Google says this car has 357 lb ft of torque which is 3 lb ft more than my W166 GLE400 that runs petrol/gasoline. So I'm feeling confident to tow with my GLE now! In fact, you are already pulling the biggest trailer I would ever consider towing! :) Thank you for sharing a real video of your towing with the car, and not just a bunch of useless talking like most other videos. This is very helpful!!
Yes but don’t forget where that torque is available. For the diesels it’s low to mid range RPM, exactly where you need it. Gasoline ones may rev quite a bit higher especially on steep inclines. Although I am towing this large of a trailer I would recommend a smaller one (up to 25 ft - this one is 27) for SUVs due to side winds dangers. Good luck!
I've towed a roughly 6000lb traler traveler cross country this year at 8800 miles average about 12mpg. Gl320 Def had cooling issues. Have amsoil low toxicity coolant. Dash gauge is 100% off, was running at 222-232f that's NOT in the worst heat, ac off, only on on downhills makes huge diff. Use obd meter not dash. Tranny was always at 100c Brakes never overheated Worst pull is by Wyoming around 80f day up to 9000feet, was def dying, had to keep low speeds, stop to cool Mount Rushmore also rough, back to main city Stretched transfer case chain, easy fix, replaced chain only, not guide. Guide support let snapped, had to fabe a support leg for the guide to fix flawed design Other issues, stutter at low torque prob air leak at turbo Oil cooler seals leaking I believe Injector seals replaced sprior to trip, one was bad
Thanks, this video was really helpful. I have a DIY 16ft 3500Lbs fiberglass shell travel trailer I built myself, and I chose a 2009 W164 ML320 Bluetec with a factory installed tow package for my tow vehicle. Was doubting my choice but you cleared it up for me 👍🏼
Mine is 2008 last year without the def system (bluetech) planning to buy a travel trailer around 4000-4500 pounds dry weight, looks like wont be needed a pickup truck, so im happy 😊
I have a 2004 toyota sequoia wirh 400k miles that still tows up the hills of west virginia. Never done anything to it. Oil changes and tires and so tows an atv trailer at 65 to 70 mph
I'm picking up my 32" trailer tomorrow, towing with 2018 GLS450. Dry weight 6300 lbs. I'm definitely pushing the limits (for the size of the trailer, not the weight). Wish me luck!
That’s a bit heavy, once you put all your gear in it will be quite a bit more. Your main issue will be the tongue weight and the side winds. Be careful. And check the rear axle at the scale once all loaded up and weight distribution leveled. If it’s over, or a lot over, you have a problem. Legal, safety and wear and tear issues. Let me know how it works.
Can you elaborate on the low range? I’ve only been able to see the older ML’s be able to go into low range, how do you engage it? Or can you at all? Thank you I appreciate the info. I’m looking at getting one of these next week.
I know this is an older video but would you know max tongue weight allowed? My trailer is 17' @2800 lbs dry with a 450 lb tongue weight. Thanks from BC
Yes, I would but not for towing this size of a trailer. For a smaller one and everyday use, yes. The ML CDI diesel did not have an AdBlue system, that made it a little more reliable. Once you properly updgrade the oil cooler seals (big job) to eliminate oil leaks and maintain it well it’s a beast of an SUV. You can find good used ones decently priced.
Thank you for all your hard work making this video! Very well done and inspiring! I have a ‘08 GL320 and this video has given me the confidence that it can tow. Question is, while towing do you just put it in drive, or use the manual mode? Maybe both?
Hi! Thanks for subscribing. I was using D to get up to speed and manual after for keeping it in 6th instead of allowing it go to in 7th. Less vibration, sweet butter spot for torque. The same fuel economy with less drivetrain stress. Also used manual to downshift and engine brake in steep inclines. What are you planning to tow?
@@maximusfuscus Oh, man, that’s excellent advice! I’m just planning on towing one of those Polaris Rangers that seat 6 people and has the snow Trax on it. Not too heavy. I have towed it with my ‘06 F-150 and it does it pretty effortlessly. We had another Baby last month and now need to sit 6 in the tow vehicle. We’ve had the GL for 5 years or so, and have taken it across the U.S. a couple times. I’ve never towed anything with the GL. It has the factory tow package. The Factory airmatic system has been replaced with Arnott. It’s ready to tow. Your video gave me the confidence in it that I needed!
@@bryceweaver8211 -Yes, that will be nothing for the GL, you’ll be amazed. Big difference when towing 6000 lbs of RV with walls and towing a flat, OHV on it, 6000 lbs. Much easier. I towed this RV with a GL diesel also. Now with a Touareg TDI. Underrated beasts…Actually, I am pretty sure the GL will tow it better than the 06 F150.
