Change your career and job… it’s easier than it looks and you can get way better life very quickly by merely not working shit blue collar jobs where the employer doesn’t see you as anything of value because they think you need them and not the other way around. All you need to do is put a few months of additional attention towards finding, choosing, and getting ready for your next career… most don’t require diplomas or have ways to get in easy. I got into the tech industry by becoming a software quality assurance tester, learned how to code in about a year, now am a developer making $70K per year from home (no diploma, high school drop out with a GED) and I could do better if I put in a little effort in finding a better salary but I enjoy what I have already so I don’t feel compelled to hustle beyond because I’m also now a futures day trader and am well on my way to full financial freedom and success. Of course, all of this requires good brains and to be a grown up, because with comfort, full benefits, and good pay for little effort comes the expectation of high society manners and etiquette. One can’t be a hillbilly in a tech company but one can drive a forklift with said mentality. So it’s not for everyone but I can guarantee that you’re most likely wasting your human life’s potential driving that shit day in day out and could do like a hundred times better while also loving what you do so it doesn’t even feel like work… I get tired from work by the end of the week but it doesn’t feel like work and I get to do whatever I want, I can even travel to another country for months while working from my laptop… oh and I never ask for a raise, they simply give it to me every half year and it’s usually a couple-few thousand each time… took 2 years from being a broke absolute loser and drug addict to where I am now, borderline full blown “successful”.
I miss the easy days of operating vs being in the office. Which is crazy because i used to wish to be in the office! It’s a common misconception that management has it easy, especially these days having to idiot proof everything.
Had a job tell me they wanted to promote me to salary. Their great exclamation was "You'll still get paid for 40hrs even if you don't work it!!" My response was "When am I ever going to work less then 40hrs?"
Lol right. Just left my last job after HR tried to "explain" that salary BS to me. While I'm refusing to work 60 hours a week for the pay of 40. They have the gall to say: "well you get paid for 40 even if you don't work it".
@@RKNGL I don't know the details of what you did for a job, but there is certain criteria that has to be met for an employer can switch someone to salary. If you didn't meet that criteria you should have reported that.
"i wanna do my job, get my check go home. i don't care about this company" is the most correct way of think about a companies, they don't care about you and in a lot cases actively hate their employees
It's partially not their fault. The larger a corporation gets, the bigger the disconnect from individual employees. Additionally, even small businesses rotate employees very frequently due to them wanting to do something else / having the job be something they didn't expect / personal reasons, etc. This makes it increasingly hard for them to have genuine care &/ personal investment into people overtime.
but isnt that how employees also think tho. ideally youd want everyone in your company to care more about running things well so everyone could invest and benefit
Absolutely true. Once you hit ~56 hours in a week, your overtime drops awful close to straight time. Past 60-something, it's even less, I stopped working more than 60 after that first 10 hour sunday added something like $50 to what the previous 60-hour check got me, so less than minimum wage. And no, this was seven years back, not back in the 70's. "You'll get it back at tax time" means all the pay you didn't see was sent straight into uncle sam's pocket as an interest-free loan; you worked to put your money in someone else's wallet.
@@Rb889I don't know how it worlks in the USA because i'm in Québec but I guess it's the same. If so, deductions on your paycheck are based on what annual salary you expect to have. As you know, specially in construction jobs, it's pretty much impossible to be perfectly on. So the government will either have to reimburse you...or it's you who who will have to give them back. Most peoples prefer to receive a check from the governement but it's up tp each person.
had a job where i helped onboard 2 new guys and presented an hour long presentation in front of 50 people and helped develop workflows for the younger staff... however when it came time for the mid-year bonus I was told "all of that stuff you did was great, but bonuses are based off of billable work instead of general office" i quit that job 2 weeks later and found one that respects me and gives me bonuses for going above and beyond
Same happened to a couple of us where I worked a few years back. Our top performers that would be pushed to stay late to help out pretty often were suddenly salaried management with nothing but a pay "raise" (cut) and new title. Lots of moaning and groaning about losing money for being good at our jobs so I shot out on our group chat something along the lines of "I take this as a great opportunity. Remember everyone, this is management experience for our resumes. Just so long as that paperwork has your official titles as "manager" then you can apply to places with that." About 6 of 8 of our hardest workers left for other jobs within the month. I don't know about everyone else but when I asked about feedback in the interview they said that having management on my resume was a big plus lol
That was my very first thought. This is great for the employee! Take that management title, work the bare minimum until they're getting ready to fire you, then take that title to somewhere that'll pay you for that title
this channel actually does a great job of highlighting illegal work situations. If something like this happens to you, there's a lot of legal recourse. get everything in writing.
@@NornSanctuaryW31TK421From wikipedia: "The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has provided a 3-part test to determine whether or not a constructive discharge has occurred: (1) a reasonable person in the complainant's position would have found the working conditions intolerable; (2) conduct that constituted discrimination against the complainant created the intolerable working conditions; and (3) the complainant's involuntary resignation resulted from the intolerable working conditions." I don't think this passes the second bullet point but I'm not sure.
Bring a voice recorder into every meeting. Record every interaction with management. In writing or not it's their own words and the NLRB would love to hear that.
This is the kind of thing that was fought over a couple generations ago. There are specified job responsibilities that can be classified under "salary" rules (actually managing the work of other humans would fall under that; managing a forklift definitely doesn't) Everybody whose work doesn't fit under those "salary" aka "exempt" guidelines has to be paid hourly, paid in compliance with overtime pay laws, and all that.
Sadly that's still assault. That being said, I once had a service advisor at my dealership use one of my tools without permission. I went to the service manager and calmly told him if it happened again I was going to beat his ass. And get fired. And not care. Not a threat, literally an "if this, then that" fact.
Ya. I worked for a construction company that likes to make some guys salary as “managers.” Then they had them doing labor work on sites. Labor board had a field day with them.
Yep, normal, been there done that. If you are in charge of your project and you decide to send the helpers home that were provided you are doing it yourself.
My union gives the company grief if any union work gets done by people who aren't union members, (management or any other non union person) but in effect managers can do it as long as they don't get caught. It is very much against the union contract for managers to do a laborer's job
"so if I don't work more off the clock, I'm fired?" "that's correct..." "Cool, can I get that in writing?" Then sit back and enjoy your all-expense-paid vacation to lawyersville
This If you're salaried non exempt you're entitled to overtime for anything over 40 hours. This is a federal law. It blows my mind how few people comprehend this.
I like how in every single one of these you look like you are sweating in your boots because you're trying to cheat out a bunch of forklift certified men out of their overtime.
Very illegal, first complaint the Dept. of Labor attorneys would come down on this company like a buzzard after road kill. Company would be fined, employees compensated for all their overtime.
Couple of fun facts. 1. That's actually Illegal 2. Salary positions by law must pay at LEAST 37,500 yearly to be considered a salary position. 3. Salary positions are based on a 40 hour work week... not a 50, a 50 hour work week salary position must account for those additional 10 hours with a pay bump ABOVE the minimum 4. If the salary position that is based on a 50 hour work week continuously goes over 50 (as in a pattern of 55, 60, 70, etc + hours) they MUST pay you Additionally on top of the salary amount. Call employers out on their Bullshit... Do not be afraid to report your employer. Staying quiet helps no one but the employer.
@@lucysmith4242Find a company that will treat you better mate. Feel free to warn your company first that you're leaving if you don't start getting compensated fairly
Fun fact, I showed this to most of my coworkers in the IT field and none of them have had this problem. Those given salaries have almost never worked overtime and those who refused the salaries to stay hourly weren't punished at all. If you had a bad experience like this, boohoo. But don't make generalizations that just aren't true. Plenty of IT jobs are managed correctly, you just haven't looked hard enough.
