Fade really depends on your team, unfortunately. At least in my experiences, low elo players are too afraid of dying and don't capitalize off of her aggressive kit.
8:55 As a viper main if you want to climb with Viper you have to play with a double smoke comp, because as solo controller she's not good at all anymore, her smokes dont last long enough to even plant the spike sometimes
I wish they could decrease or even delete Astra's cooldown to use a star after placing it because that's the main reason she's unplayable atm. If only we could see an Astra meta instead of a Neon one...
@@AnmolShrestha-bt6ms im on the other side. I hate playing against Cypher because my teammates never know when to rotate, like they will keep trying to enter Split B and die because they didn't anticipate the Cypher trips and one-ways 😭
I see why people trash on chamber a lot but I think he’s really underrated especially with his recent tp buff and headhunter buffs. For example if you just buy 4 headhunter shots and light shields on first round you’ll just dominate everyone
The last time i seen my self rank up a shit ton was when i instalocked yoru a shit ton but since i started to fill ive been doing dog shit should i go back to instalocking yoru?
Dont Reyna and Chamber come down to the same point? Why Are They so far apart? Yes, Chamber might need some sort of team setup, but that doesnt bring him down THAT far
After 9.10 cypher nerf id put deadlock above cypher and kj, i think shes the most oppressive and best sentinel atm, shes better at holding site on defence and shes better on attack than any other sentinel and id personally say she's better than most of the initiators and i would rather have no initiators and a deadlock most of the time (unless no flashes). I also dont get why you would put kj above her, i understand cypher because hes still debatably strong, theyre on par with eachother i guess, but kj?
Kj is good for lurking since she easily gains info about where enemies are which means she learns enemies' routes of retakes, timings of retakes and e. t. c. + she has gamechanging ult which can be comboed with line-ups for mollies Unfortunately she shines best when other 4 are competent enough to deal with pre-retake bunch of enemies, otherwise there is no meaning for lurk
I was just about to say how it doesn’t make sense we are in b tier and none of the duelists have come up till now and then here’s yoru after brim, I think yoru goes in C, he is not any better than kayo in ranked
omen just got nerfed, + clove can literally enter a site, if u know how to play clove every ult round its a win, its not just reviving, its pushing the entire opposite team so you dont kill anyone, that makes ppl leave the site usually so u dont even have to fight for it, and clove never loses value bc u can just put regenerative smokes while dead, i think omen its better if u have a team + strategies but clove its just overall WAY better for solo queue or duo queue, u can kill someone with 2 body shots with Q, then press C, rush kill another one, etc, its just mindless W keying
@@jrrmiashes2019 yeah, Clove is good for duelists and best fill as controller. They are like reyna, shines especially when you have decent aim, but heavily relies on the team unlike Omen. Omen, despite recent robbery by riot, is very strong character for someone, who is looking for agent to one trick. Clove can be stronger for entry only on ult rounds and can't compare to Omen in entrying overall (who probably is best entry agent after Jett and Raze). Omen has best flash in the game, smoke-flash-tp outplays make him the most versatile agent in the game. He is also arguably the best lurk controller, best solo controller on lots of maps. Clove can make you strong fast, but skill ceiling on that agent isn't very high, mastering Omen takes a lot of time, but once you put hours, you will get more control over your games. Average Omen player is meh because of that complexity and people filling, decent Omen players know that this nerf wasn't huge for his true strength. I might, however, be biased by opinion or Radiant coach and by not watching good Clove players, same as you might not face/play with good Omen players.
Ain't gonna like like from bronze to gold i always insta lock reyna when i was in plat till asc I've learn to fill and play everyone but sentinels but i end up hard stuck asc for 5 act until recently i insta lock reyna everyround in asc 2 and i win like 14matches and only lose 2 mvping most of my games making the first season i hit immortal
KAYO AS A C IS CRIMINAL HES THE BEST INITIATOR ON MAPS WHERE SOVA LACKS?!!?? HE HAS THE BEST FLASHES IN THE GAME AND A HIS KNIFE IS BROKEN!!!! YALL GOTTA STOP GLAZING SKYE HER FLAHS IS SO MID BRO ITS SO EASY TO DODGE UNLIKE KAYOS WHOSE IF YOU THROW RIGHT IS UNDODGEABLE
@@mobjj123_games6Honestly Neon is just way too overtuned for any other duelist to shine at the moment. Reyna coordinates much better with Neon as a second duelist (in ranked)
he forgot the character with the highest win% in ranked... lol... at least in half my matches the guys don't even realize they're being steamrolled so hard due to a clove
33:30 Bro that 180 no scope was crazy
Fade really depends on your team, unfortunately. At least in my experiences, low elo players are too afraid of dying and don't capitalize off of her aggressive kit.
