D&D ogres sound a lot like the kids at my workplace. Can't count past ten and smashing and screaming at anything you don't understand is a lot like the typical five year old.
Adventure hook: PC's while traveling come upon a village that has nobody around. Upon getting closer they see every door and window boarded up. When they first enter the town, one the windows opens and a portly bald human male opens one of the window shutters on the 2nd story inn window. He calls to the PC's, and after introducing himself, tells the PC's that the villagers are all hiding, because an ogre has taken up residence in their community barn, sleeping in it and eating all their livestock. Most of the livestock have been consumed, and the man says that they fear they will be next on the menu....
So glad for this episode especially with LotR Fellowship of the Ring line: “They have a Cave Troll..” scene where I always go “well actually that’s a DnD Ogre...” Is this why you combined their lore? Because physically/visually they’re so different! Except for stature and other aspects to u pointed out I hadn’t thought about!
Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but there is a book trilogy that takes place after the Minotaur Wars trilogy that focuses primarily on ogres in the Dragonlance settings
I was hoping there would be more about the Oni. I didn't know they were so different than normal Ogres. I thought they were like an evolution of an Ogre that was more attuned to magic or something. I always like the idea of an Oni leading a band of Ogres.
In some versions they're described as being a whole different species. They're based on Japanese folklore whereas typically ogres are more from European mythology
So in theory someone could make dnd version of Doomsday, just expose a troll to vary ailments and have it evolve past it (though iirc the tarrasque is also kinda like that)
I played in a setting that featured ogres and trolls very prevalently as it took place in a world where there wasn't a whole lot of civilization,there used to be and the civilization that did exist was very advanced,it was similar in terms of technology to the united states in the 1940s,but it was all destroyed by the awakening of a tarasque and the ensuing conflict that it took to destroy it,which resulted in most of the civilized world being wiped out,I think the dm of this campaign had a very interesting take on giantkin and pseudo giants,most giantkin in this world don't follow the ordning,partly because most true giants have died out except for stone and hill giants,but also because the giantkin have been abandoned by Anam anyway,so they feel there's no need to follow the ordning of Anam isn't on their side. The way he distinguished between ogres and trolls was very interesting,it was like they were two sides of the same coin,you have the ogres which had the intelligence of an average human but they lacked any sense of empathy or morality and were normally solitary creatures unless they had children or a partner,they pretty much all had some form of albinism and enjoyed eating bear meat the most,then there were the trolls which were only as intelligent as a bonobo but had a strong sense of empathy,they also had a moral code and traveled in packs,their skin was normally a yellowish brown and they enjoyed eating wolf meat the most,trolls turn to stone in the sunlight,ogres really enjoy the sun,I actually really enjoy this take on ogres and trolls,it makes them unique from each other but still connected in alot of ways...
27:38 the dire troll reminds me of hollows from bleach and how the more powerful arrancar are made. the larger hollows that are actually hundreds of hollows combined start eating each other and eventually become far more powerful to the point one "soul" takes over and becomes their consciousness of that group, creating a intelligent and more human like creature that can gain magic swords similar to the zanpakto of the series heroes the soul reapers I'm now picturing the extreme end of a dire troll that has become so powerful it becomes much more intelligent an refined, getting control of its regenerative ability to an extent. becoming a BBEG mastermind that has lesser dire trolls under its command
Our trolls are kinda like Tolkien trolls and ogres kinda like the olog-hai from the shadow of war game. We even made friends with an Ogre some Orcs had enslaved, his name is Pudge and he had asthma before we saved a little pixie that can heal us
The drop ogres of Cardola forest ambush attack by leaping out of trees and buttheading victims. Breaking the victims neck by falling assfirst atop the targets head.
about ~ 11-1/2 min ... yeah. I'd say ogres are a weird in between. they're sortof something more than an animal and less than a person. they're right on that edge. depending on how you write your world of course.
So wait I didn’t know trolls can become infused with elements. So if a Troll becomes a Fire Troll and Fire is its weakness the do you kill it? With water?
The fire troll idea is likely not possible due to the concept being based on the regeneration and fire cancelling out their regen ability. I just kinda started naming elements there. But this is D&D so fuck it. Yes water would definitely be what i would homebrew as their weakness.
@@Thedungeoncast Fire Troll is a thing, and Fire and Acid actually help it. Water and Ice are its only weaknesses. Have fun running into one, because they are also smart.
( Leave your comment in English ) Actually Goblins, Ogres, Monsters , Dragons, Aliens ET , Bigfoot ,Demons , UFO , Devils , Fairies , Ghosts, Mermaids etc are all Fallen Angels . But the human spirit exclusively belongs to the human - alive or dead tbh What do ye say guys ?
I couldn't find anything specifically referring to Oni and The Ordning, but I see it playing out in one of 2 ways. 1) They are technically ogres and thus have a place at the very bottom of the ordning alongside their cousins. Or 2) They are likely considered so very Maug as to be not part of the ordning at all and they themselves would very likely reject the ordning out of hand (kinda like Firbolgs).
