As someone who is trans, thank you so much for saying this. A lot of neopronouns are used to mock the trans community and I hate it. I know there are multiple people that have “valid” neopronouns, and that use them for real. But the rest is so annoying
@@awcoolcrew8879 I'm sorry if the experiences I had may not match your experience, but I had tons of people who made fun of the trans community ( my community, idk if its yours too ) by using neopronouns, they only see us as "cringey neopronoun users that use rats pronouns" even though most of us dont. And im sorry if I might misspelled this, but I do support neopronouns, I really do, I just think that some cross the line, especially when it comes to internet. Im sorry but people are using literal emoji's. And I didnt mean it in a bad way with "somebody speaking about this" I know there are tons of other issues, but I meant it more as "thanks for informing people about all the stuff thats going on on tiktok ( especially ) because im tired of people using nouns on me and call me weird names, purely because of those people on the internet. Again my biggest excuses if any of this doesnt make sense
@@obama6770 you do realize this is the /exact/ same defense transphobes use? no one is going to immediately attack you for misgendering them, and if they do thats because the person sucks, and has nothing to do with people who use those pronouns as a whole
As a member as the LGBTQ+ I think the whole neopronouns and identifying as animals really made the whole community look like a giant joke, honestly I don’t really care who gets offended because it makes me feel embarrassed to be semi apart of it (we’re not talking about therians, that’s its own community… we’re aware of the difference….)
As someone who is queer themself, when I found out about neopronouns I really tried to be supportive and learn how to use them. But the whole time in the back of my mind I was skeptical and thinking that this whole thing was crazy. If someone went by the pronouns she/her, he/him, they/them or any combination of the 3 I will respect that and call them by such. It’s like people who use neopronouns never had or heard of having a nickname. I believe that neopronouns are why people outside of the community will not take us seriously, I believe that this will and has hurt the lgbtq community.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this very comment. I have had the exact same experience when introduced to neopronouns and I can never wrap my head around it. Same thing with xenogender people. If you do not feel human, do not go out of your way finding a gender/pronoun that "fits you" and instead get help. (And I don't mean get help in a rude way, I mean it as in just get help because I'm pretty sure not feeling human is not normal.)
This is exactly what I meant. Because i think other people forget that they/them pronouns is like the generic pronoun. I don't think it is misgendering when you don't use OVERLY specific neopronouns.
The same happened with me! I tried to be supportive and educate myself in it but after doing my research I just came to the conclusion that it is absolute nonsense
i called someone a “they” a while back and they said to me along the lines of: “Excuse me? That is very rude. My pronouns are GL1T3H👾/GL1T3Hself👾” like bitch you want me to call you what? ill just stick to they, i mean, im sorry-
I also just wanna clarify that I don’t think you gotta “look trans” to be trans (2:40) I was using the bathroom scenario as an example saying you can’t just go into a restroom and claim you’re that gender without any real indication or effort that would just be creepy asf…LIKE DUH. But i can see how it can be misconstrued in that way. anyway this was all fun and jokes at the end of the day, if you’re mad stay mad i can’t help roast you when you’re literally identifying as a bee babe it’s just natural instinct 💋
You only stated facts, I had a traumatic experience when I was a kid in a women's restroom by a guy I didn't know, so I'd be terrified if what appears to be a man just comes in and says it's okay because they're trans. I can't belive people are mad about this...
These neopronouns add so much fuel to the fire when it comes to ACTUAL conservative/homophobic/transphobic people laughing at the LGBTQIA+ community. They're never going to take anything seriously at this point.
It’s so frustrating and completely counterproductive to any goal around trans acceptance. It’s insane that the apache helicopter meme used to be a transphobic joke, but now people are unironically defending the principle behind it.
@@jaspinator5000 Godspeed to you brother. More trans people need to disavow the neopronoun/xenogender position. It’s a losing position and will (hopefully) pass like all fads eventually do.
What’s more frustrating is that these people usually go “But it’s mostly autistic people that use neopronouns! You need to be considerate of the fact they don’t identify the same way as other people.” Okay, I’m autistic and LGBT and I’ve met a bunch of people with autism that are also LGBT that still don’t go around identifying as a chocolate, cream, vampire, goth fox. You’re putting a bad label on not only trans people but autistic people. It almost feels like you’re infantilizing people with autism.
To be honest i met someone in a genderfluid server on discord if i remember? And they were austistic and has a clown/clownself as a pronouns but thats it tbh... They dont also go only with that tho
Xenogenders kind of make the LGBTQ+ community seem more like a fandom than a collection of people who fight/have fought for their right to be ftm, mtf, gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc. They make gender and pronouns seem more like an accessory or something to collect instead of what they're really there for. They act like gender and pronouns are something you can choose when it isn't. It’s stuff like this that makes it easier for the transphobes to say that the LGBTQ+ community it dumb. Liking cats is fine, it’s a personality trait, but it’s not a gender, it’s a noun. Turning your personality into a gender isn’t just silly, but it’s disrespectful to actual transgender people who have fought to be happy.
Exactly! We literally risk our lives just being ourselves and fight for our rights still today, but stuff like that really diminishes everything we as a community has gone through.
yea and they say its how neurodivergent kids express themselves.. but theyre not expressing themselves at all because theyre not an animal nor an object. instead of feeding into their delusions they should encourage them to express themselves better like, a trans man using he/him pronouns.
As a member of the LGBT community I find xeno "genders" extremely ridiculous and unnecessary, but unfortunately nowadays you can't have common sense or make rational criticism because someone so weak minded will send you d3ath threats or will falsely accuse you of being "-phobic", I dislike the largest part of online LGBT spaces
OH MY GOD FR i started to think other "gender identities" are just a load of bs.. like if you're non-binary, genderfluid, i support whole heartedly BUT IF YOU IDENTIFY AS NOTHING OR A FAIRY???? 💀
We need more people speaking up about these kids making a mockery of the community because if they try to represent the LGBT they’re gonna give people the wrong idea by misinforming them.
As a nonbinary person, thank you. My exact point. These are not identities. Making up literally 100S OF PRONOUNS makes the real trans communuty look bad. Its unreal.
I literally laugh every time someone says this. Like, babe that s what ftm and mtf people think about YOU! AND WHAT GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT BISEXUALS AND TRANS PEOPLE AND AROACE. All it is, is people hating to fit in. It's what biracial people do around white people that hate black people, what gays do to lesbians. It's just hating on people to try to fit in better. At the end of the day, people already want you dead
As a member of the LGBTQ+ I 100% agree with this. At this point it’s literally just mocking the trans community and it needs to stop 💀 Edit: Alright guys, please stop replying. It was personally used to mock me when I was out of the closet and I've learned to accept it. Please stop replying I wish you a happy day!
i use they/them pronouns myself, and i'm so glad that you spoke up about this. like, I'm not gonna call you rat 💀💀but I've been called transphobic for not using rat/rats pronouns for this kid at school, like i call them they, but like how is that transphobic 😭😭 i am literally not cis
i love people like you-who have a brain. i'm aroace and i won't be using sin/cos/tg/ctg for people no matter how much they want me to sorry💀he/she/they are normal,the rest is mental illness
I'm an ally, and I tried to understand these neopronoun people for a while, but I just can't. They really piss me off because they're making such a mockery of trans people. Lots of people will see these tiktoks and think that being trans is the same as claiming you're a rat or a demon.
Speaking as a transgender person, I would also agree that xenogenders and neopronouns do cause more stigma around the trans community BUT, it doesn’t mean you can hate/despise people for identifying and using them. Especially since most people that use xenogenders and neopronouns are neurodivergent or autistic and use them since they don’t know any other way to express or identify their gender. Also, identifying with xenogenders technically makes you trans, since it is considered a Non-Binary identity. I don’t really know how I could explain things properly since I’m bad at writing, so I guess if you have any questions about anything or want me to elaborate more on a subject just ask!!
@@ijustsentanairstriketoyourhome I actually have a question, bc Ik not everyone has the same experience with being neurodivergent as me, but I've seen so many other neurodivergent people say they don't understand neopronouns bc they're complicated, plus I just don't understand how a noun can be a pronoun, and lastly why couldn't they just use they/them ? I'm still sorta new to the English language which also kinda makes this complicated but pls know what I mean
I'm trans and I love and support people who use neopronouns and xenogenders. All of my trans friends support and love people with xenogenders and neopronouns. They're not hurting anyone, people are hurting them for being who they are.
I was banned permanently from r/lgbt (i'm gay) for terror-related activities. I posted a single thread commenting how I default to they/them pronouns if someone tells me that their pronouns are zir/zem or something similar. I understand that it's a sensitive issue atm, but IT IS NOT TERROR RELATED. Ravon, i've just discovered you, and it's awesome finding another member of the LGBT community who realises this is a bit much now.
Yeah the lgbt community can be embarrassing as hell sometimes. Like homophobia sucks but tbh some of the hatred is the fault of the community itself for going overboard. It sucks for the rest of us who just wanna exist, but we're being lumped in with insane Twitter people who get all the attention.
I am so glad someone finally talked about this topic, it’s been an unspoken thing for FAR too long. I am in the LGBTQ community but every time I talk about this I have been called homophobic. Thank you for this video Ravon, it lowkey made me comfortable with my thoughts, thank you
i just don't understand them, i know some of them are normal but they be making things that AREN'T pronouns into pronouns like, windowself, what- thats not when neo pronouns meaannnn
@@MaceFace69 i'm an omnisexual person ( or pansexual I'm still figuring myself out) And I can safely say I'm disgusted of these "people" wtf , bee pronous ? Are you fcking amber heard ?!?!!
