Why I Declined Being an Elder? -Jehovah’s Witness
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- I declined becoming an Elder before I woke up and left Jehovah’s Witnesses. I was a witness for 19 years and I am a former regular pioneer and ministerial servant.
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If you never wanted a title why did you become a MS?
@joelee1195 What’s up, how are you? And I became a servant at 18 years of age and I didn’t have the awareness of the culture at that time. Also, I wasn’t waking up when I was 18 either. And I genuinely thought that I had to be a servant, etc when I was a teenager.
Simple: we grow in life and our mindsets change according to what we experience and the information we receive during various timeframes in our lives. 😉
@@JustWakeUp2704 Enjoy your new found Freedom. JW is a depressing cult that has ruined the lives of so many generations.
@@femiadewusi6011Hi, how are you? Thank you for watching and for sharing your thoughts. I am assuming you used to be a JW as well? And yes, the org has ruined so many lives, families, etc.
@@JustWakeUp2704Isaiah 8:10, 2Timothy 3:8-9.
@@femiadewusi6011Isaiah 8:10, 2Timothy 3:8-9.
Thank you for your most heartfelt honest sharing of your experiences leading up to appointments. What you've said is exactly how I have always felt. I was a good brother in the congregation. I loved my brother's and sisters in a real way. God knew how much I loved them. I was a sorce of frustration to the elders because I never cared about being appointed. I was used in the congregation up to and far as a non servant brother could be used. I was ok with that. I have no regrets. I am relieved that as it turned out I was never an Elder. In my mind being an Elder would have been counter productive to being a real brother to the friends.
@@JD-nb4rp Man, I couldn’t agree with you more. I am happy that you shared your thoughts and that you enjoyed the video. I wish most JW’s would just be real and acknowledge the real culture versus putting on a show for others in public. God wants us to do things from the heart and it makes you a better person when you are genuine too. I think this is why most of them slowly lose their humanity overtime because they don’t realize they are obsessed with pleasing men. 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
So, proud of you Isaac, for denying the another position in the organization. I say this because, I have sons who became elders. Because of my 43 yrs of being in the organization. I was a regular pioneer and served were the need was great. All with the hope to help others learn the Bible not organization. Want to give this gift to my sons who were my first priority.
I too never believe the organization and Jehovah God as the same. Tried to teach this to my son, but to no avail. Thank you 😊 I pray for their freedom. Free
8 yrs now, Praise Yah
@EmancipateitsFree-qt4yq Thank you for the compliments, I truly appreciate it all. I am glad that you are setting the courageous example for your sons, but of course as we both know that they think you are the one whom is lost. I just hope they don’t waste too much time in the org only to realize it’s all man-made and extremely destructive. Your testimony proves that you were a genuine believer like most people so it is/was definitely difficult for us to realize that we were tricked and massively deceived by the devil.
So, true, please may I have your email address. I tried to use the one given on RUclips but it was undelivered. I want to send thoughts not in the comments.
Thank you if not I understand.
@ Yes, of course. Email: isaacfittherapy@gmail.com
14:38 One of the biggest flaws of JW's everything is your fault. "Someone else is offended".. instead of working on themselves it's on you for offending them, instead of them to stop watching you (like Jesus says in the bible).
@Neroskully Yes, the entire one-sidedness of the stumbling block stuff used to really irritate me because I saw how they were misapplying it. I discussed how the misapplication of stumbling blocks started to wake me up too after I wrote my first book. I discussed the ignorance of how the elders’ applied the stumbling block unjustly in part 2 of my waking up story regarding why I left Jehovah’s Witnesses. Have you watched it?
Please like this video is important. Thank you all
@@Candyfav-b2p Thank you, I guess you really enjoyed this one? 😊🙏🏾. How are you?
Yes i do. Very informative. Keep up the good work you are saving lives one video at a time.
@ thank you 😊. I appreciate the support.
Nice oratory Isaac. Nice to see someone young like you that could think critically and logically. I was a JW for 55 years until the Covid debacle came into our lives. I always embraced the truth of God's Word and defended it well as years of pioneering, serving in Bethel; serving as an MS and then an elder. The Bible seemed to defend everything in doctrine that we were taught. I was appointed a young elder at 30 years. Served with some good men who it seemed were doing the right thing. But as one who always defended Bible authenticity and historical verification. So over the years, I began to see that elders operate by a different rule book than publishers. Their manual, the "Shepherd the Flock" book. THEIR RULES BEGAN TO TAKE PRIORITY OVER SCRIPTURE. Took me many more years to realize that; long after I decided to step down. Had a business to run and my family to care for.
But when I was DF'd for disagreeing with Covid area mandates; which I found NO SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT FOR; I began to realize the gross corruption that had infiltrated the JW organization. Just like the apostate (Bible's definition: Those that turn against Jehovah and his word.) influence in the first century. (Deut. 23: 15; 2 Thess. 2: 3-12 )
Men were judging their brothers over MATTERS OF PERSONAL CONSCIENCE AND OPINIONS OR BIAS: ( Romans 14: 2-12; 1 Corinth, 4: 3-6; Colossians 2: 13-19;.......1 Tim. 5: 21;.....James 4: 11, 12, and more. "Adding or taking away from God's inspired word" is CONDEMNED in the Bible! Deuteronomy 12: 32;.....Revelation 22: 18, 19)
@@connormusic9274 hi, thank you for commenting and sharing some things for me to consider. I will respond in detail after my workout. We shall chat shortly 😊.