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The Discworld trolls seem to be a lot closer to the D&D Ogres as well, apart from being a silicone-based life form. ruclips.net/video/FJIaTBB72CM/видео.html
Glad quality dnd content is becoming more prolific on youtube.
Uh, you guys forgot to talk about the most dangerous troll of all...
The Internet Troll.
Did Someone Call?
#TheDungeonCastMoreLikeTheDUMBgeonAss
*Retreats back under my bridge*
What's the CR? :)
😂🤣😭
Two years ago..... you missed a perfect opportunity to Trolololol people. ruclips.net/video/2Z4m4lnjxkY/видео.html&ab_channel=DavidSkipEverling
@@MisterTutor2010 challenge rating. Basically a way to guage the threat level they pose to PC's
D&D ogres sound a lot like the kids at my workplace. Can't count past ten and smashing and screaming at anything you don't understand is a lot like the typical five year old.
That's what happens when you hire child Labour
I now understand why Thor calls The Hulk a troll when he meets him.
My man acting like the nursery rhyme is the epitome of Trolls hahaha
Would love a dive into Dragonlance!
31:00 maybe the intellect devourer and if you fail the riddle they try to eat your brain?
Silver Triforce But doesn’t that mean that you’re a bad meal
Adventure hook: PC's while traveling come upon a village that has nobody around. Upon getting closer they see every door and window boarded up. When they first enter the town, one the windows opens and a portly bald human male opens one of the window shutters on the 2nd story inn window. He calls to the PC's, and after introducing himself, tells the PC's that the villagers are all hiding, because an ogre has taken up residence in their community barn, sleeping in it and eating all their livestock. Most of the livestock have been consumed, and the man says that they fear they will be next on the menu....
So glad for this episode especially with LotR Fellowship of the Ring line: “They have a Cave Troll..” scene where I always go “well actually that’s a DnD Ogre...” Is this why you combined their lore? Because physically/visually they’re so different! Except for stature and other aspects to u pointed out I hadn’t thought about!
Don't know if anyone else mentioned it, but there is a book trilogy that takes place after the Minotaur Wars trilogy that focuses primarily on ogres in the Dragonlance settings
Krinn Ogres started out as creatures called Irda. There is a whole book about how they fell.
Just point and say "SQUIRREL" and the ogre will be distracted.
I love trolls they are tough as nails and can even become a challenge for LVL 10++. Great vid!
I love this podcast.
And i love you random citizen!
For reals though thank you!
@@Thedungeoncast And I love the Megamind reference. 😁
I was hoping there would be more about the Oni. I didn't know they were so different than normal Ogres. I thought they were like an evolution of an Ogre that was more attuned to magic or something. I always like the idea of an Oni leading a band of Ogres.
In some versions they're described as being a whole different species. They're based on Japanese folklore whereas typically ogres are more from European mythology
Constant Hunger and Regenerationnmakes makes sense together, the body of a troll is just in an extreme overdrive
Great episode guys!
ogres are my favorite fantasy creature
Mine to they are underrated monster most people confuse them with trolls and giants
28:03 Now hear me out...
*Spider* Troll and *Centipede* Troll !!!
Have fun sleeping tonight.
"Have any questions about Ogre Magi?" "Nah. I'll look it up on wikipedia later..." O...kay.... Guess I'll have to do that, too. 😒
Right. Would have been way more interesting than the side chatter
Ayy new video loving the content guys glad I subscribed
Oh yea thanks for reminding me about tomb of foes, you guys have to do an episode on the gith, their so cool. Keep up the great content guys 😁
Ogres are myths in Tolkien's works. They are totally separate species. I believe it was mentioned with giants, and only saw it once.
Tokien used the word Ogre for things in his earlier drafts, but the ogres kinda got scrapped.
Slew One I think ogres are like what happens when a human breeds was a troll
So in theory someone could make dnd version of Doomsday, just expose a troll to vary ailments and have it evolve past it (though iirc the tarrasque is also kinda like that)
LOTR echoes several Nordic fairy tales in regards to trolls. They turn to stone in the daylight.
I played in a setting that featured ogres and trolls very prevalently as it took place in a world where there wasn't a whole lot of civilization,there used to be and the civilization that did exist was very advanced,it was similar in terms of technology to the united states in the 1940s,but it was all destroyed by the awakening of a tarasque and the ensuing conflict that it took to destroy it,which resulted in most of the civilized world being wiped out,I think the dm of this campaign had a very interesting take on giantkin and pseudo giants,most giantkin in this world don't follow the ordning,partly because most true giants have died out except for stone and hill giants,but also because the giantkin have been abandoned by Anam anyway,so they feel there's no need to follow the ordning of Anam isn't on their side.
