Also, I think when E.T. says "home phone" Drew Barrymore says "phone home" immediately after. Probably subconsciously making us think that we misheard E.T. and then attributed the "phone home" line by Drew Barrymore to E.T.
It feels like an alternate reality to me. I suffered a cardiac arrest in late 2019. Before I died, there was no COVID, after I woke up from a coma, there was COVID.
The E.T. one is simple. In that scene, they correct him by saying, "E.T. phone home". When Michael walks in, E.T. properly says the line. I'd bet the reason why people remember it differently is because I've seen promotional material where they take the audio from the correct line and put it over him pointing out the window. They do that all the time in film ads and trailers.
People forget how their memories are affected by other people's mistakes as well. If one person misremembers something in a conversation with another person, that other person is likely to acquire that misinformation.
holy shit dude I thought Ed Mcmahon gave out publishers clearing house checks too! I also remember the Lindbergh baby being missing too, and people claiming to be the missing child in the 80s.
To give them credit though, they do say “E.T. Phone Home” immediately after and then E.T repeats it, correcting himself. They say it many more times than the thing he says the first time
its at least well known pop-science that people remember things better if they hear it 3 or more times, they say "ET phone home" 4 or 5 times after ET says "ET home phone" once. it really isn't mysterious
I dug for days trying to find the books I had as a kid because I remembered so clearly that it was Berenstein. The book I found was Berenstain and I feel like Ive been betrayed by 8 year old me.
I was totally looking for this specific reference, because this broke my consciousness a few years ago. For some reason I always pronounced the name 'BAY-urn-steen' Bears - despite there being a total lack of an 'e' in 'stain'. Madness.
Grag actually addressed this in his previous video on the subject. It, like a large portion of this sort of thing, is a result of your brain streamlining an awkward design. -stein makes more sense because it's a very common genmanic surname (or part of, rather).
The theme music is recycled from the last two entries in the Elder Scrolls. And if your talking about the Switch version, then yes it was released several times before that one.
The Mandela effect is basically "im not wrong you're wrong" personified i mean so many people soooo CONVINCED they are NOT wrong they use alternate timeliness and universes as an explanation
It's not really though, the term itself just describes the feeling rather than any alternative reality theory. And most of the things that are given as examples are things that multiple unconnected people remember unprompted, it's not just one person vs the world.
@@Drood. I wouldn’t be mad if it was just the feeling of finding out a false memory was wrong, but there’s been a lot of people legitimately saying tits shifting into parallel universes.
@@realhumanbean7915 Yeah, but you can experience the effect without being one of those people, like a feeling of dèjá vu, they're both just terms for false memories. I'm not saying no one says that.
The Fruit of the Loom really hits me. In 2008 I was a Merchandising Manager for Khol's. One of their big licensed sections is Fruit of the Loom and we had to update their advertising every two weeks. We always called it the "basket of fruit" section. Why would we ALL say that if there was no basket? I always remembered it as having a cornucopia.
It was scientific attempts of cracking down the Magic of The Fae... To say that "it worked" it would be a bit of a misunderstanding... it was like if the cat of Schrodinger (note: he never had a cat) teleported out of the box & started biting the scientists, transforming them into radioactive zombies. -> You DO NOT play with Pataphysics!
I not only remember Ed McMahon showing up at peoples houses with giant PCH checks, I remember Johnny Carson cracking jokes about it on the Tonight show
I can't believe you didn't bring up the Berenstein/Berenstain Bears! That's the one that really got me. I SWEAR it was Berenstein when I was a kid... Still loving this series BTW, thanks for the awesome uploads Skeptic!
Once someone makes an imperfect reference and it sticks, that's it. The Mask example is great since I never heard the original, but remember well the Mask one.
Thats the argument I make with the "Luke I am your father" quote. In the movie he says "no, I am your father" but that lacks the context. If you add the word Luke, you add context without having to play out the whole scene. People say it that way on TV a few times and boom, that all anyone remembers
@@armouredskeptic Yeah, that totally makes sense. Love your vids, btw. If you ever want to make a video about how feminism is ruining the game industry and need inside info, I would love to share some. ;)
In the early 90's I saw several movie trailers on TV for a "fantastic 4" movie that never came out. I thought I was tripping for 25 years until I discovered that it was made but not released.
@@armouredskeptic the actors were pissed. They had no idea and gave it their all for it to be used as a license place holder. "Draining their reezources" just to ruin the franchise anyways lol
A lot of the pop culture ones come down to advertising. In a lot of the trailers for ET that scene is overdubbed with audio from the other scene. For some people the trailer is more memorable than the film itself, or they just saw it 10 times more often, especially back when it was trailers on TV.
The lindbergh one got me I thought the child was never found. I even remeber an episode of the simpsons where Abe Simpson claims to be the missing Lindbergh baby.
Yeah, I checked out a book from the local library years ago that had an entire section about the mystery of who did it and why. I wasn't aware that it was apparently solved until just now.
There was an entire thing for decades of people running around claiming to be the lindberg baby. That makes little sense if they found the killer and the body.
They found a body *presumed* to be the Lindbergh baby. Due to ransom note shenanigans there are some people who believe that the baby was elsewhere. The people claiming to be the Lindbergh baby tend to claim backstories around that. With weirdly accurate infant memories.
This is my take on it as well. Why is it more plausible the large hadron collider is collapsing reality and shifting timeliness rather than you simply remembered "froot loops" as being spelled correctly?
recently got back into you bc of loneliness and a sense of former comfort. its amazing to see that you're still going and how much your content has improved!
Yes. His grammar is correct because it's reported speech and therefore people could be said to quoting his mum's original direct speech rather than forest himself.
The Mandela effect that got me scratching my noggin is the disappearance of Dolly's braces in the Bond movie Moonraker. Her character literally makes no sense without them. Oh, and C3PO had a silver leg in the original trilogy. This is something I have missed, even though I've watched the movie almost religiously all through my life
C-3PO had a silver leg in Episode 4, yeah. Must have got it replaced between the events of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. Unless it was another of the pointless changes made to subsequent versions after the special additions made George Lucas crazy. Dolly had glasses and pigtails and was tiny in Moonraker. She looked nerdy and was opposite of Jaws in size. Don't think the Albert Broccoli Bond movies got that treatment.
My mom was shook by that. It came out when she was 13 and got braces. She was devastated like "no guy will ever love meeee! 😭" because of them so her mother took her to the cinema to cheer her up, and when she saw Dolly she felt better because if she could despite braces so could my mom... And now she never had it? 🙃
@@armouredskeptic I knew I remembered that creepy opening ceremony! I hope you're more fullfilled with the new direction the channel is going. Glad to see all the new consistent content
I find the Monopoly one a great example of how these things can happen, because I knew he didn't wear one, but the idea of a stereotypical old rich guy having a monocle is so ubiquitous that the image of him with one felt right regardless.
I had wrote that it was due to the Planter's Peanut mascot, but I didn't realize before now that the style that he & Uncle Moneybags are drawn in is the same: clearline. Just like Vault Boy from Fallout or the Pep Boys, so that may add recognition falsely.
Many of these can be explained by a mistake being made by the first pop culture reference. If the reference becomes more well known than the thing itself, then we are going to collectively remember it wrong.
Like the "Luke, I am your father." Because if you quoted the actual line "No, I am your father." people wouldn't get it. But with adding Luke people can more readily associate it with Star Wars.
@@tonyb7615 I watched it a few times as a kid but it wasn't something I leaned into. TBH they kind of creeped me out as a kid. They were supposed to be bears but behaved more like sock puppets.
every mandela effect thing seems to be a case of something that nobody is really that interested in referenced by either something more interesting or something similar and thematic that overrides the original non-interest. i think its possible that people remember the mask referencing sally fields' speech more than her speech itself, and so when they want to either reference that scene from the movie, or the speech itself, they would use the mask version, as if they truly remembered sally fields' speech. speed round answers: no monocle, no curl, this neighbourhood, no black mark, fruit, no adams apple, no idea about the henry the 8th one but going by my above theory i will say yes turkey leg, no cornucopia
It was American Family Publishing!! The article i read stated how people mix it up. This is a great example of how the Mandela Effect can occur. C3PO having a silver leg in the original Star Wars still messes with me tho. :)
I had never even heard of American Family Publishing until finding out that Ed McMahon never was the "front man" for PCH. I saw decades of commercials, mailing advertisements, jokes from Johnny Carson, etc...and it was for Publishers Clearing House.
