Chopin's Early Polonaises (1817-1829) - Stefańska/Stefański

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @mantictac
    @mantictac  5 лет назад +24

    Hello, and thank you for watching. I will hopefully be posting other collections of Chopin's works, as well as my own editions from manuscripts, fairly soon; so if you're interested in those kinds of things, you can subscribe if you'd like. It doesn't personally benefit me (I don't monetize what I make) but it does help to bring the more obscure Chopin works, like these, closer to the main Classical/Romantic audience. Thank you very much.
    imslp.org/wiki/User:Piupianissimo (high quality scans of many different works, including these ones)
    ruclips.net/channel/UCZ9cHqsiTwKyoG9nrWp1zTA (davidhertzberg1, older recordings of classical works: vintage LPs, and such)
    The editions I used in this video were all from The Institute of Frederic Chopin, edited by Paderewski.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 3 года назад +11

    50:35-50:53 "no, not that key ... no, not that one either ... nope, try again ... one more key change ... ok just one more"

  • @OfficialSoupelin
    @OfficialSoupelin 5 лет назад +61

    Amazing! To think a 7 year old can produce such sophistication, and it keeps adding up as his life continues.
    Not to mention the use of Late Classical devices such as Alberti Bass which almost disappeared from his later works

  • @Loscty
    @Loscty 3 года назад +23

    Polonaise in G minor (1817) [Stefańska] - 0:00
    Trio - 1:38
    Polonaise in B-flat major (1817) [Stefańska] - 3:38
    Trio - 4:52
    Polonaise in A-flat major (1821) [Stefańska] - 7:50
    Trio - 10:32
    Polonaise in G-sharp minor (1824) [Stefański] - 14:19
    Trio - 16:37
    Polonaise in B-flat minor (1826) [Stefański] - 20:31
    Trio - 22:14
    Polonaise in D minor (1826), Op. 71 No. 1 [Stefańska] - 25:12
    Trio - 27:14
    Polonaise in B-flat major (1827), Op. 71 No. 2 [Stefańska] - 31:03
    Trio - 34:05
    Polonaise in F minor (1828), Op. 71 No. 3 [Stefański] - 39:04
    Trio - 42:28
    Polonaise in G-flat major (1829) [Stefański] - 46:19
    Trio - 49:01

  • @Tijaxtolan
    @Tijaxtolan 2 года назад +2

    G flat minor polonaise is so beautiful, so triumphant, so elegant, it made me tear alongside op 71 n. 2

  • @firoza8994
    @firoza8994 4 года назад +35

    These polonaises are pretty interesting to hear. I especially like the G flat major, not as brilliant as his later works, but it would have done him no shame to have it published in his lifetime. It's an excellent polonaise, its character is similar in sound to parts of his later polonaises and reflective of his development into maturity, all the while maintaining the grace and glory of the Polish dance.

    • @laurie7357
      @laurie7357 4 года назад +3

      I think his early polonaises were published during his lifetime but under the name of his father because little Chopin was too young. They were later published under his name after he died. :)

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  4 года назад +4

      @@laurie7357 A few of them were, particularly the first and second. The third was a gift for his teacher. The rest though, I'm not sure.

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  4 года назад +3

      It's not entirely out of the question that he may have intended to publish some of the later Polonaises, and Chopin forgot about them or decided that he didn't want to pay a publishing price. It's absolutely one of my favourites of the collection.

  • @PEDRO_boaro
    @PEDRO_boaro 2 года назад +9

    if someone told me that these were Beethoven's last bagatelles (published posthumously), I would believe

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 2 года назад +8

    The first one - written by a 7 year old! Luckily he had pedagogues bright enough to just teach him the musical craft and let his compositional talent grow by itself - because they could hear, he had the potential to develop himself as a composer. Lucky for us!

  • @MiScusi69
    @MiScusi69 3 года назад +21

    This demonstrates that he was a genius: he was 7 years old, but could compose this rich, sophisticated music!

    • @Tizohip
      @Tizohip 2 года назад

      47:12 this is so beautiful i dont have words for this part. Simple and beautiful.

    • @frzkd5053
      @frzkd5053 Год назад

      for sure he was 7 years old..

  • @wojciechpodsiado3381
    @wojciechpodsiado3381 4 года назад +12

    That's... That's Wonderful!!!

  • @hannastaszak1684
    @hannastaszak1684 3 года назад +5

    Piękno muzyki Fryderyka Chopina to fenomen graniczący z cudem .

  • @MrGenijus
    @MrGenijus 2 года назад +1

    thank you.

  • @HGraabæk
    @HGraabæk 4 года назад +14

    Having listened to almost all of Chopin a music I have to say that the polonaise in G flat is definitely one of his most beautiful pieces except for maybe his mature sonatas, his Polonaise-Fantasie and his op 62 no 1 nocturne. It is almost like a Polonaise-Ballade, with everything from simple (yet beautiful) melodies to incredible deep and dramatic melodies. One of the sadly underrated gems of romantic piano.

  • @erikfreitas7093
    @erikfreitas7093 2 года назад +2

    The three op. 71 polonaises are wonderful. I have no idea why Chopin didn’t deem them worthy of publication while he was alive.

