Current rankings as of right now (prior to season starting): 1: Jared Goff 2: Jordan Love 3: Caleb Williams 4: Sam Darnold/JJ McCarthy Definitely opportunities for this to change this upcoming season (personally rooting for Love, as a Packers fan :)) Sincerely, G.D. Graham
I watched yall during draft season and now I'm here because I saw the rankings posted(Dion). But if we doing hot takes I will quickly be out of here as well
im not being biased but i am a packers fan ... my order would be( love had a much better season statistically ( and that was mainly a half season ( lets see how he does in a full season of connectivity/coheavsivness))) love williams goff mccarthy
@@stonezilla yeah people are just jealous because we've found another hall of fame level qb for the 3rd straight time. We've also made life hell for many popular teams like Dallas and Chicago
@@Sono460that’s so bold to assume he’s a HOF QB after one half of a season. Goff has proved more so far because of consistency, love will probably pass him at some point… simple as that. It’s not envy, it’s using their careers to rank them. It helps that Goffs weakness is when he’s under pressure and he has the best OLine in the country.
@@cornpopsrazor5375 Keenan and Moore, yes but not Odunze. Bears might have bigger names at WR but Packers WR room is pretty good and very deep. But still Bears do have an upper hand at WR i give you that. However Packers have edge over OL and run game by a mile. Bears best OL would sit on bench at GB (maybe Jones or Jenkins can slide in at RG but we have 1st round pick there)
Maybe not having a number 1 is the way to go ever think of that don't know why everyone bashes that if you have a bunch of guys that could break out any game who does the defense look at and I mean jordan love had a better year then any qb in bears history without that #1
@@jaehong1029 Rofl.....please....your coach would blow someone if he could get Jenkins and Odunze......same with the tight ends.....but it is all just academic.....I guess we will find out when they play who gets it done.....should be a great season in the north either way.
I really can’t believe love vs Goff is a discussion. Love has a better arm, mobile, doesn’t turn it over as much, better playmaker. Look at all of Goffs weapons. And love STILL had better numbers. People wanna call purdy a game manager that just stands in the pocket and gets the ball to skill players as quickly as possible, wtf does that make Goff then?
Jared Goff being number one is debatable, because Jordan Love was number 2 I think in touchdowns for his ROOKIE YEAR, and we destroyed the cow girls 48-32 and getting a compliment by PATRICK MAHOMES is really hard to get. J Love is still pretty underrated
love should easily be 1 he was better than goff in year 1 and is much better throwing out of structure and in general tbh, Love also had one of the highest passer rating for a single playoff game ever in his debut game.
I personally think these division channels are very unique when it comes to the NFL, you don't see division rivals talking about their division together much!
I was going to diss Dion but he does have a point but I’m telling you those 12 and three spots could change from week to week because all three of them are great Caleb still has to prove himself and so does Jordan love more than just a half season and Jared is comfortable in Detroit But they have a hard list like this And all depends on injuries and confidence but you guys are fun to listen to
The NFC north unfortunately or fortunately have a lot of good teams as a Packer owner I see each team eating each other I mean, it’ll be fun to watch but there is no clear team to run through each other’s team . Other divisions are not gonna wanna play us
Ridiculous putting Williams at two that’s never played a game in the NFL is just dumb. Good grief that just shows the Lions nutty guy is looking over his shoulder seeing Love rolling up on his Kitty Cats! Lol hilarious
Agree with Dion. The Packers and Jordan Love are highly overrated. The Packers only had 4 games (including the playoffs) where they scored over 30 points and didn't have a wr with over 800 yds, and one player that scored 10 tds. In contrast the Lions scored over 30 points in 11 games, they had a WR and a TE with over 800 yds and 4 players with 10 tds, and the Packers did virtuallly nothing to make their offense better. I don't get it.
As a Packers fan to me it's a tough debate at the moment. In regards to yardage by WR's and TE's, Green Bay has a deep core of receivers and as fans we enjoy not having a star guy. You could tell the play calling opened up compared to Aaron being under center mostly because there was no pressure of having a star receiver. Our TE's are young and both had solid season for rookies. I'm alright with people putting Goff ahead rn, it will all come down to how Love plays this year. We know Goff will have a good season and as a GB fan I'm no doubt hopeful the Love will continue how he was playing in the second half of last year. People don't seem to consider that we had the youngest team in the history of the NFL last season, progression is natural and we have 5 receivers who are all improving, as well as a quarterback who proved his worth last year. Sorry for the ramble, just trying to provide some perspective
@@Coopdog2 Yeah, I know about all of that. The Lions offensive weapons are almost as young as the Packers and a lot more talented. Amon Ra St Brown is 24, Sam La Porta is 23, Jahmyr Gibbs is 22, Jameson Williams is 23, DPJ and Brock Wright are 25, and they already had a top 5 offense and multiple Pro Bowlers who will get better. Not to mention the #1 O-line. Pretty much every positive the Packer have particularly on offense the Lions have plus more. If the Lions had the Packers roster and 2023 record and vice versa, the Packers would be the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl.