Thanks for the video. It looks like you're running a whole lot of tongue weight. Do you know how much that is? Also: Is your ML running Airmatic suspension or regular coil springs?
Hi. Regular suspension. Tongue weight was at max allowed for the rear axle and a bit more at times when I had 3 occupants, full 100L diesel tank. I was also removing the batteries and gas tanks from the front of the trailer and relocating them in the back. Air suspension would help but wouldn’t make it legal. So I was pushing it but also watching it at the scales often, I had a free commercial scale near by. Wouldn’t recommend that much of a trailer for the ML. The GL I used briefly was quite a bit more stable. Longer, heavier and standard air suspension.
Can you give the weights of your particular travel trailer? You moved the propane tanks to the back to save tongue weight? Also, what kind of fuel economy have you seen?
5450 lbs empty. Yes, I experimented shifting weights at the back to save tongue weight, that way I was 100% legal for my 3 weight ratings on the vehicle (GVWR total, front and most importantly rear). Confirmed ar the scale. I was getting 18 litres/100km (13 MPG) on average but this is a high altitutde, high winds area year round. In other conditions (closer to the West Coast) I saw even 16.5 litres (14.2 MPG) on the highway. At worst, with bad head winds I saw 21 litres (11.2 MPG). Never underpowered. The weight of the trailer itself is not a real issue, the ML was rated for 7,200 lbs. The side wind gusts were always the danger.
I have a 28’ trailer, dry weight 5600lbs, I am experienced in towing and now I am not worried about using an 09 ML320 blutec as my tow vehicle. We’ve been towing with my 01 f350 7.3 litre diesel and it’s big, noisy and not particularly comfortable. Thank you, David
Hello Folks - video(s) are great with cool drone footage. Everyone's comments have been very useful as I'm new to towing. I'd appreciate you're opinion as I'm anxious if I'd made the right decision with my choice of vehicles. I've a 2016 GL450 V6 with factory hitch (now done 8000 miles) and we've brought a FR Alfa Wolf 29ft travel trailer which is 5400lb dry - 600 Hitch weight. We plan to drive 6000 miles around the western US national parks over a 10 week period which means over some mountainous terrain. Is this set up capable or are I better off with a truck ? Thanks in advance, Paul
If you already have both vehicles I would correctly hook them up with a decent weight distribution hitch and take them to a scale. Verify front and rear axles + total GVWR (they are all written on the door sticker) to see if you are close over when the trailer is empty. Remember you will have fuel in the vehicle, probably a lot of luggage, gear, food, beer, etc…they add up quickly. The GL should tow the described trailer with no issues however you want to be legal in the case of an unwanted accident. Also watch the side winds, don’t drive too fast and be careful when passing or being passed by big rigs. 29 ft is quite long. If you have a truck ready it would give you more peace of mind when it comes to wind stability but it’a not a guarantee unless the truck is a heavy duty. The mountains are an issue only when descending steep, long inclines. You don’t want to cook (and lose) the brakes. Use manual downshifting to assist.
@@maximusfuscus Thanks for the reply Max. The travel trailer is waiting for us in Denver and we're in Florida right now so not able to test anything unfort. The plan was to simply arrive at the dealership, set up the WD hitch and begin our vacation. I'm just not sure if it's worth the risk which is why I'm asking a few experts now ;-)
@@paulthomas3316 - I see. Fuel up the GL, put some people inside (depending how many you’ll take) and weigh its rear axle. You will see how much you can spare. Then add the theoretical tongue weight of the RV trailer and determine how much (if) you are over the number. Don’t forget you are also adding a battery (mandatory for emergency trailer disconnect brake) and the propane tanks - which at times I used to carry them inside the trailer to the back. I also used to add a ballast at the rear of my trailer in order to keep the axle weight in check. Also didn’t put any gear at the front of the trailer. Don’t forget to add the weight of the WD system itself, that will help with dostribution ans stability but will add some pounds. By the way, I also towed with a Ram 1500 Ecodiesel. It towed great but when all loaded up I was still overweight, so only an HD truck will ensure you have room to spare. I did that too but it was overkill to me. Your GL is more than capable to tow this from a power/braking point of view. My GL350 Bluetec did great. My only issue in the prairies was side winds. The Rockies of British Columbia were no problem.
I’m considering a ml350 or 320 to tow a 26 ft sailboat. 5300lbs plus trailer, etc. would put me a bit over 6000lbs. What do you think? Too long? Also, did you have the factory towing package?
