IMPORTANT POST PATCH UPDATE: Lionheart stance finally actually works now, so the sections about all the weird counterplay stuff you have to do, you don't have to worry anymore. Now the mixup works as intended, in situations where are forced into lionheart with advantage frames, Lionheart 1 basically will beat the opponent if they try to press any button/do armour/try to duck, and once thats established then lionheart 1+2 is the guardbreak and you get guaranteed damage now. No more having to stance dance or abuse glitches(which has been patched out). The Mixups is now a proper mixup, rejoice!
I don’t even play TEKKEN 8 but I still sit through these hour long videos because I love how Rooflemonger teaches how to play all these characters 😂 thank you bro
Thought I would just pick up Steve, and then I found out he is way more complex than I thought. Now I wanna learn him even more. Appreciate the thorough guide, man.
@@adams3627wr 2 and 1+2 in heat mode give you a nice bit of distance if you commit to the heat dash, same with 3+4, 2. These moves are fairly common so there is some ideas there
@@adams3627WR I’m pretty sure means while running (now this part may be confusing) I think that usually use WS for the “while rising” attacks, I don’t know why, but that’s how I usually see it in videos and comments (and for reference the WR 2 would be FFF2 for the input)
The three characters I wanted to try in this game were Kuma, Jack-8, and Steve. Now that Rooflemonger has done guides on them all (thank you for the quality education, sensei) I can stop having a character crisis over who looks coolest to character crisis over whose gameplan is most fun to do.
Finally here with the Steve guide. Didn't get those balance changes like I hoped, but at least there's a bit of a light at the end of the tunnel as explained in the 2nd Lionheart section, some advanced tech to make his lionheart stance more useful! Also I started the starter guide format to make the guides shorter, and here we are again with another hour long monster lol. I just like explaining things I cant help it
Appreciate it! As a former steve main in tekken 7 it feels like he’s still stuck in that game. Everyone else got amazing new tools but he kinda feels meh in this game.
Awesome video, man o/ Just a quick note: ub2~b is also +14. It doesn't only guarantee a df1 2, it also guaratees a Sonic Fang. Now if only Sonic Fang would wallsplat XD
@@lsv47 ub2 cancel does let you do sonic fang, but the timing is tighter cause you can't pre buffer anythihng cause you have to commit to the cancel vs df12 is mad easy so thats why I used that as the example instead
Your timing is perfect. I literally just started tekken and Steve caught my eyes so I picked him up. Being new to tekken it’s been very difficult because of how unique he is in general and i thought I doomed myself
I got King on tenryu cause of these guides (never played tekken before but other fighting games) thought i need to Pick someone Else cause variety. I watched this Guide a week ago and now im garyu with Steve. You guides are Amazing, i found you like 4 years ago and was never disappointed
Tekken 8 is the first in the series I've actually sat down to learn, nearly Garyu with Kazuya. Once i do that, Steve was the next character i wanted to pick up, so this should be helpful
I'm flame ruler at the moment, I've been playing Steve only since Tekken 6 , and I can tell you something about the character, it is all about reading the opponent, Steve has basically no tools compared to the rest of the characters, this character trains you the most on how to read the opponent.
Been waiting for another one of these! Other than Paul (and maybe Kuma), I haven’t been interested so I’m happy to see a Steve guide! I’m still waiting for someone cool like Lili, Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, or Yoshi.
As a Steve main from Tekken 7, this is a really great guide for new players who want to get into the character in Tekken 8. Definitely sharing this with friends looking to learn the character, and I would honestly love to erase my memory on all the things I learned about Steve and learn him again with this video
Be wary of using ub + 3 to bait and evade Rage Art because it'll more often than not cancel the animation, lock you in place to eat that. Had it happen to many times. Great guide Rooflemonger!
Something to add; the backsway reposition grab is great when at the wall, as it can cause a wall hit that can lead into a short combo, specifically 1,1,2. You can then cancel this into another backsway into grab and repeat ad nauseum until they decide to duck/low attack or break the grab.
