 SSD? Would it be a sketchy choice as of now? I am looking to get a 1 TB SSD to upgrade my laptop. thx!

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +1

      I personally haven't heard of that issue with the SN750. Not sure if it uses the same NAND or not. Might be worth looking into.

  • @MetalliacFeather
    @MetalliacFeather 2 года назад +2

    I use these for Maya, and the load time is 10 second saved, which is exemplified when quick saving and importing/exporting models.

    • @SNAKEx197
      @SNAKEx197 Год назад

      That’s good to know, thanks man!

  • @Chuckles..
    @Chuckles.. Год назад +1

    I upgraded my mb with a gen 4 capable mb some time ago. I've gotten by with a 500g 970 for a number of years but noticed today the 980 Pro 1tb is now $139, sweet!.

  • @Re0xHVH
    @Re0xHVH 2 года назад +2

    I'm looking at videos of reviews, right after I ordered it and can't cancel it. Feeling good

  • @moby1kanob
    @moby1kanob 3 года назад +2

    This will also be the go to drive for the PS5 expansion drive, so far the only drive I have seen somewhat affordable and will be a compatible speed for the Console.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +1

      I expect that to be the case. Only a few on the market that are reaching these speeds atm.

  • @djfreaknique1587
    @djfreaknique1587 2 года назад

    Thanks brother

  • @DanielLiljeberg
    @DanielLiljeberg 2 года назад +3

    Direct Storage is perhaps where it will start making a difference.

  • @thomas1699
    @thomas1699 2 года назад +1

    Nicely done. Informative but not so technical as to be baffling. I am considering an additional M2 drive for my NEW Acer Predator.
    It is high spec CPU and GPU, but I have not yet opened it to see if there is a gen 3 or gen 4 inside.
    Update: My laptop came with something similar to the Gen 4 Samsung 980 Pro. (In factory, non-retail form.)
    I got a 2nd Gen 4 M2 drive, as well. (Acer GM 7000). I don't see the sense in using last year's tech in next year's equipment. I saved money by getting a 1 TB drive instead of a 2 TB drive.

  • @mikewright2858
    @mikewright2858 2 года назад +44

    I went with a 970 EVO Pro for my Rocket Lake board, despite it supporting gen 4. Just isn't worth the price premium for what amounts to, in most cases, benchmark advanatges.

    • @NightOwlGames
      @NightOwlGames 2 года назад +4

      and now you have an actual Rocket! i got a 970 evo plus fast aint it? feel like i need clearance from NASA to power my pc on :p

    • @9rave969
      @9rave969 2 года назад +1

      @@NightOwlGames of course you need clearance from nasa bro. make sure to take it everytime

    • @willitivity
      @willitivity Год назад

      @@NightOwlGames You Face any heating issues in the Evo 970 plus?

    • @NightOwlGames
      @NightOwlGames Год назад

      @@willitivity its currently sat at 61c labelled normal in samsung app, its half full right now 26.7TB written bare in mind this pc is on 24/7, it sits under a heat sink provided with asus TUF X570 motherboard

    • @willitivity
      @willitivity Год назад

      @@NightOwlGames Thanks for the response. It's Still goes as High as 61°c even with a heatsink, that's worrisome tho. Do you suggest I get a SATA SSD instead?

  • @kuchigyz6231
    @kuchigyz6231 2 года назад +1

    I got the 1tb 980pro for my laptop and it's amazing

  • @jpkc86
    @jpkc86 3 года назад +1

    Nick, I'm doing a build right now (only need to buy the CPU and Mobo to complete, well GPU eventually too but for now my 1060 6GB will have to suffice) and the arrangement of storage I chose was:
    Samsung 860EVO 500GB for Windows
    Crucial P5 1TB (gen 3) for Games
    Seagate Barricuda2 TB 7200rpm for Storage
    I will have 2 M2 slots in tolal with the B550 board I'm choosing so when the day comes that DirectStorage is being used in games I'll look at reviews again and probbly add one then if the benefit exists. I planned this with what's best for now with room for the future.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад +2