1. **Interpretation vs. Authority** - If you believed JW doctrine was biblically sound for 55 years, what specific scriptural or doctrinal evidence-not personal experience-led you to conclude that the leadership was misapplying scripture?
2. **Personal Conscience vs. Organizational Structure** - Should a religious organization allow members to disregard policies based on personal conscience, even if those policies do not directly contradict scripture? Where should the line be drawn?
3. **Bias and Causation** - Did your disfellowshipping for disagreeing with COVID mandates reveal corruption in the organization, or did it primarily change your personal view of it? Would you have reached the same conclusion without that event?
Oops! Correction on a scripture listed in my prior comments: Jeremiah 23: 15 should have been the citation where I wrote 'Deut. 23: 15. Sorry!
@ thank you I will reply to this in detail after I finish exercising.
@ thank you I’ll reply shortly.
And I meant when “certain doctrines would contradict logic” and not “comprehend logic” lol
Ooh wee...you came with straight facts on this one 🔥 Great video!
@SameOleTee2 Thank you 🙏🏾. Yes, I just told it like it actually is. I find myself feeling more and more of myself true self each day. How are you doing today and thank you for watching and commenting?
@SameOleTee2 Thank you 🙏🏾. Yes, I just told it like it actually is. I find myself feeling more and more of myself true self each day. How are you doing today and thank you for watching and commenting?
@@JustWakeUp2704 I feel ya. I'm all about calling a thing a thing.
@ yep, if it’s a spade then call it a spade and not a pawn. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thank you for sharing. I have some relatives in the JW-org. Back when I was a teen in the UK I had many bible studies with them. I also attended many meetings, including the old house-meetings, eg when The Grand Climax was being used as a book study. Back then I never saw anything wrong with the org. I thought it would be a destination for me tbh. But I chose to pursue formal education, Degree\Masters, and by then I had moved to Norway. And it was in Norway, when my Masters ended, I decided and approached a congregation in Oslo near where I live. And that's when my eyes began to gradually open and I began noticing certain attitudes about certain elders, and how I kept feeling, as-if a spiritual push *away* from entering the org. It was quite strange. I kept encountering problem after problem in my efforts to establish some bible studies that would lead to baptism, but still kept trying to attach myself to the org, to get in, and after much effort and strange encounters with different elders at different congregations I finally got to speak to an elder who put me onto another elder with whom I back-then began some bible studies. Let us call the study conductor Matthew. Willingly, I shared with Matthew my tough journey trying to simply meet someone I could have bible studies with and how there was always a problem with my first 2 encounters at different congregations\locations, and I thought he understood, it was shared as a private thing, he told me the elders are not perfect. Matthew was very taken aback with my knowledge of the Scriptures, and that I had willingly come of my own free will, clearly showing a lover for God's word. But after 8-9 months of studies and attending meetings, during which there was a break in the summer - because the study conductor was abroad a number of times - I felt that there was something very cold about the people in the congregation. It had always been there. After all those months it seemed like 85% of the congregation had made no effort at all to know who the new face was, me. It was very unlike the Kingdom-Halls in the UK where it was much much friendlier. But now in Norway, people just hopped over me meeting after meeting to get to their seats and clearly couldn't care less who I was, some elders in that congregation, after all those months, had made zero effort to approach me. Later they would all make the excuse or . It felt like I was on the outside of a Christian congregation and not inside a place where the love of Christ filled the place. It just wasn't there for the most part. Some spoke to me, but most couldn't care less. It was so obvious. I even often mentioned it to Matthew. Norway can be a bit of a cold culture towards foreigners, but the inside of the Kingdom-Hall felt no different in that regard. It all came crashing down, not only because of the coldness, but when the elder I was studying with, Matthew, went behind-my-back to one of the other disappointing elders I had spoken about regarding\during my unpleasant journey to finally get to studying with Matthew and ask the other elder concerning what I had said, something I didn't expect from Matthew.
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You see, during my first effort to find a study conductor at another congregation\location, I spoke to a certain elder and the circuit-overseer who just happened to be in town. We spoke for hours about spiritual things, told them where I am from, the UK, that I know about the org from the UK but never got baptised and that I was ready to rectify this once and for all now that I live in Norway where I'd completed my Masters. They both realised that I had a love for God's word, it was obvious, Scripture knowledge is something you can't fake. But to my disappointment, after hours of talking about all different things, God, the Salvation, the World in various ways, the Scriptures, the elder who wanted to study the bible with me then said to my amazement: well now that we've had this long discussion, thank you for coming in, but before we can proceed I need a number from someone in the UK *to prove that you are who you say you are* 🤨😮 I was shocked. So I asked, really? I couldn't believe what I was hearing. So I think I politely said: I can't help thinking that if I was a Norwegian guy from eg the North of Norway and I'd come knocking on the Kingdom-Hall door of my own free will asking for a large-print bible and to begin some bible studies you wouldn't ask me\him to produce a number of someone in the North of Norway to prove that he is who he says he is😦😦😲 I couldn't believe what I was hearing. But the elder insisted, which for me was a deal-breaking right there. It felt totally insulting and totally unnecessary. Anyway, when I arrived home, I called the next day I believe and told the elder that due to that question to produce a number of someone in the UK the prove that I am who I say I am that felt insulted and therefore politely decline to continue, but thank you for the chat, I don't wish to study with you. You can tell he felt checked that I pointed this out to him and he was defensive also, trying to explain it away, but I wasn't having it. Your words were careless; my mind was made up.