I have an Eidetic memory and I have suffered these effects. The linguistic theory makes the most sense to me. (shaping memory based on personal bias. i.e. "I wouldn't say it that way") Personal and cultural biases are very important filters through which memory is formed.
There's actually a good explanation for this one. There are commercials from the 80s and 90s that pronounced it "stein". You can actually find them online. *tried to find the commercial, can't find it now... could have sworn I'd seen it. Another weird thing i've read that the author Jan had actually changed his name from Barenstein to stain to sound less "jewish" back in the late 30s or early 40s.
You are all wrong. It was Bernstein Bears. My grandfather had a joke "Leonard Bernstein Bears - how can Jewish bears teach Christian Morals?" . If it was anything other than that someone would have called him on it. They never did. I never did. Catching each other's mistakes was kind of a family hobby and every little detail was obsessively scrutinized by everyone else. Grandpa would delight in making outrageous statements for us to dissect. Facts and logic were emphasized and your mere opinion was always pointed out as such if you didn't point it out yourself when you gave it. Seeing it spelled differently always makes me cringe.
I knew about the curl on the Ford "F" because there is an old Swedish tv-show about some greasers who called their car "Fård" since it kind of looks like it says that.
I think there's more than one rendition of the dogs playing poker painting I know I've had one Where in one is cheating, Holding cards... These is a two of spades on a chair, well I guess a simple search on the internet, what the earth is flat ?!?
@@armouredskeptic I'm going to check into that cuz I have three different versions of this painting and I remember the green visor too I think a dachshund was wearing it... The one at my disposal, this morning had five dogs and one empty chair yours had seven dogs and no bookcase... And Kellogg's would have had Thier asses sued off if they spelled fruit with the UI. Anyway, thanks Greg. You do good work. .x.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I have all three of the Waterloo series. I've spent my life compiling the Museum of the weird so maybe I have the fourth one... Maybe someone from kitchen sink press did something you should do a story about them sometime. One of their members recently passed this Mortal coil it would be a good topic and I'm sure you've heard of one of their other artists
This is literally the only one of these things that I have experienced or can't explain away. I have so many distinct memories of learning about what a cornucopia is through this logo, and many early childhood years of looking at the logo on my school uniform everyday and thinking the horn o' plenty was the 'loom'.
There must be an explanation. I imagine because we all saw the horn of plenty growing up in association with Thanksgiving, maybe we conflated the two. Most kids didn't spend a lot of time looking at the Fruit of the Loom label. But we DID look at a lot of Thanksgiving imagery year after year, and the arrangement of fruits and vegetables stuck in our mind. Maybe when we see the Fruit of the Loom label, we expect there to be a cornucopia because of the arrangement.
@@MagicalMedic, it's almost gotta be that, right? That's the best I can come up with. You see fruits and you expect them to be spilling out from a cornucopia because of the Thanksgiving imagery.
Considering not all of your videos are notified to me i have to come back from time to time to rewatch old videos and hope for new ones and now I'm finding out I missed out on a separate channel I've been here for several years and either you just made this new channel and podcast or its the Mandela effect in play.
Mandela Effect is just our brains simplifying things by using a pattern of a thing that they already recognise and adding it to newly created memories. That causes differences in details between reality and what we remember.
I like the new vids, great editing, good flow structual story telling and nice balanced between speculation and common sense. Both of them could be true to some degree! I started watching your vids long ago, and I do miss the drawn cartoon animations of 'The armored Skeptic' and the angel and demon. Even though I did see them flash by in the background, those sketches and voice acting made me really laugh alot man. I see you have improved greatly in your craft and I respect that alot. Maybe sway in some more humor with your old pals is all im saying
Dogs playing pool were always here. It's because the poker-playing dogs were so prominent, as one sees the other painting, they falsely recognize it as the other one. And it's all snowball from there
And there’s multiple examples of it across different media, all with subtle differences. I mean I saw one in TLOU2 and it wasn’t the same as the original but my mind could have easily thought the one I saw was
@@DrChaos-ys2pt that's because Dogs Playing Poker is still a copyrighted piece of art. So there's a lot of not quite lookalikes that appeal to this same feel of basic similarity.
One of the best examples But i think that's a case of people remembering the short-hand version over the cinematic version. Adding the word Luke gives the phrase context, where saying "Noni am your father" wouldn't make much sense to say on its own
@@armouredskeptic well if you say that, wouldn't that argument also extend to the "et home phone" scene, since the scene doesn't even make sense with the original wording, in my opinion one scenes reason is just as valid as the others, while if I had to choose one i would choose star wars, since the scene and example is much more iconic (imo) and there is literally a different word in the sentence, while the ET scene just has two words switched around🤔
Okay, the Publishers Clearing House got me. I remember seeing his face on the package you got to enter the contest. I can see it n my mind right now. Lol
It's mostly due to memory compressing informations in an additive way. The brain cannot delete informations. If you hear Mandela died, and then find out he's president, your brain will remember both even if they are incompatible. All you can do is contextualize memories to mitigate this defect.
As someone who lived in South Africa when Mandela was released from prison, and got to stand in the exact spot he stood when delivering his inauguration speech (the tape marks where he needed to put his feet to be centered in the camera frame were still on the ground that evening when when people were visiting the parliament grounds!) anyone claims he died in prison is deeply mistaken.
@@armouredskeptic they probably are not that familiar with South Africa , so when they heard a South African Civil rights leader died in prison, they stored it as: "a South African Civil rights leader died in prison" and when they retrieved it, they only knew the name on one so they retrieved it as "Nelson Mandela died in prison" substituting the specific for the general. makes total sense to me. I conflate similar people in my memory all the time. I think the wrong person wrote/sung a song. or the wrong actor's name was in a movie, etc. Nelson Mandela was the most famous, so people will tend to make any lesser known South African civil rights leader into him. that is my official theory! :D
I’d like to see a physical explanation for how cern smacking a few hundred particles together causes the entire world to “switch timelines”or dimensions or whatever. These people forget that the earths atmosphere is constantly bombarded by intermittent relativistic particles from deep space, example the “oh my god particle”
I remember shaggy in one scene swallowing really hard due to being scared and the adams apple was very pronounced idk if it was an artistic choice but i remember that for sure. Maybe the mush in our grape just doesnt work as well as we think lol
Most of those things are memories based on comedy parodies of events and not actual events. Many are from Jim Carrey. Likely there also was some SNL or Monty Python sketch where Mandela died in prison.
You sure you and your pals aren’t remembering other figures who died in prison or that when you asked them you asked them in a way that caused them to invent a memory?
I've got one of these. Growing up, we had an encyclopedia with a "planes of WW II" article with transparencies I liked to look at. In my memory of them, the transparencies had a dramatic backdrop of sky and clouds. When I looked back at it years later, there was no sky, only planes. This was all before the LHC. It still freaks me out remembering this.
Honestly as a kid I started to figure put that your brain just forgets stuff or misremembers stuff all the time, usually with misremembering lines from Author episodes and tv, I can't remember the specific details though, I guess it was common enough for me to be like "oh my brain made a mistake again" or something, that's how I realized our brains don't have perfect memory
@@psychegoddessoflight9358 It's just people's memory messing up. If anything human is fallable, it's their memory. Nothing to do with quantum this, universe that, or anything. Just misremembering.
@@darkfoxxbunyip Cognitive psychology is my area of expertise. I assure you, this is about far more than flawed memory. Many people fight this phenomenon tooth and nail bc it provides a profound disturbance to our concept of what reality is. The fragile ego hates having its worldview threatened, so denial, mockery and anger are common defense mechanisms. That said, there are definitely instances of flawed memory at work here, but that doesn’t explain the entire phenomenon. I studied it from 2015-17, and have several “anchor effects” myself. Most MEs don’t resonate with me personally, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t real for other individuals. I’ve spoken to people who have remarkable stories of significant changes to their personal lives, with residual evidence. Declaring something impossible simply bc it doesn’t fit in your concept of what is possible is literally anti-science. Humanity are just coming to learn how reality operates (quantum physics and the nature of consciousness), and those who refuse to continue to learn are going to struggle immensely with what amounts to a singularity for our collective knowledge and understanding of our place in the cosmos. As we approach the Great Filter, many won’t be able to come along four the ride bc they got tricked into believing “skepticism” = arrogant dismissal of all they don’t understand.