Hi. I had factory. It should be ok but check the tongue weight before doing it. It may press too much on the rear axle and make it lillegal/chew the tires excessivley. Otherwise the lenght will be only a driver/inconvenience issue. The weight is ok. Also, make sure to use the “off road” button when manouvering at the launch site, especially when pulling the boat out. This will engage low range and protect the transmission.
Oh. Make sure you are getting the ML350 Bluetec (diesel) and NOT the ML350 (gasoline version). The gasser will not have the necessary torque for that boat.
Oh. Make sure you are getting the ML350 Bluetec (diesel) and NOT the ML350 (gasoline version). The gasser will not have the necessary torque for that boat.
There is no doubt thay such small trailer would be an easier tow with German SUV vs. half ton truck. Truck crowd doesnt understand that low center of gravity, short rear overhang, wider independent suspension, better brakes are more important than a TV ad where their truck is shown when towing a trailer. 3/4 or one ton can provide a feeling "of better stability", but good luck with any emergency maneuvers. They will go straight like Titanic into the iceberg.
No problems but that generation was prone to oil leaks. Oil cooler seals. Mine was taken by a moose, write off. Did a lot of towing like this. Changed the oil frequently. Ask if the oil cooler seals were replaced. The parts are not expensive but it’s a big job.
Average fuel mileage? When towing Now seperating mountain driving from stright highway and county roads. L/100km love the video, very stright to the point nothing fancy or over the top.
@@maximusfuscus from southern Ontario, and looking to buy one for pulling around a 17 foot aluminum boat, and a 21 foot car trailer loaded up with ATVs and Side by Side (not at the same time) major trips would include Northwestern Ontario in July and northeastern Quebec in August. So it's nice to get some insight information,
@@maximusfuscus Hi. Thanks for this. Amazing rig you have. I am looking at one to buy ML350 cdi now. Do you perhaps have fuel consumption figures for car only without towing please?
@@spienaar66 - Under normal conditions it should do an average of 7-8 litres/100 kms highway (or less if driving legally) and 10-11 litres/100kms in the City depending on traffic and lights. Not towing this is. I don’t have the MPG conversion handy.
Hi. Just factory coils. I also briefly towed that trailer with a GL350 Bluetec. That had factory airbags, much better ride (and heavier, longer than the ML) but when they break it sucks. All GLs have air-rides. On the MLs it’s optional.
@@maximusfuscus Hi Thank you for your answer. I asked you as I am planning to tow a caravan with a gl350 with air springs. The durability of the air spring is questionable.
@@abchkbh - Empty 2,500 Kg? Are you in North America? I highly recommend checking the tongue weight of the trailer first. The overall weight of the trailer is not an issue so much as the weight it presses on the rear axle.
It may be if a vehicle crashes into you from the rear. But they are pretty sturdy, a guy shot one that was expired (but full) with a rifle and did nothing, just released the gas. This was just for the purpose of seeing how much tongue weight I can reduce.
@@maximusfuscus can't compare rifle with a truck crushing into you and the sparks it might produce xD, nvm, sorry for bothering, was just wondering, i would personally never put them there, to me they look like a bomb
@@Marko007ify - You may be right but in the event of a major crash the RV trailer is very weak, any large vehicle crashing it would penetrate to the front very quickly as well. Somewhat safer to put them in the front, sure. I don’t travel with them like that, it was just for the test. Not illegal here.
@@maximusfuscus I will use the vehicle on average 70% city 30% caravan, camping, picnic, village, lake trip. As soon as I get it, I will add the trailer instantly. The caravan is a simple caravan weighing 2200 kg.
@@maximusfuscus Under the hood of the GLS63 is a twin-turbocharged 4.0-liter V-8 engine that produces 603 horsepower with the help of a 48-volt hybrid system. All-wheel drive is standard, as is a nine-speed automatic transmission and air suspension. Its acceleration from zero to 100 km/h in 3.6 seconds is even more than most sports cars. Torque is 850 nm. I'm pretty sure it'll pull a trailer like a beast. That's why I don't want to go and buy a second hand vehicle.
Wow! 1st: Tow ratings are determined using flat bed trailers on short distance special courses, NOT 9’ high RV’s. Big Difference. 2nd: Because of this you should never tow more than 75-80% of max tow/cargo capacities given by manufacturers. Called Prudent Man’s towing recommendation. 3rd: The wheel base on this SUV TV is waaaaay too short for this size RV. 4th: Empty weight 5400 lbs (Loaded 6400?). 5th: Max TV tow is 7200 lbs x 80%= 5760 lbs safe & sane amount. IMHO still way too much for this short wheel base SUV vehicle. 6th: Max payload 1442 lbs x 80%= 1153 lbs safe & sane cargo amt. 7th: Loaded RV 6400 x 12% tongue weight= 770 lbs + 2 adults (350) + hitch/W-D (100) + tools/junk in car (100 lbs) = 1320 lbs. 8th: You should never load back of RV (behind axles) with weight. You have a tow rack (lbs ?), (full ?) 2 propane bottles, (full?) 2 fuel tanks + spare tire/rack (150 lbs? on bumper ). Just because your owners manual/door sticker says it can tow something, doesn’t mean it can stop or maneuver in emergency situation. In an emergency that 6400 lb RV would push that short wheel base SUV vehicle around like a kid pushing a Tonka trunk. Well, stay safe (and lucky, I guess) out there.
