TENNIS STRING PATTERNS 16X19 VS 18X20 - WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
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I am from Switzerland and I do string rackets for club members between 3.5 and 4.5 level, dominating String pattern is 16x19 (would say around 80%), some blades 18x20, Pro Staff 97(L)S 18x16, but otherwise it's open patterns.
Most amateur competition here is played on clay courts, we have almost no outdoor hard court surfaces, so most of the club level competition is happening in the summer on clay courts.
I would disagree with the manufacturers answer, that clay courts require less spin. I think the open pattern supports the game on clay especially, even if we are not hitting RPM-Numbers like Rafa, on clay playing high topspin balls is highly effective as the spin has a lot of effect on this surface.
Yes you are totally right 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Agree! Clay Court is for spin!!!
Balls on clay courts jump so high!!! I'm only used to hard courts.
Yeah, I agree.
Clay you want MORE spin. I used to use the Michael Chang Graphite with Luxilon original for the clay season
For me, it depends on the headsize. 100 sq inches: 18x20. Under that headsize, it has to be 16x19. My current racquet of choice is the Head 360+ Speed Pro (18x20), which is open enough for me to hit with decent topspin because of its 100 sq inches, but dense enough to minimize any unwanted launching of the ball.
I love that racquet. It's brilliant having 100" head but 18x20. The stability of larger head, sweet spot, control... It's a really good place to be. Super underrated. Babolat 16x19 100"? Nahhhh, please, no thank you.
Another good video thank you.I am from France and I use 18x20 pro kennex kinetic 18x20, more strings mean more weight and more stability and directional control, 18x20 also allows low tensions stringing which generates spin with accuracy, more strings means also a cleaner muted feel and less buzz and less harmful high-frequency vibrations, with a 100sq inch head size on a thin beam the ideal for me is a multi 17g in low - mid tension, that would bring lots of life and consistency on any surface.
Hi!
Romania, Europe here. Everybody I know uses 16x19, especially me with Babolat racquets. Because the courts are all clay, that works. Clay grips the ball more, making it jump more (if you have top spin on it) but also slowing it down. So spin is an effective way to deter your opponent, as power won't cut it as much. To be honest, I always thought the 18x20 was made for the American market, as you have a lot of hard courts, and figured a flat, powerful and low ball would be more effective.
So by now I think the 18x20's are used by players who have solid mechanics, move well and can generate their own power and spin in an explosive way. It always feels good to hit a winner in a sharp angle :)
yeah clay courts you want MORE spin, so it doesn't make sense to go more dense. if you look at someone who uses one of the most dense pattern, del potro, he hits very flat and has success on hard coutt
sounds like cricket 😂
Exactly correct. For example, Rafa Nadal. He hits with a boatload of top-spin and what is his best surface? Clay. Honestly, the guy who made the video here sounds anti 18x20, like he has something against it lol
16 X 20 Hammer crew checking in
Wilson ultra tour 18x20 Canada
Yonex Vcore 95 crew
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Try out 14 by 18. Give that a spin.
I demo'd the Pure Strike 16x19 and 18x20 five years ago. While the 16x19 had access to "crazy spin", the ball off the 18x20 went exactly where I wanted it to go. And when I have my good mechanics, I can make the 18x20 produce plenty of spin and power from this low power frame. I string VS in the mains and Luxilon poly in the crosses.
I'm from the US and recently got back into tennis. I was able to demo a bunch of new racquets and really liked the hit of the 18x20 Head Gravity the most.
You can compensate for the 18x20's relative lack of spin by putting in thinner gauge strings or shaped polys.
Born & raised playing hardcourt tennis in Minnesota, and I’ve always played an 18x20 pattern strung to 60 lbs. I was taught to hit through the ball when I took lessons as a kid, and that’s never changed. USTA 4.5 at my peak playing varsity in high school, probably more like a 4.0 now.
Lowering the string tension on a 18X20 gives good spin.
Wait a minute, you hit flatter on clay?!? Something doesn't add up.
Yes Nadal has the flattest stroke among all pros. That’s why he won 12 French Open ;)
@@suillee1358 Indeed. In general clay specialists use more extreme grips and much more topspin. Everyone knows that, well I guess almost everyone. :-(
xD Something isnt right here. Beside the 18x20 for clay statment. If in US are mostly hard courts they should be using 18x20, but its probably due to amateur players that like the free power from 16x19.