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO. someone HAD to said that. As a trans person I'm usually called transphobic for not using neopronouns and saying they're harmful for actual trans ppl (they're making us look stupid etc.) and actually at some point I started feeling guilty because of that and was questioning if transition is a good idea cause they gaslighted me into thinking that I'm not valid 💀🫡
I feel that so heavily. I think it's just so sad that us trans and even the nonbinary people are getting hate. I sometimes just feel like letting people misgender me and think I'm not part cuz of the dumbasses 😐😒
I support they/them pronouns. Hell, I even support xe/xim and zer/zim pronouns. But as soon as someone comes up to me tryna tell me they go by “dog/dog self” I’m gonna cry real tears
yeah, she/he/they/ze/xe(even tho idk how to pronounce it), like theyre fine, but i feel like using an animal or whatever word is just making fun of queer ppl.. like when kids wanna pretend to be a cat, but they take it seriously
As a transgender male (he/they) I’m so thank full someone spoke up about this because I feel like our community is being made fun of for things like this. These aren’t Neo pronouns btw there Xenopronouns two different things 💀
It/It’s are also Neopronouns yk pronouns that make sense in the English language. I will respect everyone’s pronouns no matter what but do not use things that insult my community
Transgender male too, literally spoke the truth man. It’s getting harder to say ‘I’m trans’ without being scared that they’re gonna assume that I use xenopronouns(???) if that makes sense 💀
@@ghostofmonstershonestly I feel bad for the decent trans people just trying to live life cause they’re being overshadowed by the “neo pronouns” that are so over the top they make everybody just look bad
i’m a trans guy, and i’m fine with neopronouns as long as they stay online and just for fun/as a coping mechanism. if someone goes out in public and expects to be called demon/demonself by everyone who meets them, they will be in for a very rude awakening.
i can tell that these kinds of “neopronouns” aren’t to make the person in question more comfortable with their gender but instead to feel more “cool,” “quirky,” or “aesthetic,” and i personally believe that it is actually pretty harmful to the community
As a queer, If you have neopronouns (doesn't include they/them) I could'nt give less of a shit. You can do whatever you need to feel comfortable with yourself. I don't mind, I'm not bothered, but I'm not going out of my way to ask what your new pronouns are everyday (had someone actually do this) and then get screamed and yelled at when I'm not going to call you bun/bunself and then two days later you decide you're actually rat/ratself. You can't expect everyone around you to just be walking on eggshells over your pronouns. No one is required to do that, and as long as they aren't purposefully trying to hate crime you over your pronouns, who gives a fu ck if people don't wanna call you a bee? Why do you need every single person do validate you? That's narcissistic, you aren't the center of the universe babes, sorry.
Yes! As a xenopronoun user (and also a pronoun collecter), I’m completely fine if people don’t want to use them as I also use they/she, yes, it is appreciated, but I find there is no need to have an unnecessary argument about what I’d like to be called. Yes, I might add a new xeno to my prnouns, but I’m not expecting anyone to use them if they don’t want to. ^-^
I found how a person defends himself... saying this: "neopronouns ruin the community and are transphobic" - my trans and non-binary friends using neopronouns I am Peruvian and here in Peru those pronouns are not common... but I have seen some on Twitter (minors) but it is not very common. I only find "ELLE/ELLES" pronouns here as neutral pronouns... On the other hand, on Twitter and on Tiktok there are minors who say that their pronouns are xe/xem or xi/xim or it/its (I don't know what their grammar is, sorry), but in English. At least in Latin America there is no such thing as rabbit/rabbit itself, etc... it would completely ruin the community and it would be seen as a fandom that is serious...
same, i’m here for neopronouns that are not too bad (ex. ones i wouldnt use are demon/demonself), and self expression (i’m literally bi and trans), BUT IF YOU SAY YOURE EDDIESEXUAL IM OUT
@miiiiiiiiiirinrin Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more INFORMAL contraction am not; are not; is not. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" has not; have not. "they ain't got nothing to say" Yes it might be an informal word but it still is one.
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrin its not like a single person can just completely change the english language bc they felt like it, stuff like new words or spelling changes have to be widely accepted first to become official
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrin change is a gradual phenomenon, if it's applied to a language the change has to be made by everyone spontaneously and naturally. Not by force
as a trans guy these people make my blood boil. i cant even go outside without getting called a slur just because somebody just decides to call themself "kit/kitself"
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Okay, I'm saying this from the perspective of a queer teenager who isn't from the west. I have been having mixed feelings about neopronouns since I've known abt them from TikTok. Like I understand that people don't always identify he/him or she/her that's why there is they/them. I have asked people to give me reasons why neopronouns are valid and the strongest argument so far is that "English is made up of made-up words" and a person told me before that most people who uses neopronouns are autistic. Personally, if I don't know you and I don't have the time to look at your bio I will use they/them, if I know your name then I will use that, if somehow I looked in your bio and the neopronouns you made for yourself makes sense then I will use it. I have observed that most people who use ridiculous pronouns such as (noun+self) bunself, beeself are white. I saw a tiktok once where a POC discusses how these white folks want to be opressed so bad they will make an issue then they will stretch it. From a perspective of a queer teenager outside of the US, videos like that give me the ick, it reeks of privilege. While I worry about me not having basic rights you worry about neopronouns. Instead of getting mad at people from the internet imma need you to TOUCH SOME GRASS
Fr, I agree as a white teenager also outside of the US. There are people who actually are oppressed and need help to fight with oppression and then there's this group of neousers 😶
I agree with you SO MUCH. as a person who lives in a country where it's LITERALLY ILLEGAL BY LAW TO BE GAY . It just makes me so mad to see these privileged lil kidz whining abt someone not calling them vampireself. And im worrying about not getting in jail for being a transgender man! The contrast is so present and they are too blinded by their own privilege that they are ungrateful for! >:(
I talked to some people who were neopronoun users, well, more like argued with them. I argued that neopronouns are just..very strange, and I’d just like to call you by they/them and not a demon, table stand, or an animal or something. They said it was just for fun and like names for them, and kept getting mad at me. Like, nicknames exist. You do not need neopronouns. You can use the regular pronouns..expect these. Please. That’s all I ask for. I’d rather call them by it or something. They can address themselves by a nickname.
Oml that's so childish of them for, them to get mad at you. You were 101% correct. As a trans person, it disrespects the community and basically makes us look like a joke. Neopronouns are freaking nuts and don't need to exist smfh.
this is so real. honestly, i don’t find ppl using it/itself that bad at all, and i will respect any pronouns, but some pronouns are where i draw the line. i definitely think some people are using neo-pronouns as an accessory more than an identity. an extra thing to make them look cooler. one time my mom (she’s a professor) told me that one of her students said that their roommate identified as a houseplant. A HOUSEPLANT. again, i respect all pronouns and will address people with their preferred pronouns, but i’m not calling anyone houseplant nor using house/plant. 💀
Trans man here myself! Thank you for making this like bro, neopronouns don’t make any sense and I’m tired of pretending that I have to support it because I’m trans. Like I don’t care, I don’t mind, I’m not bothered by it, but I straight up have been called transphobic for not using them 💀
literally!! i cross the line at anything after xe/xem and fae/faer. things like “bee” “meow” and “puppy” aren’t pronouns in my opinion. im sorry, but in the context they are used, you might as well ask me to use it as a nickname. (ex: if ur neopronoun is “rat”, just have it be your nickname. you’ll still be referred to as rat, of course??)
@@akistrapon POV epic person fr, gimme a smooch. Like Rat is a wonderful nickname, I can’t do it as a neopronouns. Neopronouns aren’t objects, they are xe/xim, ze/xim, and etc
@@LobsterTown THIS!! THIS!! THANK YOU AMAZING PERSON 😭😭 Seems like suddenly everyone has forgotten about nicknames, like, they are still a thing why people need to make it a pronoun? 😭 it’s so stupid fr
@@akistrapon for real their sound more like names which are proper nouns than actual pronouns like I understand xe/xem and fae/faes but it gets confusing with rat/fairy/bun it's like im calling someone by their nickname and not their pronoun at this point I'd rather just use their actual name
I'm a trans and diagnosed autistic person and xenopronouns just fucking hurt my head 😭😭 THERE SO CONFUSING ANDB ACTUALLY harmful to the community!! TY TY TY FOR TALKING ABT TGIA LOVW RAVON POOKIE
@@himikotoga2191 fuck u mean? There are plenty of trans people who prefer to call themselves transsexual. Including myself. The new term transgender makes it sound like ur changing ur gender but transsexual means ur changing ur sex to match ur gender. That’s why especially transmedicalists prefer the term transsexual
Hey trans person here. Neo pronouns started fairly normal and I used a couple back in the day. But what frustrates me is most of them are just names! Like girl name yourself bee are you kidding. You know how many non binary people are named bread just make it your name!
I agree. Some of them genuinely confuse me like ofc I don't wanna be rude and the xe/xim ze/zir, cat/catself and etc pronouns are fine to me but those ones genuinely confuse me so if anyone uses them could you please explain? (Sorry if I'm being rude btw)
@Fairy_ch4095 hi I use neopronouns and here is a brief explanation most neopronouns go with xenogenders xenogenders started as terms for trans nerodivergent people to express how they experience gender differently . neopronouns just go with xenogenders as a term to express gender differently such as if someone uses bun/bunself and bunnygender it is when they feel so strongly connected to bunny that it influences there gender hope this helped
@@Autumnnn_017 They/them arent neopronouns, they’re simply pronouns. English is one of the few languages (if not the only one, im not sure) where they/them pronouns dont have a specific gender, and they can be used as a singular pronoun too
@@msilva2423 it was my understanding that they/them are technically considered neopronouns, but maybe I'm wrong idk. I'm cis so I guess I wouldn't know lol
I'm a trans guy, I have trans friends, and my younger sibling is non-binary, and people that use neopronouns have talked to us about how we aren't actually trans(or non-binary in my sibling's case) because we don't use neopronouns and it's c r a z y
it's always such a breath of fresh air when a fellow gay speaks out about this shit, I don't care what you do as long as you aren't forcing your weird neo and xeno pronouns on others and saying they're mandatory
So if someone said to you "Stop forcing everyone to be gay!" its completely and totally wrong, but saying "Stop forcing everyone to use your preferred pronouns!" is perfectly okay and isn't in the slightest bit hypocritical or transphobic?