8:55 As a viper main if you want to climb with Viper you have to play with a double smoke comp, because as solo controller she's not good at all anymore, her smokes dont last long enough to even plant the spike sometimes
Yup at least for heven and sunset
@IamAK1487 Pearl too
As a viper main also, i agree
the editing makes me think my screen has dust 😭
Yeah, me too
I wish they could decrease or even delete Astra's cooldown to use a star after placing it because that's the main reason she's unplayable atm. If only we could see an Astra meta instead of a Neon one...
love when clove was mentioned
? They were mentioned?
I main Astra and after the buff to 5 stars I expected at least high c so I sort of got slapped in the face when I saw her as the worst 😢
I’ve played her twice it was not fun 😭
I climbed from bronze 2 to dia 2 with cypher in a span of 5 months He def deserves S Tier!!
i love playing cypher just to get rotated every damn round ;-;
@@AnmolShrestha-bt6ms im on the other side. I hate playing against Cypher because my teammates never know when to rotate, like they will keep trying to enter Split B and die because they didn't anticipate the Cypher trips and one-ways 😭
@@cmlyn77well he is nerfed af now
@@AnmolShrestha-bt6mspredict where rhey gon come and place trips deep so they dont know ur there
He is in S-tier 31:40
I see why people trash on chamber a lot but I think he’s really underrated especially with his recent tp buff and headhunter buffs. For example if you just buy 4 headhunter shots and light shields on first round you’ll just dominate everyone
breach helped me climb from gold to asc HE IS THE BEST INITIATOR FOR ME!
Ngl, would put vyse in G tier. Feels like a 4v5 ability wise if she is in the game
Fr the wall got overhyped so much
Brim and kj are by far the best post plant agents. So i believe brim should be higher. Lineups go crazy
One does not see very many line-ups in the lower ranks
@deepfry89 i am b2 and have lineups for all maps...
@@wiebje3050 ive been plat with brim only and didnt have very many. usually ppl dont bother studying every single maps lineups unless a high elo otp.
His stim beacon is a water ability slot tho it changes nothing if he had it or not so that’s why I think he’s not that good
I do think that cypher and kj are both pretty equal especially on ice box there’s basically no difference which one you play you’ll preform equally
The last time i seen my self rank up a shit ton was when i instalocked yoru a shit ton but since i started to fill ive been doing dog shit should i go back to instalocking yoru?
Yea learn a few agents and just instalock em
Dont Reyna and Chamber come down to the same point? Why Are They so far apart? Yes, Chamber might need some sort of team setup, but that doesnt bring him down THAT far
Let bro cook 🔥
so bad tbh
Me personally, I think yoru has the highest skill ceiling in the game, but god damn is it hard to reach it
I would put kayo c or b, and breach a, breach is really easy to play effectively, and duo q is free
If you got the aim , and you don't want to entry first, play chamber, I climbed from silver to ascendant with chamber mostly.
i was legit terrible at this game, no idea what i was doing, almost got immortal purely from picking pre-nerfed chamber
After 9.10 cypher nerf id put deadlock above cypher and kj, i think shes the most oppressive and best sentinel atm, shes better at holding site on defence and shes better on attack than any other sentinel and id personally say she's better than most of the initiators and i would rather have no initiators and a deadlock most of the time (unless no flashes). I also dont get why you would put kj above her, i understand cypher because hes still debatably strong, theyre on par with eachother i guess, but kj?
Kj is good for lurking since she easily gains info about where enemies are which means she learns enemies' routes of retakes, timings of retakes and e. t. c. + she has gamechanging ult which can be comboed with line-ups for mollies
Unfortunately she shines best when other 4 are competent enough to deal with pre-retake bunch of enemies, otherwise there is no meaning for lurk
I feel like kayo is underrated. Like I be flashing for myself and getting free kills
bro just didn’t want to add any clove clips
HUHH ASTRA D??