@@darkfoxxbunyip “The day science begins to study non physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than all the previous centuries of its existence.” -Nikola Tesla. We’re at the start of that decade, but a lot of people are dragging their heels because they’re afraid. Mostly afraid of finding out how very little they had known all along. It’s gonna be a massive blow to the ego for many, but Earth can’t hold back our progress just to wait on the slow kids in class.
I swear I was taught about the missing baby and it being a cold case STILL. The teacher was preparing us for college so he would give lectures and we would write notes down, so I remember writing it down too.
@@hv3314 Also you associate toons instead of tunes because of the word cartoon, looney tunes are a cartoon and both sound similar, so yeah again association happens and your memory thinks it’s toons rather than tunes
That Ed Macmahon one fucked me up hard. I can LITERALLY hear the commercial from when I was a kid. "Hi, I'm Ed Macmahon for publishers clearing house!"
I think the case with nelson Mandela is that people probably heard things like "he's going to die in prison" and shortened it to "he died in prison". As for the grieving Widow, well you'd be grieving too if your spouse went to prison
What?!?!? I remember commercials with Ed McMahon holding that check saying, “I’m Ed McMahon with the publisher’s clearing house!” Shit, I think The Simpsons even referenced him with publisher’s clearing house.
As a child my globe showed Scotland as an island, separated from England by "The Scottish Straits" But when you shift Timelines you have to let go of some things
This one actually makes me crazy. I read the books as a kid in the 70s and 80s, then I read them to my first kid. I read these books WAY MORE than many parents because he loved them so much and he had reading difficulties. Then…7 years later, I had my second child, who to my dismay, loved loved loved the books and I found myself reading them again. It was only then when child 2 reached 4-5 years-old that I noticed the books had the title of Berenstain Bears not Berenstein Bears. At this time I didn’t even know about something called the Mandela Effect, so when my son came home one day from school and told me about this wild theory he learned about in high school, I might have lost a little sleep. I can accept some of the misremembering with some of the other instances here but this one is just crazy to me. Oh and Ed McMahon was definitely associated with Publishers Clearinghouse. One thing that younger folks have to understand is that there didn’t used to be so much media coming at us all the time and while you might make the argument that the collective unconscious is responsible for misinformation, that argument isn’t solid because we also had way less to distract us from actual truth. We would stand in line and see Star Wars or ET 10 times in a theatre. You honestly think we got it all wrong? Okay go ahead and think that. Peace.
@@heidistulberg6459 EXACTLY! People, especially young people, can't understand that it's like waking up to a purple sky, and finding out that the blue sky you remember for 40 years or so was never there.
I've never been totally sold on the Mandela effect, since most examples of it seem like pretty normal stuff; my entire childhood, my dad would quote "Blondie, where's my gold?" from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly to my blond little brother. Much later, we all watched The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly together and noticed that that line is never said. I think it's super easy to misremember something like the Monopoly man having a monocle, as the "top-hat-wearing capitalist" archetype is often portrayed wearing one, or the Berenstain Bears being spelled "Berenstein Bears" because the "-stein" suffix is very common for surnames. Idk, the whole theory just seems like a whole lot of work to avoid admitting you forgot a couple movie quotes or brand logos.
The human brain does weird things with memory, I’ve always looked at the ME as a cool trick e can play on ourselves. I don’t know about you but I’ve met plenty of people who are experts at convincing themselves of pretty much anything. 😂 it’s quite entertaining
-I didn't pay that much attention in the first place/mis-saw- -I misremembered/the memory changed- -A false memory was implanted- -I was misinformed- -Information about the event was updated without my knowledge- -I filled in a gap in my knowledge with an assumption- -There were other versions- -The logo was like that, but was changed- -The product was a counterfeit- -There was a specific manufacturing error- etc. *_NOPE, THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS WRONG._* This is so easily beaten by Occam's razor, it's not even funny.
The way a lot of people word Mandela effects has bias that makes you think theyre true "remember how Mandela died in prison?" Somebody who doesnt regularly think about him will likely just agree to that statement.
Yeah, but asking it in that way can lead to people inventing memories. Factors like that are why people interviewing witnesses have to be extremely careful not to create fake memories. With Mandela you also have to factor in many people outside of South Africa might not know as much about him and if they mainly know about his anti-apartheid work then it’s not surprising to think he died much earlier then he did since they might not remember his more recent work.
I kept trying to disagree logically with this whole notion, but then we got to the CERN ceremony thing. Then I said, "fuck it, looks like I'm riding this train to the last stop," Choo choo!
In another post someone mentioned that that was the opening ceremony of the Goethard tunnel, cannot confirm I have no idea. I don't remember there being a ceremony for Cern's opening, but I do distinctly remember the doom scenarios floating around, and everyone getting nervous when they first turned the thing on.
The Fruit of the Loom one still blows my mind. I distinctly remember the horn. I remember as a kid learning for the first time what that was because I asked my parents due to the tag. Is it possible that there was a different brand that used something similar?
No the Mandela effect is morons with bad memories. they have finally figured out the problem with the Bermuda triangle but apparently you're ignorant of this. In certain conditions in the area of the Bermuda triangle they have observed downward wind forces that just precipitate all of a sudden because of the confluence of different wind patterns. these winds come straight down from high in the clouds and blast down onto the ocean at 120 mph kind of like a reverse tornado it's going down instead of up. you can imagine if you're in an airplane and all of a sudden the air that you're in starts moving downwards at 120 miles an hour you would quickly hit the water. As well, the ocean gets displaced under a 120 mph wind so if you are going along in your boat and a reverse tornado blows downwards at you it will make all the water go to the sides of you and then if the wind stops all of a sudden that water comes crashing back in. simply take a drinking straw and blow at the top of your glass of water that has no ice in it.. you will see what I'm talking about
@@Bozemanjustin The specific term for this is a "microburst", in case someone wants to google this and learn more. By the way, it's possible that microbursts also cause the weird magnetic phenomenon that screws up instruments on ships and planes (for example, your compass spinning or swerving for no reason), which is apparently at the heart of many Bermuda Triangle spooky stories. We're not completely sure yet, because microbursts have only been accepted as an actual thing that can happen recently by science, and so they are relatively unstudied when it comes to their effects/interactions with thunderstorms. Given that we've just recently found out that lighting can shoot upwards from a thundercloud, with the right atmospheric conditions, quite literally anything electrical/magnetic is possible with microbursts. The common trope with the Bermuda Triangle is that it's no more dangerous than any other triangle route traveled by air or sea, as the likelihood of being lost at sea is just as likely. However, what people fail to understand is that society tends to remember specific events, and just because the Bermuda Triangle has some weird stuff that happens sometimes and embeds itself as a mystery in human consciousness, it doesn't mean that it is necessarily more dangerous. The vast number of instances of being lost at sea in the Bermuda Triangle are mundane events. This is how probability can sometimes obscure reality and reality can sometimes be obscured by society.
@@Bozemanjustin Yeah but the problem is that the Bermuda Triangle is perfectly safe. There is literally nothing strange about it. It’s actually a major shipping lane. The only reason you know about it is because of a sci-fi magazine from the 1980s. Yeah ships go down all the time in the Bermuda Triangle. Same way they go down in the middle of the Caribbean, or Mediterranean, or South China Sea, or Indian Ocean, or the Midatlantic
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Read my reply. Your argument is actually a non argument. The argument about Bermuda Triangle was never that it's dangerous, but that weird things happen there and sometimes ships disappear from these weird things.
Seems like there are triggers we are missing that make us misremember some of the same things. Still, I had the same feeling for many of those examples. Great video man!
The Sinbad actor/comedian playing a genie in a movie is one of them. I also thought he was in a genie movie from back in the 90’s but apparently not. I even have memory of him in a cheesy outfit with the goofy pointed genie shoes. Shits trippy.