@@roderickburrell2060 I'm not arguing that Green Bay's roster has more talent, I'll give Detroit the edge on that. My thing is even with less talent Jordan put up arguably better stats than Goff, especially after the slow start to the season. More TD's, less picks, better running with the ball. I don't want to take away from Goff because he's a perfect fit on Detroit, but I don't think he's clearly better than Love is at the moment. Arguments aside, living in lower Michigan I know the Lions have something special and I'm hoping the division rivalries will start to become more competitive
@@Coopdog2 All of that doesnt matter. Last year the Packers offense scored 42 tds the Lions offense scored 57 (top 3). Last year the Packers offense gained 5,873 yds the Lions gained 6,712.(top 3) In order for Jordan Love by himself to make up that difference he'd have to throw for 4,998 yds and 47 tds while the Lions offense doesn't improve whatsoever. Forget Goff, is Jordan Love, Patrick Mahomes at his best? This is what is wrong with the "but Goff" argument. It completely ignores the Lions actual offense, and how much of a profound leap the Packers would have to make in order to even be equal while the Lions would have to not improve at all.
A) Carlton Davis is probably going to be one of the starters. B) The Lions were 3 points away from going to the Super Bowl with a practice squad cb starting that they picked up in week 10. So yeah, a rooke 1st or even 2nd round pick should play better than a practice squad player, partcularily after 17 games.
@@roderickburrell2060 teams have gotten better. Greenbay by far has progressed over offseason. Supposedly Chicago also. Chicago intercepted Goff 5 times last year.
Love a "better thrower" than Goff??? Goff is slow and not athletic, but he is accurate and smart. There's a reason Goff is always in the top ten of every category.
@@donut5089 Like the interception vs SF that ended the game? The WAS pretty awesome. On the Run, throws into the teeth of the defense, intercepted. Game over. Yeah he's "special".
@@donut5089 Wait, you said Love is great under pressure and on the run. I give you the highest pressure moment where he was on the run... and he failed BIG TIME. Say what you want about Goff, but he didn't do THAT against SF. Reynolds had 2 drops. Gibbs had a fumble. Goff played fine.
Williams will be out of the league in three years love will be a one year wonder and jj will be the second best qb in the divison behind goff by year 2
Dude came out killin in preseason against the starters of a top defense. No veteran tutelage. Named the started from day one. You put your foot in your mouth too soon bud.
Goffs numbers aren't as good b/c we run the ball a TON MORE than GB, simple as that. Love is over rated and overpaid and you'll see them struggle this year
I remember when they played on Thanksgiving and Goff couldn't stop fumbling. Goff needs a loaded team around him to look good. Almost every GM and coach would take Love over Goff
who had more td passes and less ints? love had one less int and 2 more tds with a worse run game than that lions. remind me love fans, which qb had more completion%, yards, and avg qb rating than love? on yeah jared goff. with more film on love hes gonna struggle at least early next year. idk why people are so hyped on love, i get packers why packers fans are but outside them i mean.
Maybe being a 1st year starter with a bunch of 1st and 2nd year recivers (wr and te), a young oline, and a weak running game (aaron jones hurt most of season) had to do with that. Once Love got the chemistry going with his recievers mid season he went on that insane stretch. It wasn't a fluke. Watch the tape before you open your stupid mouth. Jared Goff is just an above average system qb. Goff has no improv when shit hits the pan. Jordan Love is way more talented and has shown it.
@@BillyPenzey Agreed, he had the best PFF score at 92, best QBR 80, best comp% at 70% best TD to int ratio at 21 to 1. Jarred Goofs shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Love as that's disrespectful.