One thing that everybody seems to leave out of the equation is driver skill. This beaten to death “wheelbase” argument is getting so old. It’s not like if you drive a dually F450 it will guarantee safety, I’ve seen 5th wheels and small trailers with big trucks belly up. I’ve seen lots of semis belly up because of extreme winds. It’s also about what kind of suspension the vehicle has, the four corners are attached the the wheelbase, no? Besides, put an F150 near an F350. There isn’t much difference in wheelbase, I would say not at all. But they obviously can’t tow the same, right? As far as breaking goes this setup was more than adequate, I had wildlife cross at night where I had to swerve and break heavy, no issues at all. The trailer is braked too. The ML’s brakes where large and cooled, never had fade. Driving on long downhills will cook your brakes no matter what you drive (seen those runaway ramps?) if you don’t know what you’re doing and relying only on the pedal. And why not put anything at the back of the trailer? I don’t see any issue as long as it’s not too heavy. The trailer has 2000 lbs payload in total. So in theory you have some validity but my point is the setup was legal and safe. Was it a stretch? Might be for the majority of drivers, that’s exactly why in the end I stated a shorter trailer is advisable. Btw, I towed this trailer with Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, Ford F150, Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi, Chevrolet HD 2500, Ford F250 Powerstroke. The HDs definitely had an edge in stability and braking but the half tons were not much better than the ML. Also the 6.2 V8 gas on the Chevrolet HD was struggling uphill compared with the Mercedes 3.0 diesel.
Driver skill will never make up for having the correct vehicle. Don’t know how driver skill is going to make your frame, axles and brakes stronger? You don’t put weight behind the axle because it adds to sway. Numerous videos on here about that with videos showing what happens when you load weight on the back. Wow, That is common towing knowledge. So much for “skill”! Half tons are not really great tow vehicles for a camper this long and probably weight. They are no more than grocery-getters with light duty frames, brakes, axles; like your Mercedes. Sorry, but your vehicle is not safe for that size/length RV. We have a 6.4L Ram with 25’ 5th wheel (7200-7400 lbs). We can accelerate up hill. Doubt that 6.2L could not do the same in tow mode vs your 3.0 diesel. @@maximusfuscus
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Google says this car has 357 lb ft of torque which is 3 lb ft more than my W166 GLE400 that runs petrol/gasoline. So I'm feeling confident to tow with my GLE now! In fact, you are already pulling the biggest trailer I would ever consider towing! :) Thank you for sharing a real video of your towing with the car, and not just a bunch of useless talking like most other videos. This is very helpful!!
Yes but don’t forget where that torque is available. For the diesels it’s low to mid range RPM, exactly where you need it. Gasoline ones may rev quite a bit higher especially on steep inclines. Although I am towing this large of a trailer I would recommend a smaller one (up to 25 ft - this one is 27) for SUVs due to side winds dangers. Good luck!
I'm purchasing a 2009 ml 320 cdi LOVE them .
I've towed a roughly 6000lb traler traveler cross country this year at 8800 miles average about 12mpg.
Gl320
Def had cooling issues.
Have amsoil low toxicity coolant.
Dash gauge is 100% off, was running at 222-232f that's NOT in the worst heat, ac off, only on on downhills makes huge diff.
Use obd meter not dash.
Tranny was always at 100c
Brakes never overheated
Worst pull is by Wyoming around 80f day up to 9000feet, was def dying, had to keep low speeds, stop to cool
Mount Rushmore also rough, back to main city
Stretched transfer case chain, easy fix, replaced chain only, not guide. Guide support let snapped, had to fabe a support leg for the guide to fix flawed design
Other issues, stutter at low torque prob air leak at turbo
Oil cooler seals leaking I believe
Injector seals replaced sprior to trip, one was bad
Yes, some have their issues…complex machines.
Thanks for posting this, just picked up a 2009 didn’t realize how much the towing capacity is!
So is it more than expected?