@@Nilruin “Fun Fact: I have an anecdotal experience which means you didn’t look hard enough, despite the many reports and statements of people in the IT field complaining about being overworked”
My stepfather was made Foreman of the job, and the smartest thing he did was not take a salary like the rest of then. He makes almost a third more than they do now 😂
@@holykonchu7250 i am willing to work as civil engineer in USA in construction usually 8 hours of work is not enough. so we work 50 or 60 per week. do they in USA pay the engineer for the 20 overtime hours? or usually you work 12 hours per day and you only given fixed salary or for 8 hours???? thank you
@@holykonchu7250depends on what is not illegal to work overtime and not get paid. you i am frustrated i thought i will make a lot of money as civil engineer because they work more than 8 hours every day but if you want me to work more hours and just plain for 8 hours i will gain nothing. civil engineer basic salary is consider low salary compare to other majors.
Years ago while driving an airport shuttle van, the company decided to put us on salary. I told them that if I'm paid on a basis of 50 hours a week, I'm working 50 hours. So when a day ran long and I worked two extra hours, I called off two hours early the next day to comp. The owners did NOT like that, but I held firm. It wasn't long before they dropped the salary nonsense.
Salaried employees are entitled to overtime for anything over 40 hours a week. You were getting scammed already for working 50 hours without overtime pay. LEARN THE GOD DAMN LAW
The only way a salary pay structure is going to work is if when you put in more than the first 50 hours/week you get overtime pay equal to time and a half, or more.
News Team 6 reporting... "The entire corporate management team of XYZ corporation were killed overnight in their homes. Workers with the terrorist organization 'Fug You, PAY ME!' took credit for what they called 'back pay'."
It's why people are "silently quitting". You work your hours and that's it. We need to bring back unions and support others even if we are not in them.
Also need union reps who aren't in the company's pocket/pet project. Seen it for two years in the shipyard, heard more from the decades before that. Blue collars deserve better
Unions used to be good for the people, now a days not so much. The union is for the top teamsters or w/e they call them and their pet political pals. Unions are too corrupt these days. It's bad enough I'm forced to pay the government for "protection and freedom" I'll skip on paying a group of people dues for them to maybe work in my interest.
@@urbanteck Back in 2009 we voted to go on strike AT&T CWA 6370, had plenty of money in our strike fund and our reps stabbed us in the back. We wanted to know why they caved so quick when we knew there was no way the managers could go out in the field and do our jobs.
I had the opposite happen to me in a corporate job, I took a salary position and HR missed it and paid me hourly. Manager was shaking when he handed me that check. It was monthly.
Directors at my job frequently say "you're in charge" to the part timers who work the reception desk on their way out, and our customers think they're joking. Nope, they're dead serious because we're open on weekends with no management in sight every weekend. Part timers working full time hours with borderline minimum wage, and next to no benefits. Never work harder than the wage demands. Know your worth.
"The shifts are 12 hours apart" i felt that as a paramedic the best part is when you get a serious call 5 minutes before shift change and that 12 hours apart turns into 10 or 7-8 if its a police standby. Once i got off probation i took the first 24/48 schedule i could get
You definitely need to a video on the guy on crew that freaks out over losing overtime because they can’t afford it because of their new truck and boat and side by side 😂
man i feel this. i got bumped into management before. and they gave me my new salary and on paper it looked good. after a couple of months i realized the math and i was losing money because of no OT and i was now getting called at home and on weekends. i resigned and went back to hourly after that.
I worked for a company doing a hotel remodel as a laborer they found at a temp agency. They paid $100 a day regardless of what we worked and had us going 7 days a week. I stayed because I needed money and figured it was better than going back to the food industry since I had no other marketable skill. I hated that job and let the bosses know it. I would argue with bosses when I needed time to pick up my future wife or when I needed a sick day, and lost it on one supervisor over his attitude toward me, but I worked hard as hell and the rest of the guys working there were barely sentient chimps. It paid off, though, because I did land a job with the electrical contractor who came in for some of the remodel and still work for that company these 9 years later. Sometimes you've got to do some shit, but always work hard and search for your way out if your company is screwing you.
Issue is the volume of "screw you over" jobs who expect you to stick around for a career vastly outnumber the number of people who need to...let me check my notes...eat, pay rent, and get sick
You should open your own contracting business that's where the real money is at instead of wasting away your years working for someone work for yourself!
@@furrycircuitry2378 i'm good. I like the electrical company I work for. They pay me nice, I have a good work life balance and am never really stressed. If anything I would like to move in and be a part owner of the company since I like them, I like their customers and I like the way they treat all of us and would like to keep that spirit going. Opening my own business sounds miserable and stressful, more so than trying to move up with who I have now.
@@furrycircuitry2378 It fucking sucks that this is how our economy is now. I don't want to start my own business. I just want to work 9 to 5 and that's it. Why do I have to start my own business to be treated like a human being?
@@hillbillydeluxe27 Me too. AI is going to be a problem unless people start stepping up and putting restrictions on it. Good on the WGA for standing up for themselves.
@@Nilruin my son says that the AI that exists now is not real IA. It’s a close facsimile. He says we’re still a ways off from RAI (real artificial intelligence). But he said when it comes, look out.
Reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago when I was working at a place in Texas called Tatex. I was working for the company through a temp agency that paid me and the other temps $7.50 an hour while charging Tatex $21 an hour for each one of us. Well after I had been at Tatex for about four months, they brought all of the temps in for a meeting and told us they had some great news. They were going to hire us all on directly and we would no longer be temps. Cool! So that means a pay increase, right? Nope. We were still going to get $7.50 an hour. But the way they played it up was that they were really doing us a huge favor when really all they wanted to do was save money.
Worked for a security company that did this to me and I was to young to recognize I was getting taken advantage of. I moved up to district supervisor and got the pay for it...all was good, then my boss got arrested for impersonating a cop...so they gave me his job title as well and I was told just until they find someone to cover it. "Its trial by fire and if you make it youll have a spot up here with us" ....I ended up getting fired because they worked me 5 days straight because if people called out or no call no showed I had to cover that spot or find someone to work it and with sites 150 miles spread across louisianna well...thats why I ended up staying awake...working one shift, then driving a few hours to another and so on plus my office duties when everything was covered. day 6 I crashed cause I finally had a day where everything was good to go. I slept for 2 days and woke up to my phone with hundreds of missed calls and voicemails with the last few telling me to report to the office monday and bring the phone, gun and keys. XD
" *You're trying to make us work more and take more of our money, and trick us into feeling good about it... the government already does that enough* " You've got the entire Middle Class' vote for President man
I'm a A-class truck driver. I found a position that was semi local, on a truck with a sleeper.... They wanted to pay a driver salary... With a "Millionaire Retirement Policy" I no called, no showed before I even gave an answer.
Dude, I want to thank you because I thought about getting a construction job and watching your videos made me realize that I don't want to go through any of that shit.
I spent many years in middle management. Most of the time, I found myself working extra hours doing the work of the hourly folks. I wasn't really a "manager". Instead; I was a sort of "flex employee" who could fill in wherever needed. I actually got pretty good at the hourly jobs. After a while, that was most of my role. When I finally put in my 2-week notice, my manager was noticeably pissed. She wouldn't speak to me for the entire 2 weeks. On my last day, she called me into her office and admitted she hated the job and the company. She said she didn't speak to me because she knew I was retiring and would never have to work another day in my life. I politely thanked her, handed over my keys and walked out the back door, never to return.
