Ironically, the statement used to imply they don't care about animals--in choosing to save laptops and hard drives over their cats during a fire--just further shines a light on their overall view of animals. I would 100% choose my dog over my computer if there was a fire and I could only save one. Even if I *could* save both, my dog would be the *first* thing I would try to save. Just the thought of her being scared or struggling to breathe or getting burned from the heat breaks my heart. Zrcalo seems to think that by indicating that they were not concerned with the safety of their cats, it demonstrates that they don't have the cats on their mind. In reality it just seems like they don't love their animals. If anything it more implies that if they can't see the creature as a sexual object then they have no real use for it. Just... showing that they see the animals as disposable.
It sounds like there's a bunch of stuff on thay computer more important to them than a living breathing creature. Honestly, it's gross to think that it might cross their mind that a pet is more easily replaced than what is surely a collection of degenerate imagery. Nice to see you around, Ponder! Love your stuff!
I wouldn't even think about my laptop in that situation. Years ago I acted stupid and almost got run over by a car just because my brain zeroed on my dog who ran off in the middle of the road. Prioritizing the safety of your pet should be natural. Not only does the statement shows that they don't actually care about the life of animals, but it also implies that there's incriminating stuff in the laptop/hard drive. Most likely zooph*lia and CP, since it's very common for animal fckers to be into kids as well.
A year too late to reply, but I find it funny that he made a video response trying to be all dramatic, saying how all the accusations have been driving him insane, and that he's like "Ideas never die" and that he will "exist" for as long as he breathes. Yea- NO. Zrcalo is like that Twitter and RUclips don't immediately lift a finger because his channel be slit like he did his own birds.
Exactly what I was thinking. It shows they see animals as objects of pleasure rather than living, breathing creatures. They don’t care if what they do hurts the animals.
Let it be known, if you are dealing with the same urges these hellspawns have, *THERE IS HELP AND YOU CAN GET IT.* Do not act on these urges and get rid of them as soon as humanly possible. There are people who can help you, you simply need to reach out and *listen* to them.
Listen, I share the same sentiment. However, I see people just bashing others, that honestly want help. I hate animal abusers. However, if someone says they have those desires but never acted, they still get condemned. That shouldn't be the case. They said it for a reason. They probably trust you, and are trying to reach out for someone to help them through this. Sometimes people need guidance, not hatred. I know its hard to see past those degenerats that do not want help, but they aren't them. If they want help, they clearly don't want to harm anything. So give them advice. Sometimes people just want another person to assure them that getting help is the right thing to do. All I'm saying is, please just hear them out before pushing them away. You could save both an animal from abuse and a person from doing somthing they'll regret for their entire life
@@thenormalformalandhormonal8531 (edit disclaimer i use hypothetical "you" a lot here i do not mean YOU i mean the concept of someone who i would be speaking to, i realize how that would be confusing) i hear you, a public twitter space is not the place to be sharing those thoughts. you should also never share those thoughts in a remotely joking or casual manner. if you genuinely want help, and wish to share with your closest friends i understand, and i think if one my closest friends came to me really genuinely wanting help for a psychosexual disorder i would be there to help them, but that is things you need to keep incredibly personal and private, both for others and your own safety and comfort. *people do not OWE YOU the time of day* for anything, even if you want help subjects like these are vilified within good reason. if you understand how dark and upsetting these thoughts/urges are, you must also understand why people would be upset to hear them. of course, if someone needs help, i would never tell them not to try and get it, but it has to be from someone you trust wholeheartedly. and ultimately *they need to seek professional help.* what a friend can offer is valuable, but it will never be actual treatment.
I want note that taxidermy and vulture culture itself (which is basically just collecting dead specimens and the taxidermy itself) isnt bad in of itself. We use taxidermy to make the dead look alive again and help give pet owners something to remember if they decide that they want their beloved pet still around as a physical memory. The issue with Zrcalo and their taxidermy is the disgusting idea that they most likely found it arousing. This is coming based off the fact that they drew sn*ff. The vulture culture community look down on these type of people. Treating the dead with care and respect is the backbone of that community. So please remember not to lump that vial person with the other taxidermists. We are not that way.
Taxidermy has been practiced for a long LoNG time in many different human cultures. It may be weird to you but you are objectively right, the fails are so fucking funny 💀
Honestly, gore art isn’t inherently that bad, depending on context. If it was intended to be horror media, it would be no different from any other horror media. It’s the fact that this art is intended to be fetish art-in tandem with other predatory actions taken by the artist-that raises red flags.
When bro said “I don’t leave myself alone with an animal” like the urge to fuck animals is too powerful for him to overcome, i recoiled full on disgust
Yup. That call was not fun. It was filled with deflection, avoidance, and generally being a dishonest. Seeing Zrcalo get called out with solid, irrefutable evidence though? THAT is letting me have a fun time right now.
The way he said "Where do I go from here?"... as if he isn't in his 30s. Call a helpline. Tell them about this shit. GET HELP instead od basically saying "it is what it is" So glad when you started ripping into that scum. They are beyond help. All they want to do is be treated like a victim and avoid properly addressing how awful they are.
Heyy I spoke in that twitter space. This whole situation is a shitshow. All they did was deflect and victimize themselves for hooursss. Hearing Shark say "Telling me to get help is the same as telling me to KMS" in real time and the immediate shitshow in the reactions as a result was crazy lmfao
@@AnomalousBlake Literally the most annoying type of degenerate are the ones that pretend to be pro recovery. You can't be pro recovery if you're also pro offense.
Dude how can they full on say “Hey btw do not trust me if it’s just me and an animal alone in a room” and still think they are the sane one in the situation!?
Even if you really and I mean really just love dogs you don’t gotta fuck them. Like, I really really love dudes! I don’t SA every dude I’m alone with, it’s not that hard to not have sex.
The thing that I hate is that, as someone who does a lot of nsfw art on twitter and posts monsters screwing people, the separation of fantasy and reality has never been muddied. That call at 12:00 with that person talking about “not being able to be alone with animals” sickens me. Genuinely. That person is horrible. Not only are they using the furry and nsfw art community as a shield for themselves, they’re saying that it somehow makes them unable to be alone with animals becuse their compulsion is so bad that they are GENUINELY convinced that they would suddenly just SOMEHOW end up doing something with a real animal as if that can just happen… It’s so bizarre and wrong. After doing this type of art for over a year now I can confidently say I’ve never had a single compulsion or drive to suddenly hurt and betray my dogs like that. I don’t think most people would. The fact that they’re using multiple communities as their blame for their paraphilia is straight up wrong and abhorrent. That’s THEIR choice. And they’re choosing to be bad.