Thanks, this video was really helpful. I have a DIY 16ft 3500Lbs fiberglass shell travel trailer I built myself, and I chose a 2009 W164 ML320 Bluetec with a factory installed tow package for my tow vehicle. Was doubting my choice but you cleared it up for me 👍🏼
I am glad it helped. That trailer should be easy for the ML diesel.
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2009 has def system... Cost much more to use and maintain.
Mine is 2008 last year without the def system (bluetech) planning to buy a travel trailer around 4000-4500 pounds dry weight, looks like wont be needed a pickup truck, so im happy 😊
@jahsunshine8891 much more than what? Bicycle?
Loved the entire video. Thank you for you hard work & efforts in making this.
I am glad it helps. Not a pro movie:)
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I have a 2004 toyota sequoia wirh 400k miles that still tows up the hills of west virginia. Never done anything to it. Oil changes and tires and so tows an atv trailer at 65 to 70 mph
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What a beast!
It was indeed...
Beast 💪
True beast in disguise…
my ml320 cdi 2008 like me is perfec my trailer 20' nice car 100,% safety drivin..,,
Yes, at 20’ it would be just perfect…enjoy!
Thank you for a great video. Iv recently purchased a 2009 ML320 For towing a 17ft long RV i hope it works out well 🙏
Just saw this now. For 17 ft that should be no problem. Good luck! Please subscribe, thanks!
I'm picking up my 32" trailer tomorrow, towing with 2018 GLS450. Dry weight 6300 lbs. I'm definitely pushing the limits (for the size of the trailer, not the weight). Wish me luck!
That’s a bit heavy, once you put all your gear in it will be quite a bit more. Your main issue will be the tongue weight and the side winds. Be careful. And check the rear axle at the scale once all loaded up and weight distribution leveled. If it’s over, or a lot over, you have a problem. Legal, safety and wear and tear issues. Let me know how it works.
How is the towing for this? I have a 6000lb dry weight and picking up a 2019 GLE 450. Please update if possible.
Can you elaborate on the low range? I’ve only been able to see the older ML’s be able to go into low range, how do you engage it? Or can you at all? Thank you I appreciate the info. I’m looking at getting one of these next week.
I know this is an older video but would you know max tongue weight allowed? My trailer is 17' @2800 lbs dry with a 450 lb tongue weight. Thanks from BC
Knowing what you know now about the ML 320CDI, would you buy one again if you were do it over?
Yes, I would but not for towing this size of a trailer. For a smaller one and everyday use, yes. The ML CDI diesel did not have an AdBlue system, that made it a little more reliable. Once you properly updgrade the oil cooler seals (big job) to eliminate oil leaks and maintain it well it’s a beast of an SUV. You can find good used ones decently priced.
Thank you for all your hard work making this video! Very well done and inspiring!
I have a ‘08 GL320 and this video has given me the confidence that it can tow.
Question is, while towing do you just put it in drive, or use the manual mode? Maybe both?
Hi! Thanks for subscribing. I was using D to get up to speed and manual after for keeping it in 6th instead of allowing it go to in 7th. Less vibration, sweet butter spot for torque. The same fuel economy with less drivetrain stress. Also used manual to downshift and engine brake in steep inclines. What are you planning to tow?
@@maximusfuscus Oh, man, that’s excellent advice! I’m just planning on towing one of those Polaris Rangers that seat 6 people and has the snow Trax on it. Not too heavy. I have towed it with my ‘06 F-150 and it does it pretty effortlessly. We had another Baby last month and now need to sit 6 in the tow vehicle. We’ve had the GL for 5 years or so, and have taken it across the U.S. a couple times. I’ve never towed anything with the GL. It has the factory tow package. The Factory airmatic system has been replaced with Arnott. It’s ready to tow. Your video gave me the confidence in it that I needed!
@@bryceweaver8211 -Yes, that will be nothing for the GL, you’ll be amazed. Big difference when towing 6000 lbs of RV with walls and towing a flat, OHV on it, 6000 lbs. Much easier. I towed this RV with a GL diesel also. Now with a Touareg TDI. Underrated beasts…Actually, I am pretty sure the GL will tow it better than the 06 F150.
I would keep it out of the last gear manually and use engine braking while downhill.
@@SM-ol4rx - Yes, indeed.
Thanks for the video. It looks like you're running a whole lot of tongue weight. Do you know how much that is? Also: Is your ML running Airmatic suspension or regular coil springs?
Hi. Regular suspension. Tongue weight was at max allowed for the rear axle and a bit more at times when I had 3 occupants, full 100L diesel tank. I was also removing the batteries and gas tanks from the front of the trailer and relocating them in the back. Air suspension would help but wouldn’t make it legal. So I was pushing it but also watching it at the scales often, I had a free commercial scale near by. Wouldn’t recommend that much of a trailer for the ML. The GL I used briefly was quite a bit more stable. Longer, heavier and standard air suspension.
