It’s not as drastic of a difference as it used to be on these modern cameras. I don’t feel any less confident in my a6700 shooting at night than I do with my a7IV
@@erwinmarionneauxso if you could go back and you were on a budget would you stick with the 6700 and get more lenses or is there better perks with the IV ? I’m torn between saving up more money or just upgrading from my a6000. I need better video quality. I’ll keep the 6000 as my photography camera only.
You can get the same exposure on a crop sensor as you can on a full frame, full frame makes sense for a wedding photographer or if you're exclusively doing portraits in a studio setting. But honestly, I'd recommend a crop sensor for anybody who needs to do some hiking, street photos, or wants to get a huge reach out of their lenses for cheaper. You can also make a crop sensor perform better in low light by using a full frame lens with a speed booster attached
@@FalloutUrMum it's not about the exposure, but the quality of the image in low light, high iso situation. Full frame just does it better if they have the same pixels.
Thanks for the explanation! I get caught up on the fact that MEDIUM format is larger than FULL frame. 😂 So confusingly named. Also, impressive images at the end of this video! 👍🏼
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It's wild how expensive all cameras are new. I paid over half off on a full frame just after a few years. And the next cheapest camera at the store was an APS-C camera.
Yeah but the things is you will have to factor alot of other things like pixel size, distancing, and number which will all be affected by the change in the sensor size which would result in changes in dynamic range, signal to noise ratio, depth of field (indirectly), sharpness, etc….
24mm the widest u can get with full frame crop u can go widest 7.5mm that so crazy u can see your feet I do more portraits and wild life and landscape love my canon r7
The other thing is full frame cameras have lens that have better aperture. A f1.8 on a full frame is 1.8 but a f1.8 on a crop sensor is 1.8 x 1.5= 2.7. So if you want that 1.8 on a crop apsc camera you need a f1.2 lens which is impossible to find or if you do it’s $1xxx or more.
Not true, f1.8 is the same on both. What you’re referring to trying to compensate for background blur. If you take an 85mm f1.8 on full frame and a fov equivalent 56mm on apsc, you’d need a faster aperture to match the blur. But that’s not because of the aperture, that’s because of the focal length difference. If you put a 50mm f1.4 on a full frame and a 50mm f1.4 in an apsc camera with the same settings in the same spot, the aperture looks exactly the same
@@erwinmarionneaux if the cameras in the same spot wouldn the 50mm 1.4 on the apsc be a 75mm f2.1 compared to the full frame in the exact spot? with the same lens? you have to put the 1.5x on the focal length and the aperture?
@ChillStudyDate I’ll make a video doing a deep dive into this. The ONLY difference between apsc and full frame is that the image is cropped. The only thing that changes the depth of field is changing focal lengths, distance, or aperture. If I use an 85mm f1.8 on a full frame camera, I’d have to use a 56mm on an apsc to match the framing BUT that means I’ve triggered one of those differences, I changed focal lengths. 85mm at f1.8 won’t look the same as 56mm at f1.8 because it’s a different focal length, has nothing to do with the camera.
@@erwinmarionneaux I think i get it, So if you want to get the same depth of field at f1.8 at the same focal length youd need to 1.5x your f stop basically OR you can change ur focal length to 1.5x, one of those stats has to change?
Yea it’s kind of a give and take. Since you changed the focal length, now you have to use a faster aperture to get a similar depth of field. But same settings, same lens, same distance will have the same depth of field.
@@nonstop3529 I don't do photography as a freelancer so my income isn't going to cover the expenses of full frame lenses and equipment. There isn't any loss in performance. Most of the clients don't see the difference in full frame and aps-c photos. Fujis colors make my workflow much easier. There's a few.
@@TimoVarakas I have been on Fuji for many years, I still have an old T-2 from the end of 2016 and I don’t know what I should take in January H-2 or Nikon Z-6III, these two cameras are universal and I really don’t know why I need a new system , maybe only for a large volume in the frame 🤷🏻♂️ but fuji presets speed up the work
There are a ton of other factors that determine those things. Pixel size is one of them. The less megapixels, the bigger the pixels can be which means they can gather more light. Also, the codec and bit depth the camera can record in.
so the larger the number the wider the lens? or the smaller the number the wider? such as 11mm is wider then a 16mm in terms of using on an APS-C camera?