This is why I say 2 things 1 if you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality you shouldn't be anywhere near the subject matter to begin with and 2 I live by a very simple rule, Is it real? No? then I don't care jerk off to it wank off to it do whatever you want hell out even Join you, Why because it's not real it's a fantasy it's not something that should be brought into real life and that's fine as long as you keep it in that fantasy and not spread it around into actual reality. Is it real? Yes? Then throw that asshole into a rocket and give him a choice, deep space or the sun. It's because of that that you drew A-line in the sand and crossed it then you don't deserve mercy, the only mercy you deserve his God's mercy and I am fresh out of doing that. People who will cross that line will do it again over and over again to the point where they need to be removed from society. Stick them on a deserted island or whatever so long as they can never come back or even reproduce. But that leads to another problem I guess, because they can't reproduce all they can do is recruit.
The ‘monsters screwing humans’ thing you mentioned is called Teratophilia. I only know because I’m in that community also. Never have I ever wanted to literally go monster hunting with the goal of fucking mothman or some shit. It’s weird, it really is.
I miss when the fandom wasn't like this, when people like them were immediately outcasted and barred from attending any conventions/events, But recently it seems everyone has become spineless and lets them run around freely and the few that actually try to actively expose and remove them from the fandom either get discouraged by Trolls or they just get tired of it and quit but for those of you that continue this fight, Keep at it!
@@jungleinsectspikewall4474 The fandom started being fucked up after 2007 some popufurs of that time got exposed for being zoos/pedos and everything went down hill from then on and the fandom became less and less supported but it's slowly "Very" slowly becoming similar to what it used to be people are starting to push out all the weirdos again finally and i'm hoping that it will one day be better then it is currently.
Your passive aggression in the calls is fucking hilarious. I hate people who think they can side with people like us, the queers, when their sexuality is "animal fucker".
Ngl I hate calling myself a furry bc of ppl like him… don’t get me wrong, I truly appreciate the talent and openness the community has to offer, but the fact that there’s probably ppl like him and Sappho still lurking around the community without any repercussion scares the hell out of me
Thank you for exposing who ZrCalo really is, it's sad we let people like this into the furry fandom. Especially someone who is likely attracted to 17 to 18 year olds like ZrCalo. He's orbited several people and has manipulated multiple people as well. However sadly, this won't be the first or last time someone like him will be exposed for his vile, reprehensible actions towards not just minors but also the people he's targeted and harassed.
This dude is just a normal furry though. Who knew a culture composed of the gays and Lola rabbit fuckers was degenerates all the way down? Shocking, truly, said no one.
They're most the community, they run the boards, the run the sites, my brother in Christ they let you into the community to look innocent. You chose to go into a space with Nazia, zoophiles, and every other kind of predators like what did you expect
Just for some reference that "The Nekonomicon" person (15:38 , fox pfp) is 18 dating a 16 year old that is a zoophile. He claims to be in support of helping people with paraphilias, but actively participates in their communities. Also, Resi is a queen.
25:52 I've seen Lio get mad, but I've never seen him get _that_ mad and holy shit I felt my spine shrivel up and I wasn't even there when this confrontation took place 🤣
Even if everything was on the up-and-up, there are some things you just don't do as an adult. Private communications and/or running accounts with minors without any kind of legal oversight or parental involvement is one of them. There's a reason why contracts for people that work with children will usually restrict how they are able to interact with said children.
This guy made me spit my drink when he said, "I AM NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT THAT THIS GUY ADMITTED THAT HE WAS A ZOOPHILE 10 MINUTES AGO." HOLY SHIT. LANZA REALLY ROASTING THEM.
31:27 True asf. I made an alt Twitter account and interviewed about 5 of them, in order to make a vid, but I just couldn't, I wanted to try and understand why they're so messed up but everyone single one was more interested in describing their terrible actions or distancing themselves from the growing number of "odd ones out", yk the actually bad ones. So I just gave up and reported them all because Christ it was hard to sleep after reading some of the stuff they did.
Seeing you talk about how all these twisted creatures congregate with each other made me think of Turkey Tom talking about QuantumKitty where he says that researching any one of these zoophiles leads one to an interconnected web of them and thats the part that always fucks him up the most. To expose one person, you expose a whole community, and thats the real danger and difficulty of doing it.
I remember watching all this go down cause Trasphobic Ls went after one of my friends over a disagreement on a character. I knew something was up but I had no idea it went this deep.
Watching as the Zrcalo rabbit hole go deeper and deeper is just, WOW. I hope this dude goes to prison and that Elite gets help. Great video! Edit: Yes! I was in the video for like two seconds. For context, I wasn't ever a Zrcalo supporter. I joined the space to ask questions because Zrcalo is a creep. I ended up getting roped into becoming a mediator.
I feel gross for knowing this person, because on my old account on Twitter, I was very much openly against Pedophiles and Zoophiles. This person came to me, apparently very interested in a lot of my thoughts on the matter. And of course, I never saw this side of the person. The only thing I found out about, was the questionable art. And I didn't think much of it at the time. They seemed like they cared about me. But the moment I asked the real questions at times, they'd clam up. And get involved in Drama I didn't care about. Because at the end of the day, I was on Twitter for the memes, some art, (Nothing like Zrcarlo lmao), and to just chat with a few people. The few I gave a shit about. And I understand what it was like to be exploited growing up. But then I find all this shit out in this video... I'm glad I got away from them when I did. But I just feel gross I at one point considered them equal. They do not deserve that decency after all this bullshit they did. I feel nothing for them now, and glad I got away when I did. Any Empathy I may have had for them, had long since dried... because no rational person involves themselves in that much drama and has nothing to hide. And I'm glad I trusted my intuition. But just... Wow, ya know? My skin is crawling from the disgust I feel. Lanza? You did good.
so true. sometimes i feel like a bad idea but then i go on the internet and feel a bit better. at least i’m not attracted to animals or children or dead bodies
@@creamtheskunk7073 someone that was close to Coyote fucked them over and hid a LOT of dirty laundry, then tried to take Coyote with them despite him being innocent. LioConvoy and everyone else in that call are better friends and saw through the bs, and now things are going to be aired out, probably in full soon.