Suil Lee lol
Nadal puts fewer rotations on the ball than an MLB knuckleball.
The pattern you ultimately select should be based on your stroke mechanics, right? If you swipe at the ball (windshield wiper), you need the open pattern to give you more pop (aka trampoline). But if you hit through the ball, both patterns are playable but the closed pattern is preferred due to the added control.
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Im from the U.S. and use the vcore pro 97 hd (18x20). I get tons of spin with it and like my power coming from the mass.
I'm on the HD too, and once I adapted to it I found I was getting more spin than with 16x19.
I’m from Missouri, I’m a aggressive power player, and I grew up always using the 16x19. While it does give me a little more power and spin, I don’t always have the control I want. I recently switched to the Blade 104 with an 18x19 string pattern. I love it, I get a lot of power and spin, plus a lot of control. Also, the new version of Serena’s Blade 104, the v7, has went from the 18x19 to 16x19 string pattern, but Serena and Venus’s Blade 104 v7s still are an 18x19 string pattern. Serena’s new prototype she used this year is still an 18x19 as well.
I play with 16x20 in my yonex vcore 95 so I’m a little off..😂🇸🇪 Love your chanel!👍
From France, and I play with Wilson Six One 95 18x20. Very rare and amazing stick.
that´s my favourite too for last 2 years. Now I am switching to Wilson Clash 100 16x19 (21/21kg ) and the power you gain for free is amazing !
My next choice will be Blade 97 18x20 CV
I've been using 18x20 since I was 14 and I'm from the US
yeah on clay which is more abundant in europe, they have to hit more spin which means like strings. but in the US it’s basically just hard which means sense using a denser pattern racket.
I just ordered a 18x20 Blade V6 great timing for this video haha
I can't find this racket anywhere? From what site did you order this?
Well done. Nice video mate.
I am older and grew up with the Jack Kramer Racket. One handed backhand, continental grip, get up to the net to finish the point. I just changed to the Yonex 18-20 vCore. Live it!
"Less strings more power" ima try 0x0 strings
solid graphite paddle.
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Dude you hit the frame just right and you're gonna get a ton of power.
Located in the US; I play with H19 prostock both 18x20 and 16x19 (identical specs); depending on outdoor vs. indoor vs. weather vs. ball liveliness. My primary is 18x20.
I'm from Australia and I use the new Yonex Vcore Pro HD 18x20 (lead tape at 3 & 9 o'clock and a Yonex Leather Grip). Great Control. This raquet surprisingly generates plenty of spin for a 18x20. I changed from the Orange Yonex Vcore HG 330g 16x20.Biggest difference to me was accuracy. If you want more balls to land in the court and you have a big swing, go with the 18x20...In my opinion
...Thank you for the Great Video's. Keep it Up
I have been stringing for my club, for a couple of month now, and I have only strung one 18x20 racket, with the rest beeing 16x19. I think it is mainly because of the topspin game you need for clay.
I bought both blades, but i decided to play with the Blade 18x20 because I love the plow through and the ball Pocketing feeling, I recently change to Solinco tour bite soft 17 1.20mm and match fantastic with this racket enough spin, great control and power to attack and finish points.
Originally was playing with Wilson 6.1 95 (K)Factor 16x19 and then switched to Yonex VCore Pro 97 16x19. One day I picked up my brother's Wilson 6.1 95 Amplifeel 18x20. I didn't realize the pattern at first and couldn't figure out why I loved the racket so much. The control was amazing. I was putting a wherever I wanted.
I strung them all up the same (54lb Lux ALU Rough - mains / technifibre multifilament in crosses). I was often hitting the Yonex and K Factor long while the amplifeel was staying in the court. I have a long swing with a lot of power and spin, so the 18x20 reels some of that power in and allows me to have incredible accuracy. I noticed I was able to hit more extreme angles as well. Definitely had more pop with on my serve with the Yonex but I'm just LOVING the control. I'm definitely in more longer rallies as I miss less and don't hit through people as easily. Anyway, if you like to take full swings try the 18x20 to get more control.
- Damian, L.A.
I live in NJ and typically play around the Hudson County Area, sometimes I'll go to Manhattan in NY and play as well. I tend to alternate between my Custom Dahcor 16x19 frame and my Babolat Pure Strike 18x20 (it's Red/Black, not exactly sure which gen it is).
I love the amount of Pop and Spin I can generate on my Custom Racket. But because I'm still improving and learning to control my Racket Head Speed when notching it higher than 7/10, they tend to go out more often than not.
