+Renato Santos no way. ivanisovic, korlovic, roddick, isner to name a few have more lethal serves... maybe sampras and his second serve. i think fed has among the best...but most people who know tennis would say it is NOT THE best...
you said his serve is underrated, which it is not. All of the servers you mentioned might have faster serves but not more effective. Everyone knows fed has one the BEST serves, even though it is not the biggest.
Over the years, I come back from time to time and watch this video. Afterward, I'll smoke a cigarette, drink some alcohol & take a shower. I'm not even a smoker or drinker! Insurance should cover Federer addiction. Just say'n.
That has got to be the smoothest most efficient serve motion ever. With that motion, even a person with very little physical strength could nail the serve with power and precision
So smooth (muscle memory) from years of hitting. I know that since I've been practicing my service form at home, when I go to the court I have the muscle memory.
He's just warming up here and he has a gear or two above this. Yes, effortless and he is one of the best servers in history with a great combination of placement, speed and spins. He had a tremendous 2nd serve with tons of movement.
I had to come back to the best to get my motion back. If you practice this motion with a non of balls and just trust the looseness you can improve your serving exponentially very quickly. What I really hate at the club level is the lack of desire to get better. As a former competitive player I put no stake in matches that have no stake. I want to hit a good fluid strong serve but most just want to get it in with maybe a little interest. This just goes to show that the power comes from the fluidity. He’s not serving bombs. He’s just in a very comfortable strong serving pocket.
In terms of speed don't need to answer, speed is important obviously but not the only thing... Sampras serve OVERALL, including both first and second serves, is still likely the best serve ever, in terms of pace, weight, consistency and tremendous capacity to hold under pressure, to ace on second serve, ace on breakpoint etc... Federer though is the most efficient in terms of effortlessness. His serve is ALMOST as devastating as Sampras, but he doesn't put so much effort into it. Sampras serve was very demanding in terms of athleticism. Federer is more relaxed than Sampras, and anyone else - It's incredibly smooth. The EFFICIENCY between effort/result is the best I've ever seen.
@@paoloantunes1283 You may want to go check the ATP stats related to serves. Federer has better stats than Sampras in almost every category. Federer copied Sampras then perfected it.
ok, last comment, I promise. … It is somewhat exciting/comforting to consider how it is not outside the realm of possibilities that Federer gets even *better* at his serve. (He has steadily improved over his career: to quote John McEnroe "he wasn't this great of a server ten years ago; he was good, but now he's truly *great* " - so why can't he get even better still? I believe there are one or two major improvements - "wrinkles" - he could add to his service package which would make him - say, 10% more difficult to deal with. The thing is - after next year, if he is going to keep playing (which I believe he wants to do for as long as he is getting to quarters and semis of Majors) then he is going to have to shorten the points. No question about it; it would be a need. The first and best way to do that is with the serve; and Federer is the prime candidate for adjusting his game in that way - even *when* his serve is already great. … so, that is the broad outline of it, and I am a bit biased, but it makes sense to me. Just *how* he is going to add ffacets to his service game is beyond me. Perhaps he can hit the wide serve in the ad-court with a different kind of spin to make it slice away. He probably already has that serve, but I don't believe he has mastered it. As far as the deuce-court, my first thought is that he takes some pace off and transfers all that pace into spin, to drop his wide serve super short up the line - like, at the halfway point - and if he can do that while hiding his intention by the service motion (which is one of his strengths) it would make him a good 5-10% more difficult to break. Or even 15-20%, if he can hit70% first serves.
Deff not. The first serves he does down the middle on the deuce side are not. Many serves on the adv side starting around 2:25 could be kick serves but don't think there's enough there to be a kick as he's flatening the serve.
Torbin Ulrich used to practice in a gym and turn the lights out to groove the toss and swing timing. As a teaching pro I would demo with my eyes closed and hit 4 to 5 out of 10 in.
Just curious...what's the point of the returner? As someone is just feeding Federer balls...Im assuming its either some top player that they are letting him return Federer's serve as a courtesy or its just to have someone there to have the situation look as it would in a match?
@@lifeoftennis1285 Either way, looks about 30% of his power and spin and a good player like that shanks and even gets aced a few times. Can you imagine 100% power and spin?
Chris Wylie, they play 70-80% level after once they are warmed up. This video is the first few minutes of their training session, which is why they are just casually warming up.
it is simple and looks very easy it is efficient and sounds good However I still like the Australian serves of Neale Frazer Rod Laver John Alexander Tony Roche John Newcombe Lewis Hoad the disguise of Roy Emerson and Americans Andy Pete John Isner Roscoe What about Pancho Gonzales or Colin Dibley What about Bryan Bro and Luke Jensen Ambidextrous serve
He is just warming up and finding the rythm. It was easier for him to do this kind of routine before real serves. Just concentrating to toss, flow and being relaxed.