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrinim not calling someone a bee. And the fact people want someone to use their set of pronouns for only a specific group of people….?? Like?? Isn’t that just a bit a disrespectful💀💀 cmon now.
I’ll support your neopronouns if they can sound and function like a pronoun. The point of a pronoun is to make it so you can talk about someone without using their name over and over. So when you use (Vampire/Vampireself) and your name is Emily ima just use your name because it’s quicker and easier to remember than the pronoun.
@@richardgoranski hello, genuine question here (and i hope you don't get offended),, but does xem stand for anything? or is it just a regular neopronoun
i told my online best friend my honest opinion on neo pronouns, she agreed with me, then a month later she blocked (for like 5 months) me because of it 😨 now im scared to say my opinions to her like mf gonna attack me for having a opinion on furry’s 😭😭
For some time I used neopronouns, but only did bcs of pressure from ppl I knew who used them as well, and as someone who was in close encounter w that community, I believe it’s fair to say it’s really toxic. After some time I realized using those so called “pronouns” didn’t make sense, many of those “friends” called me transphobic (I’m a trans man) and stopped talking to me. I’m glad this is finally being addressed. 🙏🏻🙏🏻😭
yeah, i've also been really confused/concerned about specific neopronouns as well, but i've always seen people who speak up about it recieve visceral amounts of hate, like people calling them transphobic for no valid reason, glad you're speaking up about this.
Exactly. Like I’m all for pronouns that are referring to someone by their right gender and not misgendering people but I won’t say these noun neopronouns because they just straight up aren’t genders. They’re nicknames that people want to be called. They have nothing to do with gender
@@alwayssarc well pronouns don't always equal gender, I identify as a demigirl but my pronouns are she/her, he/him *and* they/them, it's just what I feel comfortable with and I feel comfortable with any pronouns so it's really up to the person what they wanna use
@@alwayssarc yep! Being a demigirl is normally described as like not really fully feeling like a girl? Like being a half-girl For me I don't mind being seen as something else like a boy but I still know I'm a girl, if that makes sense
Ravon, this is so iconic. As a queer person, I don't want to call anyone rat, bee, ant, bun, spark etc. I honestly couldn't give a shit enough to take the time out of my day to hate on these people but as long as they don't force me, I don't care at all; Story time!! One day I was with my best friend, and I've known that she had bun/bun self-neopronouns, but I'd never call her that, one day when I called her a "her" or "they", she got mad at me and started screaming at me in front of the whole school. It was so embarrassing, and it was over stupid pronouns. She had also said she wanted to turn into a bunny, and she was a therian, I just don't get it.
Oh, holy heck, this is bonkers. Okay Therians are a fictional group of shapeshifter in a gay mm romance novel series. I'm a huge fan of those boos and its a cool concept, very sci fi. And very, very not real. Also Therians only tun into predators, not bunnies so she's even got the lore wrong. Now this is a comment I never thought I would type out the world is cray.
She’s using the term therian wrong, therians are just people who believe they were an animal in their past life, it does not mean to IDENTIFY as an animal😟
The thumbnail was enough for me to sigh and say to myself "Ravon girlie, why do you put yourself through this?" Love ur videos though Ravon, you always make me smile. hugs xx Also, as a fellow Goth, WE DO NOT CLAIM THE DEMON PEOPLE
I'm a trans guy who doesn't use neo pronouns and like yeah a lot of the newer ones are wack but I mean they aren't necessarily hurting anyone so I don't really care lmao
I agree, especially since the majority of neopronoun users are neurodivergent. As long as they’re not toxic about they’re pronouns and understand not everyone is gonna get it, idc.
I find this topic… hard to form an opinion on. While I support neopronouns, like xe/xem, ze/zer, etc. I don’t agree with… all of it. I think using a basic variation of binary pronouns like “she” and “he” to create pronouns like “xe” and “ze” is completely normal. I understand that notion of not agreeing with binary gender, even finding the title “non-binary” and pronouns “they/them” to be too… restricting. Like a label you have to fit into. That’s why I agree with the neopronouns movement. Where I find issue with certain neopronouns is when people use them as accessories, clearly not genuinely connected to them and feeling uncomfortable using other pronouns. I think some of these people glorify the LGBTQ+ community and try to be as flamboyant, colourful, and different as possible. While I endorse and AM flamboyant, colourful, and different, it’s sometimes taken to extremes, as people in the community seem to be “battling it out” to see who can have the most random neopronouns. It’s kind of like a… weird competition. And it only seems to exist (to this extreme) among 12 year olds and young teenagers. I also just generally don’t have a clear understanding of identifying as an animal or thing. Gender is binary, it’s a term humans made up to describe the difference between intersex, AMAB and AFAB people. Humans are all just… humans. Gender is something we can mold, but we’re all still humans in the end. Whereas, SPECIES, is not something you can… change. Being a furry, people might call you “cringe” but why? You’re just having fun, dressing up as an animal and such. It’s like cosplay. The ethics of “cringe culture” are complicated and confusing, but at the end of the day, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a furry. I only take issue with therians and people who claim to identify that they’re animals, or sometimes *inanimate objects.* which is… um. Wild. It doesn’t really make sense. My other issue with this extreme shift in the way people are identifying is that it’s making a mockery of the trans community. People who use these (sometimes absurd) neopronouns are kind of mocking other trans people. While me, and other grown trans people, (and even trans teens!) have had to fight to be who they are, whether that was years ago when it was still illegal, or whether it was battling it out with your parents and getting bullied at school for BEING trans - these people who claim to identify as a plethora of random things haven’t fought a day in their life, just young preteens who claim these things on the internet but likely don’t express them to their parents or family. And those that do, well… they usually aren’t accepted with a warm welcome. And while that’s *not good,* I don’t think that people *should* continue to cater to the insane things these young people are claiming to be. Identifying so differently also gives conservatives/republicans more reasons to disrespect and ridicule the trans community. It also creates a divide in the LGBTQ community. I hear people say “I’m gay, but I’m not THAT kind of gay” in order to make themselves seem cooler, trying to disrespect the trans community, labelling them all as “cringe”. They want to be divided from us. Sometimes it’s not necessarily out of truth, but because they don’t want to be bullied by *other gay people* for supporting neopronouns and such. It’s so complicated. Personally, if some teen tells me that they’re ‘catgender’ or a therian, I’m not going to tell them that they’re inherently wrong for identifying that way. I’ll let them figure it out. Let the odd phase they’re going through pass. Homosexuality and transness is not a phase. Not usually. But this an exception. It is almost… a trend. It’s weird, and a little unnerving. I think these kids just need time to figure out who they really are, and stop trying to be cool and different for tiktok. But I’ll say it again: I fully support people who use neopronouns, so long as it doesn’t have to do with being an animal or inanimate object. Those, I find a bit silly, but won’t completely disregard. I don’t want to hurt anybody, y’know? I’ll let people be who they are - if they change, they change. If they stay the same, keep identifying that way as an adult, maybe it really is true. I’m sure I’ll have a solid opinion when I’m *older* but right now, I don’t really know how to feel. But this is kind of… an essay… to explain it. Sorry this was so long lol
"u can identify as anything u want just dont expect everyone to please ur delusion. u cant change the english language and expect everyone to follow along with it" the most true sentence i have ever heard
We went from " Oh yea i like girls" To: "Oh yeah i identify as a bee a wasp a beehive a fairy a mermaid" Edit: I don't wanna be that person but thank you for the likes I've never had this much ever :D
@@Medicinarioum i just found out that ppl have been doing this since the 1400's so lemme rephrase this. peope have been embracing/being more open abt this all in a couple of years (like, 2020)
That's honestly ashaming. Times became so easy for young people they needed to create more issues for themselves. As a trans person, thanks for talking about this Ravon. People need somebody who has enough balls to talk about those gaslighting wannabees (lol).
neopronouns are for the trans autistic community. please understand that we autsitic people have a hard time finalizing our identity and we often cope with using neopronouns. it's juswt an easier way to express ourselves! :3
@@fartforblue what she said^^^ they dont IDENTIFY as the object but they like the feeling the object gives them and they prefer to identify as the feeling
As someone who’s bi, it really embarrasses me to know that people like this exist in the community. I simply like men and women, not any of this other crap Ofc im not gonna belittle you if you use they/them or you’re trans or something But you can’t expect me to use neopronouns, I’m sorry
As a bisexual cis girl I completely get where you're coming from I've been called transphobic for not calling someone fairy/fairyself. I completely respect trans people but fairy/fairyself aren't valid pronouns.
The LGB is something and the TQ+ is something else entirely that is EXTREMELY biphobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and pedophilic. And as a fellow bisexual person, I can’t emphasize enough how gender cult is NOT our community, nor do they represent us at all.
I’m bi too! I also use any pronouns and someone with neo pronouns called me elf. I asked why and they said: “Elf is a neopronoun you uncultured idiot.” … I called them “she” and they started crying.
As a person who's lesbian and cupio, i support neopronouns as long as they aren't problematic or bad, when i was 12 year old i used star/paw/pawself prounons but i don't uses them anymore when i found my true prounons I'm comfortable with.
guys i change my mind i identify as a mole rat
i identify as a nipple ❤️💋
If ravon identifys as a mole rat then I do too 💪🏼🥱
we support you 🙇♀️🙇♀️
You mean "Naked mole rat"?
me too babe me too.
