Pure Advaita with Jim Newman Simply This - part 2
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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I like this interviewer. Good, honest style.
Brilliant interview
Jim's voice is so soothing and relaxing and the interviewer seems like a very friendly man.
Alan trying to grasp the ungraspable is one of the sweetest things on RUclips... It's just beautiful and innocent... Being exposed to Parsons and Newman's transmissions long enough is the end of "Me-ing"...
Thanks. Maybe it can’t be grasped, but it can be held in knowing. 🙏
Right? It was just so innocent and precious. ❤
This is such a funny and refreshing interview. I love the innocence of Alan’s questions and his child like reactions. Thank you both for No thing🤣💜🤣💜
It was no thing indeed.
@@newrealities 💜
In 2016 the revelation there is no self was recognized. Before the revelation, there had been intense seeking and listening to many spiritual teachers that made it sound like they held a secret I could not grasp. At least, that was the interpretation here. When the revelation happened it was a shock along with deep relief and the falling apart of the 'me construct'. Tony Parsons was the first speaker with whom there was resonance in the way he described it, the de-contraction of energy in the body along with the revelation the separate me had never existed. Deep gratitude.
love when they both laugh...hilarious...this whole nonsense of non duality is truly joyful! I can watch these dudes all day!! Great laughter
It would be so nice if you guys could make a reunion… I adore you both..
Such an amazing apparent 'combo'/'chemistry
I love this interview! "Allan" did a great job!
I do love the laughing...... Jim doesn't take himself too seriously.Well done Alan (without meaning to sound patronising) this interview (with part 1) was not easy..... :)
A part 2! Yes! This is one of the best Jim Newman interviews! ❤
Pure gold interview on non duality ha ha!
Again kudos to the interviewer his curiosity allow us to understand more💙
Thanks
Best ever conversation on non duality/truth.
Thanks. Did you see part 1?
@@newrealities Yes ,both parts and I am totally dumbfounded.
The host is doing a great job!!!
There's no host 🤣
@@mnaglik What's or who's talking?
Very grateful for this video. People that dare to be radical by spreading pure advaita are rare.
Do you know anyone else that does?
Tony Parsons
Karin P nobody does.
tolle is fierce....he will kick yo ass!!!
Also love Andreas Müller's expression (The Timeless Wonder) very much.
Best interview ever !
This communication is 💥🔥💥🔥💥
so AWESOME 😭🥰🤯🥴
Thank you Alan, Jim & Rita!
The way the interviewer started to say he sometimes goes back to “believing Santa Clause” at 7:45 was so precious. We are in love with the idea of ourselves. He he
Thank you for this interview, Alan. I felt exactly like you when you were getting the same answer again and again. Thanks Jim too for his sense of humour and his message.
If we acted like nature does, we would understand this message very well:))
A tree doesn't have a personality, he is not concerned with how and when and why, it just is, and he's okay with itself, not going anywhere
a tree is like a zen teacher :)
In a way you never act outside of how nature does, you are nature
Great vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The idea of Liberation is a dropping away, it is a Loss of the illusion of separation, the dream of separation. So when liberation or enlightenment "happens" it happens not for an individual sense of separateness but it is a dropping away of the separate self sense or illusory "me". To the extent that the "me" drops away or dissolves is the extent of liberation. Liberation or enlightenment is not the gain of something it is the loss of the illusion of a sense of separation, illusory because it was never really there other than as an appearance or dream. One technique that these teachers will not promote but seems useful is to refer to "me" and "I" far less, get used to that non-position till it becomes second nature. For example has the bodymind that apparently is typing these words referred to it's self once as a conventional i or me other than to refer to "i" or "me" as an illusory separative self sense? There was no one given credit in the conventional sense/language here. So even though there still seems to be an "i" operating it is not being glorified by a constant practice/reinforcement of saying i and me. So as much as possible speak of the bodymind as the third person or as little as possible. Basically model the non-dual teachers language and perhaps it will turn from a mere exercise into an actual dissolving/discrediting of i or me. Once again though the you, i or me cannot be enlightened, yet enlightenment can "happen" as the you, i and me drops away.