My Babolat 18x20 when I switch into it, I can still generate just about the same spin as my Custom Frame. But it does come out a bit slower, yet at a much better angle. It helps me place the ball on slightly sharper areas for the time being. Though I'll likely use it more on my Return Games over my Serve Points, since I'll be using my Custom Frame to get the extra Spin and Power/Speed to crack past the 80 and hopefully 90mph threshold.
So far I'm only a 3.5 due to my serves being a little inconsistent, but gradually improving to break past that point.
South Texas 16x19. I love the feel and to me it's solid like a board. I like the sound it makes. Keeps it low for top spinners.
North Texas 18x20. I play mostly doubles and in doubles while I would like a little more power and feel, I prefer have those flatter (controlled) shots so as to prevent leaving an opening for the opposing net player. But the more open patterns are definitely more fun to play with in singles.
The real answer is: 18x20 'makes' you hit flatter because the string bed doesn't grab as much and there is less dwell time on the string bed. Ask Dominic Thiem. That's what he told me.
You are describing pocketing. If you think about this and ping pong, you get a cushioned paddle that absorb the ball so you can impart spin. Ping pong works the opposite of tennis.
This is why the future of pocketing is about strings...infused poly strings to be exact.
So many inaccurate comments in this video. Not one of your best TS!!
In Sweden almost everyone uses 16x19, only more advanced players who can generate enough spin with a 18x20 uses it for more control
I don't think there is a big difference in spin between 18x20 and 16x19, I think it is the launch angle off the racket, that's been studied also by some PHD physics geniuses with the same conclusion, not a significant spin difference "potential" if you are a high level player, but a different launch angle. My own experiment is with Yonex Vcore Pro HD and the 330, I don't see a difference in spin despite their different string patterns.
I own 2 pro staff 16/19 and 2 blade 18/20 , it’s a matter of control 18/20 and spin 16/19 in the first close up , but depends of many other things at the end
Ive found the 8 vs 6 in throat has a bigger impact than overall string pattern
explain please, i love learning new things about tennis!
@@JCMacDonald it's not quite as simple as 8 vs 6, but more to do with how tight the mains are through the middle, on most racquets 6 is pretty open but some racquets eg: the 2017 vs aero has a narrow throat and 6 strings in throat but the pattern is still tight in the middle. For me the tightness through the middle is what I look at more rather than the overall string pattern
From Europe here. Cool review man. In spite more flattish all-round game I've always use 16x19 string patterns. It is easier for me to play with and have enough feel, control and spin if necessary. I've tried 18x20 but was never my thing. Just never felt comfortable enough to play with denser string patterns and somehow it always lacked that extra pop, so you're definitely right.
Thank you for this clear video
I personally use the strike 18x20, I tried the 16x19 and I have more control with the 18x20, obviously. However, I still don't hit flat forehands and topspin still comes very easy to me due to my natural swing.
I hit with wilson 6.1 95 18x20 and 16x18. I love both. I like the feel of the 18x20 on backhands as I hit a flatter 2-hander, but prefer the 16x18 for FH and serves. I prefer the 16x18 for playing sets, but love hitting rally balls with the 18x20. Also depends a lot on how I feel on a particular day, am I getting enough power or not, etc.
Pure Strike 98 v3, 18x20. Kuala Lumpur checking in.
Choose the string pattern that suits the way you play and gives you confidence. I agree that in the U.S. most players opt for a 16x19 pattern; however, I couldn't begin to estimate a percentage that do. Disagree on spin potential from 18x20 racquets. It will significantly depend on type of grip (eastern, semi-western, etc.) and mechanics of the player. I do agree that it's easier to create spin with a 16x19, but in my case I am able to generate equal amounts of heavy topspin and slice with any string pattern. There are so many variables, string type, tension, player mechanics, and more. I stick with 18x20 for the control and use gut or multi/poly hybrids that enhance spin potential. Currently using Head Gravity Pro 18x20 VS Touch 16/Alu Power 18 57lbs and Head Pro Tour 2.0, same strings as with Gravity Pro but at 55lbs, and X1-Biphase 16/Confidential 17 57lbs mains/53lbs crosses. These generate sufficient power and loads of spin using a semi-western grip and long loopy strokes.