As someone who is trans, thank you so much for saying this. A lot of neopronouns are used to mock the trans community and I hate it. I know there are multiple people that have “valid” neopronouns, and that use them for real. But the rest is so annoying
no theyre not??? only ppl who say that believe that, if everyone in the trans community respected it literally wouldnt be a problem
@Awcool Crew let people have opinions for the love of god
@@Lucixfer.0 no!
@@awcoolcrew8879 I'm sorry if the experiences I had may not match your experience, but I had tons of people who made fun of the trans community ( my community, idk if its yours too ) by using neopronouns, they only see us as "cringey neopronoun users that use rats pronouns" even though most of us dont. And im sorry if I might misspelled this, but I do support neopronouns, I really do, I just think that some cross the line, especially when it comes to internet. Im sorry but people are using literal emoji's.
And I didnt mean it in a bad way with "somebody speaking about this" I know there are tons of other issues, but I meant it more as "thanks for informing people about all the stuff thats going on on tiktok ( especially ) because im tired of people using nouns on me and call me weird names, purely because of those people on the internet.
Again my biggest excuses if any of this doesnt make sense
@@Lucixfer.0 thank you
as a trans person, Ravon is doing gods work rn.
a brave soul
Fr fr
exactly
As a trans person i agree with you
@@cherrycherrylady666 your user lmao
@@no6448 yes lol
“Everyone is judgemental”
Ravon: “as they should be”
I died💀
But that's true
True tho
@Boney I just got u to 2k :)
Invite me to your funeral ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
True tho
“Hii! What are your pronouns? :3”
“Oh! Here’s the menu.”
THIS COMMENT IS SO UNDERATED HAHAHAHAH
I don’t get it
@@Wild_Child189 Whenever I see people show their neopronouns it's usually a image of a long list so I think that's the joke
I identify as a Taco bell Burrito😊
@@N4TURE_4ND_W1NT3R_F4IRY we respect you 🙇♀️
“You can’t just change the English language and expect everyone to just agree with it”
PREACH RAVON PREACHHHHHH
830 likes but no comments??
@@Butt3r.on.pawzzzhow do you even reply to this comment-
this is literally how slang works. we already do this all the time
@@sproutz5014difference is no one is attacked for not knowing/understanding slang 🌚
@@obama6770 you do realize this is the /exact/ same defense transphobes use? no one is going to immediately attack you for misgendering them, and if they do thats because the person sucks, and has nothing to do with people who use those pronouns as a whole
As a member as the LGBTQ+ I think the whole neopronouns and identifying as animals really made the whole community look like a giant joke, honestly I don’t really care who gets offended because it makes me feel embarrassed to be semi apart of it (we’re not talking about therians, that’s its own community… we’re aware of the difference….)
Same girl
im also pretty sure neopronouns were made by someone on 4chan to mock trans people
Same
Anything past they is dumb imo
Same
as someone who goes by any pronouns and doesn’t care how I’m perceived, that does NOT MEAN I WANT PEOPLE CALLING ME A RAT OR A BUG 😭
okay
NO DEADASS SAME
LITERALLY ME. LIKE I USE ANY PRONOUNS BUT I DONT WANNA BE CALLED TOILETPAPER/TOILETPAPERSELF
Ok? It's someone's neopronouns, not yours ☠️🙏
@v01dbugzz but you don't even use those then, you won't be called them if you don't want to
THE OOMPA/LOOMPA THING IS JUST SO FUNNY I'M CRYING
Ravon is always iconic. He never fails to make me laugh!
did u even watch the video..
@@addy-r8z yes..
@@addy-r8z fr, what I was thinking...
@@addy-r8z what you mean
like period.
i love how he can be so open and roast somone at the same time and it feel respecktple
Respectful*?
@@anastasiajunitaaznar2768 nah I think they spelled respecktple right
@@Mkk_does_art nah I think u spelt respecktple right
@@anastasiajunitaaznar2768 respectable*
@@anastasiajunitaaznar2768 no, respecktple. they typed it right, what r u on
As someone who is queer themself, when I found out about neopronouns I really tried to be supportive and learn how to use them. But the whole time in the back of my mind I was skeptical and thinking that this whole thing was crazy. If someone went by the pronouns she/her, he/him, they/them or any combination of the 3 I will respect that and call them by such. It’s like people who use neopronouns never had or heard of having a nickname. I believe that neopronouns are why people outside of the community will not take us seriously, I believe that this will and has hurt the lgbtq community.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this very comment. I have had the exact same experience when introduced to neopronouns and I can never wrap my head around it. Same thing with xenogender people. If you do not feel human, do not go out of your way finding a gender/pronoun that "fits you" and instead get help. (And I don't mean get help in a rude way, I mean it as in just get help because I'm pretty sure not feeling human is not normal.)
This is exactly what I meant. Because i think other people forget that they/them pronouns is like the generic pronoun. I don't think it is misgendering when you don't use OVERLY specific neopronouns.
The same happened with me! I tried to be supportive and educate myself in it but after doing my research I just came to the conclusion that it is absolute nonsense
Exactly! its just a glorified nickname used by kids who want to be special
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"My pronouns are 🌸/🌸self!"
I am NOT calling you that💀
i called someone a “they” a while back and they said to me along the lines of:
“Excuse me? That is very rude. My pronouns are GL1T3H👾/GL1T3Hself👾”
like bitch you want me to call you what? ill just stick to they, i mean, im sorry-
How do you even say that?? 😭😭
@@AKA_Eliy NO LIKE FR HOW?? DO YOU JUST SAY "bro it's *flowerself's* cookie!!"
@@D4RLING_D4NCE PINK FLOWER EMOJI
@@D4RLING_D4NCEits more of a text thing but yeah its odd im not using emojis
I also just wanna clarify that I don’t think you gotta “look trans” to be trans (2:40) I was using the bathroom scenario as an example saying you can’t just go into a restroom and claim you’re that gender without any real indication or effort that would just be creepy asf…LIKE DUH. But i can see how it can be misconstrued in that way. anyway this was all fun and jokes at the end of the day, if you’re mad stay mad i can’t help roast you when you’re literally identifying as a bee babe it’s just natural instinct 💋
no one is still mad dw
btw im a big fan
Facts
"If you mad, stay mad we not alike. S A V A G E, keep it pretty pretty savage."
I had to do it, sorry!
You only stated facts, I had a traumatic experience when I was a kid in a women's restroom by a guy I didn't know, so I'd be terrified if what appears to be a man just comes in and says it's okay because they're trans. I can't belive people are mad about this...
@@bbycherub2420 FR, im a trans guy, but im not gonna walk into a mens bathroom looking like the average woman
These neopronouns add so much fuel to the fire when it comes to ACTUAL conservative/homophobic/transphobic people laughing at the LGBTQIA+ community. They're never going to take anything seriously at this point.
exactly what im saying!! im a trans guy myself and all of these neopronouns make it so much harder to get rights
@jas!! I'm sorry for the added struggle this causes. Remember there's always more people with you than against you 🩷🤍🩵
Idk tbh I feel like the community is ripping each other apart and ruining themselves
It’s so frustrating and completely counterproductive to any goal around trans acceptance. It’s insane that the apache helicopter meme used to be a transphobic joke, but now people are unironically defending the principle behind it.
@@jaspinator5000 Godspeed to you brother. More trans people need to disavow the neopronoun/xenogender position. It’s a losing position and will (hopefully) pass like all fads eventually do.
What’s more frustrating is that these people usually go “But it’s mostly autistic people that use neopronouns! You need to be considerate of the fact they don’t identify the same way as other people.” Okay, I’m autistic and LGBT and I’ve met a bunch of people with autism that are also LGBT that still don’t go around identifying as a chocolate, cream, vampire, goth fox. You’re putting a bad label on not only trans people but autistic people. It almost feels like you’re infantilizing people with autism.
EXACTLY
To be honest i met someone in a genderfluid server on discord if i remember? And they were austistic and has a clown/clownself as a pronouns but thats it tbh... They dont also go only with that tho
Xenogenders kind of make the LGBTQ+
community seem more like a fandom than a
collection of people who fight/have fought for
their right to be ftm, mtf, gay, lesbian, bisexual,
etc. They make gender and pronouns seem more
like an accessory or something to collect instead
of what they're really there for. They act like
gender and pronouns are something you can
choose when it isn't. It’s stuff like this that makes it easier for the transphobes to say that the LGBTQ+ community it dumb. Liking cats is fine, it’s a personality trait, but it’s not a gender, it’s a noun. Turning your personality into a gender isn’t just silly, but it’s disrespectful to actual transgender people who have fought to be happy.
Exactly! We literally risk our lives just being ourselves and fight for our rights still today, but stuff like that really diminishes everything we as a community has gone through.
HONESTLY😬
fr like wtf is catgender...
@@nepotism_doll FRR💀
The facts you spitting up in here👏👏👏
I feel like some people forget nicknames exist.
OMG FR
Yes!
That’s exactly what I was thinking if you want to be called bee just say that 😒
yea and they say its how neurodivergent kids express themselves.. but theyre not expressing themselves at all because theyre not an animal nor an object. instead of feeding into their delusions they should encourage them to express themselves better like, a trans man using he/him pronouns.
FR
Yall I think we have to agree that Ravons humor is the best thing ever fr
agreed 👍
yup 🤫
hes perfect
Definitely agreed
Yes
As a member of the LGBT community I find xeno "genders" extremely ridiculous and unnecessary, but unfortunately nowadays you can't have common sense or make rational criticism because someone so weak minded will send you d3ath threats or will falsely accuse you of being "-phobic", I dislike the largest part of online LGBT spaces
OH MY GOD FR i started to think other "gender identities" are just a load of bs.. like if you're non-binary, genderfluid, i support whole heartedly BUT IF YOU IDENTIFY AS NOTHING OR A FAIRY???? 💀
I don’t use a xenogender but they’re for people who can’t grasp the concept of gender.
