Chief and the Nuke Scene Breakdown | Lore and Theory
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- In this episode: We take an in-depth look at the scene in Halo 4 when Chief activates the Nuke and how it was possible that he didn't die!
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This guy is one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Please continue to be a shining light in a world of darkness and smoke.
Wish I could like this 10000 times
Saaaame
🙌🏼There’s no replacing 00🙌🏼
I was your 117th like 😎
My favorite thing about 00 and why he's my favorite is because he does nothing but take halo and its lore for what it is, and doesn't just bag on it like other content creators. He takes some unpopular concepts and makes them much more likeable just because he takes them for the whole concept
Kinda feels like BT 7274 protecting Pilot Jack Cooper.
Protocol 1: establish neutral link to pilot
Protocol 2: uphold the mission
Protocol 3. Protect the pilot
everywhere I go I hear his voice
@@flipperman182 bro same
I had to look up the scene to understand. I haven't even played the game and it still hit like a truck.
I can agree with the split seconds, because you can see the debris moving slow and then faster almost at the end
I always just assumed Cortana teleported Chief to the anime spirit dimension to save him
Like the Domain?
Less than one second in Halo, and one of the most powerful moments in all of Halo, showing off just the kind of AI Cortana is.
Cortana stabilized herself enough to manifest herself, time her actions perfectly, manipulate the hardlight bridge to wrap around Chief to save him, and both had a lengthy conversation, all in less than a second. Just wow.
Genuinely awesome breakdown. Of all the times chief has been on the knife's edge of death, I think that moment he activated the nuke, he knew it was over more than ever before. His perceptions and reaction time, his spartan time, was probably at maximum ability in that moment and the seconds that followed.
Cortana's time alone while 117 slept for 4 years actually deteriorated her even further. Another part of the reason she lasted so long is because she was able to remove her automatic kill-code
I'm also sure her time spent with the gravemind during halo 3 contributed to her rampancy
The only thing keeping her going was watching over Chief.
This is still my favorite scene in all of Halo and I still tear up every time I watch it. Thank you for covering this so well.
Chiefs survivor’s guilt must be immensely heavy. As heavy as him in his armor. For everything and everyone he’s willingly sacrificed, reluctantly lost, and all of the situations hes survived - which would be (WAS) certain death for anyone else. Though he’s never truly alone and beings like Fernando Esparza, Weapon and all the people who are happy to help or serve alongside him, he’s still in the end, alone on an internal degree. His actions, muscle memory of constantly checking his weapon and being in a ready stance, and very armored and short responses to questions of others around him, I can see why Cortana begged Chief to remember that he’s human. I feel like losing Cortana not once, but three times - Halo 4, being unable to bring her home in Halo 5, and not even being conscious nor present during her (seemingly definite) destruction on Zeta Halo, has done a number on him beyond what the lore is currently showing imo. If 343 can execute it correctly, they can make us cry with the next game without even killing Chief off.
Or the weight of his balls to detonate a nuke by hand :)
@@simedinson984 trruuuuee
Dont cry dont cry dont cry...I'm not crying, you're crying
I petition to have this guy officially implemented in halo lore as a lore master
2:58 Given that it's basically a big thermos, I'd argue that it should be classified as a small nuclear device. Imagine the power of proper nuclear missiles if that tiny thing is 30 megatons.
Also, why did Chief have to press the button in the first place? Put him in the shield, then make a hard-light finger to press the button. That way, Cortana wouldn't have to make such a quick action. Safer for the Chief in case something goes wrong.
But the really big nukes have incredible explosive power. In the books, it is mentioned that the UNSC uses the Spartans to plant nukes on the planets they´ve lost to the covenant in space combat, and they´re powerfull enough to basically blow up the whole planet. Just one of those nukes.
@@rabenschnabel3072 Those are the NOVAs, not the normal nukes used.