Excellent comment!!
Reminded me of Swami Savapriyananda with the Advaita Vedanta teachings. Look him up on yt sometime. I just found him a few months ago.
Two years ago, and on two separate occasions, I had an out of body experience - while simply walking in my home. The second experience was the more significant one - I was 'being aware of being aware' of the 'body' below....This is why this teaching has been so significant to me.
(Deepak Chopra and Swami Savapriyananda interview from 3 years ago - was amazing and excellent questions asked to Swamiji.)
This message is very old, but teachers in the past always resorted to teasing people along the path. It happened spontaneously to Ramana Maharshi but he resorted to Taylor Greene his words to meet the “level” of particular followers. Jim just puts it out there without any crutches or practices prescribed.
yes , there is definitely recognition , thank you , lots of gratitude 🥰
You are so welcome
This is as deep as it gets, and I am so grateful I stumbled upon it. Alan, hat down to you!
I have watched both videos over and over and over. I love the appearance of you two having such fun with a very unknowing apparent discussion. :) Alan you are a hoot.
I really like how when Newman speaks and gesticulates that curtain behind them parts just a little bit and the light shines through. ;)
I love this interview it's so fun and true!
Alan Steinfeld, I loved you in this interview! Thanks. Amazing job. Jim's laugh gives me great joy.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I totally resonate with Jim.
I know exactly what he's saying
Great interview Alan. The Abbot and Costello analogy was brilliant!
Superb! So lively discussion🧡💙
Thank you 🙂
the best most hilarious video on the trending Non Duality THING OUT THERE!!!
This should be shown and taught in schools!!! INCREDIBLY RIDICULOUS
Alan Rocks
It’s one of my best one… love you guys!
The first time I heard this guy I was like "this is shit, this solves nothing", now I'm like "FUCK YEAH THIS SOLVES NOTHING"
the guy was a very good intervjuer........... nice
You are hilarious, this and part 1 made me laugh so much. Thanks! X
Laughter is happening while listening to this LOL!!!
So much fun the seemingly me separate senses of self loved it and laughed out loud. Thanks fir this apparently happening interview 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a hilarious yet meaningful interview - Alan is amazingly joyful , I think he is enLIGHTened because he certainly knows how to lighten up notseeking. HA Ha LOVE IT x
+Linda Gumbleton No Alan being enlightened simply what is is complete the appearance is enlightenment
Alan's energy certainly liven's up Tim's so serious vibe..i find it light and funny intetaction
There is no any Alan to be enlightened. 'Enlightened Alan' would be another separate self.
Love this interview. I'm very familiar with the Jim Newman, Tony Parsons type message...it's fun to relate back and forth; totally resonating with both; the frustration of 'getting it' and the frustration of 'explaining it'....guess I'm in the middle LOL! The interviewer is a very sweet person. There's a clip; super funny making fun of it all; Who's Not On First At the Nonduality Conference. (sorry can't seem to paste the link).
THIS IS HILARIOUS! 😂 LOVE YOU GUYS
Jim is saying at 0:40 that there is something recognising that the person is not real...not from the brain...not from the body but it is recognised somehow by something. The most important question would be now: By what is it recognised??? My understanding is that it is recognised by "this" itself. Would love to ask Rupert Spira this question.
That was Crazy Town funny & my brain hurts 😜🤔
I Love this & I have experienced this... I think🙃
Wonderful!
This might be the most fun Jim Newman interview I've ever watched.
Lovely conversation. The Abbott Costello reference was hilarious. Appropriate also - it’s wonderful to experience the slapstick of conversations in non-duality.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Advaita at its best. Just let it have an efffect on you, don`t try to grasp it. The OBSERVER is really needed, IT is the keyhole of the door of liberation.
love this
I wish Alan would interview Tony Parsons and Andreas Mueller too.
