The GTOx solve of this hand is particularly interesting because the solver would have won this hand without even taking into account that Addamo is overaggro. But I'm confident that most people never 3bet the flop (solver does it 50%) and somewhat confident that most people never shove the turn (solver does it 100%). So in the end Addamo is correctly exploiting passivity mistakes made by the field. This may be connected to the 19bb 3bet. This is relatively new I believe, at least I haven't seen it until recently. It may be that people are still used to playing 200bb pots with a much larger SPR, where you probably don't want to shove your overpairs for denial very often.
I've found it incredibly interesting how much solver results change based off of the number of reraises that are allowed. If villain will never 3bet or 4bet postflop, then the solver really goes crazy a lot of the time with raising and reraising against them
2:05 With Brewer as the effective stack at 173BB, the commentator's analysis is probably correct. But if they were actually around 400BB deep, I think reverse implied odds with 43s becomes a big consideration.
Wrecked by fish too 😂 Reminds me of that meme format when fish overly aggress and end up punting, medium regs are too nitty and get crushed, and end bosses overly aggress and print lol.
He isnt getting wrecked. You have to fold some hands. Getting Brewer to fold QQ and Schindler folding QQ in the SHRB was him wrecking. The triton stuff was standard semi bluffs knowing Adammo bluffs a lot.
Awesome video. Upon some reflection after watching the video, I was thinking about a scenario in which the flop was RAINBOW instead. I'm very certain think that OOP would then never jam. However, I am not sure whether he would mostly call to "let villain bluff" with his polarized range, or if OOP would then start raising small (clicking back) with a big part of his range in an attempt to get value + deny equity. My guess is that, on this texture, OOP would let Addamo bluff. I think the answer to my question will depend on whether or not OOP's stronger hands need protection from overcards or not (since protection from draws is irrelevant on that TT4r flop). It would actually make sense to always click back with 99 JJ QQ and slowplay KK and AA more often. I don't remember the last time I thought this deeply about the game. Thank you FE
Imo, the overbets Addamo do is actually under bluffing pretending to be overbluffing. Considering his 3x4x5x pot sizing and icm pressure ,he should probably find more than one bluff for one value. If he is not doing that, people should actually defend LESS than gto ,not more. Having the crazy bluffer image gave him great edge for his value hands , the Daniel call is one example.
If you want to watch a great replay watch the one where omaha4rollz plays a ft against addamo. Rollz wasn’t having any of Addams’s funny business and was responding to aggression with aggression like you suggest.
Where I'm a little fuzzy is on the equity denial aspect on the flop. Am I thinking correctly about it in saying that if Addamo is raising more high equity bluffs then by 3betting all in we want him to make an equity mistake by folding a hand that would've been correct to call had he known we have QQ? Does the solver balance the 3bet all in by also shoving "A" high flush draws (or "A" blocker) too? On the other hand, if Addamo is raising with a higher portion of his weak draws (backdoors?) as well then raising to a small amount is better because calling a small raise with very low equity against our QQ is a mistake?
There are two ways: (1) When you go to input a hand, at the top you will see a tab for "Manual" input; or (2) if you have a license for Simple Postflop you can run any sim you want and then export it to GTOx.
The solver determined that folding on the river with QQ is correct, but KK calls. The reason being that QQ blocks a lot of backdoor straight combos that might raise the flop and continue on the turn.
how did you calculate the preflop ranges splitting sizing with the software? Also I am wondering where there's any over-assumed strategy on the flop as Addamo will not put in 78s and 9Js with pure weak flush draw on the flop vs that sizing 3bet jam unless we are including the turn where there becomes combo draw and there is bounty in play.
I still think that this is tbh a shocking fold with QQ here. Addamo is saying he has Tx or better thats it. how many Ax of spades does he have cold calling 6x preflop and then jams river? The ace is pretty much a blank.
No it isn’t. It fills up so many Ax spades there. That river is what destroyed my homie’s equity so he folded. Any other non spade or broadway river and he calls off.
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no the main takeaway is that these guys aren't studying properly with node locking etc. cos if they were, they would know how to adjust properly (3bet the flop or jam vs bet ott).
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I disagree with your analysis and range construction. It really depends how merged addamos value range is. If he has valuebet folds on turn or give ups with value on river, then yes, Brewer shoving turn with a wide range makes sense. If Addamo is very polar, tilted towards aggressiveness, then calling QQ 100% of time is the better play. Also you didn't go into how messed up (weak) Addamos Flop just calling range must be. That's sth that is easily exploitable too.