Im from Chile. First, thank you for the video "open a tennis store" i aprecciated. Second, sorry my english jaja. And third, i used a pure strike Second generation 18x20. At first i made a mistake and buy that patron (i used a pure drive like regular raquet) and took me a while get used to it. Now, is the better pattern jaja. I can swing hard and dont need to think if the ball can be out. Of course the ball goes out sometimes (a lot of times jajajaj) but not as the 16x19. Here in Chile plays a lot in clay court.
Hola amigo yo soy de Bolivia pero no te entendí bien, osea usas 18*20 o 16*19 cual te gustó más?
Me pasó lo mismo cambiando de 16x19 a 18x20 en la Blade, muchísima más seguridad y sin preocuparse por tirarla afuera jaja, tal cual
@@federiconicolascarmona5792 gracias osea tú recomendarías usar 18*20? En qué parte de Chile juegas?
@@enriquegarbay4417 soy de Argentina, depende del nivel de juego y de lo que busques, en mi caso me ayudó más a desarrollar mis golpes, ya que la raqueta te "ayuda" menos y depende más de vos.
@@federiconicolascarmona5792 perfecto mil gracias por la ayuda si busco que la raqueta no ayude mucho, para no mandar mucha pelotas fuera, por la altura de acá.
Also, the 18 x 20 string pattern is for harder hitters needing more control. If you are more advanced and your opponents hit the ball very hard then the dense string pattern will help prevent the ball from flying long when you return their shots. The more main and cross strings stiffen the string bed and that should be taken into consideration if the frame is also very stiff. I disagree with you on feel, a denser string pattern has MORE feel because there is more string making contact with the ball. You can still get a lot of spin with a dense string pattern and agree that flat ball hitters do well with a dense string pattern. Dense string patterns are harder to play with and generally are for more advanced players.
I use a 16x19, Wilson Pro Staff 95 BLX. As a true American, love that open string pattern with plenty of spin. I did try the S model but it took away the feel and control that the Pro Staff is known for.
I am from Malaysia. I use head gravity tour with 18×20 string pattern. For me, it definitely gives me good control to my game. It is true that this racket has less power but it is okay for me.
From Utah and play an 18X20. It makes me play more precisely and punishes me when I get lazy and neglect proper footwork. But sometimes I like to mix it up and use a 16X19 and get the power and spin, but I lose some control. They definitely play differently, but I am large and powerfully built (6'5" 275 lb) so I get the power I need form the 18X20 by full swings and I like the flatter trajectory.
From Manila, Philippines. I use Babolat Pure Strike Tour 18x20. I benefit from the control this racket generates. Neutralizes my over whippy and spinny habit. Works well with me me.
This makes no sense. For as long as the game has been played on clay, topspin has always been an advantage due to its increased effect on that surface. One would expect that clay court players would prefer a more open pattern racket to maximise topspin. If the manufacturers are claiming that Europe has more sales of 18x20s due to more clay court play, the only logical explanation is that the denser pattern reduces breakage on a surface that is hard on strings. I find it hard to believe that 18x20s would be purchased with the idea of facilitating flatter shots for finishing points on clay. That’s not how the clay court game is played.
@@overdrive_tennis If the bounce is irregular, you'd want the bigger sweet spot a 16x19 would offer
@@derekwhite8196 Hi. Interesting idea. You may also find this information useful: Not long ago I asked a high level clay player from my country why he uses 18x20 racquets, and he said he feels 16x19 patterns make his shots too deep, so he prefers less depth because he already generates enough speed, depth and topspin with both his forehand and backhand. Maybe that helps. Greetings!!
18x20 is more for old school tennis players. A lot of elderly who only play flat are using these types of rackets (speaking for the Netherlands).
@@qzer1rules2 it's an interesting observation. I recently read an article from a former atp pro, and he said 18x20 made sense when playing with "soft" strings (gut and nylon), but today there's no reason to use it with polys. So he advocated for 16x19 and 16x20 patterns. And players used to play flatter before polys appeared.
From Sydney Australia, using Blade 98 (2015) 18x20 and all previous racquets have been 18x20 (ncode six one, ksix one, blx sixone). I'm a flat hitter, find I actually lose some feel with the 16x19 and its way too lively even with a dead poly.
I'm using head prestige youtek 18x20, it's great overall ! the only downside it takes longer time to string the cross string.
Try Round the world stringing. Its great on that racket.