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Actually, in my book (the fall of reach) they are called Nukes, but that might also be a translation error, since i´ve got the german version
@@rabenschnabel3072you’re probably right about the translation error lmao
@rabenschnabel3072 Translation error then. I've read the English version and it was quite clear about them being specifically called Nova bombs. I can see how the error was made, though. It is described as basically several nukes taped together in a shell.
You ever have a dream where it feels like hours but it only lasted a few seconds after your alarm went off?
Halo 4 had my favorite campaign cut scenes. Awesome animation. Amazing and sad ending.
Huh?? I’m sorry Halo 2 anniversary was much better. If you’re looking for original, halo 3 was beautiful
@@CelloMaster2000 You're disagreeing about what this guy's favorite scene is. You know this person better than HE does?
There was no claim that "objectively, H4 had the best cutscenes" in which he'd be trying to speak for everyone.
@@HolographicThoughts I never said objectively either lol. In what world do you think the word “better” is anything BUT subjective?
I've always figured it was Cortana's reaction time to create the bubble, but never did I think their conversation didn't even last more than a second. That makes that scene all the more sad... Though, at the very least he got to say goodbye when it should have been impossible.
Did you never notice the background how fast the time speeds up when Cortana disappeared?
Any day with an Installation 00 upload is a great day
Careful with your decimals- 10 milliseconds is only one hundredth of a second
Slip of the tongue I'm afraid 😨
@@Installation00 lol. It happens
@@Installation00 if anything though, it makes your point that much more. In one hundredth of a second, Cortana was able to do all of that.
Another way to look at it is that a person takes between 100 and 400 milliseconds to blink. So in 2.5-10% of the time it takes to blink, she managed to completely protect the chief from a nuke at direct contact while still allowing him to detonate it in the first place.
*TRIGGERED!*
10ms is 1/100th of a second, not 1/10 ❤
😅
All I'm saying is. Who the hell made a nuke activation in the distant advanced future, function like a "bop it" toy from the early 2000's?!
In one of the books, Fall of Reach, there was activation cards needed to prepare, and then, finally activate the havoc nuke that destroyed a city in that book. It could be that in this case, it's a last ditch effort, activated by a few methods to even allow you to get to such a position that you have to smack what amounts to a properly weaponized version of the demon core. If you really want to ensure something is destroyed, and are absolutely willing to put everything on the line, and everything is setup by that point.. Fuck it. Smack it to hell and back.
is this actually how it works? No clue, not watched the video yet, just going off what my knowledge, limited that it be, and then watching to go 'Oh, huh, guess I'm wrong.'
How much time was Chief and Cortona paired together? The way the games portrayed them, you’d think they’ve spent years paired together. But they were paired just before Reach fell.
Subtracting the years in cryo between 3 and 4 and the time they physically weren't with each other then they were only together for roughly a few weeks to a month. And much of that was the two week trip to Delta Halo where its possible Chief wasn't in armor the whole time
@@mekboy7403 don’t forget the time between Halo 1 and 2. I’d say they were paired with each other for 4-5 months in total.
@@onefadedgunner3281 The entire trilogy is only around 3 months long. The time between Halo 1 and 2 is only about two weeks before they return to Earth and are separated and debriefed. As far as we know they don't see each other again until the start of 2. And theres a large chunk of time after High Charity where they separated. So while they've known each for about 4 months, but they were together for a total of roughly 1 month. A tad bit longer depending on the circumstances of their return to Earth and if Chief stayed in armor or went into cryo during the trip to Delta Halo.
@@mekboy7403 this is why I’ve never understood why 343 portrayed their relationship like they did. They made it seem like Chief couldn’t live without her, as he was willing to go AWOL to go find her.
Objectively it makes sense, master chief is a child soldier who's not had anyone like cortana as a friend.
Yup. The master Chief was wrapped with multi layered hard-light technology.
Halo 4 and halo reach will always be my favorites. So many first person moments that pull you into the game
This has been something that has been bothering for years! Thank you sooo much for finally clearing it up for me!