With SPRs this shallow the button never value-bet folds on the turn but does fold some missed flushes on the river (albeit not 43s). As a result, the SB has to check-raise shove the turn in order to get value from villain's draw combos that are never folding (of which there are several with the Qs unblocked).
it's kind of embarrassing that there are players in $50k+ buy in tournaments and they aren't running node locked sims to see how to play against an overly aggressive opponent. if i was backing them i wouldn't be happy. what exactly are they studying, 20bb re jam ranges? if a player is over raising IP, you start to 3bet the flop as the OOP player, its a very simple adjustment. if he has Tx then its just GG, but you can't let his air/semi bluffs etc to realise their equity, or to bluff you off the best hand. i run node locked sims for cash games all the time. i remember playing against this fish who was 3betting 40% bvb, so i created a node locked sim and we basically just rfi tight and re jam the entire opening range :P i done the same for another reg who was 3betting too often from the sb, and included 4bet jams for 100bb in my sims. so basically what this proves is that these mtt guys are very lazy when it comes to studying post flop. i'm sure they are good pre flop with short stacks etc, but this is very poor from the OOP player. river i think is the most reasonable decision, but flop is a clear 3bet and turn a clear jam. before you say go play in the $50k- no, i am a cash game player, but i play vs Addamo type players all the time and they are not the toughest regs at the table, they are actually fairly easy to adjust against if you know how (or node lock to find out the answers). they just run over the weaker regulars. having a very aggro style almost always works out well in tournaments though, which is why he is crushing.
@@Demondoink1 you’re just talking that’s all. If you’re as good as you claim we’d know who you were. But we don’t. Just another keyboard warrior. Put your money where your mouth is
Bro solvers are so annoying. Tools for stupid poker players. Addamo is the best because he mix some solver study with heart and playing outside the box. Hate poker new era but the video have a really great work and I need to congratulate you for that
So confusing honestly this is too much , poker is going to die out bc it’s boring , gambling and most ppl will lose money and their life playing this versus becoming lawyers n doctors
This video was like a movie. I stopped it 3 times to go take another glass of wine.
I enjoyed every second of it.
Keep it coming!
Sounds to me that you are just an alcoholic making excuses about the reason you go get 3 glasses of wine in 20 minutes
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Lol
Your videos are honestly a pleasure to watch, all of em’. Keep it up!
Keep the Addamo content coming!
Seriously, just make it an Addamo review channel. We need more Addamo content out there.
Probably your best video yet.
insanely instructive vid, thank you
The GTOx solve of this hand is particularly interesting because the solver would have won this hand without even taking into account that Addamo is overaggro. But I'm confident that most people never 3bet the flop (solver does it 50%) and somewhat confident that most people never shove the turn (solver does it 100%). So in the end Addamo is correctly exploiting passivity mistakes made by the field.
This may be connected to the 19bb 3bet. This is relatively new I believe, at least I haven't seen it until recently. It may be that people are still used to playing 200bb pots with a much larger SPR, where you probably don't want to shove your overpairs for denial very often.
I've found it incredibly interesting how much solver results change based off of the number of reraises that are allowed. If villain will never 3bet or 4bet postflop, then the solver really goes crazy a lot of the time with raising and reraising against them
@@tommyallen5761 which is an error if you’re bluffing a lot and villain over calls.
Amazing job as usual!
Best poker channel ever, dont stop
I believe Addamos antics is only effective in high stakes.. if he played in a low stakes everyone will insta call 😂
2:05 With Brewer as the effective stack at 173BB, the commentator's analysis is probably correct. But if they were actually around 400BB deep, I think reverse implied odds with 43s becomes a big consideration.
Yea 43s seems a little loosey goosey here, and my man wasn’t even eating a sandwich.
Effective stack is 193bbs
Thanks so much for this content
Yo cant lie, that intro was creme de la creme
That ending though…Addamo getting wrecked isn’t something you often see.
Wrecked by fish too 😂
Reminds me of that meme format when fish overly aggress and end up punting, medium regs are too nitty and get crushed, and end bosses overly aggress and print lol.
He isnt getting wrecked. You have to fold some hands. Getting Brewer to fold QQ and Schindler folding QQ in the SHRB was him wrecking. The triton stuff was standard semi bluffs knowing Adammo bluffs a lot.