@@erwinmarionneaux ok gotcha. That always confused me, as I was lookin for a wide angle lens OTHER then my 11mm Ultra wide which I didn't know what ultra at the time but now I love it so what other lens would you suggest for an APS-C camera that I can use like the Sigma 16mm but somewhat smaller.
Im trying to figure out if I need to move to full frame or get a wider lens, maybe 22mm ? I use Canon eos m50 but 4k crop 😮💨 I have to put I vertical for tiktok but horizontal for youtube videos. I want to be able to shoot horizontal and edit for both tiktok and RUclips. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
That has nothing to do with the sensor, but about the cpu and picture handling of the camera. Bigger sensor doesn't give you more light, only larger area of light. You don't get like a few seconds more boost of light because the sensor is bigger.
Im sorry but this is not true a APS-C camera is not just crop there is more dynamic range in photos and videos this will result in more details in highlights and shadows making image more alive on top of having better range of colors and less noise in low light.
That has nothing to do with being apsc. There are apsc cameras with more dynamic range, details, and low light performance than full frame cameras. What you are talking about is a choice that companies often make. Their goal is to have smaller apsc cameras be more affordable so it often doesn’t make sense to put an expensive sensor in a camera that you want to be more affordable
You should've mentioned the fact that a speed booster will allow a aps-c sensor to eliminate the crop factor and produce an image on par with a full frame sensor.
That’s a whole conversation in itself, there are some drawbacks though, like having to use dslr lenses because of the increased flange distance and eliminating or limiting autofocus
I've become a professional photographer on a Canon M50 (1.6x crop I think), I just did photos and video at a major Kayaking race and had a dude (who had no camera with him) give me crap for not using a full frame. My photos and videos still got me money, and they were great photos and video I might add. Also, I'd like to see that guy brag about his full frame with the giant lens I'd need to get the equivalent photos after needing to carry it 1.5 miles on a hike and then climbing down the cliff I had to scale to get into the gorge where the race was being held. I'd much rather have an extra water bottle than a 200mm full frame lens in my backpack. I've used a full frame camera with a big lens for portraits and other photos, but there's no way I'm carrying that on my neck up and down a gorge all day lol. I know I'm ranting here, but when you're a photographer the odds are that your customers aren't camera snobs who think anything less than a full frame isn't professional. Your customers are people who don't do photography themselves and just want a nice photo.
Ok but at the same time you should look to give clients the impression that they are paying for a premium service if you want to up your rates, so in that sense you may want full frame
Clients won’t have a clue if your camera is full frame or not, very few even know what it means and they wouldn’t be able to tell from the work. You could never use a full frame camera and have a perfectly fine career
@@erwinmarionneaux oh of course it’s more that there’s often doubt around non-rigged mirrorless as it has yet to become the public image of a videographer
The depth of field is exactly the same. Sensor size has nothing to do with depth of field. The ONLY factors that change that are focal length, distance, and aperture.
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this is so helpful. I’m trying to get a Sony cinema camera. I guess I don’t have to spend the extra 2k
Keep in mind that a full frame sensor can capture more light, so it will be noticeably better in low-light situations.
It’s not as drastic of a difference as it used to be on these modern cameras. I don’t feel any less confident in my a6700 shooting at night than I do with my a7IV
@@SvendeKinkelder You can actually get more light out of a crop sensor by using a full frame lens with a speed booster attached.
@@FalloutUrMum Interesting! Doesn’t that mess with the quality like chromatic aberration or anyting?
@@erwinmarionneauxso if you could go back and you were on a budget would you stick with the 6700 and get more lenses or is there better perks with the IV ? I’m torn between saving up more money or just upgrading from my a6000. I need better video quality. I’ll keep the 6000 as my photography camera only.
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Issues comes up in low light high iso situation. Also, it's harder to have that shadow depths of field in crop sensor.
Except you can just get an f/1.4 lens with the money you saved on camera bodies and lenses
@@christianspaay437 that's it. Crop sensor is really about saving money, not anything else.