@@PGspeed88 I agree with you. BUT (you knew that was coming), getting the attention of the national labor review board or OSHA or any government agency is nearly impossible unless you bring in some kind of class action suit and that leads to hiring lawyers and lots of time. With an established labor organization such as the teamsters you can use their existing legal infrastructure. And yes, I'm a union carpenter out of NYC and yes I work with my tools, I'm not a union representative. I do concrete.
There is no way this could happen because the labor board will fall hard on them because being salaried doesn't mean they can make you work all the hours they want. If you are paid for 50 hours and they make it impossible through their rules to work 50 hours the labor board will come down hard on you. Saw this happen when I worked for a place where their rules made it impossible for some managers who were getting paid for 50 hours to actually work 50 hours and they were were working 60-70 hours a week and the TWC in Texas hit them with fines and made them pay all the extra hours in overtime to their managers.
That's funny because I can almost guarantee that here in Georgia the labor board would most certainly let this happen. They are particularly fangless here.
@@yoduh8681 Thats why I hate it when people don't want a strong government. I want a strong IRS to punish the wealthy evading taxes, I want a strong labor board to punish wage theft and shit like this.
This scenario is an exact representation of the company I used to work for. And the management of that company was dumbfounded why employee turnover was extreme. Great video.
In auto union, got offered to sign up for management, I'm curious to see what is up. I go to the meeting and listen. Get to the Q&A segment. Bring up the real situation of a area sabotaging producing but not in obvious ways to be in trouble. What's in place to protect me from fired over it. HR people were confused and said that doesn't happen. Me and others laugh and walk out. Find out, ALL hr has never worked on floor.
As sad is this is, this is a real tactic that companies use. Make people managers, put them on salary, don't pay overtime. Companies can save a lot of money doing this. They can also get themselves in a world of trouble because now they get paid whether they're at work or not.
Lol, and I'll 'manage' my way over to a lawyer when we conclude this meeting. I worked for a company who tried to make everyone salary, but they got to pay back pay and interest after the court dust settled.
Had a buddy working at a small CAD shop that everyone in the workplace was salary. He kept track of his hours for 3 years and sued, or threatened to sue the company for lost wages. The company backed down, paid him his compensation and put him back on hourly wages.
Watching these skits have shown me how lucky i am to be blessed with the employment i have. Regular ot. Quarterly bonuses. Competent management. An understandable system of logistics and production. Above average market pay. Affordable benefits. I wish most folks could enjoy this little slice of sanity.
Id be that's how you wanna play because either i call the labor board or you pay 100000k salary with a 25000k sign on bonus, and well see how fast overtie comes back
My work place did something like this two years ago. They stopped quarterly bonuses and gave us all "raises". Most people got nothing, the average was .15 if ya did. Per year we got about 2.4k a year in bonuses. The raises, if you got one at all, got you about 300 a year. Pay cuts dressed up as raises coupled with increased quotas. Mfers.
My last job did the same thing. We would get 1-2k (I can't remember for sure) a year in bonuses besides our Christmas bonus. Suddenly they said they wanted to make bonuses based on work performance rather than "guaranteed", and we were getting a raise to compensate us. The idea being that if we did well on a big job (construction field) then we could get a cut of the profits. They claimed that we could actually get more bonus pay than we used to get if we did a good job. Admittedly, the raise wasn't terrible (I don't recall what it was) but it didn't make up for the bonuses. After a year, and many big/good jobs, not one of us got a bonus. I finally complained in a meeting with my boss and supervisor and was flat out told "Well you haven't done a good enough job to earn one". Now I'll be honest and say that I wasn't the best out of my coworkers (one in particular was VERY good at his job and had over 20 years with that company and even he didn't get a bonus) but I always gave my best and did extra to make sure things were done right. I was even promoted to a "field supervisor" fairly early in my time there since I did a good job. After being told I wouldn't be getting a bonus then, or probably ever, I took a shot and asked for a raise and was scoffed at and blatantly told no. I just walked out of that meeting without a word. Less than 4 months later, for that and other reasons, I left that job. Management was very bad in SO many ways and even when we pointed it out in an effort to help them (constructive criticism) they somehow managed to get worse. In my resignation letter, which I sent to all the board members of the company and my supervisors, I called them out for their bad management and disrespect towards their employees. They haven't changed a bit though since I left (I still talk to old coworkers) and they are going to keep driving people away (I know of two others that left within a month of me for the same or similar reasons). The ship is taking on water but since they're on the top deck they are oblivious.
It isn't particularly nice, but bonuses are under the complete discretion of the employer. They can decide to alter or stop them at any point, which is what it sounded like they decided to do and tried to reduce outrage with the joke "raises". I've learned that a bonus should never be relied upon or viewed as anything other than an ethereal carrot, since it has so much flexibility to screw the employee. Isn't two years ago pandemic time, when there was a great deal of uncertainty and normal economic processes were disrupted?
@@jasony8480 The bonuses were probably part of the employment conditions at the time of hiring. Going back on that later could be seen as breach of contract, in fact it very literally could be.
Guys I think we have people out there who enjoy spending their entire lives working. It’s the same people who try and condemn you when ya say you want more freedom to be with family etc. “Lazy” I believe is what they would say to you. Because ya won’t slave your life away and love it. Not sure about yall but I call these people ROBOTS. Why automate businesses we have dull empty shelled human being robots already! And the crazy part is they love only having about 10 years (retirement) of actual LIFE. How in the hell does anybody take pride in that? The next man does not actually care how you think work is life. They also do not care about your accomplishments in work, they are their own person why’s your story important? Something like that. So working your life away for what? Seriously? Some of you guys work jobs I never have and I just wholeheartedly believe you should make more and get to be home MORE! Unless you have a job that requires the time away from home like a truck driver or something major, why not desire to be home why choose work over home? What it looks like. Single and no kids? Ok, that’s valid. Get the money! Even then you still need time to LIVE. I can’t understand people, when your life is about to be over and you have that thought (I never traveled, never did anything but work) how the hell do you expect anybody that didn’t benefit from your working to see it as a good thing? Dude never lived. That’s what I’d say at your funeral.
This is obviously not legal but you should know there'd be a silver lining to this. If they put manager in your job title you can leverage that to move jobs to another company.
Goodwill out of Flagstaff Arizona did this. I needed a job desperately and that's exactly what they did to me. I had to work minimum 50 hours a week which took my"salary" to around the minimum freaking wage. I was the facilities manager of several buildings mind you. Then, I had to work overtime and get this 50 hours was not overtime but then I had to work overtime but I wasn't allowed to look at it as overtime either. And once every two or three weeks I worked 60 to 70+ hours that week. I made around three dollars an hour BELOW minimum wage one week. I tried speaking to the CEO Dave, and the two other directors Jordan and Andrew. All they would say is I can't look at the way I did. See they went to school and they thought since I didn't have a college education I was stupid. They actually told me how stupid all the employees were especially the Indians off the reservation that worked there. They were too stupid to have back to back days off. Yeah they didn't use the word stupid they said not intelligent enough but that means stupid. I kid you not. And it was legal. And I had to keep that job for damn near a year and a half before I could find a better one. Flagstaff is in Coconino County which is a liberal county. which means poor pay finally got the hell out of there
Uuuh, liberal does not always mean poor pay. Look at Texas and a minimum wage of what? $3 an hour? I live in a liberal city and we upped the minimum to $15. Granted, it should be $20 but hey.. we're trying. And yes, not all liberal polices are good. Anyone that thinks either side is 100% good is utterly unaware and suffering from Stolkholm Sydrome.