Xenogenders are often used by autistic people (like myself) because we have a difficult time understanding the traditional concept of gender.
@@Jeckolenation what doe sthis mean is it really that hard to understand
@@Jeckolenation i see class of 09 so yay
But like literally how
I'm so glad someone is talking about this and not being hateful but pointing out that there is a line and it has been crossed
Facts
Fr fr
Ong I thought I am just a hateful person for thinking that (but didn't care anyways lol) but I see i am not the only one
Facts
Nobody is hurting you with neopronouns. Grow up
Once he said “ babe, I’m gonna eat you” to the cow, I can already hear the vegan teacher
i can hear her spawn like an enderman
@@ravon ikr 😂
@@ravon be for real you’ll hear her spawn like a skeleton. As she shakes them bones
@@teagan3315 LMAO THIS WAS FUNNY NGL
omg ryujin in ur pfp taste
Love that finally someone in the LGBT was brave enough to speak out
We need more people speaking up about these kids making a mockery of the community because if they try to represent the LGBT they’re gonna give people the wrong idea by misinforming them.
Boo ! i use neopronouns wtf you gonna do abt it
@@astersucks Nothing 💀 lmao
@@theangrykittycat2256 then stop pissing your pants over people who use them
@@astersucks Huh? Lmao
You're saying what I'm thinking. They aren't using pronouns, they're using NOUNS. Have these people ever taken an English class?
In America it's 1st grade to 2nd grade English. The easiest English to understand it's kinda sad tbh
As a nonbinary person, thank you. My exact point. These are not identities. Making up literally 100S OF PRONOUNS makes the real trans communuty look bad. Its unreal.
Hate to break it to you but you're not the real trans community either.
As a binary person, i can't relate.
@@Combust75 01001000 01000101 01001100 01001100 01001111
I literally laugh every time someone says this. Like, babe that s what ftm and mtf people think about YOU! AND WHAT GAY AND LESBIAN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT BISEXUALS AND TRANS PEOPLE AND AROACE. All it is, is people hating to fit in. It's what biracial people do around white people that hate black people, what gays do to lesbians. It's just hating on people to try to fit in better. At the end of the day, people already want you dead
As a nonbinary person I totally agree with you.
i’m supportive but these have to be jokes
Cg your first
same bruh
fr ☠️
Fr 😭
SAME
As a member of the LGBTQ+ I 100% agree with this. At this point it’s literally just mocking the trans community and it needs to stop 💀
Edit: Alright guys, please stop replying. It was personally used to mock me when I was out of the closet and I've learned to accept it. Please stop replying I wish you a happy day!
LGBT*
@@unixguyy LGBTQ+*
@@Lavender_x.shortcake You can say both lol
@@uweirdo238 no don't you get? it they have to include the whole alphabet next year they'll add the S for straight for "inclusion✨"
@@unixguyy ? Wtf are you saying bro ? Doesn’t have to do anything with what I said + what do you mean about that 🤨
As someone in the trans community and is autistic, the fact these people try to claim its for autistic trans folk is borderline offensive.
yes, im autistic and also a transboy. I find neopronouns so dumb. Its mostly the mfs who fake autism as well 😭
Fr😭 I’m tired of them bringing autistic/nd ppl into this garbage fire bc it makes us all look fucking stupid
@@dylricfr same
i use they/them pronouns myself, and i'm so glad that you spoke up about this. like, I'm not gonna call you rat 💀💀but I've been called transphobic for not using rat/rats pronouns for this kid at school, like i call them they, but like how is that transphobic 😭😭 i am literally not cis
Literally I get called transphobic for not understanding/disliking whatever pronouns these bozos got.
I feel like im offending someone if I call them a rat like idk how to explain it but it just seems rude for me 😭
I feel like everyone should at least accept they/them because of how it’s neutral, I don’t know
Im okay with neos and by that I mean it/its, Xe/Xem/, Ze/Zer, etc. BUT IF YOU CALL ME A RAT??? WTF???
i love people like you-who have a brain. i'm aroace and i won't be using sin/cos/tg/ctg for people no matter how much they want me to sorry💀he/she/they are normal,the rest is mental illness
I'm an ally, and I tried to understand these neopronoun people for a while, but I just can't. They really piss me off because they're making such a mockery of trans people. Lots of people will see these tiktoks and think that being trans is the same as claiming you're a rat or a demon.
SAME
Speaking as a transgender person, I would also agree that xenogenders and neopronouns do cause more stigma around the trans community BUT, it doesn’t mean you can hate/despise people for identifying and using them. Especially since most people that use xenogenders and neopronouns are neurodivergent or autistic and use them since they don’t know any other way to express or identify their gender. Also, identifying with xenogenders technically makes you trans, since it is considered a Non-Binary identity. I don’t really know how I could explain things properly since I’m bad at writing, so I guess if you have any questions about anything or want me to elaborate more on a subject just ask!!
@@ijustsentanairstriketoyourhome I actually have a question, bc Ik not everyone has the same experience with being neurodivergent as me, but I've seen so many other neurodivergent people say they don't understand neopronouns bc they're complicated, plus I just don't understand how a noun can be a pronoun, and lastly why couldn't they just use they/them ? I'm still sorta new to the English language which also kinda makes this complicated but pls know what I mean
I'm trans and I love and support people who use neopronouns and xenogenders. All of my trans friends support and love people with xenogenders and neopronouns. They're not hurting anyone, people are hurting them for being who they are.
mayb listen to trans ppl.. ur not a ally
I was banned permanently from r/lgbt (i'm gay) for terror-related activities. I posted a single thread commenting how I default to they/them pronouns if someone tells me that their pronouns are zir/zem or something similar. I understand that it's a sensitive issue atm, but IT IS NOT TERROR RELATED. Ravon, i've just discovered you, and it's awesome finding another member of the LGBT community who realises this is a bit much now.
And now they think you're a terrorist 💀💀💀sorry that happened to you bro
@@blindbandit9579 it's alr. Showed a lot about the community tbh
Yeah the lgbt community can be embarrassing as hell sometimes. Like homophobia sucks but tbh some of the hatred is the fault of the community itself for going overboard. It sucks for the rest of us who just wanna exist, but we're being lumped in with insane Twitter people who get all the attention.
Ooof, that Reddit is another toxic can of worms. Believe me, most subreddits are full of entitled people
I agree lol!!! I'm bisex and "genderless" since idc if people call me she/him/they but this beeself and shit wtf I'm scared of the younger gen of gays
3:58 "faer" probably the kinda person to call u out for assuming ur cat's sexuality 💀
lmao seriously though
I am so glad someone finally talked about this topic, it’s been an unspoken thing for FAR too long. I am in the LGBTQ community but every time I talk about this I have been called homophobic. Thank you for this video Ravon, it lowkey made me comfortable with my thoughts, thank you
Not all neopronoun users are weird, I can promise yall
Exactly, but I feel some take it too far
i just don't understand them, i know some of them are normal but they be making things that AREN'T pronouns into pronouns like, windowself, what- thats not when neo pronouns meaannnn
@@MaceFace69 i'm an omnisexual person ( or pansexual I'm still figuring myself out)
And I can safely say I'm disgusted of these "people" wtf , bee pronous ? Are you fcking amber heard ?!?!!
im trans and some of them deadass just feel like mocking
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO. someone HAD to said that. As a trans person I'm usually called transphobic for not using neopronouns and saying they're harmful for actual trans ppl (they're making us look stupid etc.) and actually at some point I started feeling guilty because of that and was questioning if transition is a good idea cause they gaslighted me into thinking that I'm not valid 💀🫡
Cool dude? I use dude for any pronouns doesn’t matter if there a girl a boy or any pronouns I say dude to everyone, unless they don’t like it
Don't feel guilty for these kind of people. You are apart of this community, they are not. Big difference
PREACH, as a trans person from a homophobic country, who constantly have to ACTUALLY FIGHT for my rights. Neopronouns are a fucking joke
YOU ARE VALID BABE. Do not let others bring you down :( x
I feel that so heavily. I think it's just so sad that us trans and even the nonbinary people are getting hate. I sometimes just feel like letting people misgender me and think I'm not part cuz of the dumbasses 😐😒
I support they/them pronouns. Hell, I even support xe/xim and zer/zim pronouns. But as soon as someone comes up to me tryna tell me they go by “dog/dog self” I’m gonna cry real tears
You’re so real for that 😭💀
yeah, she/he/they/ze/xe(even tho idk how to pronounce it), like theyre fine, but i feel like using an animal or whatever word is just making fun of queer ppl.. like when kids wanna pretend to be a cat, but they take it seriously
The fuck is a... the fuck is a Xe/Xim-
Tf is xe/xim zer/zim
@@LM.312 idek
0:17 killed me!!💀
I started dying laughing 😭😭😭
As a transgender male (he/they) I’m so thank full someone spoke up about this because I feel like our community is being made fun of for things like this. These aren’t Neo pronouns btw there Xenopronouns two different things 💀
Neo pronouns are They/They,Xe/Xem,Xim/Xir where as Xeno pronouns are objects,things or animals
Neo pronouns are pronouns where Xeno pronouns is using objects and or creatures to identify yourself 👌🏽
It/It’s are also Neopronouns yk pronouns that make sense in the English language. I will respect everyone’s pronouns no matter what but do not use things that insult my community
Transgender male too, literally spoke the truth man. It’s getting harder to say ‘I’m trans’ without being scared that they’re gonna assume that I use xenopronouns(???) if that makes sense 💀
@@ghostofmonstershonestly I feel bad for the decent trans people just trying to live life cause they’re being overshadowed by the “neo pronouns” that are so over the top they make everybody just look bad
RAV YOU SAVED ME FROM THE DEPRESSION OF STUDYING MATH 💔😭
You’ll make it out alive 😢
Fr fr
Me too but i was doing psychology. He's a lifesaver fr
Me too, I’m in my final year of school and I’m suffering 🥹
Babe do ur woorkkkk
i’m a trans guy, and i’m fine with neopronouns as long as they stay online and just for fun/as a coping mechanism. if someone goes out in public and expects to be called demon/demonself by everyone who meets them, they will be in for a very rude awakening.