It was with this in mind that Matthew went to find this other elder at the other congregation and told him what I had said about my experience in trying to acquire some bible studies,a bout having to provide a number of someone in the UK to prove I am who I am. I said nothing bad, just shared my journey and how unpleasant that elder was by insisting I produce a number for someone in the UK to verify my identity. It just felt weird and abnormal; this is bible studies, not a criminaI investigation. So, suddenly, one day after 8 months or so of studying with Matthew he came out with this, and he was quite annoyed with me and told me he approached that elder and proceeded to call me a ''liar'' to my face, telling me I had fabricated the story 😮☹😕 😆 I am a grown man. Like what the heck?! I'm not into lying and telling false tales. Matthew tried to scold me right there, saying that I should not speak such lies and that this is a small network and I cannot getting away with such lies. Then he ordered me to never speak about this matter again. Like what?! It was bad enough being insulted by one elder 8 months ago, but this other elder Matthew was now comfortably calling me a liar to my face as if I have nothing better to do than to fabricate tales, and telling me to never talk about it again. Well hold your horses there a little Matthew, and I proceeded to give him a piece of my mind and how utterly disgusted I was with him as an elder as well as that other elder who had utterly lied to him by denying his poor conduct or poor choice of words. Like why on earth do I need to produce a number of contact for someone in the UK just because I want some bible studies and to get baptised, as if I was some object of suspicion, all I did was knock on a Kingdom-Hall door for bible studies; and what further struck a cord with me was the fact that these two elders seem so corrupted on this matter, and their approach was so terrible and insulting to me. One was utterly lying by denying his own words because he felt bad, and the other was just believing him and had the audacity to insultingly call me a liar to my face, stating that he had known that elder for 7 years and so believed him. I thought to myself, yeah, like you could also easily believe an elder you have known for many years just because he denied s_xuaIIy moIesting a minor. What poor wisdom from an elder, that I had to be the liar just because the other elder was known to you, even if the error and poor choice of words were his fault. All I did was share my journey, how I finally got to you\Matthew.
Well, by the time I got to studying with Matthew, the second elder I'd also met along the way also had a bad attitude, and with the memory of all of them, I just decided that this is too much. I came in off the streets, so-to-speak, like a bird placed in your hand, and to be treated like this was a deal-breaker for me, the hypocrisy, the denial\lies, covering for each other, just too big to admit his choice of words were insulting, unnecessary, these altogether finally led me to viewing channels like Critical Thinkers, and I then decided that this is not an org I wish to be a part of ever. That second elder, to keep it short: I approach the Kingdom-Hall, it was mid-meeting, which I understood, so he took my mobile number and after I told him my interest, to get some bible studies and hopefully to get baptised, he show me to the door and promised to call me back. Well, after 3 weeks there was no call. So, I took a drive to that Kingdom-Hall, and met the very very same elder as soon as I walked in. It's as if it was meant to be. I said politely, you didn't call me:))) He replied, well, I didn't call you because the number you gave me did not match the your name. So I didn't call you😆😅 I thought one bad elder was unusual, but this now has to be a joke. I couldn't believe that he said that. EG, I didn't give you a contact number for you to check up on me. I came for the word of God. Like what is wrong with these people??🤨 And the thing is, I know, with all my heart, he was lying. Why? Because my mobile number has *ALWAYS* been ex-directory, meaning no one can find my number online, til this day it remains ex-directory, because I am a very private person. So this elder also was not only rude, weird, but lying. The hubris of this guy. You are an elder, not the police. I didn't give you a contact number for you to check the number but for you to contact me about the word of God etc.................... I just couldn't take any more of these guys and decided eventually I never want to be a part of this org. And never looked back. Today my interest is spiritual things is even stronger.
@-Bigli- Wow, this is a powerful testimony. I have been to the UK before but I only interacted with two JW’s I met while in London and they were working the carts.
I guess there isn’t true unity all over the world regarding kindness and hospitality. You didn’t miss out on anything by not joining, in fact you dodged a bullet.
How are things for you now?
Feel free to share more of your experiences because it helps people whom read the comments and I read every last word that people take time to write. I truly appreciate you commenting and sharing your thoughts.
@@-BigIi-I am reading this part now and I will reply to this section shortly.
@ You are welcome. It was in the UK that I both grew up and learned about the org through relatives. But in Norway became turned off completely - given the way I was treated with so much suspicion and a sort of profiling when it was I who willingly came to the Kingdom-Hall to establish studies, they didn't have to go out into the field to find me and work on me, I already knew the org and had had studies with my relatives during my teens - so that's where, in Norway, one after the other, those 3 elders were very disappointing.
Completely turned me off not long after, they began to open my eyes. After that experience I decided to take a closer look at the org, because what happened felt like a spiritual prevention, eg making many efforts to enter over a few months, going from one congregation to another, but just kept seeing the behaviour of those elders, the way they judged me, even after I came to them😨 first about insisting on a number for someone in the UK to prove that I am who I say I am, as if this is some kind of Bible-Study prerequisite, and second one was this researching of my contact number which I gave to be called back, and lying that it does not match my name. You are an elder, the number is merely a contact number - I couldn't understand his problem. It was just too much. The pre-judgement and fixation on the mobile number seemed to cloud his vision\judgement, and forgot all about the Bible study or the Bible I came for. The guy just seemed to miss the point and instead was preoccupied with meaningless focus.