I love how tekken 8 brings soooo much new comers and it's amazing. I've played previous ones in the past but never sat down and learned the ins and outs but this one I did that and im glad I did.
As a Voldo main and someone who loves stance characters and wishes to get better with Steve, I've have to say," Impressive, very nice." Now all we need is Rooflemonger to convince Tekken Project to get Mike Tyson as a Tekken 8 guest character!!
It's a shame I already know this matchup pretty well. I really respect Steve players, I can tell they're working hard. An amazing Steve player is a sight to behold. I might give him a go myself, I really love this character. I might do Mac cosplay (Nintendo Punch Out).
5:54 I'm a beginner tekken player who play steve, and I just found out yesterday that, steve back 1 and then hold back to enter flicker stance, will let you duck [forward 3/4] faster compare to just back 1, allowing you to double ducking [forward 3/4 hold 3/4] and then launch them up [1] with more damage although if you just [back 1] and directly duck [forward 3/4] you can still continue the combo but it deal less damage, than the double ducking version
Yes I am a fairly new Steve player but back 1 should ALWAYS cancel into flicker as it allows for safe offense. And a like u said CH B1 > FLK allows for Ducking In blue spark 1, which gives bonus combo damage.
Plz plz plz can u do one for Bryan. I find him so interesting and having you break down his kit would really help make him approachable cause he's really intimidating from hearing how difficult he can be
Hey roofle monger, can we get the kazyya guide next please, I just bought the razer kitsune and I've been waiting on you to learn how to play kazyua best, love the videos and guides❤️
really wanted to start my first tekken with steve but 6 characters later, i’m glad i didnt, he’s much easier for me to learn after playing some more generic characters
Isn't he the same VA from the previous game? It really seems like there was some bet lost by some Steve main dev of the game, and he was forced to make Steve look like a clown. 😅😅
no idea whose next, ill do the red bull thing in new york on the weekend and my only goal right now is surviving that lol. once I get back home then ill figure out the content pipeline for the next little bit
Step one, chose somebody else. Tracking is the best it’s ever been. Steve’s gimmick is he side steps somewhat faster than a regular side step. He is a bottom tier trash character
Here we are with the Steve Fox Starter Guide! Steve is a very unique character in Tekken 8 that you can't really compare to anyone else, so the purpose of this video is to help you understand basically everything there is to know about him! From what he's good at, his whole whack of stances, a bunch of example combos and a bunch more to get you started on your Steve journey! Give the video a watch, like if ya liked it(timestamps for a video thats over an hour long? cmon, give a like!) and let me know what you think!
Hey im just starting Tekken and im learning Steve. Advice on avoiding reliance on lion heart to create space as I find it's easier to input and is more evasive then learning any korean backdash of sorts .
@@kaiheaton4858 I say don’t avoid. Learn the situations where you should use it versus not using it. I learned that I often times go into the moves after the back step too soon and that can lead to a counter hit. If you wait for the opponent, most times they will whiff and you can attack at that moment from LH
You’re the man Roof. There’s thousands and thousands of folks like me that appreciate the work you put in and the knowledge/enthusiasm you have for these games. Keep doing what you do! I’m a counter hit addict, so I main Brian and Steve. This guide is tremendous.
Honestly I have no plans on playing this guy but had to click on the vid to like it. Your character guides and dedication to the FGC in general is absolutely next level.
really appreciate you making a guide on steve! hes looked really interesting and i havent found a good way to start learning him, so this has been a huge help! thanks very much
Great video with a good breakdown! Just a quick note. You can make Wildman fully safe with a duck cancel after the d2, 1. So you go d2, 1, duck (f3), db, b. You can slide the duck to db, b. With some timing practice you can get this 100% of the time and it makes this combo godly for mixups.
Thank you so much for the Steve guide man! I'm finally getting into fightning games and Steve is my guy! I really appreciate the extra help and breakdowns!