I agree honestly!
I agree too
Yeah no I only expect people to use my neopronouns online lmao
@@_exolite As a person who hates them
I honestly think it's very valid using them only online and not in irl
THIS. TBHH
i can tell that these kinds of “neopronouns” aren’t to make the person in question more comfortable with their gender but instead to feel more “cool,” “quirky,” or “aesthetic,” and i personally believe that it is actually pretty harmful to the community
Neo pronouns were invented to disrespect trans people and nonbinary people
I use fae/faer and xe/xir pronouns for srs not as a joke
1:46 "You look more like a Oompa Loompa" I CAN'T BREATHE
“Oompa, loompa, doopity dee
My pronouns are fairy and bee”
I’m sorry I’ll see myself out 😭
@@LiaBlizznah wait come back😂
Ravon said that so casually 😭
@@LiaBlizzthis made me wheeze 😂
@@LiaBlizzthat’s so good😭😭😭
As a queer, If you have neopronouns (doesn't include they/them) I could'nt give less of a shit. You can do whatever you need to feel comfortable with yourself. I don't mind, I'm not bothered, but I'm not going out of my way to ask what your new pronouns are everyday (had someone actually do this) and then get screamed and yelled at when I'm not going to call you bun/bunself and then two days later you decide you're actually rat/ratself. You can't expect everyone around you to just be walking on eggshells over your pronouns. No one is required to do that, and as long as they aren't purposefully trying to hate crime you over your pronouns, who gives a fu ck if people don't wanna call you a bee? Why do you need every single person do validate you? That's narcissistic, you aren't the center of the universe babes, sorry.
YES.
Most of xenopronouns users use multiple pronouns
This sums up my thoughts and opinions perfectly
I feel like you read my mind
But fr
Yes! As a xenopronoun user (and also a pronoun collecter), I’m completely fine if people don’t want to use them as I also use they/she, yes, it is appreciated, but I find there is no need to have an unnecessary argument about what I’d like to be called. Yes, I might add a new xeno to my prnouns, but I’m not expecting anyone to use them if they don’t want to. ^-^
10:53 as a trans man i feel it does harm transgender people because it makes people feel like our community is some chronically online joke
Same with non binary people
It makes it seem like some weird fandom instead of an identity
I found how a person defends himself... saying this:
"neopronouns ruin the community and are transphobic"
- my trans and non-binary friends using neopronouns
I am Peruvian and here in Peru those pronouns are not common... but I have seen some on Twitter (minors) but it is not very common.
I only find "ELLE/ELLES" pronouns here as neutral pronouns...
On the other hand, on Twitter and on Tiktok there are minors who say that their pronouns are xe/xem or xi/xim or it/its (I don't know what their grammar is, sorry), but in English.
At least in Latin America there is no such thing as rabbit/rabbit itself, etc... it would completely ruin the community and it would be seen as a fandom that is serious...
@@Frutigeraero06 cope
@@Frutigeraero06i definitely don't agree with that, being non binary is understandable
This is way off topic but YOURE REALLY HANDSOME AND BEATIFUL😩✋️
Real 😭
if i ever meet someone who says "im Eddiesexual!" or "my pronouns are demon/demonself." im sprinting 💀
its gone to far 💀
FR THO
like i’m all abt self expression BUT OMFG WHAT- 💀💀
@@snoopys.sweater ON GOD
NAH i will LITERALLY ship myself out of earth to mars cause what the fuck is eddiesexual 💀
same, i’m here for neopronouns that are not too bad (ex. ones i wouldnt use are demon/demonself), and self expression (i’m literally bi and trans), BUT IF YOU SAY YOURE EDDIESEXUAL IM OUT
“Beeself” all i think of is a fucking muscular bee 🤭🫠
HELP ABSHSHSA
LMAO
Ya like jazz??
MUSCULAR BEE-
first comment i see and im getting weird ideas
The fact that this man can slay anyone in just 2 seconds
excuse me ittos what now????
huh..
Makes no sense lol its missuse of aave
..
@@elyphis2105girl shut up
i have literally rewatched this video so many times and it never gets old
I can understand using neopronouns on an online space, however, it’s quite an unnatural way of speaking one on one
there almost entirly used online, so ya
i mean the kinds of people who use these pronouns are chronically online, so I don't think you have to worry
Frr
Bro yk that’s just a form of self expression ? And was made for and by neurodivergent people 😭😭
@@bennybugs4768 so?? I’m gonna feel super odd in public if i am talking with a group of people and have to call someone “bunself” 💀💀
there’s a kid at my school that identifies has rat/rats and it scares me he’s growled at me before 😭
OML😭
It's not that hard to respect rats pronouns 💀
BABE RUN
Gurl , run
OMG i feel so bad girl just run and never look back bro.😭😥
“You cant just change the English language and expect everyone to go along with it” REALLLL
as if that doesn't happen every day in every language. I still don't full know if "ain't" has been considered a real word yet
@miiiiiiiiiirinrin Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
INFORMAL
contraction
am not; are not; is not.
"if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
has not; have not.
"they ain't got nothing to say"
Yes it might be an informal word but it still is one.
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrin its not like a single person can just completely change the english language bc they felt like it, stuff like new words or spelling changes have to be widely accepted first to become official
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrin change is a gradual phenomenon, if it's applied to a language the change has to be made by everyone spontaneously and naturally. Not by force
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrin ain't is aave
4:48 “JOKES IN YOU BABE I DONT HAVE A SOUL-“ 😭
as a trans guy these people make my blood boil. i cant even go outside without getting called a slur just because somebody just decides to call themself "kit/kitself"
@Aram🇵🇭 ty!
Nice pfp but that's my husband pls stop kidnapping him it's very offensive
Hello sir I just want to remind you that the man in your pfp is legally married to me we have 6 children 15 monkeys 4 dogs and 96 cats please you are gonna make 6 children 15 monkeys 4 dogs and 96 cats fatherless because you are so selfish so please leave my Simon alone and bring him home if he doesn't get pegged by me every 5 hours he gets brain cancer because of no sex and he will fucking explode so please let me see my husband again and bring him home
@@thealieninyourass5287 naur hes my husband
@@kirvish520 BRING HIM HOME 😰😰😰😰😨😨😨😨😨😨!!!!!!! HE WILL DIE OF BRAIN CANCER PLSSSS
Okay, I'm saying this from the perspective of a queer teenager who isn't from the west. I have been having mixed feelings about neopronouns since I've known abt them from TikTok. Like I understand that people don't always identify he/him or she/her that's why there is they/them. I have asked people to give me reasons why neopronouns are valid and the strongest argument so far is that "English is made up of made-up words" and a person told me before that most people who uses neopronouns are autistic.
Personally, if I don't know you and I don't have the time to look at your bio I will use they/them, if I know your name then I will use that, if somehow I looked in your bio and the neopronouns you made for yourself makes sense then I will use it. I have observed that most people who use ridiculous pronouns such as (noun+self) bunself, beeself are white. I saw a tiktok once where a POC discusses how these white folks want to be opressed so bad they will make an issue then they will stretch it. From a perspective of a queer teenager outside of the US, videos like that give me the ick, it reeks of privilege. While I worry about me not having basic rights you worry about neopronouns. Instead of getting mad at people from the internet imma need you to TOUCH SOME GRASS
what does color have to do with this? it's crazy people not the whole white community babe
i love ur prospective so much
Fr, I agree as a white teenager also outside of the US. There are people who actually are oppressed and need help to fight with oppression and then there's this group of neousers 😶
REAL.
I agree with you SO MUCH. as a person who lives in a country where it's LITERALLY ILLEGAL BY LAW TO BE GAY . It just makes me so mad to see these privileged lil kidz whining abt someone not calling them vampireself. And im worrying about not getting in jail for being a transgender man! The contrast is so present and they are too blinded by their own privilege that they are ungrateful for! >:(
Ravon always makes my day 10x better ❤
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE LIKES ❤
🥰
Ravon always makes everyone’s day better.
I love ravons channel like I will watch all his videos 300 times
Damnnn.. yall love a man for being openly transphobic huh
I talked to some people who were neopronoun users, well, more like argued with them. I argued that neopronouns are just..very strange, and I’d just like to call you by they/them and not a demon, table stand, or an animal or something. They said it was just for fun and like names for them, and kept getting mad at me. Like, nicknames exist. You do not need neopronouns. You can use the regular pronouns..expect these. Please. That’s all I ask for. I’d rather call them by it or something. They can address themselves by a nickname.
Oml that's so childish of them for, them to get mad at you. You were 101% correct. As a trans person, it disrespects the community and basically makes us look like a joke. Neopronouns are freaking nuts and don't need to exist smfh.
this is so real. honestly, i don’t find ppl using it/itself that bad at all, and i will respect any pronouns, but some pronouns are where i draw the line. i definitely think some people are using neo-pronouns as an accessory more than an identity. an extra thing to make them look cooler. one time my mom (she’s a professor) told me that one of her students said that their roommate identified as a houseplant. A HOUSEPLANT. again, i respect all pronouns and will address people with their preferred pronouns, but i’m not calling anyone houseplant nor using house/plant. 💀
Trans man here myself! Thank you for making this like bro, neopronouns don’t make any sense and I’m tired of pretending that I have to support it because I’m trans. Like I don’t care, I don’t mind, I’m not bothered by it, but I straight up have been called transphobic for not using them 💀
literally!! i cross the line at anything after xe/xem and fae/faer. things like “bee” “meow” and “puppy” aren’t pronouns in my opinion. im sorry, but in the context they are used, you might as well ask me to use it as a nickname. (ex: if ur neopronoun is “rat”, just have it be your nickname. you’ll still be referred to as rat, of course??)