I worked for a branch of satchmos/mother road in flagstaff too. Was made a manager and was working 50-70 hours a week on salary because the owner didn’t want to do his job
This almost feels like when management opted for us to be called "Team Members" instead of employees or staff. Honestly it's the moment they cut overtime pay where you tell them - not ask *tell* - to put it in writing
Exactly the art of looking busy. I do tree work for a power company and we set all our safety shit out and pole saws when we need to catch a break. With everyone in hard hard it’s very hard to tell driving by
Lowe’s did this a back in the 90s and ended up paying out so much in fines and back pay that it almost bankrupted the company. They tried to say that their employees were hourly plus salary. This was to pay their employees a wage equal to a hourly employee but get the hours of a salary employee.
I worked for a place like this, everyone (literally everyone) was a manager in training and paid salary. They scheduled you from 9am to 9pm and gave you one day off. You also had one day a week you could start early or leave early (that was start at noon or leave at 6p).
I’ve been management and salary for most of my career. It does suck when you’re working way more than 40 hours a week. But I’ve been lucky with my past couple jobs where leadership understands there may be long days, and then you can cut out or shorten other days. The funny part is when you shorten your day hourly employees like to make remarks about it. I always respond with, “ we can put you on salary right here, right now based on your 40 hours a week.” That shuts them up real quick.
yeah, we have production program where im at now, if we finish early we can go home early with full day of pay. only thing is, they keep adding to the daily demands and everybody just kills themselves to come up short of expectations anyways. there is no going home early for the day's pay. its just what they do to get you to move your butt a lil faster. often finding a con in companies. the last company i was at asked me if i wanted additional training in worse areas, i asked, does it come with a pay increase or any incentives? no they answered, and i answered, no i don't want the additional training in worse areas.
“A logic analyzer costs $10,000. Overtime for engineers is free”. Tom West, Soul of a New Machine. 60-80 work weeks without extra pay has been the norm for decades.
We all have to eat and that's why we work. But I don't want to fall in this trap where I spend all my money on nonsense because I understand how horrible working conditions are.i want to be able to retire early and if I go on vacations, buy a new truck, I'll be working til I'm 80
My favorite is when companies restructure and make up titles. One company combined 3 roles into 1 and they were no longer Branch Managers, but Branch Operations Leader. Got paid less for it too. I bet they still can't figure out why they are burning through them every 2 years.
I worked for a drilling and blasting contractor for thirty five years, they repeatedly tried to put me on salary, I refused. After about five years of asking I said sure let's talk. They wanted a number, averaged my last three years income,added thirty five percent,slid it across the table and I thought he was going to choke LOL. He said we can't afford that, I said you can't afford not to. End of the day they ponied up.
Boss- What are you doing? Worker- Waiting for my replacement Boss- well put you phone away and get back to work we're behind schedule! Worker- ohh... Sorry sir. but I am salaried for only 50 hours and that capped out 15 minutes ago so... Boss- Dont give me that! If you don't get back on that forklift right now your fired! Worker- So you are forcing me to work with no pay? Boss- There's no need to get all dramatic about this. you need to keep working until your relieved by your next shift Worker- Sorry, no can do. anything over 50 hours a week is wage theft and we cant have that. So as "Manager" of this forklift, I decided that this is the best way to handle the situation and avoid legal complications :)
"I just want to drive my damn forklift, grab my check and go home." God I feel this very..single..day.
I'm bout to go hop on that MF rn😂😂😂
Change your career and job… it’s easier than it looks and you can get way better life very quickly by merely not working shit blue collar jobs where the employer doesn’t see you as anything of value because they think you need them and not the other way around. All you need to do is put a few months of additional attention towards finding, choosing, and getting ready for your next career… most don’t require diplomas or have ways to get in easy. I got into the tech industry by becoming a software quality assurance tester, learned how to code in about a year, now am a developer making $70K per year from home (no diploma, high school drop out with a GED) and I could do better if I put in a little effort in finding a better salary but I enjoy what I have already so I don’t feel compelled to hustle beyond because I’m also now a futures day trader and am well on my way to full financial freedom and success. Of course, all of this requires good brains and to be a grown up, because with comfort, full benefits, and good pay for little effort comes the expectation of high society manners and etiquette. One can’t be a hillbilly in a tech company but one can drive a forklift with said mentality. So it’s not for everyone but I can guarantee that you’re most likely wasting your human life’s potential driving that shit day in day out and could do like a hundred times better while also loving what you do so it doesn’t even feel like work… I get tired from work by the end of the week but it doesn’t feel like work and I get to do whatever I want, I can even travel to another country for months while working from my laptop… oh and I never ask for a raise, they simply give it to me every half year and it’s usually a couple-few thousand each time… took 2 years from being a broke absolute loser and drug addict to where I am now, borderline full blown “successful”.
I miss the easy days of operating vs being in the office. Which is crazy because i used to wish to be in the office! It’s a common misconception that management has it easy, especially these days having to idiot proof everything.
Everyday 🥲
@@jeremyoakland6732 I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain how the square peg goes in the square hole.
Had a job tell me they wanted to promote me to salary. Their great exclamation was "You'll still get paid for 40hrs even if you don't work it!!" My response was "When am I ever going to work less then 40hrs?"
Lol right. Just left my last job after HR tried to "explain" that salary BS to me. While I'm refusing to work 60 hours a week for the pay of 40. They have the gall to say: "well you get paid for 40 even if you don't work it".
Why would anyone work here?
@@RKNGL I don't know the details of what you did for a job, but there is certain criteria that has to be met for an employer can switch someone to salary. If you didn't meet that criteria you should have reported that.
@@RKNGL just make sure you get straight time and you 80k+ a year next time.
Exactly
"i wanna do my job, get my check go home. i don't care about this company" is the most correct way of think about a companies, they don't care about you and in a lot cases actively hate their employees
Boy is that the truth!
💯
It's partially not their fault. The larger a corporation gets, the bigger the disconnect from individual employees. Additionally, even small businesses rotate employees very frequently due to them wanting to do something else / having the job be something they didn't expect / personal reasons, etc. This makes it increasingly hard for them to have genuine care &/ personal investment into people overtime.
but isnt that how employees also think tho. ideally youd want everyone in your company to care more about running things well so everyone could invest and benefit
People "only showing up to get a check" wondering why they've topped out at $15 per hour.
“The more we mother fucking work the less we make.” No truer words ever said.
Absolutely true. Once you hit ~56 hours in a week, your overtime drops awful close to straight time. Past 60-something, it's even less, I stopped working more than 60 after that first 10 hour sunday added something like $50 to what the previous 60-hour check got me, so less than minimum wage. And no, this was seven years back, not back in the 70's.
"You'll get it back at tax time" means all the pay you didn't see was sent straight into uncle sam's pocket as an interest-free loan; you worked to put your money in someone else's wallet.
@@Rb889I don't know how it worlks in the USA because i'm in Québec but I guess it's the same. If so, deductions on your paycheck are based on what annual salary you expect to have. As you know, specially in construction jobs, it's pretty much impossible to be perfectly on. So the government will either have to reimburse you...or it's you who who will have to give them back. Most peoples prefer to receive a check from the governement but it's up tp each person.
just pull yourself up by your bootstraps youngun
@@Rb889that means you need to fix your w4 homeboy.
had a job where i helped onboard 2 new guys and presented an hour long presentation in front of 50 people and helped develop workflows for the younger staff... however when it came time for the mid-year bonus I was told "all of that stuff you did was great, but bonuses are based off of billable work instead of general office" i quit that job 2 weeks later and found one that respects me and gives me bonuses for going above and beyond
Same happened to a couple of us where I worked a few years back. Our top performers that would be pushed to stay late to help out pretty often were suddenly salaried management with nothing but a pay "raise" (cut) and new title. Lots of moaning and groaning about losing money for being good at our jobs so I shot out on our group chat something along the lines of "I take this as a great opportunity. Remember everyone, this is management experience for our resumes. Just so long as that paperwork has your official titles as "manager" then you can apply to places with that."