One thing i want to add is about the sway grab which reposition the enemy ( it is much better at the wall whenever the enemy touch the wall because of it you have +10 guarranteed , depending on the angle it can go to (+16 ~+22 )
Awesome video, but one thing about the backsway 1+2 grab, if you push them into a wall you can get some mad + frames, and even guaranteed damage. The amount of + frames kinda depends on how far away you are when you push them into it, further away you get more frames. Shinblade (like the #2 ranked Steve in the world) can get like 80+ damage off of just a wall shove near the wall, over 100 with heat.
I'm not sure what the right way to buff LNH is; being able to cancel out of it by holding back might make it too safe. Having a faster grab option than canceling into backsway 1+2 would let you deal with power crushes but not Rage Arts. The cancel into PKB is cool and useful, but it basically is an exploit behind a bit of a skill ceiling so it's not really intended and it may not be around forever.
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IMPORTANT POST PATCH UPDATE:
Lionheart stance finally actually works now, so the sections about all the weird counterplay stuff you have to do, you don't have to worry anymore. Now the mixup works as intended, in situations where are forced into lionheart with advantage frames, Lionheart 1 basically will beat the opponent if they try to press any button/do armour/try to duck, and once thats established then lionheart 1+2 is the guardbreak and you get guaranteed damage now. No more having to stance dance or abuse glitches(which has been patched out). The Mixups is now a proper mixup, rejoice!
I don’t even play TEKKEN 8 but I still sit through these hour long videos because I love how Rooflemonger teaches how to play all these characters 😂 thank you bro
Same bro, I watched his GBVR vids and I can’t even play the game since I’m on console😂
I’m a proud member of secret Society of Steve’s
Don't miss us winning!
Very proud to join, used to be an exclusive Kazuya player.
Thought I would just pick up Steve, and then I found out he is way more complex than I thought. Now I wanna learn him even more. Appreciate the thorough guide, man.
Note that with the reposition-shove, if you shove them into a wall, you wallsplat them and get a full wall combo. Same with his 1+3 side switch throw
Oooh good to know. Now I just need to get good enough at applying pressure to get someone to the wall in the first place.
@@adams3627wr 2 and 1+2 in heat mode give you a nice bit of distance if you commit to the heat dash, same with 3+4, 2. These moves are fairly common so there is some ideas there
@@baleeghishtiaq6444 WR means while standing up from a crouch, right?
no WR= while running@@adams3627 WS= while standing
@@adams3627WR I’m pretty sure means while running (now this part may be confusing) I think that usually use WS for the “while rising” attacks, I don’t know why, but that’s how I usually see it in videos and comments (and for reference the WR 2 would be FFF2 for the input)
The three characters I wanted to try in this game were Kuma, Jack-8, and Steve. Now that Rooflemonger has done guides on them all (thank you for the quality education, sensei) I can stop having a character crisis over who looks coolest to character crisis over whose gameplan is most fun to do.
Finally here with the Steve guide. Didn't get those balance changes like I hoped, but at least there's a bit of a light at the end of the tunnel as explained in the 2nd Lionheart section, some advanced tech to make his lionheart stance more useful! Also I started the starter guide format to make the guides shorter, and here we are again with another hour long monster lol. I just like explaining things I cant help it
We'd rather have thorough long vids brother. Every time. We enjoy every vid you post.
Appreciate it! As a former steve main in tekken 7 it feels like he’s still stuck in that game. Everyone else got amazing new tools but he kinda feels meh in this game.
Awesome video, man o/
Just a quick note: ub2~b is also +14. It doesn't only guarantee a df1 2, it also guaratees a Sonic Fang.
Now if only Sonic Fang would wallsplat XD
@@lsv47 ub2 cancel does let you do sonic fang, but the timing is tighter cause you can't pre buffer anythihng cause you have to commit to the cancel vs df12 is mad easy so thats why I used that as the example instead
@@rooflemonger That is fair. And the reward on Sonic Fang isn't even that much bigger, either. You're righ, df 1 2 is kinda more bang for your buck.