      That sounds like a great setup for the time being. SATA SSds still going strong for 99% of things. I have 2 samsung SATA SSDs and they have been great.
      No need to spend the extra cash on M.2 for now. Hoping to see some breakthroughs especially with PS5 in the next year or two. Hopefully it carries over to PC 🤞

  • @Crossfire2003
    @Crossfire2003 2 года назад +4

    @Tech Illiterate.
    Great video.
    Totally agree with you.
    I think that the NAND type (SLC, MLC, TLC, QLC, PLC etc.) makes a greater difference than the PCIe generation. Can you make a video about that too?

    • @vladimirljubopytnov5193
      @vladimirljubopytnov5193 2 года назад +2

      Yeah. The 970pro is MLC and its virtually the same price as TLC 980pro.. Unless they silently switched 970pro to TLC, it has 2x more chips than 980pro at the same capacity while having more TBW and longer, higher sustained write..

    • @Crossfire2003
      @Crossfire2003 2 года назад

      @@vladimirljubopytnov5193
      Yeah,
      The 970 PRO has 1200TBW, while the 980 PRO has only 600TBW!

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад +1

      @@Crossfire2003 yeah but that come in 1tb capacity only. 😭

    • @Crossfire2003
      @Crossfire2003 2 года назад +1

      @@CaptainScorpio24
      Yes. You are right.
      They should've released a 2TB version too!

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад +1

      @@Crossfire2003 ill b buying 970 evo plus 2tb for my Asus z690
      there is no samsung gen 4 drive available at reasonable price.
      980s are biggest gimmick the Samsung has done by dropping mlc in their pro lineup

  • @ComradeChyrk
    @ComradeChyrk Год назад +5

    I'm still on the fence with going with the 980 pro vs 970 plus. I primarily use my pc for gaming, but I wanna future proof my pc as much as possible.

    • @petersmulders8058
      @petersmulders8058 Год назад +4

      Go with the 2tb 970 because it’s cheaper per gb and faster then the 1tb pro

    • @calvinm1866
      @calvinm1866 Год назад +3

      @@petersmulders8058 That's what I did. I was surprised at how small it was.

  • @webdeveloper9164
    @webdeveloper9164 2 года назад +1

    I can confirm the performance of 980pro on a gen3 x4 (m2) slot that gets very similar results as your WD (there is a ~3.4GB/s cap)

  • @k2aka111
    @k2aka111 2 года назад +4

    Frankly, it depends on how long it would be until I decided to upgrade from gen 3 to gen 4. Turn my old SSD's into games drives. If it was going to be 2+ years for a motherboard upgrade I'd go with the cheaper SSD. This may sound backwards, but I use them as Games SSD> Boot SSD> decommission them to use as a Backup/diagnostic tool. I use a HDD NAS in raid for longterm storage. All of my important files are stored in the cloud and on my NAS with weekly boot drive backups sent to the NAS.

  • @MIchaelSybi
    @MIchaelSybi 2 года назад +2

    Bear in mind that a big amount of small files are copied much slower than those advertised numbers with any ssd. Onlly big files have noticeable difference in copying.

  • @u04fup
    @u04fup 2 года назад

    thank you!

  • @DontTrip-lu5hm
    @DontTrip-lu5hm 2 года назад +4

    Went from using my SATA SSD 870 to gaming on my laptop PC now equipped with 2x 2TB 980 Pro. The performance is night & day when using PCIE 4. As well for my 980 Pro 2TB NVME I got 2 because of Black Friday pricing, which a week before Black Friday were at 349.99$. Then then Black Friday came down to 319.99$. I know newegg had them even cheaper for about 280$ probably the same with my Samsung corporate discount but I couldn’t wait to have it delivered and wanted to test out the performance that same day for a very long time. Definitely worth it as I can use for a pc build and sort of future proof for the short time being.