30 megatons? Yeah chief is dead, his heaven is just war.
Your explanations are so great lol. This makes so much more sense 😂
Scene always hits you in the feels ..........
loved the analysis. i hope we figure out how to make hard light soon, even if its impractical for regular people to use, its still so cool!
small error: at ~11:00 you said 10ms is 1/10th of a second, but its actually 1/100th.
And then she’s back. And she’s evil now. Oh wait, never mind. She’s dead again. With her legacy destroyed. But we got you a new one!
-343
It doesn't fix the past but they're using the books to confirm that it was her time with the gravemind and then her time alone in-between 3 and 4 that caused her to "go bad"
So they basically confronted she had the logic plague.
They even gave her a physical body in h5 but nope fans are angry so out with her
"Don't make beloved heroic characters evil." It's like 343 Industries had anime people on board that thought bad girls are hot or something.
I had also just accepted that it’s the master chief and he just straight up tanked it
You just gained another Subscriber brilliant work man
Master chief died after halo 3, and that will forever be the greatest gaming trilogy of all time
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant! Unconditional Love, prosonified! 😢❤
Gah I can’t see this scene without tearing up 😭
Going to replay this soon and finish 5
Do a video on how powerful is the domain
Honestly people always give halo 4s story a hard time… but its campaign wasn’t even bad.
Halo 4 never deserved the hate it got (maybe MP for a huge shift). Campaign story, visuals, and tone was dark. More themes like this in Halo would go a long way for the franchise. 343 cooked with this game
Most people actually liked halo 4's campaign
The mantles approach is bigger than the Deathstar. I highly doubt I single nuke could destroy it
i love halo 4 soundtrack
Thanks for this - completed the game again today and that confused me as usual
We are going to grow so much, once we leave the cradle of Earth!
Somthing as indestructible as hard light makes the flood instantly nonsensical.
Wdym?
@sgtaveryjohnson3803 Forerunners could have surrounded their plannets with transparent hard light completely stopping the flood. They could have made hardlight tunnels to travel from planet to planet or shielded their ships with impenetrable hardlight. The flood could be rounded up using hardlight traps and put in hardlight containment boxes which could be sent into stars.
I.e. hardlight having this capability destroys halo lore like smart AI does. It could work but it would need an explication like "it takes extreme amounts of energy to utilise impenetrable hardlight on a perminant bases"
Not really as they were unprepared to deal with the flood, so they wouldn't have had the time to use hardlight for that purpose.
Secondly, they were trying to find a cure so desperately that they didn't think about other alternatives.
@@sgtaveryjohnson3803
They were prepaired, they had the tech!
Oh so now the super advanced race were stupid to?
I didn't even know that this scene was question I just thought that it was interesting.
Fun Fact: Before the Master Chief detonated the Havok nuclear device, The Mantle's Approach almost reached the maximum radius of 1,500 miles across Earth for the composition process. After it would've reached its maximum potential, the ship would start moving around the planet, composing everything in its path.
10 milliseconds = 1/100th of a second 😵💫
Who would win in a fight? Master chief or a BoS Knight in upgraded T60 power armour?
I’ve been wondering this…. Who the covenant do better on the ground if they use human tactics and had armor similar to modern day military uniforms?
Lovely work 00
14:30
Capacitors. Wouldn't be that useful if you had a brown out and your shields derp out for 10-15 seconds while power gets back up and running.
Chances are the hard light systems would have some sort of temporary power source
cortana could finely seperate chiefs hand from a bomb in 10 milliseconds with hardlight yet could not seperate didacts head in 10 minutes.
BLUE LADY MOMENT 🗣🗣🗣
'eh fuck it" - chief
To be fair, the "medium yield" part could be a dig at the whole IRL concept of "Tactical Nukes".
For those unfamiliar, in military parlance there are 2 main classifications of military weapons: Tactical and Strategic.