Your timing is perfect. I literally just started tekken and Steve caught my eyes so I picked him up. Being new to tekken it’s been very difficult because of how unique he is in general and i thought I doomed myself
I got King on tenryu cause of these guides (never played tekken before but other fighting games) thought i need to Pick someone Else cause variety. I watched this Guide a week ago and now im garyu with Steve. You guides are Amazing, i found you like 4 years ago and was never disappointed
Tekken 8 is the first in the series I've actually sat down to learn, nearly Garyu with Kazuya. Once i do that, Steve was the next character i wanted to pick up, so this should be helpful
I’m shinryu with Steve watching this cause I’m hard stuck I’m not going to lie playing Steve against these other hyper S tier characters is rough man
I cant get to gayru with steve but i climb to it in two days spammining 3 with Eddie
I'm flame ruler at the moment, I've been playing Steve only since Tekken 6 , and I can tell you something about the character, it is all about reading the opponent, Steve has basically no tools compared to the rest of the characters, this character trains you the most on how to read the opponent.
Been waiting for another one of these! Other than Paul (and maybe Kuma), I haven’t been interested so I’m happy to see a Steve guide! I’m still waiting for someone cool like Lili, Hwoarang, Jin, Devil Jin, or Yoshi.
just got tekken 8 tonight. Loved hwaorang in t7 but i’ve been wanting to learn steve for years. very timely video
As a Steve main from Tekken 7, this is a really great guide for new players who want to get into the character in Tekken 8. Definitely sharing this with friends looking to learn the character, and I would honestly love to erase my memory on all the things I learned about Steve and learn him again with this video
Be wary of using ub + 3 to bait and evade Rage Art because it'll more often than not cancel the animation, lock you in place to eat that. Had it happen to many times. Great guide Rooflemonger!
Something to add; the backsway reposition grab is great when at the wall, as it can cause a wall hit that can lead into a short combo, specifically 1,1,2. You can then cancel this into another backsway into grab and repeat ad nauseum until they decide to duck/low attack or break the grab.
Wow- this is actually perfect I just decided I’d start picking up Steve after getting Lee to red ranks.
as a new steve main, this guide was very constructive, thanks for the tips and tricks 👍
Also if you’re reading this, I just won 3 games In a row using stuff that I learned in this video!!!
I love how tekken 8 brings soooo much new comers and it's amazing. I've played previous ones in the past but never sat down and learned the ins and outs but this one I did that and im glad I did.
So awesome youa re doing these guides rooflemonger thank you! If you make more, i would love to see dragunov, bryan, and yoshimitsu! Cheers
52:00 Thanks goodness they change the guard break, it has a complete counter hit against it. Making them go into a launch
It’s finally time, Thanks monger👌🏾
As a Voldo main and someone who loves stance characters and wishes to get better with Steve, I've have to say," Impressive, very nice."
Now all we need is Rooflemonger to convince Tekken Project to get Mike Tyson as a Tekken 8 guest character!!
Thank you for blessing us with this guide papa!
Love your positive energy. Great video!
Thank you Roofle!! Been waiting on this one for a while!
I think it may be physically impossible to hate this character
It's a shame I already know this matchup pretty well. I really respect Steve players, I can tell they're working hard. An amazing Steve player is a sight to behold. I might give him a go myself, I really love this character. I might do Mac cosplay (Nintendo Punch Out).