I am your one of the fan form india
I play Wilson Pro Staff 6.1 95 Hyper Carbon 18/20. From 🇬🇧 on hard court and syn grass. Amazing racquet strung low. Get great spin, can hit the ball harder confidently, but most important is the touch and feel. (also have Ezone 98+ which is open as getting old and arm needs a break🙄)
Love my Head Youtek Prestige MID/MP with 18x20. I mainly play on hard courts in Dallas/Fort Worth area in Texas and with a flatter play style
What strings and tension do you use?
@@augustblood6810 I did use regular kirschbaum SG 17G @ 62lbs for a few years but then got tennis elbow, so now i use Gamma SG 17G @ 52-50lbs (which feels great but still little soreness). But now I am experimenting with some multi strings like Wilson Sensation 17g @ 52lbs and I ordered more multi's like RIP Control, Velocity MLT, X-one biphase and Gamma Live Wire Professional.
@@DuyTran-ku8yl Try the x one biphase mixed with Vokl cyclone - it's a good hybrid with this racket.
@@augustblood6810 I recently developed TE and i was thinking about trying some type of hybrid string like cyclone or cyclone tour but a lot of people told me to not try Poly's since I have TE...
Always enjoy your contents. I’m in SoCal and I play with 16x20 as my main rackets and have another set with 16x19. I lived in Japan awhile ago and most of them are also playing 16x19. Cheers
I am from Australia. I play the Wilson Ultra Tour 18/20. I hit with a lot of spin so the 18x20 helps me flatten it out, has better feel and helps my slice so much.
Also the strings in an 18x20 last me 3 hours of intense hitting per racket. 16x90 only lasts me like 1 hour of intense hitting.
Uhm, soo you have to restring your racket every 3 hours?? Are you doing something wrong or am I? 😅😅😅 I get new strings every 2 to 3 months ish😅
Stick of choice is the head graphene 360 speed MP. 16x19 pattern. Paired with a poly/syn gut hybrid, it provides the power, spin, and control I look for in the 300g unstrung weight class
I am from NYC. For my flatter stroke, and also control. Which I think very important. (I’ve four racquets of 18x20 new blade 98 v7.)
1 plus point is you dont have to string them extra tight for control > less stress on the racquets
Houston TX. I love the Wilson Blade 98 18x20. I prefer the control it gives me. I have no problem generating my own power since I do a lot of weight training. It's also nice not breaking my strings so fast.
I am from Germany and like 16x19 way more. I tend to play (too) much Spin, that's why for me, 18x20 simply doesn't feel right (although otherwise I wouldn't break strings that fast).
In my region at least 80 - 85% play 16x19. The typical Babolat Tweener Rackets are pretty common over here. On our red clay lots of spin can be very important as hitting through the ball comes with a lot of risk on the slow surface, even on a higher level. There are opponents that just reach EvErY shot...
Great Video!
How the video is great when it claims the opposite you do?(You are right btw, clay requires much more spin)
@@Tech0BG In my statement I rated the whole video, independent if this one message ist true or not. I simply like the fact that he releases content for his viewers every single day.
Thx
Australian, use an 18x20 Graphene XT Prestige MP... I find if you've got issues with your shot mechanics, an 18x20 is going to show you immediately. Especially the launch angle and top spin or lack there of. You've got to do all the work. It helped my game switching from a 16x19 to an 18x20
I only started a few years ago but yes, I found the same, a low powered 18 x 20 racquet really helped me work getting a better swing. I guess for most players though a 16 x 19 is the better choice at the club level if they just are out to have fun.
I'm from Spain i play in clay and i have 3 18x20 blade, but the other day y played with a 16x19 and i prefer that power and spin
From England, now use Blade v7 18x20.
I keep the ball in the court more, seem to have loads more feel and control than previous Pure Drive 16x19 from 2017 and Wilson Ultra v2 16x19. More enjoyable to play with too. There are so many variables multi filament/ poly strings, tension, racket beam thickness, frame flex/stiffness etc. All I know is, it suits me with 18x20. Great channel btw, I've learnt a lot from here, particularly regarding different string types.
And the 18x20 keeps tension, so you don't have to re-string because the shots go long very quick with a 16x19.
Although 16x19 is the dominant string pattern, it really depends on the individual player and their playing style. I demoed both Blade 98 16x19 and 18x20, and I actually prefer the feel of the 18x20. The 18x20 has a more consistent and stable feel to me. I disagree that 18x20 feels "deader". Also, the ability to generate spin is mostly dependent on technique, not on the equipment. Honestly tho, the difference between 16x19 and 18x20 is not that big, at least with respect to the Blade 98. I ended up going with the 18x20 because I am confident that I can generate my own spin.