You can get the same exposure on a crop sensor as you can on a full frame, full frame makes sense for a wedding photographer or if you're exclusively doing portraits in a studio setting. But honestly, I'd recommend a crop sensor for anybody who needs to do some hiking, street photos, or wants to get a huge reach out of their lenses for cheaper. You can also make a crop sensor perform better in low light by using a full frame lens with a speed booster attached
@@FalloutUrMum it's not about the exposure, but the quality of the image in low light, high iso situation. Full frame just does it better if they have the same pixels.
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Thanks for the explanation! I get caught up on the fact that MEDIUM format is larger than FULL frame. 😂 So confusingly named. Also, impressive images at the end of this video! 👍🏼
Lol yea it can be a bit confusing! Full frame is called “full” because it’s the size of “full” 35mm film. 35mm
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shot w a full frame camera , saturday , noticed the difference almost instantly
Yes! Big jump in field of view
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It's wild how expensive all cameras are new. I paid over half off on a full frame just after a few years. And the next cheapest camera at the store was an APS-C camera.
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Thank you for a great explanation 👍
Great video
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Yeah but the things is you will have to factor alot of other things like pixel size, distancing, and number which will all be affected by the change in the sensor size which would result in changes in dynamic range, signal to noise ratio, depth of field (indirectly), sharpness, etc….
Exactly!
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24mm the widest u can get with full frame crop u can go widest 7.5mm that so crazy u can see your feet I do more portraits and wild life and landscape love my canon r7
You can go much wider than 24mm with full frame
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The other thing is full frame cameras have lens that have better aperture. A f1.8 on a full frame is 1.8 but a f1.8 on a crop sensor is 1.8 x 1.5= 2.7. So if you want that 1.8 on a crop apsc camera you need a f1.2 lens which is impossible to find or if you do it’s $1xxx or more.
Not true, f1.8 is the same on both. What you’re referring to trying to compensate for background blur. If you take an 85mm f1.8 on full frame and a fov equivalent 56mm on apsc, you’d need a faster aperture to match the blur. But that’s not because of the aperture, that’s because of the focal length difference. If you put a 50mm f1.4 on a full frame and a 50mm f1.4 in an apsc camera with the same settings in the same spot, the aperture looks exactly the same
@@erwinmarionneaux if the cameras in the same spot wouldn the 50mm 1.4 on the apsc be a 75mm f2.1 compared to the full frame in the exact spot? with the same lens? you have to put the 1.5x on the focal length and the aperture?
@ChillStudyDate I’ll make a video doing a deep dive into this. The ONLY difference between apsc and full frame is that the image is cropped. The only thing that changes the depth of field is changing focal lengths, distance, or aperture. If I use an 85mm f1.8 on a full frame camera, I’d have to use a 56mm on an apsc to match the framing BUT that means I’ve triggered one of those differences, I changed focal lengths. 85mm at f1.8 won’t look the same as 56mm at f1.8 because it’s a different focal length, has nothing to do with the camera.
@@erwinmarionneaux I think i get it, So if you want to get the same depth of field at f1.8 at the same focal length youd need to 1.5x your f stop basically OR you can change ur focal length to 1.5x, one of those stats has to change?
Yea it’s kind of a give and take. Since you changed the focal length, now you have to use a faster aperture to get a similar depth of field. But same settings, same lens, same distance will have the same depth of field.
Very good.
I was one of those peeps. I turned from fullframe to aps-c because I noticed it's better for me 🤙
Why?
@@nonstop3529 I don't do photography as a freelancer so my income isn't going to cover the expenses of full frame lenses and equipment. There isn't any loss in performance. Most of the clients don't see the difference in full frame and aps-c photos. Fujis colors make my workflow much easier.
There's a few.
@@TimoVarakas I have been on Fuji for many years, I still have an old T-2 from the end of 2016 and I don’t know what I should take in January H-2 or Nikon Z-6III, these two cameras are universal and I really don’t know why I need a new system , maybe only for a large volume in the frame 🤷🏻♂️ but fuji presets speed up the work
@@nonstop3529 I'v got the X-H2 and X-H2s and couldn't be happier. Both hold up pretty well. X-H2s a little better.