5:54 I'm a beginner tekken player who play steve, and I just found out yesterday that, steve back 1 and then hold back to enter flicker stance, will let you duck [forward 3/4] faster compare to just back 1, allowing you to double ducking [forward 3/4 hold 3/4] and then launch them up [1] with more damage
although if you just [back 1] and directly duck [forward 3/4] you can still continue the combo but it deal less damage, than the double ducking version
Yes I am a fairly new Steve player but back 1 should ALWAYS cancel into flicker as it allows for safe offense. And a like u said CH B1 > FLK allows for Ducking In blue spark 1, which gives bonus combo damage.
such a fun character
absolutely phenomenal
I was waiting for this guide, and it was worth the wait, excellent guide, I appreciate
Been waiting for this, thanks
Plz plz plz can u do one for Bryan. I find him so interesting and having you break down his kit would really help make him approachable cause he's really intimidating from hearing how difficult he can be
1:02:07 MY EYES ACTUALLY WENT CROSS EYED BRO IM TRYING TO UNDERSTANDDDD
I’ve been using Steve since Tekken Tag so I’ll imma say is he’s an advanced character which is harder to use.
Hey, didn't you already upload an Ed guide?
Do you think we could get a lee guide next? That'd be awesome
Hey roofle monger, can we get the kazyya guide next please, I just bought the razer kitsune and I've been waiting on you to learn how to play kazyua best, love the videos and guides❤️
This was a knockout of a guide
I didn't realize the lion heart stance had that many flaws
really wanted to start my first tekken with steve but 6 characters later, i’m glad i didnt, he’s much easier for me to learn after playing some more generic characters
I wanted to play him when I saw his trailer, but he didn’t end up gelling with me. Still gonna watch the whole thing to help beat him.
Commenting on a great guide
Imsane guide, thank you !!
Guv gang represent! Only quarter way through the video, but curious if you've seen the Steve tech on cancelling Lionheart stance?
OVER HERE ! SMASH ! GOODNIGHT !
this was a very solid video. thank you very much sir
Whenever someone asks if I play fightin' games, I always respond the same way.
You wanna try me, guv?
Finally.
Please do Azucena Next roof!
“…Steve Don’t Kick.” - rooflemonger
I’m studying my main enemy
Lion Heart is better by a wall becuase the back sway grab beats Powercrush and you get free 112 for 30 damage
Make a guide on Nina plz
Great content, Alisa next PLEASE
more in time!
Con: voice actor
Ovah heyah
👶
Isn't he the same VA from the previous game? It really seems like there was some bet lost by some Steve main dev of the game, and he was forced to make Steve look like a clown. 😅😅
@@jbb20it is the same guy lol
Skyrim NPC 😂
Any chance we'll get Leroy soon?
no idea whose next, ill do the red bull thing in new york on the weekend and my only goal right now is surviving that lol. once I get back home then ill figure out the content pipeline for the next little bit
OK cool! Good luck, thanks for all the effort :)
lee next??
Hey all you Steve's: see you in the lounge!!!!!
lars guide please :D
jin next?
Please dragunov starter guide 😢😢
Naisuuu
LET'S GOOOOO
His guides put other guides to shame
🙏
Waiting for Victor :)
Victor is the easiest character lol nobody should even need a victor guide
@@JaredLetoSelfSuckLULE
Victor guide: just press 2 for awhile
Step 1, download a voice mod
Step one, chose somebody else. Tracking is the best it’s ever been. Steve’s gimmick is he side steps somewhat faster than a regular side step. He is a bottom tier trash character
Pls reina guide
We need a hwarong next 🔥
Whats the song at 1:04:00????
true lovemaking - capcom vs snk2
Let's gooooooooo
love or hate him, you have to appreciate how unique he is compared to everybody else.
Steve Fox, to me at least, is one of the best fighting game characters ever created.
A love letter to the sweet science.
Simply a Knockout!
His T8 combo though looks ugly though. Three continuous rear hand attacks while moving forward and the "windy" uppercut looks cartoony.
@@justaway6901 it's tekken, almost every combo looks cartoony.
OVER HERE !
He sucks in this game
@@Invader_Hexhe’s just not aesthetically pleasing to look at combo wise like the other guy said
Here we are with the Steve Fox Starter Guide! Steve is a very unique character in Tekken 8 that you can't really compare to anyone else, so the purpose of this video is to help you understand basically everything there is to know about him! From what he's good at, his whole whack of stances, a bunch of example combos and a bunch more to get you started on your Steve journey! Give the video a watch, like if ya liked it(timestamps for a video thats over an hour long? cmon, give a like!) and let me know what you think!