What type of grip does he use for his service? I'm trying to figure it out and copy it. Like my friends, i can copy how they serve with an equal speed and spin
A little away from the body on the dominant hand starting at the Continental position. This causes the racquet head to be a little more open at contact, thus producing more top spin. It's usually done on the 2nd serve to get more top spin so you have more top spin to get the ball in the service box.
Stop talking nonsense, it's definitely Continental as most players do. He also spreads his fingers apart. It's very apparent when it's more like an eastern backhand, just look at Berrettini or Raonic.
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It looks so natural. all the movements are fluid and also it seems like it was supposed to be like that
one of the sweetest and i think underrated serves in the game...
+alexandergoldman Except he is considered by many to have one of the best serves ever.
+Renato Santos no way. ivanisovic, korlovic, roddick, isner to name a few have more lethal serves... maybe sampras and his second serve. i think fed has among the best...but most people who know tennis would say it is NOT THE best...
I didn't say he was the best. "one of the..."
+Renato Santos fine. but when i first said "one of the sweetest serves in the game" it means "one of the best" so what is your point?
you said his serve is underrated, which it is not. All of the servers you mentioned might have faster serves but not more effective. Everyone knows fed has one the BEST serves, even though it is not the biggest.
Over the years, I come back from time to time and watch this video. Afterward, I'll smoke a cigarette, drink some alcohol & take a shower. I'm not even a smoker or drinker! Insurance should cover Federer addiction. Just say'n.
It's like watching a supercharged sportscar warming up and gradually increasing speed and power. Fluid, graceful execution of sheer mastery.
0:00 oh yeah! Listen to that bite! It's like crunching into a damn apple!
and that one kicked like crazy too
@@slimpickinses the funniest part is that he's just warming up that's not even his real serve
That has got to be the smoothest most efficient serve motion ever. With that motion, even a person with very little physical strength could nail the serve with power and precision
Problem is not many people can serve with that motion :)
So smooth (muscle memory) from years of hitting. I know that since I've been practicing my service form at home, when I go to the court I have the muscle memory.
It looks so simple and fluid. I don't understand why we all can't do it!
+Yucel Guldali >Because he's the best of all time!!
You can just practice 6 hours a day for 15 years.
Yucel Guldali YES WE CAN o(｀^´*)
Because of a thing called... Timing !
@@ashleywalls4097 most ago guys do yet few serve like that
He's just warming up here and he has a gear or two above this. Yes, effortless and he is one of the best servers in history with a great combination of placement, speed and spins. He had a tremendous 2nd serve with tons of movement.
I had to come back to the best to get my motion back. If you practice this motion with a non of balls and just trust the looseness you can improve your serving exponentially very quickly.
What I really hate at the club level is the lack of desire to get better. As a former competitive player I put no stake in matches that have no stake. I want to hit a good fluid strong serve but most just want to get it in with maybe a little interest.
This just goes to show that the power comes from the fluidity. He’s not serving bombs. He’s just in a very comfortable strong serving pocket.
It's not the fastest (Rodick/Isner) or the best (Sampras) serve, but it's the most efficient ever... thing of beauty to watch.
How is it that Sampras's serve is the best without being the fastest or the most efficient ? LoL
In terms of speed don't need to answer, speed is important obviously but not the only thing...
Sampras serve OVERALL, including both first and second serves, is still likely the best serve ever, in terms of pace, weight, consistency and tremendous capacity to hold under pressure, to ace on second serve, ace on breakpoint etc...
Federer though is the most efficient in terms of effortlessness. His serve is ALMOST as devastating as Sampras, but he doesn't put so much effort into it. Sampras serve was very demanding in terms of athleticism. Federer is more relaxed than Sampras, and anyone else - It's incredibly smooth. The EFFICIENCY between effort/result is the best I've ever seen.
@@paoloantunes1283 You may want to go check the ATP stats related to serves. Federer has better stats than Sampras in almost every category. Federer copied Sampras then perfected it.
That touch at 2:05, beautiful!
That was awesome; thanks!
One bounce to hit the back fence!
Ramy G ,.. and he’s only warming up !