About 6 of 8 of our hardest workers left for other jobs within the month. I don't know about everyone else but when I asked about feedback in the interview they said that having management on my resume was a big plus lol
|-O-| that’s hilarious
That was my very first thought. This is great for the employee! Take that management title, work the bare minimum until they're getting ready to fire you, then take that title to somewhere that'll pay you for that title
@@Igneusflama It's not great especially since it's against the law to mislabel your workers.
@@baconator8804 even better! Do what I said above, then sue your previous employer once you're outta there for a nice bonus!
@@renderproductions1032i love these little faces
this channel actually does a great job of highlighting illegal work situations. If something like this happens to you, there's a lot of legal recourse. get everything in writing.
For sure. This scenario is an example of a Constructive Dismissal.
And if you’re in a one party consent state, secretly record everything. If you’re not in a one party consent state, move to one
@@NornSanctuaryW31TK421From wikipedia:
"The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has provided a 3-part test to determine whether or not a constructive discharge has occurred: (1) a reasonable person in the complainant's position would have found the working conditions intolerable; (2) conduct that constituted discrimination against the complainant created the intolerable working conditions; and (3) the complainant's involuntary resignation resulted from the intolerable working conditions."
I don't think this passes the second bullet point but I'm not sure.
@@CosmicEncounter7yeah. It might be worth fighting but good luck actually winning that case.
Bring a voice recorder into every meeting. Record every interaction with management. In writing or not it's their own words and the NLRB would love to hear that.
Marshall bringing up past trauma for all blue-collar workers. 🤣😭
This is maliciously brilliant
This is the kind of thing that was fought over a couple generations ago. There are specified job responsibilities that can be classified under "salary" rules (actually managing the work of other humans would fall under that; managing a forklift definitely doesn't)
Everybody whose work doesn't fit under those "salary" aka "exempt" guidelines has to be paid hourly, paid in compliance with overtime pay laws, and all that.
I’d call it inspired. Literally inspired by real life.
And super fucking illegal.
Also illegal
"I'ma beat you with a tire tool in the parking lot."
True Poetry!
You might want to do it more like Shakespeare.
"By tyre rod I smite you betimes yon the mustering ground." --The Manager of Venice, Act 1, Scene 1
It's always astonishing how creative companies get to take up more of your free time, but not pay you for them.
"Creative" is an understatement. I had a "work phone" in my previous position. I hated that cell phone!
I especially liked the part about beating the boss with a tire iron in the parking lot. 😂
I think a lot of us have been there with those intrusive thoughts 😂
Workers rights were not given peacefully, and at some point grinding them away is going to lead to a reminder that we are not slaves.
Sadly that's still assault. That being said, I once had a service advisor at my dealership use one of my tools without permission. I went to the service manager and calmly told him if it happened again I was going to beat his ass. And get fired. And not care. Not a threat, literally an "if this, then that" fact.
Ya. I worked for a construction company that likes to make some guys salary as “managers.”
Then they had them doing labor work on sites.
Labor board had a field day with them.
That's every residential non union company i have worked for
Yep, normal, been there done that. If you are in charge of your project and you decide to send the helpers home that were provided you are doing it yourself.
My union gives the company grief if any union work gets done by people who aren't union members, (management or any other non union person) but in effect managers can do it as long as they don't get caught. It is very much against the union contract for managers to do a laborer's job
@@julianbrelsford screw unions. low wages and corruption throughout. just like you gave an example of. worse, you ppl have no shame.
@@julianbrelsford Can't manage work for workers if you're doing their job
These skits are becoming less comedic and more just reenactment based. I love it!
"so if I don't work more off the clock, I'm fired?"
"that's correct..."
"Cool, can I get that in writing?"
Then sit back and enjoy your all-expense-paid vacation to lawyersville
This
If you're salaried non exempt you're entitled to overtime for anything over 40 hours.
This is a federal law.
It blows my mind how few people comprehend this.
I like how in every single one of these you look like you are sweating in your boots because you're trying to cheat out a bunch of forklift certified men out of their overtime.
The dude is a good actor. Probably seen all of this in person.
Very illegal, first complaint the Dept. of Labor attorneys would come down on this company like a buzzard after road kill. Company would be fined, employees compensated for all their overtime.
Don't know why I read this comment with a Southern accent.
Not my experience. In a VERY similar situation, the Labor people refused to do anything at all about it.
Couple of fun facts.
1. That's actually Illegal
2. Salary positions by law must pay at LEAST 37,500 yearly to be considered a salary position.
3. Salary positions are based on a 40 hour work week... not a 50, a 50 hour work week salary position must account for those additional 10 hours with a pay bump ABOVE the minimum
4. If the salary position that is based on a 50 hour work week continuously goes over 50 (as in a pattern of 55, 60, 70, etc + hours) they MUST pay you Additionally on top of the salary amount.
Call employers out on their Bullshit... Do not be afraid to report your employer. Staying quiet helps no one but the employer.
What laws?
Currently getting paid 8$ an hour less than my hourly counterparts
@@lucysmith4242Find a company that will treat you better mate. Feel free to warn your company first that you're leaving if you don't start getting compensated fairly
Could you site the laws or give me a resource to find them myself? It's fun walking into a meeting more prepared than my bosses.
@@michaelsullivan8934you'll have to look at your states laws. Things are different from state to state unfortunately.
Unfortunately a judge just bump that up to more now but I have never known a salary employee actually getting paid OT I know there are some
Fun fact. This is pretty much how it works for the entire IT field.
Good to know for someone entering the IT world.
I work IT. I'm salary. I never work overtime. I'm never asked to work overtime. Never have been. That might be a result of my specific field though.
IT needs to unionize hardcore
Fun fact, I showed this to most of my coworkers in the IT field and none of them have had this problem. Those given salaries have almost never worked overtime and those who refused the salaries to stay hourly weren't punished at all.
If you had a bad experience like this, boohoo. But don't make generalizations that just aren't true. Plenty of IT jobs are managed correctly, you just haven't looked hard enough.
@@Nilruin “Fun Fact: I have an anecdotal experience which means you didn’t look hard enough, despite the many reports and statements of people in the IT field complaining about being overworked”
My stepfather was made Foreman of the job, and the smartest thing he did was not take a salary like the rest of then. He makes almost a third more than they do now 😂
Being salaried is good in some jobs. In construction salary is a pay cut, give me my fucking 20 hours of overtime
@@holykonchu7250
i am willing to work as civil engineer in USA
in construction usually 8 hours of work is not enough.
so we work 50 or 60 per week.
do they in USA pay the engineer for the 20 overtime hours?
or usually you work 12 hours per day and you only given fixed salary or for 8 hours????
thank you
Depends honestly
@@holykonchu7250depends on what
is not illegal to work overtime and not get paid.
you i am frustrated i thought i will make a lot of money as civil engineer because they work more than 8 hours every day
but if you want me to work more hours and just plain for 8 hours i will gain nothing. civil engineer basic salary is consider low salary compare to other majors.
you will catch me slacking around for 10 hours everyweek
Salaried positions usually come with some form of contractual agreement between you and the company, don't sign
Get it in writing, snap a pic and bring it to a lawyer.
" I'm going to beat you with a tire tool in the parking lot" Dam funny !!!!!
Years ago while driving an airport shuttle van, the company decided to put us on salary. I told them that if I'm paid on a basis of 50 hours a week, I'm working 50 hours. So when a day ran long and I worked two extra hours, I called off two hours early the next day to comp. The owners did NOT like that, but I held firm. It wasn't long before they dropped the salary nonsense.