Tactical is TYPICALLY conventional in nature, basic explosives and the like that can be trusted to field commanders to implement properly. These are by no means weak, pretty much everything fired in anger since Hiroshima has been tactical in nature.
Strategic weapons are things so destructive and heinous that they need civilian permission [typically ordered by the President directly] to use. Fire Bombs, Biological & Chemical weapons, and most nukes, are all strategic in scope, a general cannot "just use them".
In the 50s and 6s, as the physical size of nukes shrunk to allow such a thing, the USA and USSR tested so-called "tactical nuclear weapons", nukes small enough to trust generals with. in the kiloton range [like Fat Man and Little Boy] as opposed to he megaton Strategic nukes.
This culminated [for the US anyway, Russia still has tactical nukes in theory] in the Davey Crockett. A freaking nuclear howitzer shell. The problem with it was, depending on weather and terrain, the howitzer couldn't launch the nukes far enough to guarantee survival of the unit firing it [like how the Ghost in Starcraft sometimes gets caught in the blast of the nuke they are guiding]. In addition, as tactical in nature, it was intended to fire on fortifications and formations to soften them up prior to assault [as opposed to destroying strategic targets, like cities]. the US Army quickly realized that even if the nuke could be fired far enough to be "safe", assaulting INTO FALLOUT is a stupid idea.
The weapon in this story is one of these "Tactical Nukes" designed to be used in combat.
Close but not quite.
Tactical and strategic are classifications for nuclear weapons (not all weapons), whereas the description you've given are based on what they mean, respectively, with an added modifier of range included.
Tactical nukes are short-range devices intended for military use on a battlefield, while strategic nukes are long-range devices intended for the destruction of a country's ability to continue a war, including its population.
Since the Halo universe is set primarily in space, the size and scope of what tactical and strategic mean are vastly different than what they mean here on Earth.
Why? the UNSC fights battles not that different compared to modern militaries.
I genuinely hope the next storyline for Halo involves time travel
the endless...and somehow and time travel....
Yes fucking please
343 should've continued the tone and storytelling of this game
This was such a Wonderful gaming experience
In regaurds to the theory as to the hard light bubble remains after the ship is gone, if cortana just became "real" by becoming the hard light, wouldnt she still have some hard light power left in her to literally BE the shield? Just speculating love the vid!
Then they dropped the storyline
15:40 could Cortana have tapped into the reactor of the suit and helped keep everything going? Or to have offloaded herself back into the chip in the helmet?
I’m curious as to what people think on the whole. Do you think that this scene was an example of Cortana having feelings for the chief or the peak expression of platonic feelings?
Master Chief is just Nuke level minimum. For real though I like to say he just got lucky for everything.
Halo 4 and onwards explained: 343i writing.
Obviously. They made the games. What is the point of this statement?
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Amendment:
Halo 4 and onwards explained: The painful writings and consequences of Frank O'Connor's dreadful fanfiction.