This is it! :)
Exactly...
it would really help to understand something about language itself, and how it functions. It's the same reason that NDEers cannot "explain" what happened. Language itself is not designed for this. Therefore, It can't be communicated. It might help (maybe) if Jim said "no thing" rather than nothing. The nearest explanation I've come across is Advaita's Sat, or existence itself. Sat, Chit, Ananda. Existence (itself), Consciousness (itself) Bliss (itself, not being blissful, or a blissful experience).
Shiver me timbers, part 2... 👀
The interviewer did a great job. Open, honest and quizzical. I wonder if the interview had a permanent effect.
One of my favorite early JN vids
This might be the only time I’ve heard Jim speak that doesn’t give me severe anxiety.
Well, except there’s no me to feel anxiety. Because I’m no-thing. And… everything?
Oh god. Here comes the anxiety again.
That's Funny!😆
Love the abbot & costello bit!! So good
According to Avatar Meher Baba , We are all God now and forevermore but the goal is to realize this eternal Truth. Intellectual conviction is the beginning and Jim states it most eloquently. But ultimately the Mind must vanish. Furthermore, It's a game of hide and seek that God is playing with Himself. The following are 2 brief passages that explains it so eloquently, so Masterfully:
The Lover and The Beloved
“God is love. And love must love.
And to love there must be a Beloved.
But since God is Existence infinite and eternal
there is no one for Him to love but Himself.
And in order to love Himself, He must imagine Himself
as the Beloved whom He as the lover imagines He loves.
Beloved and lover implies separation.
And separation creates longing;
and longing causes search.
And the wider and more intense the search,
the greater the separation
and the more terrible the longing.
When longing is at its most intense point,
separation is complete,
and the purpose of separation,
which was that love might experience itself
as lover and Beloved, is fulfilled; and union follows.
And when union is attained, the lover knows that
he himself was all along the Beloved, whom he loved
and desired union with;
and that all the impossible situations that he overcame
were obstacles which he himself had placed in the path
to himself.
To attain union is so impossibly difficult
because it is impossible to become
what you already are!
Union is nothing other than knowledge
of oneself as the Only One”
~
“Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that
which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige
of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite,
wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is
the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp
this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain.
-Meher Baba
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In other words "seeker is the sought".
But how beautifully explained by the revered Mehar Baba.
I (my separate self!) greatly prefer this 'honest' approach to ND, ala Tony Parsons, Nisargadatta, etc., rather than the many now hawking ND as 'self-improvement' or how to make life (of the separate self) better, etc., which is reminiscent of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. I also greatly enjoyed/appreciated the interviewer and his impossible task!
You kill me Alan;)....that was like me(and most everyone else) interviewing Jim😊
every time like the first time! you are a miracle! Thank you!
Alan is super cute being all bothered intellectually and Jim is brilliant as always, and they both don’t really exist neither this comment or me. Lol
Incredibly enjoyed. Thanks for pointing!
In our ego driven world there is something soothing about this perspective... though it may almost be too far in the other direction? From maximal self to zero self?
such fun!
alan is a class interviewer
Excellent video, thanks for posting, much appreciated. New sub : )
i always thougt that consciousness was no-thing appearing as everything.
While it is possible to build a philosophical system which is logical in itself so that there is an answer for any possible question there might appear a little child who states the truth when exclaiming, "But he hasn't got anything on!" ;-)
💙 Thanks
You're welcome 😊
It seems like it makes more sense to perceive that there 'is' a relative self but no absolute self... The relative self is a function and emergence of relating which is inherent in all life and just what is but it is ultimately empty. But if you maintain no one is here it throws relating into a chaos hence the 'inter-view' has no motive and since theres no one there why even do it at all? Relating and difference, story and tension is what makes life creative...its doubtful a non dual civilization would even get off the ground...We may be happier but entirely unmotivated?