Salaried employees are entitled to overtime for anything over 40 hours a week. You were getting scammed already for working 50 hours without overtime pay.
LEARN THE GOD DAMN LAW
The only way a salary pay structure is going to work is if when you put in more than the first 50 hours/week you get overtime pay equal to time and a half, or more.
Outside of Breadstick Ricky and the Boss you're my next go-to- guy ... Sure do enjoy your videos... keep it up...I am subscribed
Same
Normalize threatening your boss with violence if he tries to extort you.
With judges and politicians next!
@ericheisler5351 but that's "terrorism"
Technically, yes, but american workers didn't get the standard of living they have today peacefully.
News Team 6 reporting...
"The entire corporate management team of XYZ corporation were killed overnight in their homes. Workers with the terrorist organization 'Fug You, PAY ME!' took credit for what they called 'back pay'."
That's why we have unions. The union beats your boss up and takes the blame for it as they collectively have the money for a great lawyer
I'd be standing right next to you my brother.
Tire iron in hand.
Looking to get my hit in too.
Can a brother join y'all on this whoopin'?
It's why people are "silently quitting". You work your hours and that's it. We need to bring back unions and support others even if we are not in them.
Agreed . I was Union 20 years and now I have an hourly job, granited a lot safer but sure do miss the Union pay and benefits. 😢
Also need union reps who aren't in the company's pocket/pet project. Seen it for two years in the shipyard, heard more from the decades before that. Blue collars deserve better
Unions used to be good for the people, now a days not so much. The union is for the top teamsters or w/e they call them and their pet political pals. Unions are too corrupt these days. It's bad enough I'm forced to pay the government for "protection and freedom" I'll skip on paying a group of people dues for them to maybe work in my interest.
Damn straight
@@urbanteck Back in 2009 we voted to go on strike AT&T CWA 6370, had plenty of money in our strike fund and our reps stabbed us in the back. We wanted to know why they caved so quick when we knew there was no way the managers could go out in the field and do our jobs.
I had the opposite happen to me in a corporate job, I took a salary position and HR missed it and paid me hourly. Manager was shaking when he handed me that check. It was monthly.
HAHAH! Epic.. and you utterly lucked out.
Directors at my job frequently say "you're in charge" to the part timers who work the reception desk on their way out, and our customers think they're joking. Nope, they're dead serious because we're open on weekends with no management in sight every weekend.
Part timers working full time hours with borderline minimum wage, and next to no benefits. Never work harder than the wage demands. Know your worth.
"The shifts are 12 hours apart" i felt that as a paramedic the best part is when you get a serious call 5 minutes before shift change and that 12 hours apart turns into 10 or 7-8 if its a police standby. Once i got off probation i took the first 24/48 schedule i could get
Wendy's in Washington state would frequently require us to clock out and keep working to save on labor. And people would do it. I quit.
Find the local Human Resources office of your region and report it.
report to labor board lmao wtf.
You definitely need to a video on the guy on crew that freaks out over losing overtime because they can’t afford it because of their new truck and boat and side by side 😂
I would be so excited to get that in writing. So would any labor attorney.
man i feel this. i got bumped into management before. and they gave me my new salary and on paper it looked good. after a couple of months i realized the math and i was losing money because of no OT and i was now getting called at home and on weekends. i resigned and went back to hourly after that.
I worked for a company doing a hotel remodel as a laborer they found at a temp agency. They paid $100 a day regardless of what we worked and had us going 7 days a week. I stayed because I needed money and figured it was better than going back to the food industry since I had no other marketable skill. I hated that job and let the bosses know it. I would argue with bosses when I needed time to pick up my future wife or when I needed a sick day, and lost it on one supervisor over his attitude toward me, but I worked hard as hell and the rest of the guys working there were barely sentient chimps. It paid off, though, because I did land a job with the electrical contractor who came in for some of the remodel and still work for that company these 9 years later. Sometimes you've got to do some shit, but always work hard and search for your way out if your company is screwing you.
Issue is the volume of "screw you over" jobs who expect you to stick around for a career vastly outnumber the number of people who need to...let me check my notes...eat, pay rent, and get sick
You should open your own contracting business that's where the real money is at instead of wasting away your years working for someone work for yourself!
@@furrycircuitry2378 i'm good. I like the electrical company I work for. They pay me nice, I have a good work life balance and am never really stressed. If anything I would like to move in and be a part owner of the company since I like them, I like their customers and I like the way they treat all of us and would like to keep that spirit going. Opening my own business sounds miserable and stressful, more so than trying to move up with who I have now.
@@furrycircuitry2378 It fucking sucks that this is how our economy is now. I don't want to start my own business. I just want to work 9 to 5 and that's it. Why do I have to start my own business to be treated like a human being?
You are creating more entertaining material than 99% of what the writers in Hollywood (who are on strike) put out. Good job man!
And I hope they win their strike.
@@hillbillydeluxe27 Me too. AI is going to be a problem unless people start stepping up and putting restrictions on it. Good on the WGA for standing up for themselves.
@@Nilruin my son says that the AI that exists now is not real IA. It’s a close facsimile. He says we’re still a ways off from RAI (real artificial intelligence). But he said when it comes, look out.
@@hillbillydeluxe27 they are talentless hacks who haven't put out anything good in the last decade. Fuck 'em
@@hillbillydeluxe27it's close enough. Look out
Everyone's going to jail if you don't let this man go home lol.
Dude, your manager response impressions are so on point LOL..."i know it seems that way..."
Reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago when I was working at a place in Texas called Tatex. I was working for the company through a temp agency that paid me and the other temps $7.50 an hour while charging Tatex $21 an hour for each one of us. Well after I had been at Tatex for about four months, they brought all of the temps in for a meeting and told us they had some great news. They were going to hire us all on directly and we would no longer be temps. Cool! So that means a pay increase, right? Nope. We were still going to get $7.50 an hour. But the way they played it up was that they were really doing us a huge favor when really all they wanted to do was save money.
Worked for a security company that did this to me and I was to young to recognize I was getting taken advantage of. I moved up to district supervisor and got the pay for it...all was good, then my boss got arrested for impersonating a cop...so they gave me his job title as well and I was told just until they find someone to cover it. "Its trial by fire and if you make it youll have a spot up here with us" ....I ended up getting fired because they worked me 5 days straight because if people called out or no call no showed I had to cover that spot or find someone to work it and with sites 150 miles spread across louisianna well...thats why I ended up staying awake...working one shift, then driving a few hours to another and so on plus my office duties when everything was covered. day 6 I crashed cause I finally had a day where everything was good to go. I slept for 2 days and woke up to my phone with hundreds of missed calls and voicemails with the last few telling me to report to the office monday and bring the phone, gun and keys. XD
" *You're trying to make us work more and take more of our money, and trick us into feeling good about it... the government already does that enough* "
You've got the entire Middle Class' vote for President man
Lol.No it doesn't.
Always be union! Protect yourselves and your quality of life.
I'm a A-class truck driver. I found a position that was semi local, on a truck with a sleeper....
They wanted to pay a driver salary... With a "Millionaire Retirement Policy"
I no called, no showed before I even gave an answer.
Dude, I want to thank you because I thought about getting a construction job and watching your videos made me realize that I don't want to go through any of that shit.
This is why we NEED unions!! Stop the exploitation of workers!!!
This is a skit, lol
@@jakehoward1160 Based on a REAL narrative and experience for many!