@@akistrapon POV epic person fr, gimme a smooch. Like Rat is a wonderful nickname, I can’t do it as a neopronouns.
Neopronouns aren’t objects, they are xe/xim, ze/xim, and etc
@@LobsterTown THIS!! THIS!! THANK YOU AMAZING PERSON 😭😭
Seems like suddenly everyone has forgotten about nicknames, like, they are still a thing why people need to make it a pronoun? 😭 it’s so stupid fr
ONG, and plus some neopronouns are so hard to pronounce like im not gonna call you fae or bun
@@akistrapon for real their sound more like names which are proper nouns than actual pronouns like I understand xe/xem and fae/faes but it gets confusing with rat/fairy/bun it's like im calling someone by their nickname and not their pronoun at this point I'd rather just use their actual name
I'm a trans and diagnosed autistic person and xenopronouns just fucking hurt my head 😭😭 THERE SO CONFUSING ANDB ACTUALLY harmful to the community!! TY TY TY FOR TALKING ABT TGIA LOVW RAVON POOKIE
Fr im also Autistic, and this so confusing to me also 😭
im autistic and i get them and respect them but i personally dont go by neo pronouns
As a transsexual thank you for speaking on this. I see a lot of people are calling you transphobic but you’re literally just speaking the truth.
no trans person refers to themselves as a transsexual
@@himikotoga2191 fuck u mean? There are plenty of trans people who prefer to call themselves transsexual. Including myself. The new term transgender makes it sound like ur changing ur gender but transsexual means ur changing ur sex to match ur gender. That’s why especially transmedicalists prefer the term transsexual
@@iby_xu same as transgender but without the neopronoun bullshit
@@coolkairos1041 cool thanks
@@himikotoga2191 trender decindin what actual trans people do or dont.
Hey trans person here. Neo pronouns started fairly normal and I used a couple back in the day. But what frustrates me is most of them are just names! Like girl name yourself bee are you kidding. You know how many non binary people are named bread just make it your name!
I agree. Some of them genuinely confuse me like ofc I don't wanna be rude and the xe/xim ze/zir, cat/catself and etc pronouns are fine to me but those ones genuinely confuse me so if anyone uses them could you please explain? (Sorry if I'm being rude btw)
@Fairy_ch4095 hi I use neopronouns and here is a brief explanation most neopronouns go with xenogenders xenogenders started as terms for trans nerodivergent people to express how they experience gender differently . neopronouns just go with xenogenders as a term to express gender differently such as if someone uses bun/bunself and bunnygender it is when they feel so strongly connected to bunny that it influences there gender hope this helped
@Careful_zagebites tysm!
My day is allways better when ravon uploads
Same 😌
AAH I THOUGHT THAT SAID DAD AS IN "MY DAD IS ALWAYS..." LMAO
@@ImagineBeinYu 🤣
@@that_countryball You are a demon deer boy that is old fashioned and constantly sexualized on the internet
@@ImagineBeinYu WHY DID I THINK THAT TOO PLS WE’RE DELUSIONAL
i love how he gets the point across in a funny way without deeply offending someone, i love ravons humor
@Elle Stuart FOR REAL like cmon now if ur offended ur chronically online...
I like how you gave a VERY brief intro, neopronouns are a sensitive topic. there are actual neopronouns then there's bs.
Yeah too many people make jokes about neopronouns and then people think it’s super weird and won’t even consider respecting them 💀
right! like people forget that they/them are neopronouns too
@@Autumnnn_017 They/them are not neopronouns. They're pronouns directly meant to express beyond they/them.
@@Autumnnn_017 They/them arent neopronouns, they’re simply pronouns. English is one of the few languages (if not the only one, im not sure) where they/them pronouns dont have a specific gender, and they can be used as a singular pronoun too
@@msilva2423 it was my understanding that they/them are technically considered neopronouns, but maybe I'm wrong idk. I'm cis so I guess I wouldn't know lol
I'm a trans guy, I have trans friends, and my younger sibling is non-binary, and people that use neopronouns have talked to us about how we aren't actually trans(or non-binary in my sibling's case) because we don't use neopronouns and it's c r a z y
it's always such a breath of fresh air when a fellow gay speaks out about this shit, I don't care what you do as long as you aren't forcing your weird neo and xeno pronouns on others and saying they're mandatory
Exactly. I’m like omg another queer person that’s like me speaking out about this nonsense
ya a transphobic gay..
So if someone said to you "Stop forcing everyone to be gay!" its completely and totally wrong, but saying "Stop forcing everyone to use your preferred pronouns!" is perfectly okay and isn't in the slightest bit hypocritical or transphobic?
@@miiiiiiiiiirinrinim not calling someone a bee. And the fact people want someone to use their set of pronouns for only a specific group of people….?? Like?? Isn’t that just a bit a disrespectful💀💀 cmon now.
I’ll support your neopronouns if they can sound and function like a pronoun. The point of a pronoun is to make it so you can talk about someone without using their name over and over. So when you use (Vampire/Vampireself) and your name is Emily ima just use your name because it’s quicker and easier to remember than the pronoun.
I agree with that statement.
Completely agreed!
I agree!!
True.
I use he/him and xe/xem but like… vamp/vampself is like… so ur a vampire oorrrr…?
@@richardgoranski hello, genuine question here (and i hope you don't get offended),, but does xem stand for anything? or is it just a regular neopronoun
nah the girl who said she indentifies as a bee/fairy lowkey looks like james charles girl bye 😭
You're Right!
Not bro purposefully misgendering people💀💀
@@PUPPY._.L0V3S._.Y0U the person who made this comment probaly just looked at the appearance and voice
“I identify as rat/ratself”
I AM NOT CALLING YOU THAT
Real 😂
9:54 as a bullying victim, this made me laugh 😭😭
ravon's new pronouns are now= ban/banana/bananas
ba/nana/nananas
Nah it slay/gorgeous/RAVON
Ravon/banana/nanan/Ravonself
😻🤑👑🤗
*Minions have entered the chat*
u forgot bananself and banananan
THE MIKU ONE IM CRYINGGHGHH
I always say "I'm open to Everything!" but this... Maybe I should start ssying "ALMOST everything"😭
I’m literally in the LGBTQ but these neopronouns are getting crazy.😭
Yup😭 some of them (in my opinion) are beginning to get kinda transphobic- as a trans biromantic myself these ppl scare me 😭 glad we agree!
Neopronouns:
3:33
Yeah just use nicknames 😭
i love people in the lgbtq community who are ACTUALLY SANE istg
Same.
same 😭😭
their making the lgbtq looik like a fandom
Fr-
basically is
fr-
@@obama6770 its a community
@@amnesiaa0 sure buddy
5:33 your so real for this😂
IKR how come no one else talked about that
i told my online best friend my honest opinion on neo pronouns, she agreed with me, then a month later she blocked (for like 5 months) me because of it 😨 now im scared to say my opinions to her like mf gonna attack me for having a opinion on furry’s 😭😭
That sucks :C
You definitely can make better best friends instead of being scared to tell an opinion that does not intent to hurt anyone!
@@Киднеюшка-э3п aaa youre so sweet ily
its okey to have opinions hunny, most of us think the same as u ;), atleast we are educated
@@รเเ-จ9ฒ i dropped them a month ago 😻 i’d love to b ur friend omg ??! ✊✊
Gotta be careful because you'd be sliced for having an opinion 😅
The way YOU ATE EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP.
For some time I used neopronouns, but only did bcs of pressure from ppl I knew who used them as well, and as someone who was in close encounter w that community, I believe it’s fair to say it’s really toxic. After some time I realized using those so called “pronouns” didn’t make sense, many of those “friends” called me transphobic (I’m a trans man) and stopped talking to me. I’m glad this is finally being addressed. 🙏🏻🙏🏻😭
I’m so sorry for you :((
Naur fr it's highkey a weird cult mentality with a lot of those kinds of ppl...from a fellow trans guy I'm sorry u had to deal with that. Ugh.
Not saying I agree or disagree, but you can be transphobic and be trans
Uhm... I'm not entirely onboard with that statement. You do you boo
@@UrFriendlyHoax like some trans ftm say that you HAVE to transition medically or your not a true guy
“You mean like Ratatouille?”
“No, Ratatoing”
RATATOING 🔥🔥
yeah, i've also been really confused/concerned about specific neopronouns as well, but i've always seen people who speak up about it recieve visceral amounts of hate, like people calling them transphobic for no valid reason, glad you're speaking up about this.
Exactly. Like I’m all for pronouns that are referring to someone by their right gender and not misgendering people but I won’t say these noun neopronouns because they just straight up aren’t genders. They’re nicknames that people want to be called. They have nothing to do with gender
@@alwayssarc well pronouns don't always equal gender, I identify as a demigirl but my pronouns are she/her, he/him *and* they/them, it's just what I feel comfortable with and I feel comfortable with any pronouns so it's really up to the person what they wanna use
@@failure2thrivebaby a demigirl?
@@alwayssarc yep! Being a demigirl is normally described as like not really fully feeling like a girl? Like being a half-girl
For me I don't mind being seen as something else like a boy but I still know I'm a girl, if that makes sense
@@failure2thrivebaby how is that different from being a Tom boy?