I noticed how the transphobes L twitter acc was interacting with and/or following several zoophile accounts but never mentioned anything because I only had like 20 followers 😭
OMG I knew about this situation, I was one of the people that was spreading the google doc as much as possible. I never thought I'd see this situation be brought up on your channel thats crazy XD
I think it's weird that the fact that this person did taxidermy always makes it onto these lists, like "this person dabbled in a legitimate hobby and career that's considered kind of creepy, then they were a nazi zoophile"
@@tokumillennium5162 Zrcalo is the main owner though, It's best to unfollow the account and follow one of the new alternatives, like the one with the robot jones pfp
This was an unexpected rabbit hole to dive down, but I'm here for it. LagoVirt, Coyote Lovely, LioConvoy and now Lanza... these subs are paying off for info on people I should be avoiding by any means necessary.
I sometimes worry that I'm a bad person when misspelling a word in a sentence, thus changing it entirely to something completely different. Or when I decide to put on the Sass-snapback when dealing with people that annoy me. Good to see that I am a actually 100%, and absolutely thriving in my planter. Like, damn dude, I'd kick him straight in the perineum for all this shit. Interesting rabbit hole, and I hope you keep them coming. o7
I fucking loved; "This is why I prefer coyote lovely over you and this kinda reminds me why." Which is legit the fattest fucking oxymoron or contradiction or whatever word fail that was, cus Coyote Lovely doesn't like Zoos either, and would very likely pull no punches during the chat, and very much go harder than Lanza...
I found out about him because of Caswarfox I was watching his live talking about zrcalo out of nowhere Valerie popped in defending zrcalo a little bit I wished I screenshot that part
That guy doesn't have a clue that if you are attracted to animals, please for the love of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit, please get a therapist, these behaviors don't pop outta nowhere, they always start from somewhere.
You always go a great job researching all your vids ontop of them being very entertaining and informative thanks for helping my day a bit and keep it up
@@greenedleaf2481 no. They're not gonna do that shit and you clearly have nothing else to do but harass people in every freaking comment reply. Wtf is your problem. Idk how someone's hobby is just offensive to you. Stay mad then.
Actually gasped out loud when this randomly popped up on my dash. Knew Zrcalo waaaayyyy back in the day. Used to actually admire him! Needless to say that was long before he went off the deep end with any of this crazy stuff. (Or if not, long before any of us knew about it.) I thought the drama he caused in our shared community back then was bad enough but it's got nothing at all on any of this stuff. Every now and then over the years I've stumbled across his presence again in the most random furry-adjacent places like some weird accidental stalker. And here we are again.
I knew him ~10 years ago from that community and kept a watch on his art sites for a while afterwards. Kept hoping he would somehow turn around when he first started getting involved with shady groups. But after a year or so of that all I could do was I just watch from a further distance as this guy dug his own hole and got involved in increasingly awful and crazy crap I couldn’t even wrap my head around. I think I still have a line in some secret santa info page on Wajas saying I’d love art from him from ages ago. It’s been surreal seeing a guy who sparked a lot of my interest in furry stuff from a small site so long ago just continuously become something worse and worse.
I’ve been a furry for about 5 years and since I stay away from twitter I don’t get into any bit of drama, so maybe staying away from twitter will up your chances of not getting into…disgusting stuff like this. (I feel like going on twitter now it seems pretty safe)
Honestly it seems the right way to go. I just enjoy wholesome art from fantastic artists while steering clear of the major weirdos of the community by not going to where they congregate
Speaking of Taxidermy--- A friend had an old suit that he couldn't fit in very well anymore but it was his first hand-made suit so he wouldn't sell it so me and him "taxidermied" it (put a bunch of cotton in after randomly posing the suit) It was fun
This drama will be always be on the back of my mind. Though, I barely help with information. The only thing I did is submit a screenshot of Aiya posting artwork of their sona and Zrcalo's sona hugging each other with the caption "Us against the world" Luckily, they posted it on their account, and shows that a common tactic for groomers is make their victim believe the world is against them. To this day, I feel like I helped somehow
Also, that dog base everyone is using by SmolMidget/VerticallyChallenged and as far as I'm aware, they don't support this kind of behavior. I think they'd be pretty shocked to know their base was used by people like this
I used to like this person's tweet a lot so this is a surprising! I didn't know they were involved in a controversy, no wonder i haven't seen their tweets in the last days
I knew something was fucking fishy when Zrcalo kept fucking around with Sappho. Warned everyone not to follow the TransphobicLs because it was such a cheap way to bank off Keffals.
Your videos are really well made, I'd like to see you make a video on the lumistarbun situation because people in the art community don't pay attention to them anymore even though they've done terrible things in the past year again, they scammed people $1000 by faking cancer on a Vtuber account and never gave the money back and still proceed to harass people
I'm surrpised it took this long for so much to come out. Like, as soon as ZSIS was a thing that shit turned into a qiuck ring for zoophiles to find each way too fast, and the fact the moderators were fine with that is depressing.
The call is just so gross on how they try to just... shrug off everything like its whatever? I'm cracking up over you being like... Fuck nawh we ain't doing this today.
Transphobes will jump to any excuse. Same mentality as when racists collect videos of black people committing crimes. They jump to any and all anecdotes to vilify whatever they're bigoted against. Ignoring actual statistics.
pain. seeing my ex, aiya, having gone down that whole crap, pain. how did i ever stay with aiya for that long. funny how they were doing all this behind my back and then brought up to me. funny funny. and now i cant even get away from all that crap
I had come across them in the Fursonapins community and only now finding out everything about their past and why they got banned. Wild, thank you for a great video.
"i take precautions i dont let myself be alone with an animal" Could you imagine if like a straight guy said like "i dont let myself be alone with a woman"
some of the fandom can get pretty scary. a lot of furries are just people who like anthro animals, and are usually nice, zoo/pedo hating people. don’t feel like you have to abandon your interests just because a minority of a group is disgusting, just make sure you’re safe =3
Furry community seems very large and broad so it be weird not to find some that were fucked up. I don't believe the worse parts a majority, though. Also, if you never encountered it then you must do a good job in not getting involved with the fucked up parts of the community, so I say keep on doing what you're doing.
I would like to add that part of the reason Transphobic Ls got so popular so quickly is probably due to the fact that there's been such a huge amount of transphobia lately. With people claiming all trans people are child groomers and perverts. It's added to people getting so incredibly mad about the situation from what I've seen
The large amount of transphobia recently probably has to do with the fact that the LGBT community is the most hated minority in the world, but from what I’m seeing from Transphobic Ls isn’t changing anything
I found this video at 10pm last night while drunk, and while looking at the title and thumbnail fell into a mental spiral of how absurd furry drama is, and just started crazy-laughing for about 10 minutes. By the time i calmed down I decided to watch the video, and the first 10 seconds had me in stitches for another 5 minutes 😂 I wasn't laughing once the video got going.