You see, here in Norway, if you want to find someone's number there are about 3 sites you can go to and just by typing a name or a number both the name and number and address will come up. Or, you can straight google the number and it will lead straight to the name (if it is not ex-directory) and number and address. But my mobile is ex-directory and I didn't give my full name. So this second elder was not only somewhat offensive, as if he needed to check up on my number like a police officer investigating a crime, but a liar because my number has always been ex-directory and still is, so his claim of name-number mismatch was a lie. This is so crazy. I told him at the door you are a terrible ambassador for God, because if I saw Christ across the road and asked him about the word of God, he would not be consumed with which contact number I gave him. 😆😆The whole experience with those elders one after the other was just bonkers. After that, I viewed channels like Critical Thinkers and realised that I want nothing more to do with that organisation.
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Man, I greatly enjoyed this video. I swear I had some of the same thoughts: 'Don't want to assign me to do stuff... That's fine I'll take a break!' ✌️😎
@@thehigherevolutionary Lol I’m glad you enjoyed this one and I thank you for taking out time to comment and share your thoughts. Man, we endured some absolute nonsense in the org and that means we have a lot of patience. How are you today? I am so happy to be away from that toxic environment. 😊🙏🏾
@@JustWakeUp2704 Thank you for asking, I'm quite well and hopefully you are too. 'Satan's system' keeps me busy; I'm always on my grind developing myself as a professional. I left the cult about 6-7 years ago, so I'm not as affected by it as I once was. In fact, these days I am more fascinated by JW stuff; especially how it kept me on the hook for so long despite it being bereft of substance or genuine spirituality.
An elder questioned me about my workout routine. He asked why I do work out and not in a way to get to know me and my genuine interest in living a healthy lifestyle, but it came off as snobbish. It was in a way that said well you shouldn't focus on that now because we'll have perfect bodies in paradise, and you should use all your energy for the I organization. That's their answer to everything. Can a person not live a healthy life while waiting for paradise?
@HealerLightBringer Man, you just dug up several memories I had with this same thing. I used to get that all the time but I shut that down so quickly. I was always passionate about fitness and when someone came to be with nonsense regarding I would check them fast even at 17-years-old.
I felt the same way I can stay in shape whilst waiting for the end of the world.
Thank you for sharing stay in shape it’s one of the few real and beneficial things we have in this life.
@@JustWakeUp2704 As long as I'm able, I'll keep working out. 💪🏿
@ Yes, do that thing! I love health and fitness. 😊💯💯💯 We gotta stay in shape, health and fitness are essential.
Excellent video. Thank you. So many are leaving this evil cult and I’m glad about it.
@@arlenefisher4868 thank you and how are you? I’m happy to know that many are leaving and they should. I hate injustices. 🙏🏾 thank you for watching and commenting-I truly appreciate you.
Супер! Вы сохранили свою личность - это большая редкость. Они называют это " преимуществами". Так создают мнимые ценности. Оставьте себе эти преимущества.😄
Thank you so much and yes I am my full self. How are you?
@@JustWakeUp2704 из России with ❤️
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If you were/are an Elder, Ministerial Servant, or a Regular Pioneer, please share your positive and negatives experiences within these roles.
And if you are a sister or a woman whom used to be married to an elder then share your experiences as well. Or just share any experiences you had with elders’, servants’, and circuit overseers’.
And former brothers’ as well share your experiences with circuit overseers’ and elders’.
Thank you 🙏🏾 😊.
Please may I have your email address. The one in about you comes back undelivered. Thank you,
@JustWakeUp2704 yes very information. Keep up the good work, You are touching lives.
@ Thank you and All Glory to God. How are you?
Bro you hit it on the head with the wives part. Mines knew I wanted to serve as an MS and Elder at one point, and purposely not want to go in service and or miss meetings. Being a good man and husband, then it would overflow into the personal relationship part of the marriage to the point of frustration, I mean it was a mess. 🤦🏾♂️
@@bizzyb2622 man, I am happy you are sharing the brutal honesty of your experiences. It is so fake when husbands and wives put on a show just for a title or when they use the title to control you to fit their needs. It’s a very toxic environment and I am sure they are congregations that don’t have really toxic environments too.
@@bizzyb2622 thanks again for sharing and keep your experiences coming because they help others.
21:24 You'll feel something it's just nuanced and you think through it. More less after you train yourself to make good decisions. The bible supports this by training yourself to do good in all things not just religion but being smart too (God wants us to do good in life for ourselves ).
@Neroskully Man, I had no idea you weee experiencing all these feelings back at Mid-City. You are very intelligent, I can tell and your reasoning is sound. Looking back though I can see the misery on your face lol 😂 while you were at the meetings. But I was a true believer for a long time so I was definitely suffering from cognitive dissonance.
@Neroskully and yes, I agree with you God wants us to do something productive with our lives other than slave for a man-made organization until we die. Proverbs 18:16; Proverbs 22:29.
The organization does everything so mechanical, there's no room for fluidity or creativity. Also, the studies they had with people in field service, are the same. Jesus never talked about rules and protocols, but his anecdotes were to illustrate principles
@@AZrakoon What up? Man, you hit the nail on the coffin. It’s so interesting how so many of us all have the same experiences all over the world when one is being emotionally, spiritually, and intellectually honest. Thank you sharing. 😊🙏🏾
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@@propertyspeaks2344 💯💯💯
Bravooooo felicidades por tu libertad verdadera🎉🎉🎉🎉😊
@@skyone2380 Muchas gracias. Gracias por comentar.