  • @philjensen5151
    @philjensen5151 3 года назад +1

    Exceptionally high quality video.

  • @tall-handsome7152
    @tall-handsome7152 3 года назад +1

    YOU ROCK!

  • @dalenthomas4672
    @dalenthomas4672 Год назад

    Just picked up a 970 Evo plus, making sure I remembered right as the 980 pro is only about $30 more rn. I mainly game so even tho the 980 is on sale I think I'll keep the 970 ep. (I do have pcie 4 lanes on mobo)

  • @PatelAkshay
    @PatelAkshay Год назад

    Thanks for saving my money

  • @robertjackson7590
    @robertjackson7590 2 года назад +1

    A gamer machine builder says the software doesn't saturate these components to a level that shows any substantial difference as shown in the specs. Once we start seeing 8K, then we'd start seeing the difference in seconds of load time.

  • @jopehope2949
    @jopehope2949 2 года назад

    Thanks for review. What price difference does it make sense to go from Gen 3 to Gen 4?

  • @everope
    @everope 2 года назад +1

    You should have added the 890 Pro running at gen 3.0 speed for reference.

  • @ssnydess6787
    @ssnydess6787 Год назад

    Considering using a Gen 4 in a Gen 3 slotted new computer. Seems like if I went with a Gen 4 it would be throttled back, so will stick with a Gen 3 but upsize to a 2 TB from the .5 TB onboard. Use is mostly for CAD/CAM 3d applications.

  • @PlanetXtreme
    @PlanetXtreme 2 года назад +2

    Just going to buy the 970 evo instead.
    The reason I would love a niche hard drive like shown, is because recording on obs *fully uncompressed* can be up to 2gb/sec. If you want to reallllly zoom in on your recordings and have no compression artifacts it's the ultimate way to go. Of course, there's a price for that. An expensive one.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  2 года назад +2

      Really expensive! I Recorded an entire f1 game race but forgot I had the nvidia shadow play set to max bit rate. Had a ~65GB file in the end.
      970 is a great choice. My 980 pro is just sitting there and only used as a scratch for now. Looking forward to direct storage!

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад

      @@TechIlliterate so 2tb evo plus is the best bet right now

  • @brucevandermescht6957
    @brucevandermescht6957 2 года назад +5

    We've finally reached the point in SSD's where diminishing returns are a very real thing.

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад +1

      gen 3.0 is enough

    • @edenassos
      @edenassos 2 года назад

      Only to ignorant people like you. As long as files are getting larger and read and writes are not instant, there is always a lot of room for improvement. Also, the limiting factor for transfer speeds are software-related.

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад +1

      @@edenassos how's samsung 970 evo plus 2tb according to you. ?

    • @edenassos
      @edenassos 2 года назад

      @@CaptainScorpio24 Good for storage. Not for high-performance tasks like video or 3D renderings. Put C Drive on the fastest drive you have, don't install anything on it, install on D or other drives.

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад +1

      @@edenassos bro this the best gen 3 ssd available on the planet just bought a week ago..
      before that i was running 850 evo since 2015 and 860 evo since launch 2018..
      FYI samsung hasnt put out its nvme driver dor 980 pro so this best SSD available right now in 2tb. rest are hell expensive and their reliability is doubtful

  • @dawienel1142
    @dawienel1142 2 года назад +1

    got a gen4 sabrent for around R200 ($12.6) more than its gen 3 brother (they are both sabrent)
    So I got it rather than the latter one even though I don't need it yet and don't have a pcie gen 4 mobo yet.

  • @DjRavix
    @DjRavix 3 года назад +1

    I ordered a pair of the OEM version of the 980 Pro (PM9A1) of 2 TB for less than €250 per drive ... I think that wasn’t a bad deal but the downside is that I am still waiting for them to arrive (also the store I bought them is one that I have bought stuff before and according to reviews from members of tech websites seems to be trustworthy)

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  3 года назад

      2x 2TB Drives? That's an insane deal. I hope you get them without issue.