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Ironically, the statement used to imply they don't care about animals--in choosing to save laptops and hard drives over their cats during a fire--just further shines a light on their overall view of animals.
I would 100% choose my dog over my computer if there was a fire and I could only save one. Even if I *could* save both, my dog would be the *first* thing I would try to save. Just the thought of her being scared or struggling to breathe or getting burned from the heat breaks my heart.
Zrcalo seems to think that by indicating that they were not concerned with the safety of their cats, it demonstrates that they don't have the cats on their mind. In reality it just seems like they don't love their animals. If anything it more implies that if they can't see the creature as a sexual object then they have no real use for it.
Just... showing that they see the animals as disposable.
It sounds like there's a bunch of stuff on thay computer more important to them than a living breathing creature. Honestly, it's gross to think that it might cross their mind that a pet is more easily replaced than what is surely a collection of degenerate imagery.
Nice to see you around, Ponder! Love your stuff!
I wouldn't even think about my laptop in that situation. Years ago I acted stupid and almost got run over by a car just because my brain zeroed on my dog who ran off in the middle of the road. Prioritizing the safety of your pet should be natural. Not only does the statement shows that they don't actually care about the life of animals, but it also implies that there's incriminating stuff in the laptop/hard drive. Most likely zooph*lia and CP, since it's very common for animal fckers to be into kids as well.
A year too late to reply, but I find it funny that he made a video response trying to be all dramatic, saying how all the accusations have been driving him insane, and that he's like "Ideas never die" and that he will "exist" for as long as he breathes. Yea- NO. Zrcalo is like that Twitter and RUclips don't immediately lift a finger because his channel be slit like he did his own birds.
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Exactly what I was thinking. It shows they see animals as objects of pleasure rather than living, breathing creatures. They don’t care if what they do hurts the animals.
"I started bullying him" iconic
Yea bring a gun fight in a fist fight to kill the bully
Abp: always bully perverts.
he himself is also a furry and thus needs to be bullied as well.
@@greenedleaf2481 😮
Truly an iconic quote
Let it be known, if you are dealing with the same urges these hellspawns have, *THERE IS HELP AND YOU CAN GET IT.* Do not act on these urges and get rid of them as soon as humanly possible. There are people who can help you, you simply need to reach out and *listen* to them.
Everyone deserves that chance to get help!
Listen, I share the same sentiment. However, I see people just bashing others, that honestly want help. I hate animal abusers. However, if someone says they have those desires but never acted, they still get condemned. That shouldn't be the case. They said it for a reason. They probably trust you, and are trying to reach out for someone to help them through this. Sometimes people need guidance, not hatred. I know its hard to see past those degenerats that do not want help, but they aren't them. If they want help, they clearly don't want to harm anything. So give them advice. Sometimes people just want another person to assure them that getting help is the right thing to do. All I'm saying is, please just hear them out before pushing them away. You could save both an animal from abuse and a person from doing somthing they'll regret for their entire life
And those people are not your peers online. Seek professional help.
@@thenormalformalandhormonal8531 (edit disclaimer i use hypothetical "you" a lot here i do not mean YOU i mean the concept of someone who i would be speaking to, i realize how that would be confusing) i hear you, a public twitter space is not the place to be sharing those thoughts. you should also never share those thoughts in a remotely joking or casual manner. if you genuinely want help, and wish to share with your closest friends i understand, and i think if one my closest friends came to me really genuinely wanting help for a psychosexual disorder i would be there to help them, but that is things you need to keep incredibly personal and private, both for others and your own safety and comfort. *people do not OWE YOU the time of day* for anything, even if you want help subjects like these are vilified within good reason. if you understand how dark and upsetting these thoughts/urges are, you must also understand why people would be upset to hear them.
of course, if someone needs help, i would never tell them not to try and get it, but it has to be from someone you trust wholeheartedly. and ultimately *they need to seek professional help.* what a friend can offer is valuable, but it will never be actual treatment.
also FYI to anyone reading: no, intrusive thoughts don't make you a zoophile, dw.
I want note that taxidermy and vulture culture itself (which is basically just collecting dead specimens and the taxidermy itself) isnt bad in of itself.
We use taxidermy to make the dead look alive again and help give pet owners something to remember if they decide that they want their beloved pet still around as a physical memory.
The issue with Zrcalo and their taxidermy is the disgusting idea that they most likely found it arousing. This is coming based off the fact that they drew sn*ff.
The vulture culture community look down on these type of people. Treating the dead with care and respect is the backbone of that community.
So please remember not to lump that vial person with the other taxidermists. We are not that way.
taxidermy is meant to preserve. french kissing it would be a mortal sin against nature and ruin the preservation process if I'm not mistaken
Agreed.
Taxidermy is weird.
But the taxidermy fails are a hoot
Taxidermy has been practiced for a long LoNG time in many different human cultures. It may be weird to you
but you are objectively right, the fails are so fucking funny 💀
Honestly, gore art isn’t inherently that bad, depending on context. If it was intended to be horror media, it would be no different from any other horror media. It’s the fact that this art is intended to be fetish art-in tandem with other predatory actions taken by the artist-that raises red flags.
I love Lio’s reaction to the truth. “DOES IT SOUND LIKE I AM HAVING A FUN TIME!?” Is just so primordially angry. Its beautiful
I disagree, it’s really disorienting when he screams and it makes him seem immature
@@Bocqurant i like that he's honest. it's just raw emotion of having to put up with these freaks.
@@manboy4720Lio is a fucking weirdo who yells at minors. Be for real
This aged well 💀
This aged like milk
When bro said “I don’t leave myself alone with an animal” like the urge to fuck animals is too powerful for him to overcome, i recoiled full on disgust
the Clog
I was in a doctors office and wondered why I was getting any kind of help and making it harder for these degens.
Oh wow its cloog!!!
cloog takes a w
Yeah I hope he gets 7275371884727 years of jail
It's so weird with furry drama cause it's like: "This is a Necrophile, Pedophile, Zoo, " and then their pfp is a Lil fox goin :p
Real 😭😭😭
Yup. That call was not fun. It was filled with deflection, avoidance, and generally being a dishonest.
Seeing Zrcalo get called out with solid, irrefutable evidence though? THAT is letting me have a fun time right now.
remind me never to piss you off Lio. I would actually die of a heart attack if you ever yelled at me like that
Didn’t expect to see Lio here.