Great
"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself." - George Bernard Shaw
Shaw was wrong too. Everybody is wrong.
@@eastwood1941 Everybody?
The reactions of that blond guy are hilarious.
The Seeker I go, The Sooner I do Not Arrive.
Who's on First??😃 So fun Alan!
+Armando Weiss Thanks Armando, always good to hear from you. And appreciate your appreciation, Did you see the first part: ruclips.net/video/jaHRGC18Bb8/видео.html
I enjoyed this, it was very funny
I can watch this over and over and over again… and still no thing😂😂😂
Yes, when I watch it or when I was there I got the strong sense of what Jim was trying to communicate. It starting to come from beyond the words - the eternal presence of no thing.
@@newrealities yes, yes and yes!🙏🏽💖🙏🏽
Radical approach to non-dualism...Jim makes no concessions.
Wow, you are so funny( the interviewer) I feel just like you. Totally puzzled 🤔I am still the seeker.
Thanks Susan.
I can see why this philosophy likes to be rejected. Time exists as long as "I" exists. But this guy does double talk. Says one truth then the opposite then counters it, leaving the person confused.
I feel like the 'there is no you, there is no me' repetition is one side of the coin.
There is the absolute, that which we truly are, and then there is the relative world, which also experienced.
Why can't it be both?
+AlwaysBeNice cause what your saying would be pure duality, the Absolute is the nothing pretending to be something. Everything is illusion (including what types) except ''what you really are'' which alone is.
Alan has refined sense of self . He has interviewed truly enlightened teacher Dr David Hawkins.
He asks very insightful questions that indicates that he is quite advanced on the path of spirituality.
I am sure he senses that Jim's claims of spiritual awakening are empty.
Jim as a fellow spiritual seeker if I may advice you humbly please do not let your mind fool you in believing that you have reached enlightenment. Its not a concept that the mind could grasp fully . Its an experience Please continue looking with in you beyond mind's games. God bless you in your spiritual journey
Thanks Simmi. I feel Jim is not completely empty, although he might welcome that claim, because there is no Jim (joking). Who we are and what we think cannot be defined, and all attempts are humorous points of view that are based on the illusion of the ego self. But Jim is trying to say something that can't be said, beyond our dualistic mind.
@@simmisharma5169 how do you know the suggestions in the video interview are false or that what is suggested is empty?
Its my obligation towards myself to discern the true teachings from the false ones. As the world is filled with self proclaimed gurus who have not realized the absolute. They are out there in public not as the beacon of truth but to satisfy some egoistic motive. power, money, fame etc.
I am just a seeker of truth nothing personal here Jim. God bless you
@@simmisharma5169 So that is your personal feeling. You don't resonate with what is being said or let's say with the speaker. Projecting ulterior motives is beyond the purview of what you could know. And to be clear: there is no claim of being "spiritually awakend" or being personally enlightened. The message (Radical Non-Duality) actually makes clear, there is no personal enlightenment because there is no person. And - as you say you are a seeker of truth - what is really longed for is the end of seeking, not truth. There is no truth. There is only unknowing.
Can observe by " Jim's " body language the ego self importance has dissolved.
When Jim speaks of "the separate sense of self" as the only totally unreal part of 'The Appearance', that separate sense of self is the ego, right? I-sense? I-thought?
@@bajawalla exactly!("I"think)(lol)
SUPER! THANKS!
Thank you too!
Great job Alan! Very enjoyable. Nothing works! 🤣
You got that right!
Or, Ashtavakra Gita (good translation is Thomas Byrom's Heart of Awareness). Or the Dao.
Some people are not mentally equipped to embrace mind bending experiences. The reality of life submits itself to the principle of duality. And the nature of the human being allows itself to be immersed into meaning and non-meaning making activities.
interacting with a non-dual teacher "seems" to apparently help with the dissolving, though the message here is that there is no real causation for anything
Jim DIED....that's the whole and entire point of nonduality.... not two...just one....once Jim dies or is dead there is only one thing/essence/being left to live happy and free WITHOUT a 'separate me' to spoil life. I "died" this morning while out walking and suddenly, there was/is total freedom and happiness - for no one. This may not last but it's a beginning of the end of an unwanted 'me'!