@@TimoVarakas because of the higher resolution?
And so in what situation would apsc be better?
I made a full video to go with this reel that goes into that with more detail
Would they both still capture the same amount of data? For example images in low light?
There are a ton of other factors that determine those things. Pixel size is one of them. The less megapixels, the bigger the pixels can be which means they can gather more light. Also, the codec and bit depth the camera can record in.
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so the larger the number the wider the lens? or the smaller the number the wider? such as 11mm is wider then a 16mm in terms of using on an APS-C camera?
The smaller the number, the wider the lens on ALL cameras
@@erwinmarionneaux ok gotcha. That always confused me, as I was lookin for a wide angle lens OTHER then my 11mm Ultra wide which I didn't know what ultra at the time but now I love it so what other lens would you suggest for an APS-C camera that I can use like the Sigma 16mm but somewhat smaller.
So you are saying that there's medium format, fullframe, crop and crop crop? 🤔
Im trying to figure out if I need to move to full frame or get a wider lens, maybe 22mm ? I use Canon eos m50 but 4k crop 😮💨 I have to put I vertical for tiktok but horizontal for youtube videos. I want to be able to shoot horizontal and edit for both tiktok and RUclips. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.
You just need a wider lens, if you go to full frame, a wider lens will cost more money
@@erwinmarionneaux thank you so much.
How about in low light performances
That has nothing to do with the sensor, but about the cpu and picture handling of the camera. Bigger sensor doesn't give you more light, only larger area of light. You don't get like a few seconds more boost of light because the sensor is bigger.
Does a bigger sensor mean more editing capability of RAW files in post?
Nope
will it print out the same size?
Print size is what megapixels are, not the sensor size.
@@erwinmarionneaux okay thank you :)
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Im sorry but this is not true a APS-C camera is not just crop there is more dynamic range in photos and videos this will result in more details in highlights and shadows making image more alive on top of having better range of colors and less noise in low light.
That has nothing to do with being apsc. There are apsc cameras with more dynamic range, details, and low light performance than full frame cameras.
What you are talking about is a choice that companies often make. Their goal is to have smaller apsc cameras be more affordable so it often doesn’t make sense to put an expensive sensor in a camera that you want to be more affordable
1.5x smaller is a weird thing to say. Cameras are the only things I see do this.
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You should've mentioned the fact that a speed booster will allow a aps-c sensor to eliminate the crop factor and produce an image on par with a full frame sensor.
That’s a whole conversation in itself, there are some drawbacks though, like having to use dslr lenses because of the increased flange distance and eliminating or limiting autofocus
I shoot a lot at night. APS-C just won't cut it for me
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I've become a professional photographer on a Canon M50 (1.6x crop I think), I just did photos and video at a major Kayaking race and had a dude (who had no camera with him) give me crap for not using a full frame. My photos and videos still got me money, and they were great photos and video I might add.
Also, I'd like to see that guy brag about his full frame with the giant lens I'd need to get the equivalent photos after needing to carry it 1.5 miles on a hike and then climbing down the cliff I had to scale to get into the gorge where the race was being held. I'd much rather have an extra water bottle than a 200mm full frame lens in my backpack.
I've used a full frame camera with a big lens for portraits and other photos, but there's no way I'm carrying that on my neck up and down a gorge all day lol.
I know I'm ranting here, but when you're a photographer the odds are that your customers aren't camera snobs who think anything less than a full frame isn't professional. Your customers are people who don't do photography themselves and just want a nice photo.
Ok but at the same time you should look to give clients the impression that they are paying for a premium service if you want to up your rates, so in that sense you may want full frame
Clients won’t have a clue if your camera is full frame or not, very few even know what it means and they wouldn’t be able to tell from the work. You could never use a full frame camera and have a perfectly fine career
@@erwinmarionneaux oh of course it’s more that there’s often doubt around non-rigged mirrorless as it has yet to become the public image of a videographer
The difference is not just cropped. The depth of field and captured light are also not the same.
The depth of field is exactly the same. Sensor size has nothing to do with depth of field. The ONLY factors that change that are focal length, distance, and aperture.
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Now tupac talks about fullframe and crop for beginners in 2023? Lol
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