@@WiFiDown37811 I think I'd cry if someone yelled at me like that, he is scary! Guess that is why he is a lion, really knows how to roar. XD
The way he said "Where do I go from here?"... as if he isn't in his 30s. Call a helpline. Tell them about this shit. GET HELP instead od basically saying "it is what it is"
So glad when you started ripping into that scum.
They are beyond help. All they want to do is be treated like a victim and avoid properly addressing how awful they are.
@@WiFiDown37811 weak as hell lol
Heyy I spoke in that twitter space. This whole situation is a shitshow. All they did was deflect and victimize themselves for hooursss. Hearing Shark say "Telling me to get help is the same as telling me to KMS" in real time and the immediate shitshow in the reactions as a result was crazy lmfao
Twitter suck Elon musk best
@@greenedleaf2481 The dickeating crazy 😯!
Ok?
So weird that he claims to be "pro recovery" but also claims that telling him to get help is ableist
@@AnomalousBlake Literally the most annoying type of degenerate are the ones that pretend to be pro recovery. You can't be pro recovery if you're also pro offense.
Dude how can they full on say “Hey btw do not trust me if it’s just me and an animal alone in a room” and still think they are the sane one in the situation!?
Even if you really and I mean really just love dogs you don’t gotta fuck them. Like, I really really love dudes! I don’t SA every dude I’m alone with, it’s not that hard to not have sex.
The thing that I hate is that, as someone who does a lot of nsfw art on twitter and posts monsters screwing people, the separation of fantasy and reality has never been muddied.
That call at 12:00 with that person talking about “not being able to be alone with animals” sickens me. Genuinely. That person is horrible. Not only are they using the furry and nsfw art community as a shield for themselves, they’re saying that it somehow makes them unable to be alone with animals becuse their compulsion is so bad that they are GENUINELY convinced that they would suddenly just SOMEHOW end up doing something with a real animal as if that can just happen…
It’s so bizarre and wrong.
After doing this type of art for over a year now I can confidently say I’ve never had a single compulsion or drive to suddenly hurt and betray my dogs like that. I don’t think most people would.
The fact that they’re using multiple communities as their blame for their paraphilia is straight up wrong and abhorrent. That’s THEIR choice. And they’re choosing to be bad.
This is why I say 2 things 1 if you can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality you shouldn't be anywhere near the subject matter to begin with and 2 I live by a very simple rule, Is it real? No? then I don't care jerk off to it wank off to it do whatever you want hell out even Join you, Why because it's not real it's a fantasy it's not something that should be brought into real life and that's fine as long as you keep it in that fantasy and not spread it around into actual reality. Is it real? Yes? Then throw that asshole into a rocket and give him a choice, deep space or the sun. It's because of that that you drew A-line in the sand and crossed it then you don't deserve mercy, the only mercy you deserve his God's mercy and I am fresh out of doing that. People who will cross that line will do it again over and over again to the point where they need to be removed from society. Stick them on a deserted island or whatever so long as they can never come back or even reproduce. But that leads to another problem I guess, because they can't reproduce all they can do is recruit.
The ‘monsters screwing humans’ thing you mentioned is called Teratophilia. I only know because I’m in that community also.
Never have I ever wanted to literally go monster hunting with the goal of fucking mothman or some shit. It’s weird, it really is.
@@vincentsaysno1510 I mean mothman do be kinda thick tho /s
@@vincentsaysno1510 Imagine not wanting to see what BIgfoot does with his big feet smh. 😔
@@SecuR0M Is there a rule 34 for BigFoot feet pics. Someone needs to capitalise on that.
Thank you so much lanza for hearing our stories!
im so glad theres a video to show how horrible zrcalo is, I'm 3 minutes in and horrified already
@@mintt_tiramisu fr cant believe they got away with all of this for so long
@@lucielno9605 it doesnt even get into what elite has done to me
@@shasha6337 cringeass picture
@@mintt_tiramisu so true audry
I swear this man helps me to be more careful online for like a reminder to be careful to who you be talking to this man has my respect
Meh just learn some side effect of those stuffs and you will anti something
I miss when the fandom wasn't like this, when people like them were immediately outcasted and barred from attending any conventions/events, But recently it seems everyone has become spineless and lets them run around freely and the few that actually try to actively expose and remove them from the fandom either get discouraged by Trolls or they just get tired of it and quit but for those of you that continue this fight, Keep at it!
This is what isolation and quarantine does to people, I guess.(aka going on Twitter and becoming a weird ass person and losing braincells)
Ok and when was that period? I remember it always having a bad fucked up side and just cuz we see allot more now doesnt mean it wasnt always there
@@jungleinsectspikewall4474 The fandom started being fucked up after 2007 some popufurs of that time got exposed for being zoos/pedos and everything went down hill from then on and the fandom became less and less supported but it's slowly "Very" slowly becoming similar to what it used to be people are starting to push out all the weirdos again finally and i'm hoping that it will one day be better then it is currently.
You mean back in the late 80s?
@@shaunmaness5391 Yeah
In those years that I know you, I never would have guessed that you'd have a Raid Sponsorship haha. Genuinely happy for you dude, keep on going!
We stay winning
It's a milestone of it's own now, youtube might as-well hand out "raid shadow legends" play-buttons.
Raid pays really well from what I know, Raid.
Right, getting that coin!
Lanza raiding Shadowy (imfamous) legends of the internet
Your passive aggression in the calls is fucking hilarious.
I hate people who think they can side with people like us, the queers, when their sexuality is "animal fucker".
i hate people who think they can side with us (queer furry) when they are just animal fucker felons
Both the LGBTQ+ and furry fandom HATE zoophiles and pedophiles.
@V I Λ please elaborate with your shitty AI profile pic.
"the queers"
get an actual identity
@@ambmamb8370 it's a spectrum.
Ngl I hate calling myself a furry bc of ppl like him… don’t get me wrong, I truly appreciate the talent and openness the community has to offer, but the fact that there’s probably ppl like him and Sappho still lurking around the community without any repercussion scares the hell out of me
The "I really really want fursona pins" made me propell backwards into my wall.
Thank you for exposing who ZrCalo really is, it's sad we let people like this into the furry fandom. Especially someone who is likely attracted to 17 to 18 year olds like ZrCalo. He's orbited several people and has manipulated multiple people as well. However sadly, this won't be the first or last time someone like him will be exposed for his vile, reprehensible actions towards not just minors but also the people he's targeted and harassed.