@@BloodGulch Nope
My favorite aspect of this video byfar... Is the speculation that because of the time dilation and mixture of many other factors he so very intelligently describes. They were in pretty much a form of limbo but moreso the Spiritual Realm so to speak, to say thier final, emotional goodbye 🫂. This is such a epically based theory because what we know about all accounts of the Spirit Realm is the absence of space(cant be found physically or mapped) and time, a moment in the Spiritual Realm could be relative to thousands of years in our human/mortal Spacetime Continium or vice versa due to the abscense of spacetime itself there. I believe this fully explains the time discrepancy between Athiest and Christians about the age and knowledge of recorded time, of the Earth. We know that evidentiary records of civilization date back to about 4000BC or so but radiocarbon dating can date fossils and things back as far as millions of years. This being said i believe fully the Garden of Eden, being Guarded by Warrior Angels themselves, with a fiery sword that doesnt have to be turned when engaging (obviously a higher dimension shape to it), and the Father himself dwelling in it along with other timeless Spiritual beings such as Satan himself. This land or plane was not of our dimension, more overwhelming evidence from the fact Adam and Eve, had they not been cursed for disobedience, would never have died!! Our punishment as humanity, is TIME itself (watching the beautiful precious things we love have to grow, age, and die before us 😢). Hence Time itself is in a ultimatum, Death itself. Think about it, what's the worst punishment a judge can give you before death 💀 ☠️ itself , is TIME, they give you time, or more or less take it away by adding it to you. The Garden of Eden, existing on Earth, but being separated (guarded by warrior cherubim after Adam and Eve's Exile) , being a timeless plane, could have existed for millions of years relative of its surrounding, third dimensional Earth coinciding in tandem. There may very well and most likely were already civilizations formed and ready around the first ever Jews to emerge on Earth(also making sense of the age old theory that Jews were spiritual travelers from another planet like Mars or Mars itself that used a Kaballah to transport themselves and thier eternal souls to Earth). And that makes perfect sense to what the dwellers on Earth must have expierienced having these travellers out of nowhere seemingly show up outta the blue and possess great Intelligence. Also hence why they were eventually enslaved, as most foriegn refugees are in a strange land being taken as Slaves/Indentured Servants in exhange for thier place in the land. This is why Isreal and Egypt exist to this day because God ALWAYS keeps his promises and told of Isreal being ser aside for the Jews by divine right, hence why all nations rival, swarm, and attack Isreal regularly throughout history (6 day war 🇮🇱💪💪🔥). They are Jealous of the Jewish birthright of the Holy Land up untill the Anti-Christ takes his seat in the end of days for the trials and judgment of Earth, followed by the full overthrow of him and the seat being returned to its RIGHTFUL (always) King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Jesus Christ for a age of peace 2000 years, untill the final days leading to the full end of the war... VICTORY. New Heaven and New Earth shall then commence with a beautiful, unimaginable paradise waiting for his Children for all Eternity.
As much as I don't like Halo 4; man, It still chokes me up that last scene.
It would have been funny if he died at the end of halo 4
No bots.
Hopefully.
It pains me that people so easily wrote off one of the best halo endings as "BuT iT DiDnT MaKe SeNsE!"
didn't the mantle's approach (at least what was left) escape after the explosion and go to Genesis to repair?
Can the Hulk be infected by the Flood?
Yes
10 miliseconds? Thats all the time in the world to cortana 😂
I notice you very carefully did not say that this was bullshit.
Just gonna add that halo 4 audio in mcc is broken.
Nah he 💀
Eh, the MOAB is non-nuclear. Yield is less than 10 tons of TNT. Not even in the same planet as a 30 megaton bomb. Granted, it can flatten quite of bit of the neighborhood, but orders of magnitude less than 30 megatons or the 50 of Tsar Bomba.
10ms is 1/100th of a second... not 1/10th
This is the way the world ends
I always assumed that Karina used the power of friendship to keep the Master Chief safe on her warm embrace bibbity bobbity I didn't really like this game's story very much
wildly misread that title...
It’s same as Star Trek halo deck.
I was never confused. I thought Cortana protected him. Her being deleted from the current game is a complete lack of understanding and story telling. I'm not looking forward to telling my 8 year old son how bad the game got.
This was honestly my least favorite part of Halo 4. It seemed like such bull sh*t.
Halo 4 is literally fan fiction
I love the campaign of *Halo 4.* Same as *Halo 5: Guardians.*
@@madness0169 how? They’re both terrible games storywise and gameplay wise
@@AceXINFAMY I just enjoy being a powerful Spartan such as the Master Chief. Not to mention Spartan Locke and Fireteam Osiris, they were great characters too.