If Reality is unknowable by the finite mind then Jim can’t really assert anything not even ‘it is as it is’. Also, you can’t say there’s no cause or there is a cause...it’s just unknowable, a mystery. He certainly can’t say this is a powerful message and that it somehow has an impact on some who hear it...that suggest causation. To qualify statements by saying ‘apparently’ is also inconsistent with the notion that it’s unknowable unless you allow for nothing to be happening at all and if that’s the case you’re not left with much to say.
You obviously weren't listening
I only started watching this stuff 'cos I find myself in some nut job of a small flat on a railway line with no tv right now. I miss my glamour channels that Im used to watching 24/ 7 miss 'em like mad and the sound of the fucking trains is driving me crazy. Still I feel like I may be getting enlightened here.. whatever that means...but is this the price I have to pay? 🙄You mean there are no trains....? Fucking hell, try sitting here and saying that...what a constant fucking cocophony!!!!!!Thanks for posting this, it can never make up for my tv, but it helps put the trains into some kind of perspective and its good to know I never left this comment 🤤😎🤣✌
'No-Ones' on first base, second base or third base, even the stadiums an illusion. However, what a privilege it is to be one of the players LOL 😄
It would appear that from this perspective, that Love is the only reason for its Existence 🙏.
i guess the reality of life is that all submit to the principle of duality. Is and Isn't. And the being in us allows itself to immersed itself to both state and stateless, meaning and non-meaningful life. This contrast of existence is the essence i guess of movement in everything. potential and kinetic.. give and take... yin and yang...and the impersonal being gets to play with both experience... if it gives attention to both. But by default... we don't. Therefore we do not exist. Just my 10 cents. :)
If everything already is , and a person in ego hears this. They will stay in ego prob
When you dog bargs who is barging, even If your dog has a name he doesn't know it, is the appearance that we call a dog barging, and nobody there is in the dog. Think the same example about humans
💙💖💙 yes
'Nothing works...' Think about that- Did Alan miss the double meaning there??? :) My question; what creates desire? 'I' can accept and appreciate 'this', but 'I' want to 'be' 'there'... Then there are things my 'I' wants to achieve. *So if I make business calls, or produce some music, paint a picture, or play with my dogs- holy ISNESS, they're all the same IS at the moment of IS and there is no 'doing', because nothing is being 'done'!!! 'Do without doing and all gets done.' ...I remember that quote. You two just got me back into alignment (and frankly, just saved my butt (apparently)). I really wanted to blur the line between work and play, but becareful of what you wish for- you may get there, like I have, and find it very confusing (until today!). Much love, *Andrew.
When Jim speaks of "the separate sense of self" as the only totally unreal part of 'The Appearance', that separate sense of self is the ego, right? I-sense? I-thought?
Im missing the point -please help -people who understand this.
This sounds like a big word game. When Jim passes through TSA does he say “there’s no one here to go through x rays”.... Does he use money? Or does he not because “there is no one to need money?”
I bet with the agent at the airlines he speaks like everyone else. “Yes Mam, I’ll take seat 23” Not “no one is here, there are no seats or plane-it’s a dream”
Does he pay rent? If no one is there somehow he crosses the ocean to talk
To no one?
@@kidyounot3387 Are you really that stupid?
The appearance of a Jim Newman happening in the apparent vicinity of what might be appearing as an Alan Steinfeld could be perceived as an apparition of initially irritating, later adorable apparent "two" not-things not-thinging. This not-one perceiving the apparent not-twos over the illusion of separateness makes "me" feel like a me, desperate to solve the problem of being apart-from, in that this one is thereby incapable of pinching their apparently adorable rascal difficult self-denying cheeks.