Change your profile picture if you don’t want to be him
@@greenedleaf2481 yout logic is absolutely dumb just befause someone from ur fandom is a pedo doesnt mean everyone in that fandom is a pedo
This dude is just a normal furry though. Who knew a culture composed of the gays and Lola rabbit fuckers was degenerates all the way down? Shocking, truly, said no one.
@@greenedleaf2481 Lio Convoy uses a lion to represent himself and Lanza uses an anthro cat as his avatar, yet conveniantly you never went after them.
They're most the community, they run the boards, the run the sites, my brother in Christ they let you into the community to look innocent. You chose to go into a space with Nazia, zoophiles, and every other kind of predators like what did you expect
Just for some reference that "The Nekonomicon" person (15:38 , fox pfp) is 18 dating a 16 year old that is a zoophile. He claims to be in support of helping people with paraphilias, but actively participates in their communities. Also, Resi is a queen.
Yikes that is all kinds of fucked up
Marvelous....
Also, Neko is a pedophile.
And he thinks it's justified that he is dating a 16 year old because "they're mature!"
18 and 16 is only 2 years apart. Ok
@@Solomon0424 yeah should've started with the zoophile thing cause a two year age gap is mild af
I'm a big fan of your content, keep it up amigo
Holy shit thanks dude Im glad you enjoy the vids!
@@Lanza00 for sure! been watching you since you had 5K! keep up the great work!!
A crossover that I did not expect
100 Mexican pesos is like 5$
@@Lanza00 i like hot sweaty men
25:52 I've seen Lio get mad, but I've never seen him get _that_ mad and holy shit I felt my spine shrivel up and I wasn't even there when this confrontation took place 🤣
I didn't even think Lio could get this loud.
Dear lord.
@@FallenDemonFly then the coyote lovely shit came out he was worse :(( feel bad for him dude
@@_TSC_46 don't feel bad for Lio, he is a horrible guy (aka I think your comment aged like milk)
Lanza being real on that phone call!!! Nobody else is paying attention!
running an account with minors as a 30+ year old is fucking crazy especially with who they are
I will just leave than just keep listening and report to police
Even if everything was on the up-and-up, there are some things you just don't do as an adult. Private communications and/or running accounts with minors without any kind of legal oversight or parental involvement is one of them. There's a reason why contracts for people that work with children will usually restrict how they are able to interact with said children.
This guy made me spit my drink when he said, "I AM NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT THAT THIS GUY ADMITTED THAT HE WAS A ZOOPHILE 10 MINUTES AGO."
HOLY SHIT. LANZA REALLY ROASTING THEM.
31:27 True asf. I made an alt Twitter account and interviewed about 5 of them, in order to make a vid, but I just couldn't, I wanted to try and understand why they're so messed up but everyone single one was more interested in describing their terrible actions or distancing themselves from the growing number of "odd ones out", yk the actually bad ones. So I just gave up and reported them all because Christ it was hard to sleep after reading some of the stuff they did.
Chad bread boys
im scared of furries
Edit: i swear to god if i get one more notification about this comment im gonna beat the crap out of lanza
They finna hate you for this one.
@@2nihilistic324 aw god...
respect ong
Yes that y hunting seasons a thing?
*exists* >:3
Seeing you talk about how all these twisted creatures congregate with each other made me think of Turkey Tom talking about QuantumKitty where he says that researching any one of these zoophiles leads one to an interconnected web of them and thats the part that always fucks him up the most. To expose one person, you expose a whole community, and thats the real danger and difficulty of doing it.
Doing all this for pins sounds like some supervillain back story that is revealed at the end and played for comedy.
I think I may be the only one to say this, but I had no idea this person existed. This was quite informative.
Who ask furry
@@greenedleaf2481 Firstly: it's "asked"
Secondly: I asked
Lastly: who asked you?...
You responded late *furry*
Ok and?
@@greenedleaf2481 the person who made the video is a furry 😹😹
That dude yelling was actually satisfying, especially to a literal monster.
I remember watching all this go down cause Trasphobic Ls went after one of my friends over a disagreement on a character. I knew something was up but I had no idea it went this deep.
Watching as the Zrcalo rabbit hole go deeper and deeper is just, WOW. I hope this dude goes to prison and that Elite gets help. Great video!
Edit: Yes! I was in the video for like two seconds. For context, I wasn't ever a Zrcalo supporter. I joined the space to ask questions because Zrcalo is a creep. I ended up getting roped into becoming a mediator.
You should probably leave the furry fandom now so you aren't associated with people like that.
Weren't you in the video
werent you defending shark??? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@slansmsmss he/she is just ignore
@@slansmsmss No, they were trying to interview him I think
Finally someone who doesn't sugarcoat all the vile shit zrcalo and the mods have done
I love how you're not afraid to bully these messed up degenerates, keep doing what you're doing. :)
Just bring gun in a fist fight
I feel gross for knowing this person, because on my old account on Twitter, I was very much openly against Pedophiles and Zoophiles. This person came to me, apparently very interested in a lot of my thoughts on the matter. And of course, I never saw this side of the person. The only thing I found out about, was the questionable art. And I didn't think much of it at the time. They seemed like they cared about me. But the moment I asked the real questions at times, they'd clam up. And get involved in Drama I didn't care about.
Because at the end of the day, I was on Twitter for the memes, some art, (Nothing like Zrcarlo lmao), and to just chat with a few people. The few I gave a shit about. And I understand what it was like to be exploited growing up. But then I find all this shit out in this video... I'm glad I got away from them when I did. But I just feel gross I at one point considered them equal. They do not deserve that decency after all this bullshit they did. I feel nothing for them now, and glad I got away when I did. Any Empathy I may have had for them, had long since dried... because no rational person involves themselves in that much drama and has nothing to hide. And I'm glad I trusted my intuition.
But just... Wow, ya know? My skin is crawling from the disgust I feel.
Lanza? You did good.
I'm not even a furry, but this is the best reality TV drama I've ever seen. I deadass want to make popcorn.
Everything gets overshadowed by furry drama lol
this freak makes my kinks look sane
Hella under-rated comment
@@H3XED_OwO no one ask
so true. sometimes i feel like a bad idea but then i go on the internet and feel a bit better. at least i’m not attracted to animals or children or dead bodies
same here, my fetishes are harmless in fact yesterday i discovered I'm into burning my nipples in hot coffee
@@AbrasiousProductions dude *wheeze*
Hearing Coyote and Lio Convoy in a Lanza vid is fucking WILD
Is there drama going on with Coyote?? I've been seeing mixed things and I'm worried
@@creamtheskunk7073 someone that was close to Coyote fucked them over and hid a LOT of dirty laundry, then tried to take Coyote with them despite him being innocent. LioConvoy and everyone else in that call are better friends and saw through the bs, and now things are going to be aired out, probably in full soon.