Can you give the weights of your particular travel trailer? You moved the propane tanks to the back to save tongue weight? Also, what kind of fuel economy have you seen?
5450 lbs empty. Yes, I experimented shifting weights at the back to save tongue weight, that way I was 100% legal for my 3 weight ratings on the vehicle (GVWR total, front and most importantly rear). Confirmed ar the scale. I was getting 18 litres/100km (13 MPG) on average but this is a high altitutde, high winds area year round. In other conditions (closer to the West Coast) I saw even 16.5 litres (14.2 MPG) on the highway. At worst, with bad head winds I saw 21 litres (11.2 MPG). Never underpowered. The weight of the trailer itself is not a real issue, the ML was rated for 7,200 lbs. The side wind gusts were always the danger.
I eventually left the propane at the front and added other water ballast at the back, it helps quite a bit with tongue weight.
@@maximusfuscus What MPG do ypu get unloaded with no trailer? 20-25?
I have a 28’ trailer, dry weight 5600lbs, I am experienced in towing and now I am not worried about using an 09 ML320 blutec as my tow vehicle.
We’ve been towing with my 01 f350 7.3 litre diesel and it’s big, noisy and not particularly comfortable.
Thank you,
David
Hello Folks - video(s) are great with cool drone footage. Everyone's comments have been very useful as I'm new to towing. I'd appreciate you're opinion as I'm anxious if I'd made the right decision with my choice of vehicles. I've a 2016 GL450 V6 with factory hitch (now done 8000 miles) and we've brought a FR Alfa Wolf 29ft travel trailer which is 5400lb dry - 600 Hitch weight. We plan to drive 6000 miles around the western US national parks over a 10 week period which means over some mountainous terrain. Is this set up capable or are I better off with a truck ? Thanks in advance, Paul
If you already have both vehicles I would correctly hook them up with a decent weight distribution hitch and take them to a scale. Verify front and rear axles + total GVWR (they are all written on the door sticker) to see if you are close over when the trailer is empty. Remember you will have fuel in the vehicle, probably a lot of luggage, gear, food, beer, etc…they add up quickly. The GL should tow the described trailer with no issues however you want to be legal in the case of an unwanted accident. Also watch the side winds, don’t drive too fast and be careful when passing or being passed by big rigs. 29 ft is quite long. If you have a truck ready it would give you more peace of mind when it comes to wind stability but it’a not a guarantee unless the truck is a heavy duty. The mountains are an issue only when descending steep, long inclines. You don’t want to cook (and lose) the brakes. Use manual downshifting to assist.
@@maximusfuscus Thanks for the reply Max. The travel trailer is waiting for us in Denver and we're in Florida right now so not able to test anything unfort. The plan was to simply arrive at the dealership, set up the WD hitch and begin our vacation. I'm just not sure if it's worth the risk which is why I'm asking a few experts now ;-)
@@paulthomas3316 - I see. Fuel up the GL, put some people inside (depending how many you’ll take) and weigh its rear axle. You will see how much you can spare. Then add the theoretical tongue weight of the RV trailer and determine how much (if) you are over the number. Don’t forget you are also adding a battery (mandatory for emergency trailer disconnect brake) and the propane tanks - which at times I used to carry them inside the trailer to the back. I also used to add a ballast at the rear of my trailer in order to keep the axle weight in check. Also didn’t put any gear at the front of the trailer. Don’t forget to add the weight of the WD system itself, that will help with dostribution ans stability but will add some pounds. By the way, I also towed with a Ram 1500 Ecodiesel. It towed great but when all loaded up I was still overweight, so only an HD truck will ensure you have room to spare. I did that too but it was overkill to me. Your GL is more than capable to tow this from a power/braking point of view. My GL350 Bluetec did great. My only issue in the prairies was side winds. The Rockies of British Columbia were no problem.
I’m considering a ml350 or 320 to tow a 26 ft sailboat. 5300lbs plus trailer, etc. would put me a bit over 6000lbs. What do you think? Too long? Also, did you have the factory towing package?
Hi. I had factory. It should be ok but check the tongue weight before doing it. It may press too much on the rear axle and make it lillegal/chew the tires excessivley. Otherwise the lenght will be only a driver/inconvenience issue. The weight is ok. Also, make sure to use the “off road” button when manouvering at the launch site, especially when pulling the boat out. This will engage low range and protect the transmission.