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Current rankings as of right now (prior to season starting):
1: Jared Goff
2: Jordan Love
3: Caleb Williams
4: Sam Darnold/JJ McCarthy
Definitely opportunities for this to change this upcoming season (personally rooting for Love, as a Packers fan :))
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My list:
1. Love
2. Goff
3. Williams
4. Darnold
Everyone's list mid-season
1. Love
2. Williams
3. Goff
4. Mccarthy
The way Dion act you should know he is afraid of Jordan love and Green Bay potential
1. J. Love 2. Goff 3. C. Williams 4. Whoever replaces JJ.
I watched yall during draft season and now I'm here because I saw the rankings posted(Dion). But if we doing hot takes I will quickly be out of here as well
Packers fans like that guy are delusional
Stunt on these fools Bas 😤
im not being biased but i am a packers fan ... my order would be( love had a much better season statistically ( and that was mainly a half season ( lets see how he does in a full season of connectivity/coheavsivness)))
love
williams
goff
mccarthy
Dion, tell me you’re terrified without telling me you’re terrified
No body is afraid, calm down
Some people forget what happened on Thanksgiving and numbers dont lie love should be on top by far
Idk why so much of you hate jordan love bro
A lot of it is pure envy. Refuse to accept that GB did it again. HOF QB for another 10-15 years
It will end very soon when the packers dominate early this season
People only hate him because they hate the packers, he's the chillest qb we've had in 30 years lmao
@@stonezilla yeah people are just jealous because we've found another hall of fame level qb for the 3rd straight time. We've also made life hell for many popular teams like Dallas and Chicago
@@Sono460that’s so bold to assume he’s a HOF QB after one half of a season. Goff has proved more so far because of consistency, love will probably pass him at some point… simple as that. It’s not envy, it’s using their careers to rank them.
It helps that Goffs weakness is when he’s under pressure and he has the best OLine in the country.
idk what Dion was doing there. Love has already shown enough to be respected.
Lol even the Packers supporting cast is better than the Bears
@@jaehong1029 Not their receivers....it isn't debatable ....Odunze would probably be the number one receiver on the Packers roster.
@@cornpopsrazor5375 Keenan and Moore, yes but not Odunze. Bears might have bigger names at WR but Packers WR room is pretty good and very deep. But still Bears do have an upper hand at WR i give you that.
However Packers have edge over OL and run game by a mile. Bears best OL would sit on bench at GB (maybe Jones or Jenkins can slide in at RG but we have 1st round pick there)
Maybe not having a number 1 is the way to go ever think of that don't know why everyone bashes that if you have a bunch of guys that could break out any game who does the defense look at and I mean jordan love had a better year then any qb in bears history without that #1
@@jaehong1029 Rofl.....please....your coach would blow someone if he could get Jenkins and Odunze......same with the tight ends.....but it is all just academic.....I guess we will find out when they play who gets it done.....should be a great season in the north either way.
I really can’t believe love vs Goff is a discussion. Love has a better arm, mobile, doesn’t turn it over as much, better playmaker. Look at all of Goffs weapons. And love STILL had better numbers. People wanna call purdy a game manager that just stands in the pocket and gets the ball to skill players as quickly as possible, wtf does that make Goff then?
Dude Packers fans/supporters are so much smarter than the average fans
I think all of you guys are great because you’re super fans of your team, but you’re also realist and super fans of the game hats off to you guys
Jared Goff being number one is debatable, because Jordan Love was number 2 I think in touchdowns for his ROOKIE YEAR, and we destroyed the cow girls 48-32 and getting a compliment by PATRICK MAHOMES is really hard to get. J Love is still pretty underrated
This wasn’t his rookie year this was his first season starting
@@AydenHoch are you stupid or something? I'm talking about last year, which is his ROOKIE YEAR
Dion doesn't know ball
love should easily be 1 he was better than goff in year 1 and is much better throwing out of structure and in general tbh, Love also had one of the highest passer rating for a single playoff game ever in his debut game.
Dion is talking about “shaking up the rhythm of Jordan Love” lmfao.
Jared Goff is statistically the WORST QB UNDER PRESSURE IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE
Darnold gonna have better numbers than Caleb 😁
I personally think these division channels are very unique when it comes to the NFL, you don't see division rivals talking about their division together much!
Goff, Tua, and Hurts are the 3 most teammate reliant QBs. It isn't a coincidence 1 of the best coaches in the league moved off him to get a ring.
Nonsense dumb dumb
It was meant to be because Detroit wasn't winning anything with the previous quarterback.
Best coaches in league?? Please. He would win for biggest Narcissist.
I was going to diss Dion but he does have a point but I’m telling you those 12 and three spots could change from week to week because all three of them are great Caleb still has to prove himself and so does Jordan love more than just a half season and Jared is comfortable in Detroit But they have a hard list like this And all depends on injuries and confidence but you guys are fun to listen to
Very impressed in just the first 2 min of this video. Very level-headed takes right off the bat. Wild coming from the crazy AFC East RT videos lately!