I also loved how *Halo 4* and *Halo 5: Guardians* expanded and enhanced the story of the earlier games and all the new weapons and armor capabilities that impacted the flow of gameplay. It was a fresh coat of paint for the Halo franchise. ❤️
@@madness0169 they destroyed the art style and they turned the story into some generic marvel super hero story where the villains like the didact are ultimate evil with no clear motives and the protagonists like chief are now some mythical “chosen one” it’s so lame
@@AceXINFAMY ODST was the true pile of crap in my opinion.
Wow
Cheif is still floating in space with Cortana after the events of Halo 3. Anything else is just a fever dream.
You won't change my mind.
WTF I was Unsubbed from you
No matter what happened in that scene, sorry y’all, John is dead
No, sorry, not sorry, Chief is not saying goodbye at super speed. It's happening in real time. The hardlight just lasts longer than you want it to. Chief ain't a relativistic speedster.
Halo 4 was a HORRIBLE game.
But this RUclipsr still deserves props for trying to make it fit logically. 🎉
Disagree
I think its a great game
@@Mastercheeks17 Story sucked, it took aspects from call of duty, maps are abhorent, armor is ugly no matter what you wear, and it took away FireFight for an (at the time) online only gamemode.
@@SunnyMittendisagree, the story was well written and emotional, the art style had its strenghs (even If i hate the H4 grunts and elites),big team battle was fun, and Spartan ops inst online only
343 just needed to play with this games strenghs and work with the weak parts
@@Mastercheeks17 Time to yap about EVERYTHING I can find about the story.
Cortana suddenly became extremely emotional and out of character with no build up or signs prior, the Didact for some reason didn't kill Chief even when he had opportunities to do so, he also decided after just waking up to go to war with humanity without having done any reasonable observarion (When it's 4 years after Halo 3, aka, when HUMANITY WAS ALMOST ALL DEAD), the elites that decided to stick to a remnant of the covenant that WANTED THEM ALL DEAD, AND EVEN LEAD IT, Chief being specifically made for aome prophecy that he could have and almost multiple times DIED and hence fail to fulfill to stop a chaotic forerunner, cannot forget a Ship captain who is a veteran of the human covenant war and was calm up to that point, yelling like a child at the Master Chief instead of everu single person wanting him to hand Cortana over after her rampancy ARCED THE SHIP'S ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS IN FRONT OF THEM IN ANGER, she if it was Bungie would have TERMINATED HERSELF to avoid compromise of her allies, then Chief survives the nuke and talks to Cortana before being in space INTACT and then picked up without radiation procautions which HE SHOULDN'T HAVE, PERIOD.
The story is HORRIBLE, PERIOD.
Halo 4 gets to much hate, it had a really good story with some incredible art, while it's not bungi, it's still good
Who cares if it’s not possible it’s a video game 😂 lighten up people
Funny how you say a point blank explosion of a nuke won't destroy hard light while the video is showing Didact break free from the hard light shackles made by cortana's fragments with just his strength which would make the Didact's strength output far stronger than the nuke chief had.
Ideas
How would a hard light sword interact with an energy sword?
What if John had didact armor?
Could the needler technology act like an energy shield?
I wish the brutes used more magnet/gravitational weapons instead of electric. ( A cannon you could load things into and accelerate at enemies, area of denial weapons like a gravity well, something that stopped/crippled you from jumping and/or throwing, give the gravity hammer a push-pull effect)
Only Halo Reach hit me harder the first playthrough.
I still like to pretend the Chief retired after the events of Halo 4 and the other two games didn't happen.
I'd always assumed that Chief was teleported to some distance from Mantle's Approach and the time dilation was also accounting for the time it took for the explosion to propagate the 200ish kilometers across the ship and destroy any final vestiges of power generation.
But yeah, I love the idea that the unique connection that Chief and Cortana had allowed them to say goodbye at the end.
Does anyone else think about halo’s ai rampancy and how things are about to happen in real life with ai?
helldivers vs odst lore video?
Maybe master chief is just built different he can survive a nuke with ease because he works out
I was literally searching for a video about this a week ago, on your channel too lol