Hi, I use a Prostaff 97S 18x17 for 4 years already and before that I played a Blade 19x16. When I transitioned from Blade to ProStaff I tried the other ProStaffs and didn’t feel confortable, felt stiff, dead and not much spin. This discontinued version of ProStaff, the 97S felt very confortable, lively and with pop and spin without losing the control of the ProStaffs. I inmediately bought 3 and play with them until now with Luxilon Alu Power 48gms.
For an advanced player in Europe, we mostly use 18/20. Especially with the HEAD Speed Pro Series. It gives you more control and at the same time power, which you don’t get with 16/9. You need to be advanced as a player to feel the difference. It is a bit softer. But if you hit hard, you can control the ball. Also if you Spin or slice. Much more feel and control at the same time with power.
Im from holland and use the 18x20 just swiched from the blade 18x20 to the vcore pro hd, really love the feel and the control it gave me. I hit flat and through the bal and dont like the high launch angle from the more open patterns
Ik speel nu met een Babolat pure drive 2004 16x19 en als ik een harde service moet terugslaan, vooral met backhand dan gaat de bal of heel hoog terug of niet vlak genoeg. Vergeleken met een Wilson pro staff six one 95 18x20 die ik een paar keer heb gebruikt, de pro staff voelde veel stabieler aan en was ook 33 gram meer tov Babolat (300gr vs 333gr)
I am a bit puzzled why Babolat, an European company, makes most of their racquets 16x19? And viewer request: can you please talk about your favorite wet and dry overgrips?
HK, 16*19, thank you very much!
Thanks. Very helpful.
Surprised to see spin asociated with synthetic courts more than with red clay, maybe because I started playing at the time of Borg, Vilas, Solomon, Dibbs, but don't think that spin went out of fashion on clay after that, for me spin is more associated with clay than with synthetic
I use a Head speed pro (2019 version) which is 18 x 20. I switched from a Yonex VCORE Duel G 330 and that was a 16 x 20 string pattern. Ultimately I don't think the string pattern by itself useful without taking into consideration the head size. An 18 x 20 string pattern in a 100 sq. in. racquet may play very similarly to a 16 x 19 in a 95 sq. in. racquet. IMO, it's all about the spacing between the mains and crosses upon ball impact.
If your a higher player I would recommend the 18x20 much more versatile and if you have good strokes you’ll get plenty of power and spin
Wilson Blade 18x20 fam checking in ✅
I'm from China, and I use Yonex Vcore Pro 97HD. I switched it from RF97, a customized pure strike (16*19) and Prestige MP(18*20). The 97HD has everything I need, including strong spin.
Recently picked tennis back up during the pandemic and am re-training myself on a Yonex VCore 97HD 18x20, in the US. I am starting to prefer the feel of a 'deader' heavier racquet with greater placement control.
Love my Wilson Burn 100S, thats 18x16! Effortless spin, good power. Would love to upgrade to an ultra someday if they make a 100S
Me too! Love my Wilson Burn 100S 18x16!!
I am from Mexico and I like both
I am in the US and play solely with 16 x 19 string patterns. I hit with more spin and it's much easier to play with as well as alot more forgiving on off center hits. The 16 x 19 pattern is also much easier to serve with, easier spin and more pop. I have been using the new Blade v7 98 16x19 but it is not as open as other racquets with the same string pattern. You need to be more precise with your strokes and footwork with this frame.
Angell makes a very open 16x19 pattern which I like very much. I also play with their K7 Red model. The feel, spin and comfort is probably the best in the industry. I am leaning towards the K7 Red as my main frame.
Mostly play now with 16x20 VS Tour, but I have to play two handed backend to spin it properly. One handers (flat hits) on the backend side only work well on my only 18x20 Blade V6.
from Iran and the city I live in has clay courts but I play with 16x19, maybe I like it because I'm more of a beginner and I like the power 16x19 provides me but 18x20 feels a little weird for me
I'm in the US and I've recently gotten back into playing tennis again. I've been hitting with Head Graphene Touch Prestige MP 18/20
how is it? thinking of getting one before they run out
@@RenzoAMA it's definitely a good racquet..if you know what you're doing. I mainly use it as a training tool to help improve my game. But to play with it in a match, it's too demanding for my skill level
@@kazuyafan906 been playing with it for a week now and I love it, its my main one now, slightly more demanding than what I was used to but very rewarding in exchange
Hello everyone. What's the difference between 16x19 skip 7&9 and 16x19 skip 8 in terms of performance? For instance Ultra vs Clash string pattern
what a big, beautiful wall.