@@NoLongerGrilling Im assuming you have played a lot of 50k buy in tournaments :)
Awesome video. Upon some reflection after watching the video, I was thinking about a scenario in which the flop was RAINBOW instead. I'm very certain think that OOP would then never jam. However, I am not sure whether he would mostly call to "let villain bluff" with his polarized range, or if OOP would then start raising small (clicking back) with a big part of his range in an attempt to get value + deny equity.
My guess is that, on this texture, OOP would let Addamo bluff. I think the answer to my question will depend on whether or not OOP's stronger hands need protection from overcards or not (since protection from draws is irrelevant on that TT4r flop). It would actually make sense to always click back with 99 JJ QQ and slowplay KK and AA more often.
I don't remember the last time I thought this deeply about the game. Thank you FE
The smile fr Adamo at the end was gold. "You got me, im full of s***. You are too but there's nothing I can do"
This is a perfect video to send to people who don't understand poker and have stupid preconceptions.
Great video for sure you make this higher level stuff much easier to digest now where is the live vlog that was priceless content
What is that ambient soundtrack? I need it in my life. Please share.
God i love these videos. Thankyou man
what have they done to the great game of poker?
Imo, the overbets Addamo do is actually under bluffing pretending to be overbluffing. Considering his 3x4x5x pot sizing and icm pressure ,he should probably find more than one bluff for one value. If he is not doing that, people should actually defend LESS than gto ,not more. Having the crazy bluffer image gave him great edge for his value hands , the Daniel call is one example.
If you want to watch a great replay watch the one where omaha4rollz plays a ft against addamo. Rollz wasn’t having any of Addams’s funny business and was responding to aggression with aggression like you suggest.
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Where I'm a little fuzzy is on the equity denial aspect on the flop. Am I thinking correctly about it in saying that if Addamo is raising more high equity bluffs then by 3betting all in we want him to make an equity mistake by folding a hand that would've been correct to call had he known we have QQ? Does the solver balance the 3bet all in by also shoving "A" high flush draws (or "A" blocker) too?
On the other hand, if Addamo is raising with a higher portion of his weak draws (backdoors?) as well then raising to a small amount is better because calling a small raise with very low equity against our QQ is a mistake?
Good video as always. Come back with the arial video series. It’s very interesting. :)
How do you convert live hand to GTOx. I can only import HH and not create one from scratch
There are two ways: (1) When you go to input a hand, at the top you will see a tab for "Manual" input; or (2) if you have a license for Simple Postflop you can run any sim you want and then export it to GTOx.
I don't understand why I choose to open the card.
What a gem!
i wonder whether Addamo ever sees videos like this and what he thinks about them :D
great content!
was the call in the end correct? I feel like I missed that part.
The solver determined that folding on the river with QQ is correct, but KK calls. The reason being that QQ blocks a lot of backdoor straight combos that might raise the flop and continue on the turn.
@@christopherebsch3766 thankyou!
Man That was a fast review
how did you calculate the preflop ranges splitting sizing with the software?
Also I am wondering where there's any over-assumed strategy on the flop as Addamo will not put in 78s and 9Js with pure weak flush draw on the flop vs that sizing 3bet jam unless we are including the turn where there becomes combo draw and there is bounty in play.
He used Simple Preflop I would assume
I still think that this is tbh a shocking fold with QQ here. Addamo is saying he has Tx or better thats it. how many Ax of spades does he have cold calling 6x preflop and then jams river? The ace is pretty much a blank.
Yeah dude. I’m sure you would never fold in that situation. Just always call with no brain.
No it isn’t. It fills up so many Ax spades there. That river is what destroyed my homie’s equity so he folded. Any other non spade or broadway river and he calls off.
@@PHILLYMEDIC69 great objective and informative reply filled with reasons as to why he should fold. Congrats.
@@Simon-nv5zj don't worry mr simon. I will call hustler casino to get you in the ring and you show them who's boss with your picture perfect reads and play.
@@PHILLYMEDIC69 so you don’t have any reasons then? Figures.
I wonder if "finding equilibrium" can beat nl100 on stars
Can Bruce Lee be UFC champion or was he better off as the martial arts OG that taught everyone to get into MMA? Some people are better at teaching advanced info rather then playing.
how can someone buy in a 50k mtt and be such a doormat?
Triton players woke up and seeing this video......
So.. we go 2009 high stakes poker on these GTO nerds?