O_o
Beautiful
i dont know how he perfectly places the ball exactly where he wants dang
1:49 dude, if that went in? … * _ * that serve is NASTY
SO chill :D
Fed was in God mode that week. No one could touch him.
ok, last comment, I promise. …
It is somewhat exciting/comforting to consider how it is not outside the realm of possibilities that Federer gets even *better* at his serve. (He has steadily improved over his career: to quote John McEnroe "he wasn't this great of a server ten years ago; he was good, but now he's truly *great* " - so why can't he get even better still? I believe there are one or two major improvements - "wrinkles" - he could add to his service package which would make him - say, 10% more difficult to deal with. The thing is - after next year, if he is going to keep playing (which I believe he wants to do for as long as he is getting to quarters and semis of Majors) then he is going to have to shorten the points. No question about it; it would be a need. The first and best way to do that is with the serve; and Federer is the prime candidate for adjusting his game in that way - even *when* his serve is already great.
… so, that is the broad outline of it, and I am a bit biased, but it makes sense to me. Just *how* he is going to add ffacets to his service game is beyond me. Perhaps he can hit the wide serve in the ad-court with a different kind of spin to make it slice away. He probably already has that serve, but I don't believe he has mastered it. As far as the deuce-court, my first thought is that he takes some pace off and transfers all that pace into spin, to drop his wide serve super short up the line - like, at the halfway point - and if he can do that while hiding his intention by the service motion (which is one of his strengths) it would make him a good 5-10% more difficult to break. Or even 15-20%, if he can hit70% first serves.
Are theses all considered kick serves?
Deff not. The first serves he does down the middle on the deuce side are not. Many serves on the adv side starting around 2:25 could be kick serves but don't think there's enough there to be a kick as he's flatening the serve.
Hmmm more like a slice serve.
But nothing is definite, Rog always puts a bit of slice on his flat serves
Wow looks just like mine minus the placement, power,consistency,effectiveness,spin other than that seems the same 😆
How did you get hold of this footage mate? Or did you record it yourself?
Lol "it looks fluid" and the "so simple look" is because he practices everyday and his technique is all memorized by his mucles.
+Danny Thomas I think he could serve equally well with his eyes closed
Torbin Ulrich used to practice in a gym and turn the lights out to groove the toss and swing timing. As a teaching pro I would demo with my eyes closed and hit 4 to 5 out of 10 in.
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Bro I have never seen a comment more accurate than this. People don’t understand the thousands of hours put into this to make it this good
No it’s because he trains and focuses on his form
What device model (e.g. camcorder model) did you use?
CoDINmyHEART bitch
Was there a single ball that the guy in yellow did not shank? Must be frustrating to hit ground strokes with that guy.
@ stop the cap
Just curious...what's the point of the returner? As someone is just feeding Federer balls...Im assuming its either some top player that they are letting him return Federer's serve as a courtesy or its just to have someone there to have the situation look as it would in a match?
Chris Wylie...or maybe they hit against each other before or after this serves practice?
@@lifeoftennis1285 Either way, looks about 30% of his power and spin and a good player like that shanks and even gets aced a few times. Can you imagine 100% power and spin?
Chris Wylie, they play 70-80% level after once they are warmed up. This video is the first few minutes of their training session, which is why they are just casually warming up.
it is simple and looks very easy it is efficient and sounds good However I still like the Australian serves of Neale Frazer Rod Laver John Alexander Tony Roche John Newcombe Lewis Hoad the disguise of Roy Emerson and Americans Andy Pete John Isner Roscoe What about Pancho Gonzales or Colin Dibley What about Bryan Bro and Luke Jensen Ambidextrous serve
Don't think people realize how difficult it is to just get that ball toss right every time like Fed does. Looks deceptively simple
0:30
Why does he step forward with his right foot for most of the serves? Even goes over the baseline.
He is just warming up and finding the rythm. It was easier for him to do this kind of routine before real serves. Just concentrating to toss, flow and being relaxed.
How is easy for RF 👍👍👍
3:04 silkyyyyyy
3:31
He hardly puts any effort into the serve as it is fluid...its like a natural movement for him...
What type of grip does he use for his service? I'm trying to figure it out and copy it. Like my friends, i can copy how they serve with an equal speed and spin
It's not continental. It's a backhand eastern grip like most professionals use on serve.
most pros definitely do not use a eastern backhand grip on the serve..
kabob21?????????????? eastern backhand?
A little away from the body on the dominant hand starting at the Continental position. This causes the racquet head to be a little more open at contact, thus producing more top spin. It's usually done on the 2nd serve to get more top spin so you have more top spin to get the ball in the service box.
Stop talking nonsense, it's definitely Continental as most players do. He also spreads his fingers apart.
It's very apparent when it's more like an eastern backhand, just look at Berrettini or Raonic.
Just you
Saw a foot fault....c’mon Rog!!
i love him...
the guy in white not so much
Foot fault 😜
dousitesonnanirakutinnihayaitamauterunya！
foot fault galore!
+Stgtaco Aleck hehe i know just kidding!!
He's just so damn fluid and relaxed! I'm so envious of his form!!