    • @kenny3179
      @kenny3179 2 года назад +1

      Did it arrive?

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan4992 2 года назад +1

    Though this video is a little dated, it's exactly what I needed to know comparing the two. Going for the 1TB Gen 3 instead of the Gen 4 500GB Samsung. Thanks.

    • @CaptainScorpio24
      @CaptainScorpio24 2 года назад

      get 2tb one n thank me later

    • @spyderlogan4992
      @spyderlogan4992 2 года назад +1

      @@CaptainScorpio24 Actually I went with a 500GB, because of budget and price and I'm only using 90GB of a 250GB right now.

  • @AD-Akinniyi
    @AD-Akinniyi 3 года назад +3

    Damnn...I wish I saw this before I bought the 980 pro.... Nice one!!!!

    • @AD-Akinniyi
      @AD-Akinniyi 3 года назад

      😎

    • @InaktiverUser
      @InaktiverUser 2 года назад +1

      Why? Is the 980pro Not Good at pcie 4.0 speed?

    • @AD-Akinniyi
      @AD-Akinniyi 2 года назад

      @@InaktiverUser it is, I was just thinking it was the best… it’s a good SSD tbh

    • @InaktiverUser
      @InaktiverUser 2 года назад

      @@AD-Akinniyi what do you think is the best ssd in your opinion (: ?

    • @AD-Akinniyi
      @AD-Akinniyi 2 года назад

      @@InaktiverUser the best, I’m not sure of the best, but the Samsung M.2 nvme pro is great. I haven’t tried the other one listed in the video.

  • @kapilr.4768
    @kapilr.4768 Год назад

    I got 1 tb OEM version known as PM9A1 for 56$ only. Definitely worth it.

  • @Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic
    @Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic Год назад

    Nice review sir,
    I am curious about a couple of things regarding your test.
    #1) Why didn't you use a Samsung Pro Gen 3 drive to compare with the Samsung Pro Gen 4 drive, rather than the WD Gen 3 drive?
    #2) Did you notice a CPU Use and Load difference between the Gen 3 & Gen 4?
    #3) Were both drives installed on the motherboard at the same time and booting from the respective test drive only?
    #4) Were you able to measure or determine if the global PCIe bandwidth was affected by either drive?
    This is a very interesting topic.
    Thank You
    Mark Nicholson (Retired)
    Former, US Army - EFMB,
    Combat Medical Specialist
    1/94 FA MLRS - Erlangen West Germany
    690th, Medical Company supporting
    Misc. Weapons Ranges, Airborne Jump School
    and Ranger Training Brigade (ARTB) - Ft. Benning Georgia

  • @fiermanmuch
    @fiermanmuch 2 года назад

    for my kind of work. yes i need this. i work with big files. and need to load and save fast to help me save my time. i use gen 3, but yeah gen 4 is will help me a lot 😄.

  • @ApitFinsyah
    @ApitFinsyah 2 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @phillipzx3754
    @phillipzx3754 Год назад

    I know this is one year later, but in your opening, you compared prices for a gen 3 one TB m.2 price ($140.00) vs. a gen 4 two TB m.2 ($350.00). :-)

  • @benjaminice1611
    @benjaminice1611 2 года назад +1

    SATA speeds are just fine for most people and myself but its not much more money to get a m.2 gen3 so I don't need cable manage those 2 extra cables.

  • @TomO-nx1bd
    @TomO-nx1bd 2 года назад +5

    One factor not taken into consideration by a lot of people and which we don't have a lot of data on yet is long-term reliability. I did a new PC build and still decided to go with Gen 3 even with Gen 4 prices pretty good now because I'm worried about the extra heat generated by Gen 4 speeds which could translate into lower lifespan of the drive, at least in theory.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  2 года назад +3

      Yeah You're definitely right. I guess we will know in a few years. I suspect failure rate will be rare in either case.