That was Shaq... you racist. Just kidding... he did play a part with a genie like costume in Sinbad the Sailor in 94', and it doesn't help that Sinbad is a famous tale from the Arabic area so it's easy to mix em up.
“Life is like a box of chocolates” I don’t think so “well it is” who said it was? “My momma said it was” sorry my memory is really bad, your mom said what? “My momma always said life was like a box of chocolates” oh thank you for clearing that up (is that still grammatically incorrect? Because it seems to work if you ask me)
even if someone said it in the past, when quoting them you'd still use the present tense if that's what they used, especially if present tense is still accurate to the statement(which it is in the case of the the Forrest Gump quote).
I think I can explain the Phone Home one. In every single advertisement that I ever saw of that movie the dialog of that scene was recut so that E.T. says "phone home" instead of "home phone." That's probably where the mistake originated from and how it spread so much.
My favorite has to be the Picard crystal one. I’ve watched TNG all my life and I don’t remember Picard having a crystal at his desk at all. Apparently it appeared in like 70 episodes
I have a confusing time with the Mandela Effect. I remember being specifically taught growing up in school that Mandela died in prison, and his wife’s speech led to apartheid ultimately being removed. However, I also remember Mandela’s actual funeral in like 2012ish, and I remember it because Obama kept flirting with the hot blonde Danish Prime Minister or something like that. Although you shared that the Mandela effect was noticed before hand, I didn’t hear of it until around 2014/2015. But it left me very confused.
I remember it being announced on the news when I was a kid that he died in jail. I asked my grandmother why it was a big deal since I had no idea who he was. She said "Means they'll probably have a civil war now.". I was a little confused when it was announced that he was released from prison. I just assumed that the report I saw as a kid was just wrong.
The only truly mysterious Mandela Effect example I can think of off the top of my head is the Chick-fil-a one. Myself and countless others have always thought it was spelled 'Chic-fil-a', but never in the restaurant's history has it ever been spelled that way. Even weirder is that the brains of people like me who thought it was spelled 'Chic' had to go out of their way to misspell an already correctly spelled word.
@@newthejsterjacob408 It was always spelled 'Chick', not 'Chic'. At no point in their history has it ever been spelled 'Chic'. And yet my entire life up until very recently I could've sworn it was spelled without the 'k'.
I bet everyone remembers shaggy having a massive adams apple, because when he gulps down food it looks like he has an adams apple when you pause it
I just figured he had a massive adams apple because he's a lanky ass stoner. Them boys like to dangle
Also because he and Scoob do the fear gulp so often
That was exactly what I thought
Not to mention animation errors that Hanana Baraba was known for at the time
I remember him swallowing nervously when there are ghosts skulking about and he's getting spooked. or did that happen in another timeline?
Et Phone home is actually what He says in the Trailer. You May have heard this just way more often because of Trailers on vhs or dvd.
I think je also says the line that way later.. amd other characters do too
Also, I think when E.T. says "home phone" Drew Barrymore says "phone home" immediately after. Probably subconsciously making us think that we misheard E.T. and then attributed the "phone home" line by Drew Barrymore to E.T.
@@ravenlockhart0925 and et says et phone home after he says it to
It feels like an alternate reality to me. I suffered a cardiac arrest in late 2019. Before I died, there was no COVID, after I woke up from a coma, there was COVID.
The E.T. one is simple. In that scene, they correct him by saying, "E.T. phone home". When Michael walks in, E.T. properly says the line. I'd bet the reason why people remember it differently is because I've seen promotional material where they take the audio from the correct line and put it over him pointing out the window. They do that all the time in film ads and trailers.
People forget how their memories are affected by other people's mistakes as well. If one person misremembers something in a conversation with another person, that other person is likely to acquire that misinformation.
Yes, that’s how the “broken telephone” game is played.
even moreso if it's a group of 3 people and 2 of them say something false, generally the third will then assume he's wrong.
holy shit dude I thought Ed Mcmahon gave out publishers clearing house checks too! I also remember the Lindbergh baby being missing too, and people claiming to be the missing child in the 80s.
To give them credit though, they do say “E.T. Phone Home” immediately after and then E.T repeats it, correcting himself. They say it many more times than the thing he says the first time
its at least well known pop-science that people remember things better if they hear it 3 or more times, they say "ET phone home" 4 or 5 times after ET says "ET home phone" once. it really isn't mysterious
You are right. That's why I hate editing. One must hear what's said right before and right after.
I swear that The Berenstein Bears was a book series as a kid but it was actually The Berenstain Bears and it totally blew my mind.
I dug for days trying to find the books I had as a kid because I remembered so clearly that it was Berenstein. The book I found was Berenstain and I feel like Ive been betrayed by 8 year old me.
I was totally looking for this specific reference, because this broke my consciousness a few years ago. For some reason I always pronounced the name 'BAY-urn-steen' Bears - despite there being a total lack of an 'e' in 'stain'. Madness.
For me it was
Bear-enstein
I swore it was Bearenstain Bears
Fuck me I guess
I remember it as Barenstein too
Grag actually addressed this in his previous video on the subject. It, like a large portion of this sort of thing, is a result of your brain streamlining an awkward design. -stein makes more sense because it's a very common genmanic surname (or part of, rather).
When they released Skyrim I was sure they'd released it several times before
Dammit this made me literally lol and get weird looks. Nice one.
The theme music is recycled from the last two entries in the Elder Scrolls. And if your talking about the Switch version, then yes it was released several times before that one.
@@dragonmaster613 whoosh
Lmaooo
@@dragonmaster613 it was a joke bro! We all remember how many times they resold that game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that the Fruit of the Loom logo never had a cornucopia at any point in its history is mind-boggling.
The Mandela effect is basically "im not wrong you're wrong" personified i mean so many people soooo CONVINCED they are NOT wrong they use alternate timeliness and universes as an explanation
It's not really though, the term itself just describes the feeling rather than any alternative reality theory.
And most of the things that are given as examples are things that multiple unconnected people remember unprompted, it's not just one person vs the world.
@@Drood. I've heard a LOT of Alternate timeline and universes thrown into this theory over the years actually
@@Drood.
I wouldn’t be mad if it was just the feeling of finding out a false memory was wrong, but there’s been a lot of people legitimately saying tits shifting into parallel universes.
@@realhumanbean7915
Yeah, but you can experience the effect without being one of those people, like a feeling of dèjá vu, they're both just terms for false memories.
I'm not saying no one says that.
@@Drood.
Oh that's reasonable, it should be defined like that.
The Fruit of the Loom really hits me. In 2008 I was a Merchandising Manager for Khol's. One of their big licensed sections is Fruit of the Loom and we had to update their advertising every two weeks. We always called it the "basket of fruit" section. Why would we ALL say that if there was no basket? I always remembered it as having a cornucopia.
It was scientific attempts of cracking down the Magic of The Fae...
To say that "it worked" it would be a bit of a misunderstanding... it was like if the cat of Schrodinger (note: he never had a cat) teleported out of the box & started biting the scientists, transforming them into radioactive zombies.
-> You DO NOT play with Pataphysics!
I not only remember Ed McMahon showing up at peoples houses with giant PCH checks, I remember Johnny Carson cracking jokes about it on the Tonight show
I could swear that's true
Ed McMahon and giant checks?
Yeah I remember that too.
Same
legit wonder if this is in an obscure movie that you all saw, or something.
I also remember an episode of scrubs (or another show like that) and Ed takes the check from JD.
I can't believe you didn't bring up the Berenstein/Berenstain Bears! That's the one that really got me. I SWEAR it was Berenstein when I was a kid...
Still loving this series BTW, thanks for the awesome uploads Skeptic!
Berenstain for certain.
As a kid that's how I learned to spell the word stain. Like when you get a stain on your clothing.
Berenstain. 😉
I am "affected " by that one, I remember stein... but also I was very young
Once someone makes an imperfect reference and it sticks, that's it. The Mask example is great since I never heard the original, but remember well the Mask one.
Thats the argument I make with the "Luke I am your father" quote.
In the movie he says "no, I am your father" but that lacks the context. If you add the word Luke, you add context without having to play out the whole scene. People say it that way on TV a few times and boom, that all anyone remembers
@@armouredskeptic Yeah, that totally makes sense.