It seems that us packers fans the only ones who knows ball
very few other fanbases share ball knower fans like us
Very true
You mean the only ones who dont know ball and are completely blinded by your fandom?
@@kjgallagher4 were better than every team in our division stop it 😂
@kjgallagher4 I mean, we've had three franchise qbs. I think we know ball
Anyone here after Love's 3 play touchdown drive... biased as hell.
OK, I went all last year not knowing the moderators name. Could somebody please tell me the moderators name?
The NFC north unfortunately or fortunately have a lot of good teams as a Packer owner I see each team eating each other I mean, it’ll be fun to watch but there is no clear team to run through each other’s team . Other divisions are not gonna wanna play us
Everyone else just use to having hope
Ridiculous putting Williams at two that’s never played a game in the NFL is just dumb. Good grief that just shows the Lions nutty guy is looking over his shoulder seeing Love rolling up on his Kitty Cats! Lol hilarious
They don’t don’t know ball, NFC is ours Go pack go
Love hate fest cringe as hell buddy put caleb at 2
Literally Jared Goff is the only starting Qb that Chicago interceptioned
Agree with Dion. The Packers and Jordan Love are highly overrated. The Packers only had 4 games (including the playoffs) where they scored over 30 points and didn't have a wr with over 800 yds, and one player that scored 10 tds. In contrast the Lions scored over 30 points in 11 games, they had a WR and a TE with over 800 yds and 4 players with 10 tds, and the Packers did virtuallly nothing to make their offense better. I don't get it.
You’ll learn the hard way unfortunately
As a Packers fan to me it's a tough debate at the moment. In regards to yardage by WR's and TE's, Green Bay has a deep core of receivers and as fans we enjoy not having a star guy. You could tell the play calling opened up compared to Aaron being under center mostly because there was no pressure of having a star receiver. Our TE's are young and both had solid season for rookies. I'm alright with people putting Goff ahead rn, it will all come down to how Love plays this year. We know Goff will have a good season and as a GB fan I'm no doubt hopeful the Love will continue how he was playing in the second half of last year. People don't seem to consider that we had the youngest team in the history of the NFL last season, progression is natural and we have 5 receivers who are all improving, as well as a quarterback who proved his worth last year. Sorry for the ramble, just trying to provide some perspective
@@Coopdog2 Yeah, I know about all of that. The Lions offensive weapons are almost as young as the Packers and a lot more talented. Amon Ra St Brown is 24, Sam La Porta is 23, Jahmyr Gibbs is 22, Jameson Williams is 23, DPJ and Brock Wright are 25, and they already had a top 5 offense and multiple Pro Bowlers who will get better. Not to mention the #1 O-line. Pretty much every positive the Packer have particularly on offense the Lions have plus more. If the Lions had the Packers roster and 2023 record and vice versa, the Packers would be the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl.
@@roderickburrell2060 I'm not arguing that Green Bay's roster has more talent, I'll give Detroit the edge on that. My thing is even with less talent Jordan put up arguably better stats than Goff, especially after the slow start to the season. More TD's, less picks, better running with the ball. I don't want to take away from Goff because he's a perfect fit on Detroit, but I don't think he's clearly better than Love is at the moment. Arguments aside, living in lower Michigan I know the Lions have something special and I'm hoping the division rivalries will start to become more competitive
@@Coopdog2 All of that doesnt matter. Last year the Packers offense scored 42 tds the Lions offense scored 57 (top 3). Last year the Packers offense gained 5,873 yds the Lions gained 6,712.(top 3) In order for Jordan Love by himself to make up that difference he'd have to throw for 4,998 yds and 47 tds while the Lions offense doesn't improve whatsoever. Forget Goff, is Jordan Love, Patrick Mahomes at his best? This is what is wrong with the "but Goff" argument. It completely ignores the Lions actual offense, and how much of a profound leap the Packers would have to make in order to even be equal while the Lions would have to not improve at all.
why do you dion have caleb at #2 when he barely have any snaps?
Bears defense picked off all back up QBs
Who has and has a cow by himself on his computer, whining around about someone else’s court, and said new era of football❤❤
What?!!!!!!!! So Detroit is expecting Rookie Dbs to carry them to the Superbowl?
A) Carlton Davis is probably going to be one of the starters. B) The Lions were 3 points away from going to the Super Bowl with a practice squad cb starting that they picked up in week 10. So yeah, a rooke 1st or even 2nd round pick should play better than a practice squad player, partcularily after 17 games.
@@roderickburrell2060 teams have gotten better. Greenbay by far has progressed over offseason. Supposedly Chicago also. Chicago intercepted Goff 5 times last year.