I learned long ago that "Holy Spirit" has a lousy track record when it comes to vetting "qualified" persons.
@@collingalanos1783 thank you for sharing this and you are absolutely correct in my opinion-it is so obvious that it is man-made to me now. 😊🙏🏾
U mean Gods "active force"
@@mikehoncho73637 I stand corrected. 😂
@@mikehoncho73637 lol the Holy Spirit is powerful but we were trained not to fully tap into it.
Yes Good talk that is what I ask
@patriciabell3665 Hi, thank you. And what do you mean by this is what I ask? 😊
@@JustWakeUp2704 when I studying I would ask questions and I seen people act one way and not so loving around different people.
@ Yes, we will usually see a public image versus a private image, now there are plenty of real G’s as JW’s too and they are authentic all the time.
@@JustWakeUp2704 so I didn’t see that to much and they would call me worldly cause I wouldn’t become a JW . But I did hung around for some years.
@ You will be called worldly even as a JW if you don’t comply with the GB’s standards.
Yupp! JW's use you until you get baptized and then show there true colors / ignorance in general, and if you're busy / start pulling back they hate on you big time. Example high school or college finals week / month "why you don't this or that" 'bro I'm busy trying to make an A'.
@Neroskully Man, I never realized you were struggling so much at Mid-City. Well, you know it’s not Mid-City anymore lol because they have divided and merged that congregation twice now, changing its old name two times as well. Brother Jones from Mid-City is the main person going around, telling everyone that I am the A-word back in Baton Rouge. I don’t honor the A-word lol that they give former members’ because I believe you give it power by labeling yourself as an ad hominem that the org came up with.
I used to always wonder why it seemed like only elderly or middle-aged people responded to the message of Jehovah’s Witnesses? That’s why I was complimenting so much at Mid-City because they would say, “it’s so rare for a young man to come into the organization on his own like you did.” That definitely made me feel good about myself at the time, since my mom and so many other people in my family weren’t in the organization at the time.
I never was an elder etc no interest. But the first thing i noticed about the whole thing was the fake act and flawed process.
Regarding “stumbling” funny how something like you writing a book so called stumbles yet the GB stumbles thousands because of their CSA handling and they get a free pass
@@tim..t175 Man, you just made an EXTREMELY powerful point with the CSA comparison to me writing a harmless book. Their priorities are so ridiculous until it’s painfully laughable but despicable and disgraceful all at the same time.
I always decline Millstones ........The Elders necklace of choice 😂😂😂😂
@@kingofthedots3835 I love that analogy, it is great, how are you? Yes, that was definitely not a privilege…illusion and delusion are two very powerful tools.
I was a ms and saw many of the same things. In the end I finally had a study and I realized when preparing for the study and going over the material that I was teaching something I did not agree with I stopped the study told him why and left. That was it for me.
@mrfixitferg Wow, that was pretty powerful. When did you leave if I may ask? Also, what publication were you studying and what was it that you read that made you realize you didn’t agree with what you were teaching?
@JustWakeUp2704 I left a week before the beard change. I was pimo for way too long and into conspiracies. We were going over enjoy life forever if I recall correctly. And he was conspiratorial as well and we were discussing the earth and the facts don't line up between the literature and the Bible. Then I found references in the publications that were stated as fact which was baseless information regarding the solar system.
@ lol, I used to think the organization had geniuses at the top but now all of that is so laughable to me. I trusted everything they said regarding research so I didn’t even think critically about a lot of their scientific statements most of the time- but boy, when I started to notice things and when I looked at them with critical thinking it was a wrap for me-I woke up in 10 minutes after one scripture; Deuteronomy 18:20-22 and then I did a deep dive into things.
You have a lot of family still in? Are you managing okay? @mrfixitferg
@JustWakeUp2704 I trusted as well. It's so interesting how it was a light bulb type moment for us and the stars seemingly aligned enlightening that the truth was a lie. Thank you for asking about my family we are excellent my wife left right with me and she was an aux. Pioneer. We just adopted a baby and are so much happier. I do have family in still, my mom barely talks to me and hasn't talked to my wife since and they spoke almost everyday for years. Then just stopped. It was really eye opening. Maybe ill.make a video and tell my story and I'll link you to it. I'll try and get to that this week.
@ Yes, I would love to hear your story. And I’m happy you, your wife, and your child are well. Congratulations on the adoption and you all will be great parents now, especially since you are out of the org and have sound reasoning. I hope your mom and in-laws come around soon. Congratulations on you and your wife escaping together. 😊😊🙏🏾🙏🏾
I have a question. After leaving, how has your relationship with the Holy Spirit been strengthened? And would you now need or even want to ask an elder or anyone else the same question of how to know what the Holy Spirit is telling you?
@rogerelder1196 Firstly, how are you? And 1John 2:27 answers your question. I definitely have a good relationship with the Holy Spirit now or God’s Holy Spirit.
I am tuned in like never before…I turned up the volume and divine revelations and so much more constantly hits me. 😊😊🙏🏾
He ain’t lying about the part about wives using husbands’ desire to maintain elder or MS status as leverage to get away with being contentious.