@@dunno6161 oh so coyote is still innocent and good? I was super worried I'd be sad if he was bad. I really enjoy his content
@@creamtheskunk7073 yeah Coyote isn't the center, just knew the person it's actually about. Coyote is still clean.
@@dunno6161 if anything comes up lemme know, it's hard to keep up with all the drama at times
I noticed how the transphobes L twitter acc was interacting with and/or following several zoophile accounts but never mentioned anything because I only had like 20 followers 😭
Twitter trash and learning is best
OMG I knew about this situation, I was one of the people that was spreading the google doc as much as possible. I never thought I'd see this situation be brought up on your channel thats crazy XD
Like Zrcalo was crazy maan, apparently got HypnotistSappho on the mod team towards the end
Like I can't believe how exposed Zr got, they had 100s of screenshots and one where they admitted to fucking a fox corpse like daaamn
Who ask cringe
@@greenedleaf2481 do you really have nothing better to do with your life than harass people for simply being furries?
@@AnomalousBlake and so do you?
I think it's weird that the fact that this person did taxidermy always makes it onto these lists, like "this person dabbled in a legitimate hobby and career that's considered kind of creepy, then they were a nazi zoophile"
HOLD IT!!!
I know that person! (Transphobes Posting L's)
And.. you're telling me they are Zrcalo?!
Transphobes Posting L's account is control by many person, Zrcalo is just one of them
@@tokumillennium5162 Oh right, my bad, thank you for clarifying.
This doesn't change my feelings on them tho!
I don't think lots of people is quite right: I think there were 4 people posting to the account.
Mhm and other mental issue peoples
@@tokumillennium5162 Zrcalo is the main owner though, It's best to unfollow the account and follow one of the new alternatives, like the one with the robot jones pfp
I love how when Lanza loses his shit he just goes full on moistcritikal mode and insults them with the most op vocabularity known to man
Hearing Zalo cry makes my ears very happy.
This was an unexpected rabbit hole to dive down, but I'm here for it.
LagoVirt, Coyote Lovely, LioConvoy and now Lanza... these subs are paying off for info on people I should be avoiding by any means necessary.
"Is that all you're gonna use against me?"
IT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH
Someone victimized by this person has told me even more details. It's not pretty.
I sometimes worry that I'm a bad person when misspelling a word in a sentence, thus changing it entirely to something completely different. Or when I decide to put on the Sass-snapback when dealing with people that annoy me. Good to see that I am a actually 100%, and absolutely thriving in my planter. Like, damn dude, I'd kick him straight in the perineum for all this shit. Interesting rabbit hole, and I hope you keep them coming. o7
The fact that Lovely Coyote tried to step in and explain this guy's actions in the Senate call was disgusting!
You know I think Zcarlo was a little cheap for buying the Walmart store brand adult diapers.
Imagine made in china products
I fucking loved; "This is why I prefer coyote lovely over you and this kinda reminds me why." Which is legit the fattest fucking oxymoron or contradiction or whatever word fail that was, cus Coyote Lovely doesn't like Zoos either, and would very likely pull no punches during the chat, and very much go harder than Lanza...
Cringe picture this is why you failed the society
@@greenedleaf2481 Whatever you say, buddy. I failed society for hating Zoos and having art of my OC as my profile picture. Okay mate, thanks. ❤🤡
Doesn’t coyote lovely have a scat fetish?
@@passchen-fail3704 Where's the proof?
@@quietblake6997 he has one but it's unrelated to this stuff
I found out about him because of Caswarfox I was watching his live talking about zrcalo out of nowhere Valerie popped in defending zrcalo a little bit I wished I screenshot that part
I feel physically repulsed knowing demons like this exist...
Demons? More like furries
We can fix that with the Big Irons on our hips.
@@greenedleaf2481 not all furries are like this, I have no quarrel with furries, I take issue with zoophiles.
Who would have guessed that a clinically online twitter user is insane
That guy doesn't have a clue that if you are attracted to animals, please for the love of God, His Son and the Holy Spirit, please get a therapist, these behaviors don't pop outta nowhere, they always start from somewhere.
Love animal but not protesting it
in what world is “I don’t leave myself alone with an animals" a good defense like bro
34. 34... 34!!!!
I feel so unhinged right now!!!! This person is just a smidge older than me and?!?!
You always go a great job researching all your vids ontop of them being very entertaining and informative thanks for helping my day a bit and keep it up
But change your picture bit and change your picture to communism
@@greenedleaf2481 no. They're not gonna do that shit and you clearly have nothing else to do but harass people in every freaking comment reply. Wtf is your problem. Idk how someone's hobby is just offensive to you. Stay mad then.
100% man
Actually gasped out loud when this randomly popped up on my dash. Knew Zrcalo waaaayyyy back in the day. Used to actually admire him! Needless to say that was long before he went off the deep end with any of this crazy stuff. (Or if not, long before any of us knew about it.) I thought the drama he caused in our shared community back then was bad enough but it's got nothing at all on any of this stuff.
Every now and then over the years I've stumbled across his presence again in the most random furry-adjacent places like some weird accidental stalker. And here we are again.
I knew him ~10 years ago from that community and kept a watch on his art sites for a while afterwards. Kept hoping he would somehow turn around when he first started getting involved with shady groups. But after a year or so of that all I could do was I just watch from a further distance as this guy dug his own hole and got involved in increasingly awful and crazy crap I couldn’t even wrap my head around. I think I still have a line in some secret santa info page on Wajas saying I’d love art from him from ages ago. It’s been surreal seeing a guy who sparked a lot of my interest in furry stuff from a small site so long ago just continuously become something worse and worse.
I’ve been a furry for about 5 years and since I stay away from twitter I don’t get into any bit of drama, so maybe staying away from twitter will up your chances of not getting into…disgusting stuff like this.
(I feel like going on twitter now it seems pretty safe)
Honestly it seems the right way to go. I just enjoy wholesome art from fantastic artists while steering clear of the major weirdos of the community by not going to where they congregate
this man is so awesome he literally was so good at investigating this stuff, to the point he argued to their FACE i love this channel oml
Speaking of Taxidermy---
A friend had an old suit that he couldn't fit in very well anymore but it was his first hand-made suit so he wouldn't sell it so me and him "taxidermied" it (put a bunch of cotton in after randomly posing the suit)
It was fun
This drama will be always be on the back of my mind. Though, I barely help with information.