I spent many years in middle management. Most of the time, I found myself working extra hours doing the work of the hourly folks. I wasn't really a "manager". Instead; I was a sort of "flex employee" who could fill in wherever needed. I actually got pretty good at the hourly jobs. After a while, that was most of my role. When I finally put in my 2-week notice, my manager was noticeably pissed. She wouldn't speak to me for the entire 2 weeks. On my last day, she called me into her office and admitted she hated the job and the company. She said she didn't speak to me because she knew I was retiring and would never have to work another day in my life. I politely thanked her, handed over my keys and walked out the back door, never to return.
Time to organize. Form a union. Call an organizer. I'm sure a teamsters is available in that part if the country. Southeast USA?
No unions down her slick. Too much workforce population in the south. They will fire everyone before they let a union rep on the property.
All of the SouthEast is like this.
@@PGspeed88 to prevent retaliation if you don’t agree to the salaried terms
@@Mmuitd pretty sure, most places ots illegal to fire on these grounds.
@@PGspeed88 I agree with you. BUT (you knew that was coming), getting the attention of the national labor review board or OSHA or any government agency is nearly impossible unless you bring in some kind of class action suit and that leads to hiring lawyers and lots of time. With an established labor organization such as the teamsters you can use their existing legal infrastructure. And yes, I'm a union carpenter out of NYC and yes I work with my tools, I'm not a union representative. I do concrete.
You’ve obviously been around some of the same plants I have. Let’s give ourselves a hand. Then we all clap for all the hard work we did.
There is no way this could happen because the labor board will fall hard on them because being salaried doesn't mean they can make you work all the hours they want. If you are paid for 50 hours and they make it impossible through their rules to work 50 hours the labor board will come down hard on you. Saw this happen when I worked for a place where their rules made it impossible for some managers who were getting paid for 50 hours to actually work 50 hours and they were were working 60-70 hours a week and the TWC in Texas hit them with fines and made them pay all the extra hours in overtime to their managers.
There's always ways to dupe the law, and companies are damn good at finding them.
That's funny because I can almost guarantee that here in Georgia the labor board would most certainly let this happen. They are particularly fangless here.
@@yoduh8681 Thats why I hate it when people don't want a strong government. I want a strong IRS to punish the wealthy evading taxes, I want a strong labor board to punish wage theft and shit like this.
@@MasterGhostf doesn't matter how strong the government body is if it operates against the interest of the employee and on behalf of employers.
@@yoduh8681 this
This scenario is an exact representation of the company I used to work for. And the management of that company was dumbfounded why employee turnover was extreme. Great video.
In auto union, got offered to sign up for management, I'm curious to see what is up. I go to the meeting and listen. Get to the Q&A segment. Bring up the real situation of a area sabotaging producing but not in obvious ways to be in trouble. What's in place to protect me from fired over it. HR people were confused and said that doesn't happen. Me and others laugh and walk out. Find out, ALL hr has never worked on floor.
They rarely, if ever do.
HR doesn't work at all
This a great video. It made me Wana throw my phone on the floor. 😂 I'd definitely be waiting by boss man car door that evening
I’d take my new title and use it to get a new manager job.
This guy is so spot on all the time it's unreal😆👌🏼
As sad is this is, this is a real tactic that companies use. Make people managers, put them on salary, don't pay overtime. Companies can save a lot of money doing this.
They can also get themselves in a world of trouble because now they get paid whether they're at work or not.
The Man speaks the truth!
New Sub
If I am Salary, I would not work more than 40 hours.
And some people would just rather die… cheers!
@@miguel4297 Your comment makes absolutely no sense. What are you even getting at?
Lol, and I'll 'manage' my way over to a lawyer when we conclude this meeting.
I worked for a company who tried to make everyone salary, but they got to pay back pay and interest after the court dust settled.
Many, many companies have tried this. They usually get their asses kicked in the end (pun intended).
Union 💯
Thats what they're there for
Is this guy in this video single?
@@Poe-007
Single, no kids, probably living in his parent's house
@@iAmIronMan0605 liar 😂🤣
@@Poe-007 wdym
Is English your 2nd language?
@@iAmIronMan0605 - I meant what I said.
It's crazy how some judge in Texas shut down the whole law to allow salaried employees making less than like 48k a year to get overtime.
Had a buddy working at a small CAD shop that everyone in the workplace was salary. He kept track of his hours for 3 years and sued, or threatened to sue the company for lost wages. The company backed down, paid him his compensation and put him back on hourly wages.
Let me guess, they restructured him out of his role the next quarter?
Watching these skits have shown me how lucky i am to be blessed with the employment i have.
Regular ot.
Quarterly bonuses.
Competent management.
An understandable system of logistics and production.
Above average market pay.
Affordable benefits.
I wish most folks could enjoy this little slice of sanity.
For sure a rare gem in these times
Id be that's how you wanna play because either i call the labor board or you pay 100000k salary with a 25000k sign on bonus, and well see how fast overtie comes back
Maaaaannn these videos hurt my soul... I feel that shit...
My work place did something like this two years ago. They stopped quarterly bonuses and gave us all "raises".
Most people got nothing, the average was .15 if ya did. Per year we got about 2.4k a year in bonuses. The raises, if you got one at all, got you about 300 a year. Pay cuts dressed up as raises coupled with increased quotas.
Mfers.
My last job did the same thing. We would get 1-2k (I can't remember for sure) a year in bonuses besides our Christmas bonus. Suddenly they said they wanted to make bonuses based on work performance rather than "guaranteed", and we were getting a raise to compensate us. The idea being that if we did well on a big job (construction field) then we could get a cut of the profits. They claimed that we could actually get more bonus pay than we used to get if we did a good job. Admittedly, the raise wasn't terrible (I don't recall what it was) but it didn't make up for the bonuses. After a year, and many big/good jobs, not one of us got a bonus. I finally complained in a meeting with my boss and supervisor and was flat out told "Well you haven't done a good enough job to earn one". Now I'll be honest and say that I wasn't the best out of my coworkers (one in particular was VERY good at his job and had over 20 years with that company and even he didn't get a bonus) but I always gave my best and did extra to make sure things were done right. I was even promoted to a "field supervisor" fairly early in my time there since I did a good job.
After being told I wouldn't be getting a bonus then, or probably ever, I took a shot and asked for a raise and was scoffed at and blatantly told no. I just walked out of that meeting without a word. Less than 4 months later, for that and other reasons, I left that job. Management was very bad in SO many ways and even when we pointed it out in an effort to help them (constructive criticism) they somehow managed to get worse. In my resignation letter, which I sent to all the board members of the company and my supervisors, I called them out for their bad management and disrespect towards their employees. They haven't changed a bit though since I left (I still talk to old coworkers) and they are going to keep driving people away (I know of two others that left within a month of me for the same or similar reasons). The ship is taking on water but since they're on the top deck they are oblivious.
It isn't particularly nice, but bonuses are under the complete discretion of the employer. They can decide to alter or stop them at any point, which is what it sounded like they decided to do and tried to reduce outrage with the joke "raises". I've learned that a bonus should never be relied upon or viewed as anything other than an ethereal carrot, since it has so much flexibility to screw the employee. Isn't two years ago pandemic time, when there was a great deal of uncertainty and normal economic processes were disrupted?
@@jasony8480 The bonuses were probably part of the employment conditions at the time of hiring. Going back on that later could be seen as breach of contract, in fact it very literally could be.
Oh you making me Management?
Awesome. HEY OSHA, got the management of a facility that's really looking forward to chatting.