Love your vids, btw.
If you ever want to make a video about how feminism is ruining the game industry and need inside info, I would love to share some. ;)
@@armouredskeptic Similar thing with "beam me up, Scotty". Many similar quotes, but never this exact one.
@@kshadehyaena "elementary, my dear Watson"
@@kshadehyaena "Play it again, Sam."
In the early 90's I saw several movie trailers on TV for a "fantastic 4" movie that never came out. I thought I was tripping for 25 years until I discovered that it was made but not released.
Happens more than you might think.
Yes, created just to hold the license to the intellectual property
@@armouredskeptic the actors were pissed. They had no idea and gave it their all for it to be used as a license place holder.
"Draining their reezources" just to ruin the franchise anyways lol
Guys I swear the Mandela effect is real. I swore I left my keys on the counter, not in a coat pocket.
that's not Mandela; That's jinn messing with humans
I'm certain I already left a comment, Mandela Effect !!!
I know it's real, because I don't remember sleeping with a black woman, but my wife and I have a mixed child.
@@dylanfinch2951 Ahh, kinda like Dale Gribble from king of the hill.....
@@darronpattel Yes, but my son isn't half Native American, he's half black. Maybe I am part black?
A lot of the pop culture ones come down to advertising. In a lot of the trailers for ET that scene is overdubbed with audio from the other scene. For some people the trailer is more memorable than the film itself, or they just saw it 10 times more often, especially back when it was trailers on TV.
I agree
The lindbergh one got me I thought the child was never found. I even remeber an episode of the simpsons where Abe Simpson claims to be the missing Lindbergh baby.
Yes. Never found.
Yeah, I checked out a book from the local library years ago that had an entire section about the mystery of who did it and why. I wasn't aware that it was apparently solved until just now.
I know, I remember that too!
There was an entire thing for decades of people running around claiming to be the lindberg baby. That makes little sense if they found the killer and the body.
They found a body *presumed* to be the Lindbergh baby. Due to ransom note shenanigans there are some people who believe that the baby was elsewhere. The people claiming to be the Lindbergh baby tend to claim backstories around that. With weirdly accurate infant memories.
“Would an American say that Bill Clinton wasn’t the President?”
Greg, you’d be surprised what Americans would do and say to fit their own agenda
Canadians really don’t get us
The petrodollar is a good example of this 💰
America has not had a president for the past four years, and will not have one for the coming four years depending on who you ask.
Right? Wouldn't they? Isn't that what this subject is about? Lol
"I'm always right, the fuckin timeline will be wrong before I am!"
Right... I hope that's not a problem :p
This is my take on it as well. Why is it more plausible the large hadron collider is collapsing reality and shifting timeliness rather than you simply remembered "froot loops" as being spelled correctly?
recently got back into you bc of loneliness and a sense of former comfort. its amazing to see that you're still going and how much your content has improved!
Blame Tom Hanks' awful, fake Southern accent for people misquoting "life was like a box of chocolates" rather than awkward grammar.
People are correcting his poor grammar in their heads.
Mum said... isn't it reported speech and then using WAS totally correct? Honest question.
Yes. His grammar is correct because it's reported speech and therefore people could be said to quoting his mum's original direct speech rather than forest himself.
@@TheOneAndOnlyME It's still poor grammar. The fact that it's reported merely shifts the blame.
The Mandela effect that got me scratching my noggin is the disappearance of Dolly's braces in the Bond movie Moonraker. Her character literally makes no sense without them.
Oh, and C3PO had a silver leg in the original trilogy. This is something I have missed, even though I've watched the movie almost religiously all through my life
C-3PO had a silver leg in Episode 4, yeah. Must have got it replaced between the events of A New Hope and The Empire Strikes Back. Unless it was another of the pointless changes made to subsequent versions after the special additions made George Lucas crazy. Dolly had glasses and pigtails and was tiny in Moonraker. She looked nerdy and was opposite of Jaws in size. Don't think the Albert Broccoli Bond movies got that treatment.
My mom was shook by that. It came out when she was 13 and got braces. She was devastated like "no guy will ever love meeee! 😭" because of them so her mother took her to the cinema to cheer her up, and when she saw Dolly she felt better because if she could despite braces so could my mom... And now she never had it? 🙃
Skeptics shortish Uploads about all the mysterious phenomenon is truly addictive and enjoyable!
I remember that in the painting, the dogs were playing Doruk.
Mmhmm
Thanks bud, I really appreciate that
@@armouredskeptic Very Welcome! They are informative and enjoyable!
That CERN footage is from finishing of a tunnel they drug miles through a mountain for I think a high-speed railway
Thats right, the Goddard Tunnel, the longest tunnel on earth
@@armouredskeptic I knew I remembered that creepy opening ceremony! I hope you're more fullfilled with the new direction the channel is going. Glad to see all the new consistent content
I find the Monopoly one a great example of how these things can happen, because I knew he didn't wear one, but the idea of a stereotypical old rich guy having a monocle is so ubiquitous that the image of him with one felt right regardless.
The monocle is synonymous with fat cats with bus mustaches
That raises the question: why DIDN'T he wear a monocle?
It's because of the Planters Peanut guy.
I had wrote that it was due to the Planter's Peanut mascot, but I didn't realize before now that the style that he & Uncle Moneybags are drawn in is the same: clearline. Just like Vault Boy from Fallout or the Pep Boys, so that may add recognition falsely.
That was a really personal "Hey buddy"
similar to how Sseth's "Hey, hey people, Sseth here..." sometimes sounds like a threat.
Holy fuck Verlisify himself. Never thought to see ya on a channel like this
@@solomeaquinn4708 based
Many of these can be explained by a mistake being made by the first pop culture reference. If the reference becomes more well known than the thing itself, then we are going to collectively remember it wrong.
Pop culture seems to have the greatest influence on people's memories - says a lot about how people perceive culture in general
Like the "Luke, I am your father." Because if you quoted the actual line "No, I am your father." people wouldn't get it. But with adding Luke people can more readily associate it with Star Wars.
@@Adjuni u are not a berenstein guy. if u didnt grow up with that, u'll never know
@@tonyb7615 I watched it a few times as a kid but it wasn't something I leaned into. TBH they kind of creeped me out as a kid. They were supposed to be bears but behaved more like sock puppets.
@@Adjuni "watched"
dude. they're books.
every mandela effect thing seems to be a case of something that nobody is really that interested in referenced by either something more interesting or something similar and thematic that overrides the original non-interest. i think its possible that people remember the mask referencing sally fields' speech more than her speech itself, and so when they want to either reference that scene from the movie, or the speech itself, they would use the mask version, as if they truly remembered sally fields' speech.
speed round answers: no monocle, no curl, this neighbourhood, no black mark, fruit, no adams apple, no idea about the henry the 8th one but going by my above theory i will say yes turkey leg, no cornucopia
Five right?
That “Hey Buddy” at the beginning of every video brightens my day every time
I'm glad, thanks bud
It's been a while since I stopped in.
Good to see you in high spirits, Greg.
This happened to me with American dad. I could have sworn it was 100% canceled, but it wasn't. THOSE DOGS DID HAVE VISORS WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
Thank you for being so concise in your investigations! Keep them coming!
I even remember Ed McMahon being on the envelopes you'd get in the mall from Publishers Clearinghouse!! That's crazy!!!
I've seen the image - is it possible that was a different organization?
It was American Family Publishing!! The article i read stated how people mix it up. This is a great example of how the Mandela Effect can occur. C3PO having a silver leg in the original Star Wars still messes with me tho. :)
I had never even heard of American Family Publishing until finding out that Ed McMahon never was the "front man" for PCH. I saw decades of commercials, mailing advertisements, jokes from Johnny Carson, etc...and it was for Publishers Clearing House.
13:39 The Morgan Freeman effect. Another thought provoking episode, good stuff.
Plot twist: King Henry is actually Alex Jones
"They're turnin' the royal bloodline gay!"
No, Alex Jones is Bill Hicks.
Lobsters are psychic.
@@Hi_Its_LP that's still one of my favorite clips. "Scorpions are *dangerous*, a Lobster is just tasty" "...lobsters are psychic"
"Is this another Mandela effect or is my memory just terrible?" Same thing.