    • @mikedubz5576
      @mikedubz5576 2 года назад

      Speed is not my only gripe but reliability is King.

  • @WayneWatson1
    @WayneWatson1 Год назад +1

    Add in the Seagate FireCuda 530. Faster and higher TBW. 1tb = 1275TBW 7300/6000 for $120. Samsung 980 pro 1tb = 600TBW 7000/5000 for $140 on amazon

  • @uncrunch398
    @uncrunch398 Год назад

    PCIe Gen 1 is already good enough for dropping the number of lanes to one per device for most purposes, except for fail safe purposes. I wonder if it's possible to find practical use benchmarks where someone figured out how to cripple their hardware down to one lane and still function fully, but at the speed limit of one lane.

  • @dafff08
    @dafff08 Год назад +1

    i recently build myself a gaming rig and i overlooked the fact that m2s have become quite cheap.
    now i want to upgrade my rig, however i just cant find any information on whether or not cloning a ahci os will upgrade to the nvme standard.

  • @giladbaruchian7522
    @giladbaruchian7522 2 года назад +1

    why though ? it should be double the speed
    did we reach a point where it is no longer a bottleneck and ram/cpu are bottlenecking
    (if so will it be faster with faster ram / cpu?)

  • @Engineer20201
    @Engineer20201 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video. I subscribed to your channel. You just convinced me not to upgrade my desktop PC which has Sabrent gen 3

  • @tymtrppr3
    @tymtrppr3 2 года назад +1

    Glad to see somebody using Gibibyte rather than gigabytes. Old school tech heads know what's up

  • @blissfuldj7627
    @blissfuldj7627 Год назад +1

    I got the gen 4 today cause it's now 250 for 2 terabytes and I'm looking at compatability

  • @PapikenCS
    @PapikenCS Год назад

    Fast forward 2 years since its release, I find the price is attractive on the 980 PRO. In my country, the price difference among the 1TB 980 PRO, the DRAM-less 980, and the good old 970 EVO Plus is neglible making the 980 PRO the obvious choice, right? Well, I don't know for sure as I'm going to use the drive on my laptop. My laptop unfortunately still uses PCIe 3.0 interface. Will the 980 PRO run hotter than the rest? I'm still wondering at the moment.

  • @snakeplissken1754
    @snakeplissken1754 2 года назад

    One thing i would like to know are temps. My laptop came with a samsung nvme gen 3 that however just does 2500 read/1700 write so faster then ssds but still not very fast.
    I don´t really mind it that much given that its just the os running from it and its pretty damn fast as is. However its just 500gigs and i kinda plan on replacing it with a 1 tb or 2 tb nvme.
    The 7000 read speed of the gen4 are nice but not really an important thing as the daily base difference would probably even marginal compared to my current "slowish" nvme.
    However, the part that is important to me is the question of temps, do gen4 nvme´s run hotter then gen3? As temperature is kinda a thing to worry about in a laptop as there is simply no way to upgrade/change the cooling.

  • @Trifler500
    @Trifler500 2 года назад +6

    I'm trying to decide between a 500GB 980 Pro and a 1 TB 970 EVO, since a 1TB SSD is slightly faster than 500GB in general. Any thoughts? This is just for the boot drive.

    • @TechIlliterate
      @TechIlliterate  2 года назад +12

      I would get the 1TB for sure. Plenty of speed for the time being.

    • @PKmuffdiver
      @PKmuffdiver 2 года назад +5

      1TB will last longer too. Go with that.

  • @andrewentz6477
    @andrewentz6477 Год назад

    Did you try tunning the SSD drivers with the Samsung Magician software?

  • @ak47zaq
    @ak47zaq 2 года назад +1

    Hey, I got a gen 3 250Gb ssd and a gen 4 500Gb ssd. Which one should I install windows on? the gen 3 or the gen 4?

  • @regwatson2017
    @regwatson2017 3 года назад

    Thanks for this. So much advertising hype but very little extra bang for buck.