Oh. Make sure you are getting the ML350 Bluetec (diesel) and NOT the ML350 (gasoline version). The gasser will not have the necessary torque for that boat.
Oh. Make sure you are getting the ML350 Bluetec (diesel) and NOT the ML350 (gasoline version). The gasser will not have the necessary torque for that boat.
There is no doubt thay such small trailer would be an easier tow with German SUV vs. half ton truck. Truck crowd doesnt understand that low center of gravity, short rear overhang, wider independent suspension, better brakes are more important than a TV ad where their truck is shown when towing a trailer. 3/4 or one ton can provide a feeling "of better stability", but good luck with any emergency maneuvers. They will go straight like Titanic into the iceberg.
Any problems with your engine on your ml? Im looking to buy a 2011 ml 350 blue tech
No problems but that generation was prone to oil leaks. Oil cooler seals. Mine was taken by a moose, write off. Did a lot of towing like this. Changed the oil frequently. Ask if the oil cooler seals were replaced. The parts are not expensive but it’s a big job.
@@maximusfuscus thanks!
Average fuel mileage? When towing Now seperating mountain driving from stright highway and county roads. L/100km love the video, very stright to the point nothing fancy or over the top.
Thanks. 19-22 litres/100kms. Average. Actually in the mountains it was better than on flats because of no or little winds.
@@maximusfuscus from southern Ontario, and looking to buy one for pulling around a 17 foot aluminum boat, and a 21 foot car trailer loaded up with ATVs and Side by Side (not at the same time) major trips would include Northwestern Ontario in July and northeastern Quebec in August. So it's nice to get some insight information,
@@mrconductor144 - That should be piece of cake. This RV is a bit too large for the side winds. Good luck!
@@maximusfuscus Hi. Thanks for this. Amazing rig you have. I am looking at one to buy ML350 cdi now. Do you perhaps have fuel consumption figures for car only without towing please?
@@spienaar66 - Under normal conditions it should do an average of 7-8 litres/100 kms highway (or less if driving legally) and 10-11 litres/100kms in the City depending on traffic and lights. Not towing this is. I don’t have the MPG conversion handy.
What is the tow hitch being used?
It is hard to find one which does rise 5 inch
It had its OEM receiver + an L shaped ball holder with different heght holes for higer/lowe positions. Should be easy to find.
I have OEM mount.
I need to find the part that is connected with 2” ball.
Would you know which adjustable 2” hitch to use?
@@graceandjessicarealestate5031 - Not sure by the name, I will look for a more detailed photo and post it as a reply.
@@graceandjessicarealestate5031 - What vehicle are you using?
2015 ML350
Does your ML have Coil spring or Air bag spring?
Hi. Just factory coils. I also briefly towed that trailer with a GL350 Bluetec. That had factory airbags, much better ride (and heavier, longer than the ML) but when they break it sucks. All GLs have air-rides. On the MLs it’s optional.
@@maximusfuscus Hi Thank you for your answer.
I asked you as I am planning to tow a caravan with a gl350 with air springs. The durability of the air spring is questionable.
@@abchkbh - Yes. How heavy?
@@maximusfuscus I am considering buying a caravan weighing about 2500 kg(5500pound).
@@abchkbh - Empty 2,500 Kg? Are you in North America? I highly recommend checking the tongue weight of the trailer first. The overall weight of the trailer is not an issue so much as the weight it presses on the rear axle.
Isn't it dangerous to have propane tanks on the back of the trailer?
It may be if a vehicle crashes into you from the rear. But they are pretty sturdy, a guy shot one that was expired (but full) with a rifle and did nothing, just released the gas. This was just for the purpose of seeing how much tongue weight I can reduce.
@@maximusfuscus can't compare rifle with a truck crushing into you and the sparks it might produce xD, nvm, sorry for bothering, was just wondering, i would personally never put them there, to me they look like a bomb
@@Marko007ify - You may be right but in the event of a major crash the RV trailer is very weak, any large vehicle crashing it would penetrate to the front very quickly as well. Somewhat safer to put them in the front, sure. I don’t travel with them like that, it was just for the test. Not illegal here.
I'm planning to buy 0 km Mercedes benz amg gls63 to tow a caravan.
I would break it in first. Drive lightly for at least 1,000 kms. Don’t tow right a way. What kind of caravan?
@@maximusfuscus I will use the vehicle on average 70% city 30% caravan, camping, picnic, village, lake trip. As soon as I get it, I will add the trailer instantly. The caravan is a simple caravan weighing 2200 kg.
@@hakansalihoglu - Not recommended to tow brand new. You will start wearing the engine prematurly.
