Solving an integral equation using special functions.

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025

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  • @xizar0rg
    @xizar0rg Год назад +82

    I love how, on one hand he glosses over the intricacies of trig substitution in integrals, but at the same time he carefully explains how we know that pi/4 is less than one.
    sidenote: For those in the future, the legendre duplication video was yesterday's: ruclips.net/video/BIR4jDur_Ik/видео.html

    • @anshumanagrawal346
      @anshumanagrawal346 Год назад +1

      I know right 😂

    • @landy4497
      @landy4497 Год назад +3

      I think that's because that's how he sees the beauty in math: by logical implications, rather than long equations

  • @throwaway692
    @throwaway692 Год назад +14

    Dude... I just want to say this out loud. As a Physicist(and teacher myself) I cannot say how happy I am to have found your video series. As you might expect I'm more of a PDE kinda guy than a Number Theory kinda guy. But you help keep me sharp. Much obliged.

  • @thomashoffmann8857
    @thomashoffmann8857 Год назад +23

    10:30 in the definition of the beta function, the exponents should be v-1 and w-1. The second definition with sin and cos is fine though.

  • @Happy_Abe
    @Happy_Abe Год назад +4

    @5:10 while that inequality looks obvious, one has to be careful for x values between 0 and 1 where a higher exponent actually leads to a smaller number

  • @maths_505
    @maths_505 Год назад +7

    The general case of the integral parametrized by alpha is pretty cool too

  • @jcantonelli1
    @jcantonelli1 Год назад +2

    Somehow, once he said that 1 < a < 2, I suspected that phi would be a solution. Nice problem.

  • @williammartin4416
    @williammartin4416 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @thomashoffmann8857
    @thomashoffmann8857 Год назад +4

    5:30 the obvious inequality is not clear to me 🤔
    If x < 1, i can't see the inequality at first glance because 1+x^a gets smaller.
    E. G. For a = 3 and x = 0.1, the left integrand is bigger.

    • @xizar0rg
      @xizar0rg Год назад +3

      You've explained it pretty well, despite saying that you don't understand it. Keep in mind he's not talking about the integrands, but the integrals. (The 'smaller' curve (larger values of alpha) has less area underneath it.)

    • @thomashoffmann8857
      @thomashoffmann8857 Год назад +4

      ​@@xizar0rgyes, so it looks like the integral from 0 to 1 behaves different than the integral from 1 to infinity.
      How the sum of both parts behave 🤷‍♂️

    • @wesleydeng71
      @wesleydeng71 Год назад +2

      ​@@thomashoffmann8857Right. One needs to prove that (1, infinity) overweighs (0,1) which is a homework @14:55 😂

  • @adfriedman
    @adfriedman Год назад

    Great video! For those of us lucky enough to guess the u-substitution u = 1/(1+x^a) with differential dx = -1/a u^(-1/a-1) (1-u)^(1/a-1) du, this gives the normally recognizable form of the Beta function directly without the trig substitutions. I got stuck on this problem trying to find a satisfying x for the equation with the Gammas.

  • @erosravera3721
    @erosravera3721 Год назад +6

    Wow! It starts as "plain" calculus, then it take a long steep route through the Gamma function, and finally an elementary quadratic formula, that yields the Golden Ratio!

  • @Alan-zf2tt
    @Alan-zf2tt Год назад

    That was beautiful! Compliments to approaching the problem tying it in with gammas and betas and bringing it down to earth with some simple quadratics. And all in < 17 minutes

  • @yeahyeah54
    @yeahyeah54 Год назад +2

    awesome result

  • @Jack_Callcott_AU
    @Jack_Callcott_AU Год назад +1

    Gee..that was fun❕ The general formula for the integral could come in handy too.

  • @wolfmanjacksaid
    @wolfmanjacksaid Год назад +2

    It's been scientifically proven that watching Michael Penn videos every day makes you more smarter.

  • @JianJiaHe
    @JianJiaHe Год назад +1

    I have never used calculus for years, but I found watching a math problem being solved satisfying.

  • @MothRay
    @MothRay Год назад +8

    As soon as he said it’s between 1 and 2, I said I bet it’s going to be phi. And it was phi. Glorious!

  • @karn87863
    @karn87863 Год назад +2

    Shouldn't the inequality at the end be flipped?

  • @cicik57
    @cicik57 Год назад +1

    ohh there is another video in internet of similar or exact same task where also it a power of golden ratio, using that a² = a+1, etc...

  • @ThAlEdison
    @ThAlEdison Год назад +1

    I'm pretty sure that evaluates to (1/a)Gamma(1/a)Gamma(a-1/a)/Gamma(a)
    for a=phi, phi-1/phi=1, 1+1/phi=phi, tGamma(t)=Gamma(1+t),
    (1/phi)Gamma(1/phi)Gamma(phi-1/phi)/Gamma(phi)=Gamma(1+1/phi)Gamma(1)/Gamma(phi)=Gamma(phi)/Gamma(phi)=1
    This is based on making a u-substitution x^a=u, which gets it to the form (1/a)Int_0^Inf(u^(1/a-1)du/(1+u)^a), which is (1/a)Beta(1/a, a-1/a). One Euler's reflection formula later, and we're at the point where I started.