  • @Frowlfrowl
    @Frowlfrowl 3 года назад +1

    If direct storage in windows 11 is out i think it will show its true colors.

  • @MrLegendary0ne
    @MrLegendary0ne Год назад

    The price for the 980 pro has been slashed to 200 bucks for 2tb. Good time to buy one

  • @j.d.4697
    @j.d.4697 Год назад

    It's weird how the numbers double from PCIE 3 to 4 but real world performance doesn't seem to change, not even in streaming-heavy games like Star Citizen.

    • @jeschr3462
      @jeschr3462 Год назад

      Idk... I'm noticing a significant improvement with opening folders and files with the gen4 samsung 980 pro. Its much snappier and faster than the gen3 it feels like Also the read and write speed like this video shows, is almost twice as fast as the gen3 ssd.

  • @MadMexism
    @MadMexism 2 года назад +1

    On my X470 board, when i put my OS M.2 on the top slot, (closest to cpu) i notice my first pcie lane for gpu gets lowered from 3.0 x16 to 3.0 x 8. Would that affect my gpus performance in any way?

  • @c.e.6014
    @c.e.6014 2 года назад +1

    I agree; however, my friend is all smug about his PS5 having twice the read/write speeds as my PC.
    I will be configuring a raid 0 card on my gen 3 motherboard. I feel like it's the way to go. 13gbps read/write on my PC should humble him a little.

  • @videocruzer
    @videocruzer 8 месяцев назад

    I think so sept 1st this year new egg had the 1TB on sale for 78 bucks Canadian.

  • @topandrun126
    @topandrun126 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. After watching this I think I will return this Samsung nvme pro. I really don't think it worth it.

  • @BhuvneshwarDwivedi
    @BhuvneshwarDwivedi Год назад +1

    Did you checked Samsung 980 pro ssd in pcie4.0 supported motherboard?

  • @user-dv6yo5bc4z
    @user-dv6yo5bc4z 2 года назад

    980 Pro pricing are identical to 970 Evo plus, just 20 difference where I live in for 1TB and I got the former one.
    Should I regret for not getting the 2TB 970?

  • @GodlessManitoban
    @GodlessManitoban Год назад

    I'm having a huge problem right now. I just bought the Samsung 980 Pro Gen 4 but Magician says it'd be better in a Gen 4.0 slot. I have it in a gen 4.0 slot close to the CPU on an Asus B550 Rog Strix Wifi II. In the bios it only says up to Gen 3. I don't know where I'm going wrong.

  • @Equatis
    @Equatis Год назад

    I just picked up the 980 pro because it's $9 difference than the 970 Evo Plus at Best buy right now I think out the door price was $119

  • @fly4fun24
    @fly4fun24 2 года назад

    how about now 5/20/2022? 1Tb Sam 970 EVO $110.00 x 1Tb Sam 980Pro $160.00

  • @CharlesINTEL
    @CharlesINTEL 2 года назад

    Wow, at first, the numbers seemed impressive however your real world tests proved "eh." 😊👍🏻 Saved me from spending the 💵. I'll wait for your Gen 3 VS Gen 5 review then use your affiliate link to buy/support!

    • @RogerJoseph
      @RogerJoseph 2 года назад

      The video is wrong in alot of ways the "obvious" conclusions are not made. If you're on a Gen4 drive and supported mother board doubling out put from 3.7 G to 7G is alot for streaming. What the RUclipsr never once acknowledged is that most pc workloads are designed around lower bandwidth devices like SATA SSD and regular hard drives. So in day to day normal non game it's too much bandwidth for the task at hand so it's normal you don't see improvements. Example bios boot is the same because the data bandwidth needed is well under the performance of the storage. Today's computers need to have workloads designed for the higher bandwidth to "see" the difference. Gaming and servers are the only way to really see major performance. Future open world games will take advantage of the increased bandwidth. Gen3 and Gen 4 drives never have texture pop in since the drive is faster than the game.