But familial ties and access to sex are used to control male adherents and steer them toward being fully compliant. What do I mean by “access to sex”? An example of that is the unscriptural reasoning that if a brother isn’t an MS or elder, then he doesn’t qualify as a good potential mate. I’ve heard that in several talks.
These ppl know our natural human desires and engineer a culture where you have to run the watchtower gauntlet in order to those desires fulfilled
@@romeloburnett Yes, this was the first major crack in my foundation back in 2014/2015 when Anthony Morris made that comment about not dating a brother unless he was an MS or an Elder.
You are a very discerning man and I love it. I love real G’s and that’s who I roll moving forward. I can’t be around fake individuals anymore. Thank you for taking the time to comment on my channel and for watching my little video.
I hope you and your family are doing well?
Isaac
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@@patriciabell3665 thank you 😊.
I was married and Mr became MS and then Elder. It wasn't about him being a "spiritual man" because he wasn't ever to my knowledge and I think I knew having been with him for 25 years. I would think to myself, he didn't know the difference between pleasing God and kissing up to the men "taking the lead". What I know for sure is, it IS A BOY'S CLUB! Kiss up to those men and you can be in the club and it doesn't matter what abuses you are doing in your home. I have seen this not only in what was my marriage but in others. The wives of the MS and Elders put up with a lot and they are just good little wives who keep their mouths shut because they are to respect their husbands and how dare you tattle-the wife becomes the problem. I told the elders my husband gifted me with an std and they worked to set me up so as to df me. Looking back, I wish they had for then I would not have wasted another 25 years before I woke up to the lies of the org.
@curtainsup9 Hi, you are such a strong woman I can tell based on how you wrote your passage. I hate that you wasted time and I did too. We all just have to heal as much as we can and call lies, lies and be strong for real truth. What finally made you walk away if I may ask? And are you managing okay?
Warm regards,
Isaac
@curtainsup9 Hi, you are such a strong woman I can tell based on how you wrote your passage. I hate that you wasted time and I did too. We all just have to heal as much as we can and call lies, lies and be strong for real truth. What finally made you walk away if I may ask? And are you managing okay?
Warm regards,
Isaac
@@JustWakeUp2704 I started going to meetings as a date with Mr X when I was 15. I had gone to other churches off and on before that. I felt like I learned more about the Bible at the KH than anywhere else. MrX mom gave me the "truth" book. I read it and believed it. NO one studied with me. When I was 16 and Mr X was turning 18, it was decided that his parents would sign for us to get married IF he was baptized and he said if he got baptized, I would have to be too and I saw no problem with that. He rarely went to meeting thereafter, but I did until I asked some elder to help him and one who was a supervisor came to visit and not only encouraged him to go to meetings but gave him a job!! So he kissed up and became a MS but eventually was df for adultery and stupid me thought I had something worth saving and he was determined to get back in real quick, like in 6 months and he got baptized again! ...after being married for 25 years,as mentioned he gifted me with an STD and he was an elder at the time, and my head was on the chopping for reporting him to the good ole boy's club. They told me to keep my mouth shut and told him he had done nothing wrong and wouldn't remove him as an elder when he asked them to became I was telling him he shouldn't be. When he told me the elders wouldn't accept him not stepping down, I told him the congregation wouldn't want him conducting the WT if they knew the truth about him. He moved away and I was ostracized and even there was a plot against me. They tried to say I was speaking against the elders so they would have reason to df me. The set me up like this: They had an elder from a congregation in another state call me and act like he was ignorant about the situation and talking about some business equipment we had. He let something slip so I knew he was up to something ,so we got into a conversation how mr X wasn't there and here is the set up: He asked me if the elders were doing me any good > ( SEE, a trick to get me to speak against those sneaky elders ) I was on to him! I said, "No, they are not doing me any good, but they aren't doing me any harm either." Another elder had his wife take me to dinner! ( like she was concerned for me and I was on to that as well. ) You would have thought that would have woke me up, but it didn't . I thought they were just imperfect men and it was God that I was worshipping and not men. I told myself that same story many times over as I have to say there were several things the JW drilled into our heads that I really didn't believe, but again I chalked it up to being human ,making mistakes and Jehovah would work it out in time./////I also told myself if I ever came to learn something I could really point to that I knew wasn't just human error, but a complete false teaching, I would leave.///I was in for 50 years. Then the plandemic!! and the GB coercing and emotionally blackmailing the members to take the jabs. I became more unhappy everytime I watched the broadcast updates. I watched the zoom circuit assembly and the CO was saying we had to have faith in Jehovah and if we had faith in Jehovah, we would have faith in the GB and we would obey them and take the vx. I could finally prove to myself from the Bible they were deliberately not teaching truth. ///Think of the people who were df for smoking because they were defiling their flesh. I was watching biologists, virologists, and various doctors telling what was in the vx-even having being built on the cells of aborted babies. How disgusting! Talk about defilment! ///My best friend was a pioneer and she was talking about her study not progressing and I just couldn't pretend to have sympathy for the situaltion so I told her I didn't think the Governing Body was appointed to be God's channel. ( at that time, the meetings were on zoom and I would turn it in, mute it and do whatever! ) I figured she would out me! She decided I was spiritully sick and was going to get me some help. I told her not to worry about it. I would take care of it. I wrote a long letter that I couldn't wait to post to send to the elders showing them in writing my reasons for not believing what the JW were teaching. ( I had started researching some things by that time and found out why they didn't want you to watch or read apostate content- The apostate content I saw was the truth about the truth. I had been in for 50 years and I knew the so called apostates were not making up anything, but highlighting the false teachings that had been replaced with the JW forever flickering new light. ///I hope anyone and especially someone who is a JW who has read this long answer will realize this: Our Heavenly Father doesn't change. He doesn't channel false teachings to a group of self appointed men only for them to later blame him ( Jehovah ) for not letting them have the full light to begin with. If you are really honest, any witness has gone out and published life changing lies to people! It's a dishonest organization and in more ways than I can put in this comment.