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 Год назад +9

    15:30

  • @aadfg0
    @aadfg0 Год назад +3

    Fun fact, phi is the only value in (1,2) for which antiderivative has a nice form.

  • @redhotdogs3193
    @redhotdogs3193 Год назад +3

    Beta func def need z-1 and w-1?

  • @DmitriStarostin
    @DmitriStarostin Год назад

    You get alpha to be 1.618. The limit of the divisor would then be x power 2.61, and integrated x power 1.61. This is about 1 divide by x power 3/2 (three halves). It is Kepler's law! The square root of time power 3 is an axis of an ellipse. So we get 1 / axis of an ellipse. This may be the eccentricity or the 1 / eccentricity if it has a limit. In other words, if it has a limit, it is an elliptical (and not hyperbolic orbit). It is not exactly 3/2 because 1. the Moon is moving away from the Earth and the planets are moving away from the Sun 2. the universe is expanding 3. one does not count in the Earth's motion against the fixed stars.

  • @Happy_Abe
    @Happy_Abe Год назад +2

    The inequality in the HW should be the other way

  • @masonholcombe3327
    @masonholcombe3327 Год назад

    love how a intimidating looking integral and quotients of beta and gamma functions boiled down to a simple quadratic equation

  • @SuperSilver316
    @SuperSilver316 Год назад +1

    As soon as I saw that set up I had a feeling the golden ratio was coming

    • @jcantonelli1
      @jcantonelli1 Год назад

      Haha, same - something about the repeated powers of alpha.

  • @PawelS_77
    @PawelS_77 Год назад +49

    What if I press the like button non-gently?

  • @CherylWong-y4b
    @CherylWong-y4b Год назад +1

    Hi Michael, thank you for the video. Appreciate if due credit be given to the author of the math problem.

  • @saidfalah4180
    @saidfalah4180 Год назад

    To golden calculus, golden number!
    Thank you very much

  • @allenminch2253
    @allenminch2253 Год назад +1

    What a yet additional beautiful manifestation of the golden ratio!

  • @SHASHANKRUSTAGII
    @SHASHANKRUSTAGII Год назад +11

    golden ratio

    • @Rócherz
      @Rócherz Год назад +3

      *“It’s wabbit season!”*

  • @sgogacz
    @sgogacz Год назад +2

    7:20 i can’t get why the upper integration bound after theta substitution is pi/2. It was obvious in case of substitution x=tan(theta) but in this case we’re doing substitution x=tan(theta)^(2/alpha) so shouldn’t the upper bound be like (pi/2)^(2/alpha) ?

    • @fundopreto9823
      @fundopreto9823 Год назад +3

      The thing is, tan(pi/2)^(2/alpha) continues to be infinity, since (infinity)^(2/alpha) = infinity. So you should consider the angle that is inside the tan(theta)^(2/alpha) which is, in this case, only pi/2, if that makes sense.

  • @anestismoutafidis529
    @anestismoutafidis529 Год назад +1

    α = +log(10² )

  • @yeech
    @yeech Год назад +1

    why 1/alpha + 1 = alpha?

    • @threenaj293
      @threenaj293 Год назад +5

      he didnt say that it's a necessary condition, just that if it were to be true then alpha would solve the problem.

    • @xizar0rg
      @xizar0rg Год назад +2

      A lot of math problems have "clever" solutions that make things work. That's what he's talking about when he mentions "wishful thinking". (This is similar to when Blackpenredpen uses "wouldn't it be nice".)
      He chooses a solution that works (golden ratio) as a "clever guess", and then leaves it as a homework problem to show there are no other solutions (while sketching out an explanation).

    • @yeech
      @yeech Год назад

      Oh I see

    • @alexandermorozov2248
      @alexandermorozov2248 Год назад

      I had the same question 😜

  • @digxx
    @digxx Год назад +8

    I think the HW should be clearly reversed, since for alpha->1 the integral diverges and must be greater than for any beta>alpha.

    • @digxx
      @digxx Год назад +1

      Upon checking numerically, the inequality appears rather spurious to me, since the integral has a unique minimum on (1,infinity) after which it approaches 1 from below as alpha->infinity.

  • @siddharthchauhan1129
    @siddharthchauhan1129 Год назад +1

    Is it just me or the integral boils down to b(1/a, a-1/a)/a instead of twice that

  • @Kapomafioso
    @Kapomafioso Год назад

    This is exactly what maths 505 did.

  • @enpeacemusic192
    @enpeacemusic192 Год назад

    Of course its the golden ratio. Why wouldn’t it be the golden ratio. Why would it make sense for it to be anything but the golden ratio? Lmao

  • @birdbeakbeardneck3617
    @birdbeakbeardneck3617 Год назад

    Thoose who know

  • @Maths_3.1415
    @Maths_3.1415 Год назад +1

    Take a look at problem 5 of IMO 2022
    And Problem 1 of IMO 2023
    Both are number theory problems :)