So neither of them played according to GTO so all that talk inbetween was really not that relevant
nice intro :D gg
I think the main takeaway is Addamo is a fucking boss
no the main takeaway is that these guys aren't studying properly with node locking etc. cos if they were, they would know how to adjust properly (3bet the flop or jam vs bet ott).
@@Demondoink1 how can you do that if Addamo could have an uncapped range of 10x there.
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TUFF intro
Is Addamo supposed to shove Ax of spades on this river?
Yes. He would shove for value with most Ax of spades combos
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Nobody:
Absolutely no one:
Finding Equilibrium after 3 years of making videos: NODE LOCKING!!!
🤣 just trolling, nice job, bro.
I would shove turn 100% of the time 😂
I disagree with your analysis and range construction. It really depends how merged addamos value range is. If he has valuebet folds on turn or give ups with value on river, then yes, Brewer shoving turn with a wide range makes sense. If Addamo is very polar, tilted towards aggressiveness, then calling QQ 100% of time is the better play.
Also you didn't go into how messed up (weak) Addamos Flop just calling range must be. That's sth that is easily exploitable too.
With SPRs this shallow the button never value-bet folds on the turn but does fold some missed flushes on the river (albeit not 43s). As a result, the SB has to check-raise shove the turn in order to get value from villain's draw combos that are never folding (of which there are several with the Qs unblocked).
@@Dswelli23 that doesn’t make sense. Why would you shove into an uncapped range. Basically suicide.
"aggressing" isn't a word
Addamo 😍
it's kind of embarrassing that there are players in $50k+ buy in tournaments and they aren't running node locked sims to see how to play against an overly aggressive opponent. if i was backing them i wouldn't be happy. what exactly are they studying, 20bb re jam ranges?
if a player is over raising IP, you start to 3bet the flop as the OOP player, its a very simple adjustment. if he has Tx then its just GG, but you can't let his air/semi bluffs etc to realise their equity, or to bluff you off the best hand.
i run node locked sims for cash games all the time. i remember playing against this fish who was 3betting 40% bvb, so i created a node locked sim and we basically just rfi tight and re jam the entire opening range :P i done the same for another reg who was 3betting too often from the sb, and included 4bet jams for 100bb in my sims.
so basically what this proves is that these mtt guys are very lazy when it comes to studying post flop. i'm sure they are good pre flop with short stacks etc, but this is very poor from the OOP player. river i think is the most reasonable decision, but flop is a clear 3bet and turn a clear jam.
before you say go play in the $50k- no, i am a cash game player, but i play vs Addamo type players all the time and they are not the toughest regs at the table, they are actually fairly easy to adjust against if you know how (or node lock to find out the answers). they just run over the weaker regulars.
having a very aggro style almost always works out well in tournaments though, which is why he is crushing.
So why arent you crushing the hi stakes scene bro?
@@Gos1234567 I do play high stakes cash games on Stars, just not mtt's cos i can't handle the variance haha.
@@Demondoink1 you’re just talking that’s all. If you’re as good as you claim we’d know who you were. But we don’t. Just another keyboard warrior. Put your money where your mouth is
If you know he is capable of making these plays, you call less often on the turn
I think he is just basically fcked on TTx board probably does not have too many T in his 6x 3b range while addamo has a ton.
This is what prevents him from check jamming on addamo. I agree.
Dan Harrington would have folded QQ pre. Take that, solver!
huh? way too confusing. just go through this wo all the node locking node locking shoulg be used vs omc - not addamo
Horrible they let him run them over lol. Fishes
Cant beleive that epic mullet was bluffed by normal hair,shame on thee Brewer,no longer worth of a mullet,get thee to a barber young man!
Aggression wins
How to counter agression? Be even more agressive lol
Adamo just bluff scared money ppl.
With that haircut, Brewer already lost
Oh shut up, you put chips in and guess
None of these poker channels explain anything in plain language
I would of folded for sure!
bruh Brewer is trash easy call there, Addamo clearly don't have an Ace preflop
Bro solvers are so annoying. Tools for stupid poker players. Addamo is the best because he mix some solver study with heart and playing outside the box. Hate poker new era but the video have a really great work and I need to congratulate you for that
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First!
So bad not Shove QQ on flop.
Agreed. He played it so bad. We can over analyse all we want, but he simply called and bet small to let too many possibilities potentially get there.
So confusing honestly this is too much , poker is going to die out bc it’s boring , gambling and most ppl will lose money and their life playing this versus becoming lawyers n doctors