You kicked the team that they’re playing their butts already❤❤
Aaron gave the keys to Jordan love Aaron dad he couldn’t beat the Bears he pull Aaron wrong and Joining love to go over on those bears ❤❤
I had a seizure reading this
Who won didn’t when and tour isn’t young and fast like Jordan, love that money, faster than Tua ✅✅
That Dion/ lions fan list is TOXIC WORK! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Theres a reason love is 5th in odds to win MVP
Is and will be Jordan love for 15 years.
Dion needs to be ousted. The rest of you at least don’t appear to be as biased.
It's simple. 1.Love 2.Goff 3.Williams 4.Mccarthy. No question. He out played Goff easily last year.
You are a McCarthy hater 😂
@@trey11317😭
Jordan love is way faster than Tua right there that’s why he said he didn’t wanna ask him nothing ✅✅
Jordan, Jared Caleb and Minnesota. He's a fan of Aaron Rodgers never heard him say he's Packers fan.
Dolphins hated her people have better players then can swim or sink even though they know the people not dolphins ❤❤
I mean, people hate themselves I messed my message up again, talking into this mic and series, saying what she wants to say not what I want to say.❤❤
I mean Packers already hit the other opponents, but like it was nothing, I screwed up on my message❤❤
And you’re a dolphin fan a Tua fan❤❤
when jordan love kills the nfc north for many years to come dion i hope you see this, you gonna regret putting him at 3.. the disrespect is crazy
@@deshundillard1337 ain’t killing no one
Dion is lost
jordon love will be best in division delusional
Way better than Tua ✅✅
Jordan Love is gonna own this division
Lmfaoo
Bears defense will have your QBs running This is our year with rookie QB
Just mad I can't watch the packers game in a couple hours bc nfl Sunday ticket doesn't care about me
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Love a "better thrower" than Goff??? Goff is slow and not athletic, but he is accurate and smart. There's a reason Goff is always in the top ten of every category.
Part of throwing involes throwing under pressure/on the run. Love destroys Goff at that
Love can make throws Goff can't. Goff has no improvability. Goff is terrible under pressure. Jordan Love is excellent under pressure.
@@donut5089 Like the interception vs SF that ended the game? The WAS pretty awesome. On the Run, throws into the teeth of the defense, intercepted. Game over. Yeah he's "special".
@bradpirochta9293 remind me where the hell jared goff was that whole entire 2nd half of the nfc championship?
@@donut5089 Wait, you said Love is great under pressure and on the run. I give you the highest pressure moment where he was on the run... and he failed BIG TIME.
Say what you want about Goff, but he didn't do THAT against SF. Reynolds had 2 drops. Gibbs had a fumble. Goff played fine.
Lol lions guy doesn't watch football.... shocker lol
On no planet is love better than goff.
Williams will be out of the league in three years love will be a one year wonder and jj will be the second best qb in the divison behind goff by year 2
Dude came out killin in preseason against the starters of a top defense. No veteran tutelage. Named the started from day one.
You put your foot in your mouth too soon bud.
Goffs numbers aren't as good b/c we run the ball a TON MORE than GB, simple as that. Love is over rated and overpaid and you'll see them struggle this year
do you know what the nfl stats for goff have been for the past 2 years? hes been top 5 statistically over love last year too.
I remember when they played on Thanksgiving and Goff couldn't stop fumbling. Goff needs a loaded team around him to look good. Almost every GM and coach would take Love over Goff
Take away that excellent oline and Goff becomes a goof. Jordan Love can do more with less
who had more td passes and less ints? love had one less int and 2 more tds with a worse run game than that lions. remind me love fans, which qb had more completion%, yards, and avg qb rating than love? on yeah jared goff. with more film on love hes gonna struggle at least early next year. idk why people are so hyped on love, i get packers why packers fans are but outside them i mean.
He’s way better and younger bud. Goff is at his ceiling
Love was straight up the best nfl qb for the second half of the regular season
Maybe being a 1st year starter with a bunch of 1st and 2nd year recivers (wr and te), a young oline, and a weak running game (aaron jones hurt most of season) had to do with that. Once Love got the chemistry going with his recievers mid season he went on that insane stretch. It wasn't a fluke. Watch the tape before you open your stupid mouth. Jared Goff is just an above average system qb. Goff has no improv when shit hits the pan. Jordan Love is way more talented and has shown it.
@@BillyPenzey Agreed, he had the best PFF score at 92, best QBR 80, best comp% at 70% best TD to int ratio at 21 to 1. Jarred Goofs shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Love as that's disrespectful.