Thank you for the guide
Thank you!!!! 🙏🏾
Hey im just starting Tekken and im learning Steve. Advice on avoiding reliance on lion heart to create space as I find it's easier to input and is more evasive then learning any korean backdash of sorts .
@@kaiheaton4858 I say don’t avoid. Learn the situations where you should use it versus not using it. I learned that I often times go into the moves after the back step too soon and that can lead to a counter hit. If you wait for the opponent, most times they will whiff and you can attack at that moment from LH
Steve grew to be one of my favourites to play back in Tekken 5 and 6, can't wait to see just what people can do with him in the competitive scene now!
You’re the man Roof. There’s thousands and thousands of folks like me that appreciate the work you put in and the knowledge/enthusiasm you have for these games. Keep doing what you do! I’m a counter hit addict, so I main Brian and Steve. This guide is tremendous.
I have waited SO patiently for this lmao thank you
can you change your Azucena guide title to Azucena Milagros Ortiz Castillo Ultimate Starter Guide - Tekken 8 ? 🥰🤙
I don't think the algorithm will like so many words in the title lol
Honestly I have no plans on playing this guy but had to click on the vid to like it. Your character guides and dedication to the FGC in general is absolutely next level.
One of your highest quality videos mate. Very good guide and well made.
nooo I already fought like 6 steves today lol at least they'll learn :P
No matter how much Bamco might buff this dude in the future, they’ll never buff the voice acting 😢💔
There is a steve mod which brings t7 voice back its on tekkenmods site its pretty good I like the t7 way more than the t8 one
really appreciate you making a guide on steve! hes looked really interesting and i havent found a good way to start learning him, so this has been a huge help! thanks very much
Since tekken 4😏 I decided he’d always be top priority 😭🤣🤣 Steve tech always go crazy
Fein and Steve are the two characters I respect.
Cause I know if their a good player I'm going to get schooled with the dodges and counters.
Thanks for the guide, this was great!
Great video with a good breakdown! Just a quick note. You can make Wildman fully safe with a duck cancel after the d2, 1.
So you go d2, 1, duck (f3), db, b. You can slide the duck to db, b. With some timing practice you can get this 100% of the time and it makes this combo godly for mixups.
Time for me to lock my self in a room for 2 days and learn my favorite character 🤞🏾❤️ thank you for all you do
awesome character breakdown as always
Thank you so much for the Steve guide man! I'm finally getting into fightning games and Steve is my guy! I really appreciate the extra help and breakdowns!
Guv gang rise up
Its out!!!
Thank you, good sir. Looking forward to watching multiple times.
One thing i want to add is about the sway grab which reposition the enemy ( it is much better at the wall whenever the enemy touch the wall because of it you have +10 guarranteed , depending on the angle it can go to (+16 ~+22 )
Even when the frame advantage isn't displayed it is guarranteed, Always worked like that
Amazing guide, first tekken and picked up Steve, this guide really let me step up my game and discover how I wasn’t using Steve properly.
I box and watch boxing so I appreciate your little comments about Floyd or Pacquiao, or "Hajime no Steve".
Awesome video, but one thing about the backsway 1+2 grab, if you push them into a wall you can get some mad + frames, and even guaranteed damage. The amount of + frames kinda depends on how far away you are when you push them into it, further away you get more frames.
Shinblade (like the #2 ranked Steve in the world) can get like 80+ damage off of just a wall shove near the wall, over 100 with heat.
I'm not sure what the right way to buff LNH is; being able to cancel out of it by holding back might make it too safe. Having a faster grab option than canceling into backsway 1+2 would let you deal with power crushes but not Rage Arts.
The cancel into PKB is cool and useful, but it basically is an exploit behind a bit of a skill ceiling so it's not really intended and it may not be around forever.
thank you sir