  • @Tizohip
    @Tizohip 2 года назад +5

    47:12 why this is so beautiful?

  • @arahovanessian7042
    @arahovanessian7042 2 года назад +2

    Stunning!

  • @Jimbarleyy
    @Jimbarleyy 4 года назад +11

    You can see that the Scriabin waltz in F minor was heavily influenced by Chopins Polonaise in F minor

  • @Yannoux3000
    @Yannoux3000 3 года назад +1

    Mon Chopin chéri, merci.

  • @JaneYHe
    @JaneYHe 3 года назад +4

    I like polonaise in A flat major

  • @pranavmurali8022
    @pranavmurali8022 2 года назад +2

    The G minor one is my favorite

  • @terfi5213
    @terfi5213 2 года назад

    These are played very well!

  • @Xemi_
    @Xemi_ 3 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @luhasianboy
    @luhasianboy 4 года назад +8

    i like the polonaise in b-flat major i mean his second polonaise

  • @hannastaszak1684
    @hannastaszak1684 3 года назад +2

    Mój wielki Rodak.

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V 5 лет назад +22

    26:23 ...

  • @chaserivera1623
    @chaserivera1623 2 года назад +2

    His first two polonaises sound so mozartian. His third sounds like Mozart but with a romantic influence. His fourth sounds like polish Beethoven and is more playful. The fifth polonaise sounds very experimental using advanced decorations, pushing his limit. In the trio section at 27:15 it shows his counterpoint mastery at 16 years old. And finally at 36:00 I think this is the first instance where he uses chromatic harmonies at 17. The same year Beethoven died he took his place as master of the keyboard

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 3 года назад +4

    28:25-29:05 nice sequence

  • @korosilorinc6058
    @korosilorinc6058 3 года назад +8

    What piano is it??
    If has a magically beautiful sound!!

    • @zacksima8333
      @zacksima8333 3 года назад +5

      It’s just one tuned half a step higher to replicate old Chopin era tuning

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  3 года назад +7

      @@zacksima8333 Well I believe the tuning discrepancy is from differing recording and playback speeds of the LP. It's a common thing with LPs. Musicological considerations like tuning were probably fairly rare when this recording was made.

    • @alicechong5860
      @alicechong5860 Год назад

      @ManticTac you like LPs? That's great nowadays young people don't appreciate ! And also you like historical recordings? Not many people listen to these especially on LP!

  • @keithyeung9097
    @keithyeung9097 3 года назад +5

    The beginning is almost the same as
    Ludwig van Beethoven - Allegretto in c minor, WoO 53

  • @Loscty
    @Loscty 3 года назад +6

    8:09.....

  • @margaretayroles3607
    @margaretayroles3607 4 года назад +2

    Sublime, quel bonheur

  • @alexparkin8736
    @alexparkin8736 3 года назад +2

    Это же настоящий рок...

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 5 лет назад +10

    Didn't you play the first polonaise in school?
    By the way, happy birthday 18 days later!

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  5 лет назад +6

      Yes I did, although I admit it was a very low-effort performance. I played it way too fast.
      Oh, and thank you!

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 5 лет назад +2

      It's normal because it is difficult enough to perform in front of hundreds of people.

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  5 лет назад +5

      @@tarikeld11 It was a strange experience, because I constantly felt like I was going to make a mistake, and for whatever reason, I tend to play better for people than alone. It's a much different experience. At home I think about the notes that I haven't played yet, and in performance, I can only think about the notes I've already played.

    • @insulini
      @insulini 2 года назад +1

      @@tarikeld11 I confirm that.Even if it's twinkle twinkle, your hands freakin shake like vibrators.

  • @Xyriak
    @Xyriak Год назад

    genius

  • @elias7748
    @elias7748 3 года назад +3

    Beetchopin

  • @ruperttmls7985
    @ruperttmls7985 3 года назад +1

    03:39 Clementi? Are you there?

    • @elias7748
      @elias7748 3 года назад +1

      I know. Sounds so much like him

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 Месяц назад

    Nothing of this shows us about a magic trick that happened 1829.

  • @elias7748
    @elias7748 3 года назад +3

    Clemenchopin

    • @mantictac
      @mantictac  3 года назад +2

      You're making me want to write some Chopin hybrid works. My favourite has to be Chmozinart.

  • @elias7748
    @elias7748 3 года назад +3

    Chmozinart

  • @Lamtipul
    @Lamtipul 2 года назад +1

    to me, the first polonaise sound really similar to late Mozart work

  • @charlottewhyte9804
    @charlottewhyte9804 3 года назад

    don,t know these at all

  • @pierluigidinardodimaio3708
    @pierluigidinardodimaio3708 3 года назад

    Bethoven poolish

  • @ld_blue4348
    @ld_blue4348 3 года назад

    Большинство полонезов играются не в указанной тональности и из-за этого раскрываются гораздо хуже

    • @elias7748
      @elias7748 2 года назад +3

      That is because this is an old recording from the 60s. Of course he played it in the written key.

  • @Asdry_1278
    @Asdry_1278 2 года назад +1

    chopin don't like minor.

  • @doot7779
    @doot7779 3 года назад

    Pfft that’s nothing