Imagine getting angry at someone because they didn't refer to you as rat. thank you for the likes I appreciate it
Usually xeno users would have a preferred pronoun if you don't know how to use that one.
@@trickalexg well that's a nice fact thanks for the information
@@Luvly._.LeeKnow all g
LMFAO
I will gladly call them a rat lol
Ravon, this is so iconic.
As a queer person, I don't want to call anyone rat, bee, ant, bun, spark etc. I honestly couldn't give a shit enough to take the time out of my day to hate on these people but as long as they don't force me, I don't care at all;
Story time!!
One day I was with my best friend, and I've known that she had bun/bun self-neopronouns, but I'd never call her that, one day when I called her a "her" or "they", she got mad at me and started screaming at me in front of the whole school. It was so embarrassing, and it was over stupid pronouns. She had also said she wanted to turn into a bunny, and she was a therian, I just don't get it.
that's concerning... has she seeked out help?? You know cause I think she needs to go to a therapist
@@CindyMartinez1one ikr.. it is concerning, she’s actually doing kind of better in therapy rn.
Oh, holy heck, this is bonkers. Okay Therians are a fictional group of shapeshifter in a gay mm romance novel series. I'm a huge fan of those boos and its a cool concept, very sci fi.
And very, very not real. Also Therians only tun into predators, not bunnies so she's even got the lore wrong. Now this is a comment I never thought I would type out the world is cray.
She’s using the term therian wrong, therians are just people who believe they were an animal in their past life, it does not mean to IDENTIFY as an animal😟
@@St9rz_I dont think therians are real, i dont even believe in past lifes and she was christian so she shouldn't believe in past lives 😭 tyy
Ravon jokes are Legendary 😂😂😂😂😂 I couldn't stop laughing 😂😂😂😂your commentary is out of this world
8:37 this made me laugh way too much😭😭 my family is probably concerned😭
The thumbnail was enough for me to sigh and say to myself "Ravon girlie, why do you put yourself through this?"
Love ur videos though Ravon, you always make me smile. hugs xx
Also, as a fellow Goth, WE DO NOT CLAIM THE DEMON PEOPLE
can confirm
oh yeah fellow goth
@@blaire3694 you're goth too?
omg hello fellow goth
@ᴄᴏᴏᴋɪɪ ,, !! ɴʏᴀɴ!! thank you, thats very sweet of you to say
Ravon, I love that you are one of the few influencers who actually have the decency to come out and address the issue as is.
Okay so...I wanna be his friend fr...we share the same sense of humor and he's absolutely HILARIOUS
Raven is so funny is killing me 😭
***Ravon
@@marielaessuperguayI LOVE YR MEL PFPPPPPPP :D
YASSS UR PFP SLAYS
OMG MEL FAN!!!!
6:48
i don't know why but i think my brain is so broken that this is the peak of comedy for me 💀
Nah your not the only one
Same 😭
me too bro I cackled at this part
I'm a trans guy who doesn't use neo pronouns and like yeah a lot of the newer ones are wack but I mean they aren't necessarily hurting anyone so I don't really care lmao
I agree, especially since the majority of neopronoun users are neurodivergent. As long as they’re not toxic about they’re pronouns and understand not everyone is gonna get it, idc.
@@Made_on_marzzz they are?
Exactly 🫵
I also agree, but if somebody asks me to call them bee, rat, or banana, I'm not even gonna try talking to them.
agreed, ppl can slander neos all they want but at the end of the day its not hurting anyone
I find this topic… hard to form an opinion on. While I support neopronouns, like xe/xem, ze/zer, etc. I don’t agree with… all of it. I think using a basic variation of binary pronouns like “she” and “he” to create pronouns like “xe” and “ze” is completely normal. I understand that notion of not agreeing with binary gender, even finding the title “non-binary” and pronouns “they/them” to be too… restricting. Like a label you have to fit into. That’s why I agree with the neopronouns movement.
Where I find issue with certain neopronouns is when people use them as accessories, clearly not genuinely connected to them and feeling uncomfortable using other pronouns. I think some of these people glorify the LGBTQ+ community and try to be as flamboyant, colourful, and different as possible. While I endorse and AM flamboyant, colourful, and different, it’s sometimes taken to extremes, as people in the community seem to be “battling it out” to see who can have the most random neopronouns. It’s kind of like a… weird competition. And it only seems to exist (to this extreme) among 12 year olds and young teenagers.
I also just generally don’t have a clear understanding of identifying as an animal or thing. Gender is binary, it’s a term humans made up to describe the difference between intersex, AMAB and AFAB people. Humans are all just… humans. Gender is something we can mold, but we’re all still humans in the end. Whereas, SPECIES, is not something you can… change. Being a furry, people might call you “cringe” but why? You’re just having fun, dressing up as an animal and such. It’s like cosplay. The ethics of “cringe culture” are complicated and confusing, but at the end of the day, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a furry. I only take issue with therians and people who claim to identify that they’re animals, or sometimes *inanimate objects.* which is… um. Wild. It doesn’t really make sense.
My other issue with this extreme shift in the way people are identifying is that it’s making a mockery of the trans community. People who use these (sometimes absurd) neopronouns are kind of mocking other trans people. While me, and other grown trans people, (and even trans teens!) have had to fight to be who they are, whether that was years ago when it was still illegal, or whether it was battling it out with your parents and getting bullied at school for BEING trans - these people who claim to identify as a plethora of random things haven’t fought a day in their life, just young preteens who claim these things on the internet but likely don’t express them to their parents or family. And those that do, well… they usually aren’t accepted with a warm welcome. And while that’s *not good,* I don’t think that people *should* continue to cater to the insane things these young people are claiming to be.
Identifying so differently also gives conservatives/republicans more reasons to disrespect and ridicule the trans community. It also creates a divide in the LGBTQ community. I hear people say “I’m gay, but I’m not THAT kind of gay” in order to make themselves seem cooler, trying to disrespect the trans community, labelling them all as “cringe”. They want to be divided from us. Sometimes it’s not necessarily out of truth, but because they don’t want to be bullied by *other gay people* for supporting neopronouns and such.
It’s so complicated. Personally, if some teen tells me that they’re ‘catgender’ or a therian, I’m not going to tell them that they’re inherently wrong for identifying that way. I’ll let them figure it out. Let the odd phase they’re going through pass. Homosexuality and transness is not a phase. Not usually. But this an exception. It is almost… a trend. It’s weird, and a little unnerving. I think these kids just need time to figure out who they really are, and stop trying to be cool and different for tiktok.
But I’ll say it again: I fully support people who use neopronouns, so long as it doesn’t have to do with being an animal or inanimate object. Those, I find a bit silly, but won’t completely disregard. I don’t want to hurt anybody, y’know? I’ll let people be who they are - if they change, they change. If they stay the same, keep identifying that way as an adult, maybe it really is true. I’m sure I’ll have a solid opinion when I’m *older* but right now, I don’t really know how to feel. But this is kind of… an essay… to explain it. Sorry this was so long lol
"u can identify as anything u want just dont expect everyone to please ur delusion. u cant change the english language and expect everyone to follow along with it" the most true sentence i have ever heard
Ravon is literally so funny, they never fail to entertain me 🤭🤭
so iconic too
They?? Who are they ? Does ravon have many genders?
In Ravon we trust
@@sahrulyudiawan2865 pronouns
@@sahrulyudiawan2865 I didn’t want to assume Ravon’s pronouns so I went with they
@@cassandrariv it's ok but Ravon identifies as a mole rat
We went from
" Oh yea i like girls"
To:
"Oh yeah i identify as a bee a wasp a beehive a fairy a mermaid"
Edit: I don't wanna be that person but thank you for the likes I've never had this much ever :D
lol
All in a couple of years....
@@rikimura_rishi well, no
@@Medicinarioum i just found out that ppl have been doing this since the 1400's so lemme rephrase this. peope have been embracing/being more open abt this all in a couple of years (like, 2020)
they really out here identifying as 2018 gacha life ocs
omg this is my introduction to your channel and dang i love you already 😭😭
That's honestly ashaming. Times became so easy for young people they needed to create more issues for themselves. As a trans person, thanks for talking about this Ravon. People need somebody who has enough balls to talk about those gaslighting wannabees (lol).
neopronouns are for the trans autistic community. please understand that we autsitic people have a hard time finalizing our identity and we often cope with using neopronouns. it's juswt an easier way to express ourselves! :3
@@fartforblue what
@@Streetsifer are you dumb? they said what they said, neopronouns are for some trans and autistic ppl 💀
@@pissenvania ok
@@fartforblue what she said^^^ they dont IDENTIFY as the object but they like the feeling the object gives them and they prefer to identify as the feeling
As someone who’s bi, it really embarrasses me to know that people like this exist in the community.
I simply like men and women, not any of this other crap
Ofc im not gonna belittle you if you use they/them or you’re trans or something
But you can’t expect me to use neopronouns, I’m sorry
As a bisexual cis girl I completely get where you're coming from I've been called transphobic for not calling someone fairy/fairyself. I completely respect trans people but fairy/fairyself aren't valid pronouns.
I agree. I'm bi myself
yep same🙏🏻
The LGB is something and the TQ+ is something else entirely that is EXTREMELY biphobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and pedophilic. And as a fellow bisexual person, I can’t emphasize enough how gender cult is NOT our community, nor do they represent us at all.
I’m bi too! I also use any pronouns and someone with neo pronouns called me elf. I asked why and they said: “Elf is a neopronoun you uncultured idiot.”
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I called them “she” and they started crying.
THANK YOU for covering this! I’ve wanted to see your reaction for ages now lol
As a person who's lesbian and cupio, i support neopronouns as long as they aren't problematic or bad, when i was 12 year old i used star/paw/pawself prounons but i don't uses them anymore when i found my true prounons I'm comfortable with.