///I am going to wrap this up: I am coping just fine. I left during covid and zoom and the meetings were starting back up and the friends who had taken the jabs that I used to go to lunch with sometimes never included me anymore. I worked from home solely supporting myself. I had the one pioneer friend who I saw every now and again, but rarely. I knew once I wrote the dissasociation letter I would be shunned....from where I was sitting, I had only one friend to loose at that point!///What family I have left aren't JW and we have always gotten along, although we are not close. I am sorry for those who become so distraust when they learn they have been duped and made a fool of. I personnaly am thankful! People need to be thankful they have woken up and it will help them cope. I don't know how PIMOs do it. They don't know how much happier they will be if they are just honest with themselves, get out and let the chips fall.( I know many feel they have more to loose than I did) Our Heavenly Father wants to be worshipped with spiriit and TRUTH. He won't abandon them...sadly the JW, have done such a number on people, many abandon God. That is the worst. One more thing: I don't believe you can find truth and worship the Father in Spirit and in Truth in any organized religion. Jesus it the way, the truth, and the life. Thanks for asking....Best regards ( I appreciate your videos )
My friend Im in a congregation right now with elders that are displaying fakeness so bad that believe they are better are better than me and these elders will not listen to you but they will judge you 😮
This was very interesting. So one body of elders had a problem with some things you did, while another body of elders didn't. So, which body of elders was the spirit working through? 🤔
I remember some people in the congregation being called submarines, because they only surfaced when the circuit overseer came. 😂
@wantingtolearn2732 Lol, man you gave me a great laugh “submarine”?. lol that is a great way to compare it to because so many of them would put on this huge show for the CO-it was so fake. (However, there were some genuine elders’ whom were consistent. Yes, each body of elders’ were different; some more strict and some were not so strict. I was just tired of all the micro managing. I used to observe how packed the Kingdom Halls would be when the CO came and then when he left the attendance dwindled again. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏽♂️
@JustWakeUp2704 it was embarrassing sometimes how some would behave around C.Os.
You made the right decision turning down the idea of becoming an elder. I had it suggested to me once, but I knew it just wouldn't work.
When things weren't right in the congregation we would often be told to leave it in Jehovah's hands, but it became evident that there was also many things wrong with the organisation and that it was not the truth.
@ Yes, there are things that should be left in God’s hand but 90% of the things that the org attempts to leave in God’s hand, actually shouldn’t be left in God’s hands because it was problems that the org/elders’ could’ve handled because they cause most of their own problems themselves.
@@JustWakeUp2704 in the first century they had ones like Paul who could step in and get things sorted, but that just doesn't exist today. Galatians 2:11-14.
The problem with the organisation is that they teach doctrines of men with many of their teachings.
@@JustWakeUp2704 In the first century they had ones like Paul to correct things, but today unfortunately we don't have that. Galatians 2:11-14.
**1Samuel 16:7
Glad you seen the fakeness
@@FishGAMER-R6Z thank you and yes I did. How are you? I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Are you a former JW?
They read your book or watch your videos they would know how to do all the things you do.
@@tonymlealv Thank you and perhaps just a few things because I only shared 10% of my true thoughts/beliefs in my book. But I’ll have a plethora of nonfiction and self/development books coming soon. 😉
9:46 mark in this video : birthday . 9 46 + 1000 year REIGN of CHRIST = 1946 , birth year of number 45 / 47th president . Kaiser Wilhelm II , the last German emperor , the World War I Kaiser , was born on January 27 , 1859 , died on June 4 , 1941 . The last three digits : 789 , Revelation 17:10,11 and 17:14 . Seven Times , 365.25 x 7 + 372.25 = 2929 + 789 = 3718 divided by 2 = 1859 . 1859 + 1941 + 1946 + 2025 = 7771 divided by 4 = 1942 . 75 (birth year of the 46th ... ) ; 1942 + 75 = 2017 , number 45 became president on January 20 . January 27 , 1859 ; Jan. X 27 + 28 = 55 + 1859 = 1914 .
@@danial6109 Hi, most of this seems foreign to me other than the conceptual aspects of the math itself I follow you there but we need to chat about this so I can better understand how you came to these conclusions. I love to learn from others and give things a fair chance without forming any judgments until I have thoroughly indagated matters. Matthew 7:1-3; Proverbs 18:17; Luke 16:10.
As a former JW ministerial servant I advise all black brothers to reread and reteach ourselves the scriptures knowing that we are the people -true Israelites fulfilling the scriptures. The time of our ignorance of the scriptures is over. Those of us already awakened are now roving about the books and bringing out the true meaning and message to guide the faithful.(Daniel 12:3-4)
The peoples of the other nations have a conspiracy to hide and replace us as the people of the book,servants to the almighty God for along time. But our God YHWH pronounced YaHuWaH is now removing the veil from our eyes. That is for those from Israel’s descendants who are searching for their God (Isaiah 65:8-10).