Guys I think we have people out there who enjoy spending their entire lives working. It’s the same people who try and condemn you when ya say you want more freedom to be with family etc. “Lazy” I believe is what they would say to you. Because ya won’t slave your life away and love it. Not sure about yall but I call these people ROBOTS. Why automate businesses we have dull empty shelled human being robots already! And the crazy part is they love only having about 10 years (retirement) of actual LIFE. How in the hell does anybody take pride in that? The next man does not actually care how you think work is life. They also do not care about your accomplishments in work, they are their own person why’s your story important? Something like that. So working your life away for what? Seriously? Some of you guys work jobs I never have and I just wholeheartedly believe you should make more and get to be home MORE! Unless you have a job that requires the time away from home like a truck driver or something major, why not desire to be home why choose work over home? What it looks like. Single and no kids? Ok, that’s valid. Get the money! Even then you still need time to LIVE. I can’t understand people, when your life is about to be over and you have that thought (I never traveled, never did anything but work) how the hell do you expect anybody that didn’t benefit from your working to see it as a good thing? Dude never lived. That’s what I’d say at your funeral.
This is obviously not legal but you should know there'd be a silver lining to this. If they put manager in your job title you can leverage that to move jobs to another company.
Goodwill out of Flagstaff Arizona did this. I needed a job desperately and that's exactly what they did to me. I had to work minimum 50 hours a week which took my"salary" to around the minimum freaking wage. I was the facilities manager of several buildings mind you. Then, I had to work overtime and get this 50 hours was not overtime but then I had to work overtime but I wasn't allowed to look at it as overtime either. And once every two or three weeks I worked 60 to 70+ hours that week. I made around three dollars an hour BELOW minimum wage one week.
I tried speaking to the CEO Dave, and the two other directors Jordan and Andrew. All they would say is I can't look at the way I did. See they went to school and they thought since I didn't have a college education I was stupid. They actually told me how stupid all the employees were especially the Indians off the reservation that worked there. They were too stupid to have back to back days off. Yeah they didn't use the word stupid they said not intelligent enough but that means stupid. I kid you not. And it was legal. And I had to keep that job for damn near a year and a half before I could find a better one. Flagstaff is in Coconino County which is a liberal county. which means poor pay finally got the hell out of there
Uuuh, liberal does not always mean poor pay. Look at Texas and a minimum wage of what? $3 an hour? I live in a liberal city and we upped the minimum to $15. Granted, it should be $20 but hey.. we're trying.
And yes, not all liberal polices are good. Anyone that thinks either side is 100% good is utterly unaware and suffering from Stolkholm Sydrome.
Goodwill is part of a tax and wage cheating ring they also have a human trafficking ring on the side. They use drug addicts as borderline slave labor.
I worked for a branch of satchmos/mother road in flagstaff too. Was made a manager and was working 50-70 hours a week on salary because the owner didn’t want to do his job
This guy is a genius. Channel is awesome :)
They truly think that their word wizardry is genius level.
I'm with Don and his honesty.....Your ass is getting whooped!😂😂😂
The fact that this kind of stuff is very real, and not uncommon. Is scary LMAO.
Screw em. Just because its a salary doesnt mean anyone gets to disregard your work life balance.
This almost feels like when management opted for us to be called "Team Members" instead of employees or staff.
Honestly it's the moment they cut overtime pay where you tell them - not ask *tell* - to put it in writing
I prefer being a team member over a family member. At least with teammate, I can claim I'm griefing by "quiet quitting"
@PinkManGuy loool that's true. Tho I've always seen it as a disingenuous way to make titles seem more grand than what they actually are
I think compies are figuring this out to keep from paying OT and by offering that title the person doesn't think about it at the time.
So why not just chill out after the 50 hours lol? Don't leave BUT ALSO don't do anymore work. lol
Dawg if I'm not working, I don't want to be at work.
@@piratekingthaszar7912 Right but sometimes you gotta play Game of Thrones at work to stick around and fly under the radar.
Exactly the art of looking busy. I do tree work for a power company and we set all our safety shit out and pole saws when we need to catch a break. With everyone in hard hard it’s very hard to tell driving by
I like these a lot more when he fights back. The ones where he just takes it drive me up a wall
this is illegal
It's really not
Salary is great. I do my best to work as least as possible. I’m getting down to 35-38 hours a week. Supposed to work 12 hours a day but I don’t.
Lowe’s did this a back in the 90s and ended up paying out so much in fines and back pay that it almost bankrupted the company. They tried to say that their employees were hourly plus salary. This was to pay their employees a wage equal to a hourly employee but get the hours of a salary employee.
I worked for a place like this, everyone (literally everyone) was a manager in training and paid salary. They scheduled you from 9am to 9pm and gave you one day off. You also had one day a week you could start early or leave early (that was start at noon or leave at 6p).
I’ve been management and salary for most of my career. It does suck when you’re working way more than 40 hours a week.
But I’ve been lucky with my past couple jobs where leadership understands there may be long days, and then you can cut out or shorten other days. The funny part is when you shorten your day hourly employees like to make remarks about it. I always respond with, “ we can put you on salary right here, right now based on your 40 hours a week.” That shuts them up real quick.
Great channel I hope you do One on truckin as a truck driver for 25 years and I can attest to all of this 🎃
yeah, we have production program where im at now, if we finish early we can go home early with full day of pay. only thing is, they keep adding to the daily demands and everybody just kills themselves to come up short of expectations anyways. there is no going home early for the day's pay. its just what they do to get you to move your butt a lil faster. often finding a con in companies. the last company i was at asked me if i wanted additional training in worse areas, i asked, does it come with a pay increase or any incentives? no they answered, and i answered, no i don't want the additional training in worse areas.
“A logic analyzer costs $10,000. Overtime for engineers is free”. Tom West, Soul of a New Machine. 60-80 work weeks without extra pay has been the norm for decades.
On the plus side, only having to deal with *one* dock door and the trailers that bump it *does* sound kinda nice... as long as it is pallet loads.
“I know nobody likes change…” is always a good sign coming from a manager…..
I’m salaried. On paper I’m scheduled for 87 hours of work but I don’t even work 40 in a week. I make it my aim to do my work and go home early.
We all have to eat and that's why we work. But I don't want to fall in this trap where I spend all my money on nonsense because I understand how horrible working conditions are.i want to be able to retire early and if I go on vacations, buy a new truck, I'll be working til I'm 80
That rant at the end made me want to hold that manager down and help my boy get free hits 😭😭
It's this kind of bs is the reason I got out of "Them big jobs" 😂
I don't remember signing any paperwork making me salary...
God this pisses me off. God job brother. Brilliantly executed.
My favorite is when companies restructure and make up titles. One company combined 3 roles into 1 and they were no longer Branch Managers, but Branch Operations Leader. Got paid less for it too. I bet they still can't figure out why they are burning through them every 2 years.
Nah, chances are that company knows. They just don't care about the turnover cause it's still cheaper than actually having 3 people for those 3 roles.
I worked for a drilling and blasting contractor for thirty five years, they repeatedly tried to put me on salary, I refused. After about five years of asking I said sure let's talk. They wanted a number, averaged my last three years income,added thirty five percent,slid it across the table and I thought he was going to choke LOL. He said we can't afford that, I said you can't afford not to. End of the day they ponied up.
Yep, this seems like a skit, but it's happened to me almost exactly like this twice.
The entire restaurant industry does this too. I laughed in their faces and walked out
Boss- What are you doing?
Worker- Waiting for my replacement
Boss- well put you phone away and get back to work we're behind schedule!
Worker- ohh... Sorry sir. but I am salaried for only 50 hours and that capped out 15 minutes ago so...
Boss- Dont give me that! If you don't get back on that forklift right now your fired!
Worker- So you are forcing me to work with no pay?
Boss- There's no need to get all dramatic about this. you need to keep working until your relieved by your next shift
Worker- Sorry, no can do. anything over 50 hours a week is wage theft and we cant have that. So as "Manager" of this forklift, I decided that this is the best way to handle the situation and avoid legal complications :)