I have an Eidetic memory and I have suffered these effects. The linguistic theory makes the most sense to me. (shaping memory based on personal bias. i.e. "I wouldn't say it that way") Personal and cultural biases are very important filters through which memory is formed.
Barenstein Bears was my childhood
I remember using it as an example of why "i before e except after c" was wrong. I was told it did not apply to names.
There's actually a good explanation for this one. There are commercials from the 80s and 90s that pronounced it "stein". You can actually find them online.
*tried to find the commercial, can't find it now... could have sworn I'd seen it. Another weird thing i've read that the author Jan had actually changed his name from Barenstein to stain to sound less "jewish" back in the late 30s or early 40s.
@Peter Rabbit k. 😆
You are all wrong. It was Bernstein Bears. My grandfather had a joke "Leonard Bernstein Bears - how can Jewish bears teach Christian Morals?" . If it was anything other than that someone would have called him on it. They never did. I never did. Catching each other's mistakes was kind of a family hobby and every little detail was obsessively scrutinized by everyone else. Grandpa would delight in making outrageous statements for us to dissect. Facts and logic were emphasized and your mere opinion was always pointed out as such if you didn't point it out yourself when you gave it. Seeing it spelled differently always makes me cringe.
@Peter Rabbit If it was Berenstain Bears when I was a kid I'd have definitely laughed at the name, I was quite a giggly child. Bear Stains pffft!!
This video made me realise the reason I am so sure he did have a monocle is probably because I did play the Dutch version. Thanks!
I knew about the curl on the Ford "F" because there is an old Swedish tv-show about some greasers who called their car "Fård" since it kind of looks like it says that.
Ed McMahon passing out the big publishers clearing house check is even referenced in Heathers!
It's referenced so many times in multiple shows, even Rosanne
I absolutely remember that, too. Crazy.
The fruit of the loom one is wild
In defense of ET every other character says "ET phone home" like 100 times right after.
True
Also I'm pretty sure "ET phone home" was in the trailer.
I think there's more than one rendition of the dogs playing poker painting I know I've had one
Where in one is cheating,
Holding cards...
These is a two of spades on a chair, well I guess a simple search on the internet, what the earth is flat ?!?
I thought so too, but no version includes a visor
@@armouredskeptic I'm going to check into that cuz I have three different versions of this painting and I remember the green visor too I think a dachshund was wearing it...
The one at my disposal, this morning had five dogs and one empty chair yours had seven dogs and no bookcase...
And Kellogg's would have had
Thier asses sued off if they spelled fruit with the UI. Anyway, thanks Greg. You do good work. .x.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I have all three of the Waterloo series.
I've spent my life compiling the Museum of the weird so maybe I have the fourth one...
Maybe someone from kitchen sink press did something you should do a story about them sometime.
One of their members recently passed this Mortal coil it would be a good topic and I'm sure you've heard of one of their other artists
Fruit of the Loom and their non-existent cornucopia. It feels like gaslighting.
This is literally the only one of these things that I have experienced or can't explain away. I have so many distinct memories of learning about what a cornucopia is through this logo, and many early childhood years of looking at the logo on my school uniform everyday and thinking the horn o' plenty was the 'loom'.
There must be an explanation. I imagine because we all saw the horn of plenty growing up in association with Thanksgiving, maybe we conflated the two. Most kids didn't spend a lot of time looking at the Fruit of the Loom label. But we DID look at a lot of Thanksgiving imagery year after year, and the arrangement of fruits and vegetables stuck in our mind. Maybe when we see the Fruit of the Loom label, we expect there to be a cornucopia because of the arrangement.
I can picture the fucking logo in my head but it's not there?!?
@@MagicalMedic, it's almost gotta be that, right? That's the best I can come up with. You see fruits and you expect them to be spilling out from a cornucopia because of the Thanksgiving imagery.
I don't remember a cornucopia, but I do remember it being a bunch of fruit.
Considering not all of your videos are notified to me i have to come back from time to time to rewatch old videos and hope for new ones and now I'm finding out I missed out on a separate channel I've been here for several years and either you just made this new channel and podcast or its the Mandela effect in play.
Mandela Effect is just our brains simplifying things by using a pattern of a thing that they already recognise and adding it to newly created memories. That causes differences in details between reality and what we remember.
Big, you’re ignoring how unreliable memory can be...
I like the new vids, great editing, good flow structual story telling and nice balanced between speculation and common sense. Both of them could be true to some degree!
I started watching your vids long ago, and I do miss the drawn cartoon animations of 'The armored Skeptic' and the angel and demon. Even though I did see them flash by in the background, those sketches and voice acting made me really laugh alot man. I see you have improved greatly in your craft and I respect that alot. Maybe sway in some more humor with your old pals is all im saying
Dogs playing pool were always here. It's because the poker-playing dogs were so prominent, as one sees the other painting, they falsely recognize it as the other one. And it's all snowball from there
And there’s multiple examples of it across different media, all with subtle differences. I mean I saw one in TLOU2 and it wasn’t the same as the original but my mind could have easily thought the one I saw was
@@DrChaos-ys2pt that's because Dogs Playing Poker is still a copyrighted piece of art. So there's a lot of not quite lookalikes that appeal to this same feel of basic similarity.
I swear the dog with a green visor was a beagle, I was actually kinda shocked when I saw the real one
"Luke, i am your father" > " No, I am you father"
One of the best examples
But i think that's a case of people remembering the short-hand version over the cinematic version.
Adding the word Luke gives the phrase context, where saying "Noni am your father" wouldn't make much sense to say on its own
@@armouredskeptic well if you say that, wouldn't that argument also extend to the "et home phone" scene, since the scene doesn't even make sense with the original wording, in my opinion one scenes reason is just as valid as the others, while if I had to choose one i would choose star wars, since the scene and example is much more iconic (imo) and there is literally a different word in the sentence, while the ET scene just has two words switched around🤔
@@telmah5721 ET says "phone home" in the movie trailer though. Which people probably remember because trailers are.. well, more memorable.
Okay, the Publishers Clearing House got me. I remember seeing his face on the package you got to enter the contest. I can see it n my mind right now. Lol
I remember watching ET and it distinctly saying “Home Phone” it stuck out to me because everyone apparently misquotes it
My very first video of yours I watched was your Mandela Effect one. It should be interesting to have that recalled.
It's mostly due to memory compressing informations in an additive way. The brain cannot delete informations. If you hear Mandela died, and then find out he's president, your brain will remember both even if they are incompatible. All you can do is contextualize memories to mitigate this defect.
"I thought you were dead?!"
"Yeah, I get that a lot."
(Gold star to anyone who gets that obscure movie reference.)
Awesome movie!!! Take that JD Salinger!
I love Ellen Ripley. Was I close?
As someone who lived in South Africa when Mandela was released from prison, and got to stand in the exact spot he stood when delivering his inauguration speech (the tape marks where he needed to put his feet to be centered in the camera frame were still on the ground that evening when when people were visiting the parliament grounds!) anyone claims he died in prison is deeply mistaken.
she was probably thinking of Steven Biko.
I wonder then how so many Americans could have heard otherwise
@@armouredskeptic they probably are not that familiar with South Africa , so when they heard a South African Civil rights leader died in prison, they stored it as: "a South African Civil rights leader died in prison" and when they retrieved it, they only knew the name on one so they retrieved it as "Nelson Mandela died in prison" substituting the specific for the general.
makes total sense to me. I conflate similar people in my memory all the time. I think the wrong person wrote/sung a song. or the wrong actor's name was in a movie, etc.
Nelson Mandela was the most famous, so people will tend to make any lesser known South African civil rights leader into him.
that is my official theory!
:D
Don't forget the iconic "Luke, I am your father." when actually it's "No, I am your father"
I’d like to see a physical explanation for how cern smacking a few hundred particles together causes the entire world to “switch timelines”or dimensions or whatever. These people forget that the earths atmosphere is constantly bombarded by intermittent relativistic particles from deep space, example the “oh my god particle”
I don't think atmospheric physics is a good comparison to what they do at the LHC.
@@dirtypure2023 No, it's a really good comparison actually.
@@kevlarandchrome So particles are colliding at 3.5 teraelectronvolts in the atmosphere? Nope, don't think so lol.