@@maximusfuscus Under the hood of the GLS63 is a twin-turbocharged 4.0-liter V-8 engine that produces 603 horsepower with the help of a 48-volt hybrid system. All-wheel drive is standard, as is a nine-speed automatic transmission and air suspension. Its acceleration from zero to 100 km/h in 3.6 seconds is even more than most sports cars. Torque is 850 nm. I'm pretty sure it'll pull a trailer like a beast. That's why I don't want to go and buy a second hand vehicle.
Wow! 1st: Tow ratings are determined using flat bed trailers on short distance special courses, NOT 9’ high RV’s. Big Difference. 2nd: Because of this you should never tow more than 75-80% of max tow/cargo capacities given by manufacturers. Called Prudent Man’s towing recommendation. 3rd: The wheel base on this SUV TV is waaaaay too short for this size RV. 4th: Empty weight 5400 lbs (Loaded 6400?). 5th: Max TV tow is 7200 lbs x 80%= 5760 lbs safe & sane amount. IMHO still way too much for this short wheel base SUV vehicle. 6th: Max payload 1442 lbs x 80%= 1153 lbs safe & sane cargo amt. 7th: Loaded RV 6400 x 12% tongue weight= 770 lbs + 2 adults (350) + hitch/W-D (100) + tools/junk in car (100 lbs) = 1320 lbs. 8th: You should never load back of RV (behind axles) with weight. You have a tow rack (lbs ?), (full ?) 2 propane bottles, (full?) 2 fuel tanks + spare tire/rack (150 lbs? on bumper ). Just because your owners manual/door sticker says it can tow something, doesn’t mean it can stop or maneuver in emergency situation. In an emergency that 6400 lb RV would push that short wheel base SUV vehicle around like a kid pushing a Tonka trunk. Well, stay safe (and lucky, I guess) out there.
One thing that everybody seems to leave out of the equation is driver skill. This beaten to death “wheelbase” argument is getting so old. It’s not like if you drive a dually F450 it will guarantee safety, I’ve seen 5th wheels and small trailers with big trucks belly up. I’ve seen lots of semis belly up because of extreme winds. It’s also about what kind of suspension the vehicle has, the four corners are attached the the wheelbase, no? Besides, put an F150 near an F350. There isn’t much difference in wheelbase, I would say not at all. But they obviously can’t tow the same, right? As far as breaking goes this setup was more than adequate, I had wildlife cross at night where I had to swerve and break heavy, no issues at all. The trailer is braked too. The ML’s brakes where large and cooled, never had fade. Driving on long downhills will cook your brakes no matter what you drive (seen those runaway ramps?) if you don’t know what you’re doing and relying only on the pedal. And why not put anything at the back of the trailer? I don’t see any issue as long as it’s not too heavy. The trailer has 2000 lbs payload in total. So in theory you have some validity but my point is the setup was legal and safe. Was it a stretch? Might be for the majority of drivers, that’s exactly why in the end I stated a shorter trailer is advisable. Btw, I towed this trailer with Ram 1500 Ecodiesel, Ford F150, Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi, Chevrolet HD 2500, Ford F250 Powerstroke. The HDs definitely had an edge in stability and braking but the half tons were not much better than the ML. Also the 6.2 V8 gas on the Chevrolet HD was struggling uphill compared with the Mercedes 3.0 diesel.
Driver skill will never make up for having the correct vehicle. Don’t know how driver skill is going to make your frame, axles and brakes stronger? You don’t put weight behind the axle because it adds to sway. Numerous videos on here about that with videos showing what happens when you load weight on the back. Wow, That is common towing knowledge. So much for “skill”! Half tons are not really great tow vehicles for a camper this long and probably weight. They are no more than grocery-getters with light duty frames, brakes, axles; like your Mercedes. Sorry, but your vehicle is not safe for that size/length RV. We have a 6.4L Ram with 25’ 5th wheel (7200-7400 lbs). We can accelerate up hill. Doubt that 6.2L could not do the same in tow mode vs your 3.0 diesel. @@maximusfuscus
@@maximusfuscus trailer weight sway video
ruclips.net/video/w9Dgxe584Ss/видео.html. Trailer sway video.
ruclips.net/video/cT0Ga3pJe6k/видео.html. Some else with a SUV that thought they could tow a large TT.
What's with unbearable backwards sounds..?. I wouldnt call it music..
Sorry…any suggestions?
@@maximusfuscus Informative human non computer generated narration might make for a better more interesting vid....
@@hackprine5691 - You mean by voice?
@@maximusfuscus Loved the Music. And this is by far the best Towing & break down video for the ML CDI period You are top notch for this excellent production
@@jahsunshine8891 - Music is always subjective, hard to find a neutral soundtrack.