Yes,we are to leave the religions taught to us by our slave masters and colonizers if we are going to be accepted by our God YaHuWaH in these last days (Isaiah 10:20, Hosea 6:1-3). Ask me questions if the spirit of our God is in you and I will help guide you.
@thelightofzion How are you? Thank you for sharing your thoughts and everyone has freedom of speech on my channel as long as we respect one another. Yes, I do have questions for you. Why do you highlight the race of former black brothers’ alone? I view us all as a large human family? Acts 10:34-35.
And No attack my dear brother I am just curious and I love to learn from others. All love here on my part 😊🙏🏾.
@ it is not a hatred of anyone or people of other races. However,the scriptures made it very clear that there is a chosen race (Deuteronomy 7:6,1peter2:9)by God to serve the will of the almighty God in the kingdom (promised land territory)as YaHuWaH promised to Abraham (Genesis 15:13-16). This race is still serving the will of God- (the blessing and the punishment (curse) for revolt against their God.
YaHuWaH declared that his covenants with this race cannot be changed. In other words they will never be replaced by others. (Jeremiah 31:35-38). This race serving the will (the imposed punishment) from YaHuWaH ; from them God will raise up a kingdom of priests and kings that will execute righteousness and justice for the blessings of all the families of the earth (Genesis 12:3).
God has an appointed time for accomplishing his activities and promises. However,people of the other nations have to recognize this and stop mistreating and misleading the chosen race to serve other gods.
Good question though. If you are one who seeking understanding of the things written, examine the scriptures and see if it is true (John 8:31-32). We got involved with this religions because we were seeking for the true knowledge of the living God. I hope my answer helps you and others so far. I welcome more questions.
@ I’ll definitely be studying these scriptures. I truly appreciate you taking the time to list your thoughts and express yourself. You obviously have arrived at this conclusion for a reason and I definitely I’m curious to ascertain your full perspective whilst examining your evidence while also praying to God and letting the Holy Spirit direct me through Christ my Lord and Savior as well. 🙏🏾😊.
When did you leave JW’s? And what caused you to wake up if I may ask?
@ I left in 2015 after many failed attempts to help the congregation elders,CO and governing body see the errors in their teachings especially about who the true Israelites really are today based on what is written (Mathew 7:20, Deuteronomy 28:1-68 etc). I tried to help them see the error in the replacement of Israel’s descendants teaching. I was removed as MS and disassociated from the congregation.
I kept studying 📖 the scriptures and researching them knowing that the negro race is the race fulfilling what is written. It kept lining up like solving a puzzle when you have found the main connecting piece. I must tell you that it’s the work of the Holy Spirit promised to only Israel’s descendants (Isaiah 59:20-21,John 14:16-18) that I was given the understanding of these things.
So keep begging God for the help of his spirit to understand the things written. The scriptures are true but many people are hiding or trying to corrupt its real message. The scribes 🖋️ and the Pharisees are still here today corrupting the words of God given to Israel and her descendants to observe. They have added leaven a corrupting misleading agent in order to control the deceived masses. Keep your eyes open.
ISAAC. YOUR PROBLEM IS: YOU ARE TAKING UP SPACE ON THIS PLANET. DO YOU REALIZE THAT?
(That my beautiful friend, is a JOKE!) It's clear God has blessed you and chosen you long ago. I am so excited by you because you are following scripture. You have the right focus. There is so much I want to cover with you. But here is the experience you asked for:
MY FATHER. My father got into the religion because of my mother. My mother was the zealous one. My father was just going along. That was his personality. He gave public talks at one time and was a wonderful speaker. He also was a ministerial servant. But he suffered some various abuses over the years by the congreation and elders. So that end the end, he decided that he'd just attend meetings and do his thing but he didn't want to be a ministerial servant nor an elder. He was just a brother in the congregaton who had been a witness for years but who was not interested in the congregation heirarchy at all. I thought that was incredibly brave of him. He died in 2017 directly related to anemia and refusing a blood transfusion. I explained to him from the Bible that the Bible does not condemn eating blood. But at that point he was old and tired. He told me he underrstood but since he had gone along all this time, may as well finish it out. He didn't care. He's go along to the very end. At that point, I simply supported his decision. He went along as far as he could stand it, but it was clear he had drawn a line. He'd seen too much. So, in a way, he wasn't buying any phoniness. He didn't mind being a witness, going to meetings and being friendly, but he wasn't having anything else to do with the Witnesses.
THANK YOU, again, for sharing your experience and showing the hypocrisy of the culture of Jehovah's Witnesses. You have the proper perspective of the relationship the religion should be in relation to our relationship with God. The religion is supposed to support our personal relationship with Jehovah, not become mediator.
Have a blessed day.
@@charliesmith3777 I will respond since I desire to show the same level of interest you did to take out time to write me. 😉 meanwhile thank you.
@@charliesmith3777 Lol I appreciate you cracking jokes with me…I have a great sense of humor by the way. So I just finished reading every line you typed and it is sad that he died like that from not taking a blood transfusion. Also, it was interesting that he knew things were wrong but decided to finish it out anyway. I think there’s so much in his statement that he was tired. 😢😢
I think so many just give up because they have invested so much time and energy into being a JW.
I truly appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences whilst also giving me sincere compliments 😊🙏🏾.
How are you doing today? And here’s my email: isaacfittherapy@gmail.com
We can set up a time to chat verbally soon.
Thank you,
Isaac
@@charliesmith3777 and you have a blessed day too. 😀