I remember shaggy in one scene swallowing really hard due to being scared and the adams apple was very pronounced idk if it was an artistic choice but i remember that for sure. Maybe the mush in our grape just doesnt work as well as we think lol
i wouldn't be surprised if in some episodes he has an adam's apple and in some he dont. depending on who drew him at the time.
Hmm.. maybe it appeared on occasion?
Most of those things are memories based on comedy parodies of events and not actual events. Many are from Jim Carrey. Likely there also was some SNL or Monty Python sketch where Mandela died in prison.
There was a movie in 1987 Cry Freedom where a peaceful activist in South Africa fought against apartheid and died in prison.
Kinda like “I can see Russia from my house.” from Sarah Palin being by way of Tina Fey’s version of her.
You sure you and your pals aren’t remembering other figures who died in prison or that when you asked them you asked them in a way that caused them to invent a memory?
@@Mamacita82 same. being told 'what you were taught in school is a misremembering' is so tiresome.
I've got one of these. Growing up, we had an encyclopedia with a "planes of WW II" article with transparencies I liked to look at. In my memory of them, the transparencies had a dramatic backdrop of sky and clouds. When I looked back at it years later, there was no sky, only planes. This was all before the LHC. It still freaks me out remembering this.
Honestly as a kid I started to figure put that your brain just forgets stuff or misremembers stuff all the time, usually with misremembering lines from Author episodes and tv, I can't remember the specific details though, I guess it was common enough for me to be like "oh my brain made a mistake again" or something, that's how I realized our brains don't have perfect memory
I love that Skeptic says “Hey, buddy” at the start of an episode, it makes me feel like I’m talking to a bud about supernatural or weird stuff
It has the same energy as hanging out with your older half brother.
Ah, yes, the Mandela effect... Because 'they' actually changing history is so much more likely than people misremembering things.
Right I hate how these people want everything to be supernatural
It’s not human beings changing anything, lol. Nor is it inherently supernatural. It’s just the quantum nature of reality coming to the surface.
@@psychegoddessoflight9358 It's just people's memory messing up. If anything human is fallable, it's their memory. Nothing to do with quantum this, universe that, or anything. Just misremembering.
@@darkfoxxbunyip Cognitive psychology is my area of expertise. I assure you, this is about far more than flawed memory. Many people fight this phenomenon tooth and nail bc it provides a profound disturbance to our concept of what reality is. The fragile ego hates having its worldview threatened, so denial, mockery and anger are common defense mechanisms.
That said, there are definitely instances of flawed memory at work here, but that doesn’t explain the entire phenomenon. I studied it from 2015-17, and have several “anchor effects” myself. Most MEs don’t resonate with me personally, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t real for other individuals. I’ve spoken to people who have remarkable stories of significant changes to their personal lives, with residual evidence.
Declaring something impossible simply bc it doesn’t fit in your concept of what is possible is literally anti-science. Humanity are just coming to learn how reality operates (quantum physics and the nature of consciousness), and those who refuse to continue to learn are going to struggle immensely with what amounts to a singularity for our collective knowledge and understanding of our place in the cosmos.
As we approach the Great Filter, many won’t be able to come along four the ride bc they got tricked into believing “skepticism” = arrogant dismissal of all they don’t understand.
@@darkfoxxbunyip “The day science begins to study non physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than all the previous centuries of its existence.” -Nikola Tesla. We’re at the start of that decade, but a lot of people are dragging their heels because they’re afraid. Mostly afraid of finding out how very little they had known all along. It’s gonna be a massive blow to the ego for many, but Earth can’t hold back our progress just to wait on the slow kids in class.
I swear I was taught about the missing baby and it being a cold case STILL. The teacher was preparing us for college so he would give lectures and we would write notes down, so I remember writing it down too.
Mandela effect people: THEY CHANGED THE CEREAL NAME!
Fruit-Loops := Has been named Froot Loops since 1964. I was not even born then how do i remember FRUIT Loop,s or Looney TOONS ?
@@hv3314
Because the human brain would associate more easily to the word fruit than the abstract and weirdly written froot
@@hv3314
Also you associate toons instead of tunes because of the word cartoon, looney tunes are a cartoon and both sound similar, so yeah again association happens and your memory thinks it’s toons rather than tunes
@@realhumanbean7915 Nah it’s definitely fruit
@@chiangkaishrek5123 nope, it’s froot. Fruit is just so much simpler to remember literally everyone remembers it as such.
That Ed Macmahon one fucked me up hard. I can LITERALLY hear the commercial from when I was a kid. "Hi, I'm Ed Macmahon for publishers clearing house!"
I think the case with nelson Mandela is that people probably heard things like "he's going to die in prison" and shortened it to "he died in prison". As for the grieving Widow, well you'd be grieving too if your spouse went to prison
Or that when he actually did die, the date of his death and when he was in prison got the old switcharoo in the brain of masses of people.
What?!?!? I remember commercials with Ed McMahon holding that check saying, “I’m Ed McMahon with the publisher’s clearing house!” Shit, I think The Simpsons even referenced him with publisher’s clearing house.
As a child my globe showed Scotland as an island, separated from England by "The Scottish Straits"
But when you shift Timelines you have to let go of some things
i remember seeing a globe like that in a shop in tokyo!
@@fandral92 that make 5 of us. I'll give you another one. Same Globe had new Zealand a bit too far north, and too far west..
Isn't that just... Ireland?
@@greatskytrollantidrama4473 i may have a picture of that globe, ill try and find it
@@ChoiceSnarf and there it is...
That's the response I've always gotten.
No sir, Ireland was more or less where its supposed to be.
I always assume I'm misrememebering things. But the classic Mandela Effect that's always got me was the Berentein-Berenstain Bears one.
Berenstain. But probably should have been Bearenstain. Because... Bears.
This one actually makes me crazy. I read the books as a kid in the 70s and 80s, then I read them to my first kid. I read these books WAY MORE than many parents because he loved them so much and he had reading difficulties. Then…7 years later, I had my second child, who to my dismay, loved loved loved the books and I found myself reading them again. It was only then when child 2 reached 4-5 years-old that I noticed the books had the title of Berenstain Bears not Berenstein Bears. At this time I didn’t even know about something called the Mandela Effect, so when my son came home one day from school and told me about this wild theory he learned about in high school, I might have lost a little sleep. I can accept some of the misremembering with some of the other instances here but this one is just crazy to me. Oh and Ed McMahon was definitely associated with Publishers Clearinghouse. One thing that younger folks have to understand is that there didn’t used to be so much media coming at us all the time and while you might make the argument that the collective unconscious is responsible for misinformation, that argument isn’t solid because we also had way less to distract us from actual truth. We would stand in line and see Star Wars or ET 10 times in a theatre. You honestly think we got it all wrong? Okay go ahead and think that. Peace.
@@heidistulberg6459 EXACTLY! People, especially young people, can't understand that it's like waking up to a purple sky, and finding out that the blue sky you remember for 40 years or so was never there.
I've never been totally sold on the Mandela effect, since most examples of it seem like pretty normal stuff; my entire childhood, my dad would quote "Blondie, where's my gold?" from The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly to my blond little brother. Much later, we all watched The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly together and noticed that that line is never said. I think it's super easy to misremember something like the Monopoly man having a monocle, as the "top-hat-wearing capitalist" archetype is often portrayed wearing one, or the Berenstain Bears being spelled "Berenstein Bears" because the "-stein" suffix is very common for surnames. Idk, the whole theory just seems like a whole lot of work to avoid admitting you forgot a couple movie quotes or brand logos.
The human brain does weird things with memory, I’ve always looked at the ME as a cool trick e can play on ourselves. I don’t know about you but I’ve met plenty of people who are experts at convincing themselves of pretty much anything. 😂 it’s quite entertaining
Okay, the Ed McMahon one is really fucking with my brain right now.
-I didn't pay that much attention in the first place/mis-saw-
-I misremembered/the memory changed-
-A false memory was implanted-
-I was misinformed-
-Information about the event was updated without my knowledge-
-I filled in a gap in my knowledge with an assumption-
-There were other versions-
-The logo was like that, but was changed-
-The product was a counterfeit-
-There was a specific manufacturing error-
etc.