I was just about to say how it doesn’t make sense we are in b tier and none of the duelists have come up till now and then here’s yoru after brim, I think yoru goes in C, he is not any better than kayo in ranked
this dude fr put gekko as F in the thumbnail for him to be S tier in the end
Ye he Always does that
I'd change clove with omen. You can do way more plays with omen, I find clove weak, rather play Reyna for better heal
omen just got nerfed, + clove can literally enter a site, if u know how to play clove every ult round its a win, its not just reviving, its pushing the entire opposite team so you dont kill anyone, that makes ppl leave the site usually so u dont even have to fight for it, and clove never loses value bc u can just put regenerative smokes while dead, i think omen its better if u have a team + strategies but clove its just overall WAY better for solo queue or duo queue, u can kill someone with 2 body shots with Q, then press C, rush kill another one, etc, its just mindless W keying
Because of the one way nerfs clove is just better now in my opinion even tho I loved omen I’ll Probobly okay clove instead now
@@jrrmiashes2019 yeah, Clove is good for duelists and best fill as controller. They are like reyna, shines especially when you have decent aim, but heavily relies on the team unlike Omen. Omen, despite recent robbery by riot, is very strong character for someone, who is looking for agent to one trick. Clove can be stronger for entry only on ult rounds and can't compare to Omen in entrying overall (who probably is best entry agent after Jett and Raze). Omen has best flash in the game, smoke-flash-tp outplays make him the most versatile agent in the game. He is also arguably the best lurk controller, best solo controller on lots of maps. Clove can make you strong fast, but skill ceiling on that agent isn't very high, mastering Omen takes a lot of time, but once you put hours, you will get more control over your games. Average Omen player is meh because of that complexity and people filling, decent Omen players know that this nerf wasn't huge for his true strength. I might, however, be biased by opinion or Radiant coach and by not watching good Clove players, same as you might not face/play with good Omen players.
Ain't gonna like like from bronze to gold i always insta lock reyna when i was in plat till asc I've learn to fill and play everyone but sentinels but i end up hard stuck asc for 5 act until recently i insta lock reyna everyround in asc 2 and i win like 14matches and only lose 2 mvping most of my games making the first season i hit immortal
worst or best base on personal profession
I dropped 24 kills with astra on sunset for my rankup to silver 1
At that rank you can just play in your aim and win
@@anurag1175 agreed (I'm still around Gold and this is true)
You can top frag every game in silver 1 without even using abilities
KAYO AS A C IS CRIMINAL HES THE BEST INITIATOR ON MAPS WHERE SOVA LACKS?!!?? HE HAS THE BEST FLASHES IN THE GAME AND A HIS KNIFE IS BROKEN!!!! YALL GOTTA STOP GLAZING SKYE HER FLAHS IS SO MID BRO ITS SO EASY TO DODGE UNLIKE KAYOS WHOSE IF YOU THROW RIGHT IS UNDODGEABLE
Exactly
cypher my goat
I swr this guy has like 2 more accounts
Love your videos
Imo harbor is a but underrated, i went from bronze 1 to silver 3 in 1 month using harbor
oil up lil vro
real
Adolescent detected
for me cypher is f tier
this map pool heavily favours astra and with the 5 stars it’s so good
I’ve been a Phoenix main since act 6 and I finally decided to switch over to gecko now this happens
What happened ?
@@An2i2 Gekko got nerfed and Pheonox got buffed hard
@@mobjj123_games6Honestly Neon is just way too overtuned for any other duelist to shine at the moment. Reyna coordinates much better with Neon as a second duelist (in ranked)
astra being in D tier is crazy T-T 😭
truuu, and still lower than harbor is criminal
It really isnt, Astra is a high skill ceiling agent.
Ngl u play clove ur trolling
Never Let bro cook Again💀
Astra at last.. You know why
why would u want to climb rank with astra when u have clove tho?
Bro how many times you've seen astra being picked? Almost never, and that is for a reason
@@All_Might371Thats because they dont want the headache.
You forgot Clove
he forgot the character with the highest win% in ranked... lol... at least in half my matches the guys don't even realize they're being steamrolled so hard due to a clove
clove is literally in the video
erm cypher in iron is op cuz everyone runs into ur trips
WATCH LUDILLU COME ON HES S+ TIER
hi
first
I AM FIRST
Stop reading the comments and finish the video...
ye but i skipped through the video because i cant find fade
bro clove is missing ,
shit tier list btw ngl
he did include her, 30:15