The only thing I did is submit a screenshot of Aiya posting artwork of their sona and Zrcalo's sona hugging each other with the caption "Us against the world"
Luckily, they posted it on their account, and shows that a common tactic for groomers is make their victim believe the world is against them.
To this day, I feel like I helped somehow
so glad u made a video on this because ive heard abt the things theyve done but couldnt find any good info on the situation
Just ignore some mental shitness peoples
5:06 Some people take "in order to find the monster you must think like the monster" a little too literally.
„this is why i prefer coyote lovely over you“ considering what came out about him i can see why.
Real
You know there’s a problem when even furries think you’re crazy.
The last call was done by Leoconvoy if anyone is curious
是的
Also, that dog base everyone is using by SmolMidget/VerticallyChallenged and as far as I'm aware, they don't support this kind of behavior. I think they'd be pretty shocked to know their base was used by people like this
I would be freaking devastated, I feel pretty bad for them (but even worse for all the victims in this situation)
Your pfp brings back memories❤️
I used to like this person's tweet a lot so this is a surprising! I didn't know they were involved in a controversy, no wonder i haven't seen their tweets in the last days
I knew something was fucking fishy when Zrcalo kept fucking around with Sappho. Warned everyone not to follow the TransphobicLs because it was such a cheap way to bank off Keffals.
when you're in a competition to be the most disgusting person on the internet and your opponent is Zo̶o̶calo:
Your videos are really well made, I'd like to see you make a video on the lumistarbun situation because people in the art community don't pay attention to them anymore even though they've done terrible things in the past year again, they scammed people $1000 by faking cancer on a Vtuber account and never gave the money back and still proceed to harass people
Now im not saying you should do it.
But flamethrowers are perfectly legal in 48 sta-
Missisibi queen kicks in*
It's beyond me how many people like this guy exist, and I most likely pass by a lot of them on the streets
“Where do I go from here” they did exactly what Eric Cartman did in the Cthulhu episodes after being yelled at 💀💀
I'm surrpised it took this long for so much to come out. Like, as soon as ZSIS was a thing that shit turned into a qiuck ring for zoophiles to find each way too fast, and the fact the moderators were fine with that is depressing.
Is zsis like isis for zoophiles?
I'm happy someone's actually covering this, I saw everything go down with TransphobicLs and feared that it was just going to be ignored
Holy fuck, I was directly involved in this and i didnt think Lanza was gonna make a video on it
Who ask change your life to Chad not furry stuffs
Same here. It’s really scary ngl how deep this went
@@greenedleaf2481 Very unbased of you
@@greenedleaf2481 you literally play minecraft ripoffs on roblox lmao
@@shasha6337 hope you're doing good
Lanza going off on the zoophile made my day holy shit
I thought this was a animatic but damn I’m invested
Fun fact: There is no such thing as a "good zoo"
Yeah actually there is, the good z00s are the ones trying to get actual help I've seen z00s get actual help and change their lives
The call is just so gross on how they try to just... shrug off everything like its whatever? I'm cracking up over you being like... Fuck nawh we ain't doing this today.
Worst part is I’ve seen people use it as an excuse to be transphobic. “How long until this one turns out to be a zoophile”
It’s easy to see why at this point.
It’s sad.
Transphobes will jump to any excuse. Same mentality as when racists collect videos of black people committing crimes. They jump to any and all anecdotes to vilify whatever they're bigoted against. Ignoring actual statistics.
Transphobes are just always waiting for a trans person to do something wrong to immediately use that as a reason to be transphobic to all trans people
@@passchen-fail3704what do you mean “it’s easy to see why”??????
pain. seeing my ex, aiya, having gone down that whole crap, pain. how did i ever stay with aiya for that long. funny how they were doing all this behind my back and then brought up to me. funny funny. and now i cant even get away from all that crap
16:48 "Where do I go from here?"
Locked up in a psych ward perhaps.
"it's clear you're not listening"
That one meme "WHY WOULD *I* LISTEN *YOU"*
The Mcu is less complicated lore wise like holy moly they are at this point just naming random characters
I had come across them in the Fursonapins community and only now finding out everything about their past and why they got banned. Wild, thank you for a great video.
im sorry but i have never heard a 34 year old sound like a 14 year old before
It can happen
The way he admits to being a zoophile almost instantly when you joined the vc thing reminds me so much of Jonathan Ross and his whole bathtub saga.
I really wish I hadnt googled the incident you referred to here
I almost rejoined the furry community/fandom until I seen this sh!t go down and I immediately moonwalked backwards into the void.
it's just a problem with perpetually online people in general.
It's like that one scene from the Simpsons where Homer goes into the bush.
"i take precautions i dont let myself be alone with an animal"
Could you imagine if like a straight guy said like "i dont let myself be alone with a woman"
i've been a furry for almost 3 years now and i never knew this much bad shit was in the community
Then change yourself dummy
You should get out, there's an iceberg of horrible things in that fandom.
some of the fandom can get pretty scary. a lot of furries are just people who like anthro animals, and are usually nice, zoo/pedo hating people. don’t feel like you have to abandon your interests just because a minority of a group is disgusting, just make sure you’re safe =3
Furry community seems very large and broad so it be weird not to find some that were fucked up. I don't believe the worse parts a majority, though. Also, if you never encountered it then you must do a good job in not getting involved with the fucked up parts of the community, so I say keep on doing what you're doing.
Buckle up,
It’s gonna get much worse.
I would like to add that part of the reason Transphobic Ls got so popular so quickly is probably due to the fact that there's been such a huge amount of transphobia lately. With people claiming all trans people are child groomers and perverts. It's added to people getting so incredibly mad about the situation from what I've seen
The large amount of transphobia recently probably has to do with the fact that the LGBT community is the most hated minority in the world, but from what I’m seeing from Transphobic Ls isn’t changing anything
25:53 *WOAH😨* *Lio Convoy is lividly angry* I know it’s none of my business but *WOW😨*
I found this video at 10pm last night while drunk, and while looking at the title and thumbnail fell into a mental spiral of how absurd furry drama is, and just started crazy-laughing for about 10 minutes. By the time i calmed down I decided to watch the video, and the first 10 seconds had me in stitches for another 5 minutes 😂
I wasn't laughing once the video got going.
“DOES IT SOUND LIKE I’M HAVING A GOOD TIME?!”