*_NOPE, THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE IS WRONG._*
This is so easily beaten by Occam's razor, it's not even funny.
I'm happy you agree... the universe is wrong
But it feels so right.
Every video I can find says that's the opening ceremony for the Gotthard Base Tunnel.
The way a lot of people word Mandela effects has bias that makes you think theyre true "remember how Mandela died in prison?" Somebody who doesnt regularly think about him will likely just agree to that statement.
Yeah, but asking it in that way can lead to people inventing memories. Factors like that are why people interviewing witnesses have to be extremely careful not to create fake memories. With Mandela you also have to factor in many people outside of South Africa might not know as much about him and if they mainly know about his anti-apartheid work then it’s not surprising to think he died much earlier then he did since they might not remember his more recent work.
11:18 being dutch I feel really relieved my memory was correct after all
I kept trying to disagree logically with this whole notion, but then we got to the CERN ceremony thing. Then I said, "fuck it, looks like I'm riding this train to the last stop," Choo choo!
All aboard!
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In another post someone mentioned that that was the opening ceremony of the Goethard tunnel, cannot confirm I have no idea.
I don't remember there being a ceremony for Cern's opening, but I do distinctly remember the doom scenarios floating around, and everyone getting nervous when they first turned the thing on.
The Fruit of the Loom one still blows my mind. I distinctly remember the horn. I remember as a kid learning for the first time what that was because I asked my parents due to the tag. Is it possible that there was a different brand that used something similar?
The Mandela Effect is on par with the Bermuda Triangle for dumbest mystery
literally.
No the Mandela effect is morons with bad memories.
they have finally figured out the problem with the Bermuda triangle but apparently you're ignorant of this.
In certain conditions in the area of the Bermuda triangle they have observed downward wind forces that just precipitate all of a sudden because of the confluence of different wind patterns.
these winds come straight down from high in the clouds and blast down onto the ocean at 120 mph kind of like a reverse tornado it's going down instead of up.
you can imagine if you're in an airplane and all of a sudden the air that you're in starts moving downwards at 120 miles an hour you would quickly hit the water.
As well, the ocean gets displaced under a 120 mph wind so if you are going along in your boat and a reverse tornado blows downwards at you it will make all the water go to the sides of you and then if the wind stops all of a sudden that water comes crashing back in.
simply take a drinking straw and blow at the top of your glass of water that has no ice in it.. you will see what I'm talking about
@@Bozemanjustin The specific term for this is a "microburst", in case someone wants to google this and learn more. By the way, it's possible that microbursts also cause the weird magnetic phenomenon that screws up instruments on ships and planes (for example, your compass spinning or swerving for no reason), which is apparently at the heart of many Bermuda Triangle spooky stories. We're not completely sure yet, because microbursts have only been accepted as an actual thing that can happen recently by science, and so they are relatively unstudied when it comes to their effects/interactions with thunderstorms. Given that we've just recently found out that lighting can shoot upwards from a thundercloud, with the right atmospheric conditions, quite literally anything electrical/magnetic is possible with microbursts.
The common trope with the Bermuda Triangle is that it's no more dangerous than any other triangle route traveled by air or sea, as the likelihood of being lost at sea is just as likely. However, what people fail to understand is that society tends to remember specific events, and just because the Bermuda Triangle has some weird stuff that happens sometimes and embeds itself as a mystery in human consciousness, it doesn't mean that it is necessarily more dangerous. The vast number of instances of being lost at sea in the Bermuda Triangle are mundane events. This is how probability can sometimes obscure reality and reality can sometimes be obscured by society.
@@Bozemanjustin Yeah but the problem is that the Bermuda Triangle is perfectly safe. There is literally nothing strange about it. It’s actually a major shipping lane.
The only reason you know about it is because of a sci-fi magazine from the 1980s. Yeah ships go down all the time in the Bermuda Triangle. Same way they go down in the middle of the Caribbean, or Mediterranean, or South China Sea, or Indian Ocean, or the Midatlantic
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Read my reply. Your argument is actually a non argument. The argument about Bermuda Triangle was never that it's dangerous, but that weird things happen there and sometimes ships disappear from these weird things.
Seems like there are triggers we are missing that make us misremember some of the same things. Still, I had the same feeling for many of those examples. Great video man!
I remember you doing a video on the Mandela Effect back in 2016. Or is that also the Mandela Effect? :^)
Haha I did, that was a straight debunk
Thank you for actually explaining how this works. I hate it when people bring it up and just leave it open ended.
The Sinbad actor/comedian playing a genie in a movie is one of them. I also thought he was in a genie movie from back in the 90’s but apparently not. I even have memory of him in a cheesy outfit with the goofy pointed genie shoes. Shits trippy.
That was Shaq... you racist.
Just kidding... he did play a part with a genie like costume in Sinbad the Sailor in 94', and it doesn't help that Sinbad is a famous tale from the Arabic area so it's easy to mix em up.
Sinbad also just dead ass dressed like a genie in the early 90s. Go back and check out some of his non movie appearances. J
I vividly remember that’s movie, fuck anybody who says it’s a false memory 🖕🏻🖕🏻
I swear to God I saw Shazaam on TV. It was a made for TV rip off of kazaam.
I don't have that memory, bit I am surprised at how many people remember that movje
7:15 - Well, there's your green visor and front-facing bulldog.
On a painting of dogs playing pool...
“Life is like a box of chocolates” I don’t think so “well it is” who said it was? “My momma said it was” sorry my memory is really bad, your mom said what? “My momma always said life was like a box of chocolates” oh thank you for clearing that up (is that still grammatically incorrect? Because it seems to work if you ask me)
even if someone said it in the past, when quoting them you'd still use the present tense if that's what they used, especially if present tense is still accurate to the statement(which it is in the case of the the Forrest Gump quote).
I think I can explain the Phone Home one. In every single advertisement that I ever saw of that movie the dialog of that scene was recut so that E.T. says "phone home" instead of "home phone." That's probably where the mistake originated from and how it spread so much.
"Like a box of candies, was my wife..."
Master Bilbo The Destroyer
My favorite has to be the Picard crystal one. I’ve watched TNG all my life and I don’t remember Picard having a crystal at his desk at all. Apparently it appeared in like 70 episodes
I can see how you missed it though- it's such a subtle detail, you brain didn't notice
I have a confusing time with the Mandela Effect. I remember being specifically taught growing up in school that Mandela died in prison, and his wife’s speech led to apartheid ultimately being removed. However, I also remember Mandela’s actual funeral in like 2012ish, and I remember it because Obama kept flirting with the hot blonde Danish Prime Minister or something like that. Although you shared that the Mandela effect was noticed before hand, I didn’t hear of it until around 2014/2015. But it left me very confused.
I absolutely LOVE your videos! 💕🤩💕
I remember it being announced on the news when I was a kid that he died in jail. I asked my grandmother why it was a big deal since I had no idea who he was. She said "Means they'll probably have a civil war now.". I was a little confused when it was announced that he was released from prison. I just assumed that the report I saw as a kid was just wrong.
Another good idea too that I’ve never heard, wonder how much fake obituaries have to do with it since even today we still run into that issue.
I kind of have to admire the self assurance in this - "My memory is perfect, it's the world that changed!"
The only truly mysterious Mandela Effect example I can think of off the top of my head is the Chick-fil-a one. Myself and countless others have always thought it was spelled 'Chic-fil-a', but never in the restaurant's history has it ever been spelled that way. Even weirder is that the brains of people like me who thought it was spelled 'Chic' had to go out of their way to misspell an already correctly spelled word.
Wait it isn’t spelled Chic, you’re joking man it’s been that way...right?
@@newthejsterjacob408 It was always spelled 'Chick', not 'Chic'. At no point in their history has it ever been spelled 'Chic'. And yet my entire life up until very recently I could've sworn it was spelled without the 'k'.
Some of us recall it as Chik-fil-a. Which would make their classic promo for “EAT MORE CHIKIN” make a lot more logical sense.
Great video! If you ever feel like doing a UFO topic again, you should check out the Cash-Landrum incident. Such a fascinating story!
Does the Mandela Effect explain Breath of the Wild's placement in the Zelda timeline?