The way he distinguished between ogres and trolls was very interesting,it was like they were two sides of the same coin,you have the ogres which had the intelligence of an average human but they lacked any sense of empathy or morality and were normally solitary creatures unless they had children or a partner,they pretty much all had some form of albinism and enjoyed eating bear meat the most,then there were the trolls which were only as intelligent as a bonobo but had a strong sense of empathy,they also had a moral code and traveled in packs,their skin was normally a yellowish brown and they enjoyed eating wolf meat the most,trolls turn to stone in the sunlight,ogres really enjoy the sun,I actually really enjoy this take on ogres and trolls,it makes them unique from each other but still connected in alot of ways...
Please do the Yugoloths, there is a striking lack of content on these friends on RUclips.
I will be fitting these guys in this summer.
The Dungeoncast I love your show. The back and forth between you two really helps unpack these concepts.
Very nice video
just imagine 3 ogre squating on the road and you riding up with your cart
Great episode. Btw you guys should do the oblex next.
27:38 the dire troll reminds me of hollows from bleach and how the more powerful arrancar are made. the larger hollows that are actually hundreds of hollows combined start eating each other and eventually become far more powerful to the point one "soul" takes over and becomes their consciousness of that group, creating a intelligent and more human like creature that can gain magic swords similar to the zanpakto of the series heroes the soul reapers
I'm now picturing the extreme end of a dire troll that has become so powerful it becomes much more intelligent an refined, getting control of its regenerative ability to an extent. becoming a BBEG mastermind that has lesser dire trolls under its command
Damn he predicted the Dragons of Autumn Twilight movie 10 years after it
Create a villain who has Dr Jekyl Mr Hyde situation but it’s troll blood he is using to mutate.
Omfg, this is absolutely genius, your idea is incredible!!!
@@void6292 I can’t even remember writing this 😂
The trolls in DnD and Tolkien are based off Norse mythology
Very loosely. Most dnd trolls are fine with sunlight for instance
@@KS-PNW Right. But DnD Trolls actually look very like the long nosed Norse Trolls...much more so than Tolkien even
Our trolls are kinda like Tolkien trolls and ogres kinda like the olog-hai from the shadow of war game. We even made friends with an Ogre some Orcs had enslaved, his name is Pudge and he had asthma before we saved a little pixie that can heal us
The drop ogres of Cardola forest ambush attack by leaping out of trees and buttheading victims. Breaking the victims neck by falling assfirst atop the targets head.
about ~ 11-1/2 min ... yeah. I'd say ogres are a weird in between. they're sortof something more than an animal and less than a person. they're right on that edge. depending on how you write your world of course.
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So wait I didn’t know trolls can become infused with elements. So if a Troll becomes a Fire Troll and Fire is its weakness the do you kill it? With water?
The fire troll idea is likely not possible due to the concept being based on the regeneration and fire cancelling out their regen ability. I just kinda started naming elements there.
But this is D&D so fuck it. Yes water would definitely be what i would homebrew as their weakness.
@@Thedungeoncast Fire Troll is a thing, and Fire and Acid actually help it. Water and Ice are its only weaknesses. Have fun running into one, because they are also smart.
I am the one that made the ice troll and the magma ogre
oni means ogre,demon,devil and troll,pretty much they are either these definitions
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Actually Goblins, Ogres, Monsters , Dragons, Aliens ET , Bigfoot ,Demons , UFO , Devils , Fairies , Ghosts, Mermaids etc are all Fallen Angels . But the human spirit exclusively belongs to the human - alive or dead tbh
What do ye say guys ?
Are Oni the part of the Ordening ?
I couldn't find anything specifically referring to Oni and The Ordning, but I see it playing out in one of 2 ways. 1) They are technically ogres and thus have a place at the very bottom of the ordning alongside their cousins. Or 2) They are likely considered so very Maug as to be not part of the ordning at all and they themselves would very likely reject the ordning out of hand (kinda like Firbolgs).
Do you guys have a discord server?
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Rock me asmodeus!
Oni is ogre in English😂👌
I wouldn’t say ogres are that dumb they’re half as smart as the average human, I think most animals are 2 intelligence
So ogres are basically giant tired 3 year olds
Bridge troll ate hags?
makes a video about trolls and ogres...doesnt come prepared with the stats of said trolls and ogres and resorts to guessing :P
I did guess correctly at the very least lol
The Discworld trolls seem to be a lot closer to the D&D Ogres as well, apart from being a silicone-based life form. ruclips.net/video/FJIaTBB72CM/видео.html
gama ray are magic immortal hulk
Were is the new video.?
The Irda (Dragonlance ogres) are still smart but most ogres on Krynn are just as dumb as in FR
Oni makes a perfect Bridge Troll
Oni should mean horned demon in japanese
Wow, Brian. Your grandpa was really racist towards Trolls, dude.
My god all the side chatter is annoying. Good info but so much unnecessary chatter.
D