I use a 16x19 Head Extreme used to use a 18x20 Head Speed Pro. The Extreme suits my game better. When looking for a new racket just play test as many rackets as possible and one will just click. I’m not a fan of the extreme colour scheme but I do like the way it plays. It feels like a Head clone of the Babolat Pure Drive. From the U.K. playing hard court, clay court and astro turf.
Very helpful video! I think the modern prince racquet is good enough for those who want classic feel and control, but I don't seem to see it in your shop. I just order a prince textreme 100P. Plus I USE 18*20 from Macau🤗
Got exectly the same stick, playing mostly on clay. Greetings from Poland
I'm finding myself playing more doubles now and feel like I need to switch to an 18X20 and around a 98 because my doubles game is geared more towards hitting targets (accuracy) and hitting more half volleys/volleys instead of rallying from the backcourt. I'm trying to hit flatter or with slice to make my opponents hit up to the net player. It seems much easier to do with a denser pattern than with a 16X19. Volleys seem better too. Thanks for the video!
I never knew about this or paid attention to it when I purchased rackets . Now I know
Jordan Stopper really?
Love my Wilson 97 tour's 18x20. Love the control with a plush feel mixed with a softer feel. If I need more spin or power, ill incorporate that in with string gauge, string type, and string tension....
From US btw
I’m from the Netherlands and I’m using a Diadem Elevate Tour 98 in a 16x20 pattern. In the pro shops over here they also don’t have that much 18x20 rackets. Probably the same rackets as in the States. But maybe they sell a little bit more of them. They seem ti be pretty popular with high level players (I think around 25-30% plag with an 18x20 pattern).
Hi, like your videos very much. Very informative and to the point. I would like to suggest to use a wireless microphone like the one that seems you use in this video so that your voice comes through microphone. When you move away from camera or turn is hard to hear. Just a suggestion
I play a Yonex Ezone DR 98 which is 16/19 and I break string way too often for my taste especially on sand regardless of the quality of the strings. While it gets restrung practically every week I switch to my reserve racquet which is the head speed mp 315 with 18/20 pattern. It's my only 18/20 racquet and it lasts triple amount of time because I can't generate the same kind of spin like the Yonex.
Canada, Gravity pro User 18 by 20, Gives me more control and the ability to spin when I need it.
Just switched from a Babolat Aero VS Tour (16x20) to a Wilson Burn 100s (18x16) about a month ago and my doubles game has gone up significantly. I am from the US and play only on hardcourt. Prefer the 18x16 (uncommon) string pattern at a low tension of 52.
In EMEA, 16x19, also has an 18x20 of the same frame in the bag when everything isn't working.....
I play in London and other European places, either on slow high bouncing red clay or fast hard courts. On hard, I’m looking to use the speed of the court and hit flatter. So 18/20 characteristics. On clay, I want to take advantage of the higher bounce of the surface so play with more topspin, 16/19 characteristics. If anything I’d expect there to be more 18/20 sold in countries where there are a lot of fast hard courts. I play with customised Clash 100, headlight to get my SHBH above my shoulder. I lock the string bed (crosses 2 lbs higher) to lower the ball trajectory a bit - works as a half way house between the two string patterns, IMO.
I play with a 18 by 20 racquet im from SA but I didn't really have a choice I never got to pick now I know what to pick
I have 2 racquets, Babolat Pure Drive 16x19 and Head Radical 18x20.
16x19 is better for my forehand because I play with lot of spin (semi-western grip) and 18x20 is better for my backhand because my backhand is flat.
Overall I like 16x19 more because I play 70% forehand.
I just got the yonex vcore pro 97HD. Have been using RF97 and just wanted to see what its about. I am liking it so far. Oh btw, i’m from Atlanta, GA.
I’m in San Francisco, CA. When demoing racquets this year my two favorites were the Speed Pro and Prestige MP. I didn’t realize there were so few 18x20 sticks. Now I’m wondering whether or not that’s a coincidence. I ended up getting the Speed Pro. My old racquet is a 16x20 (Babolat Pure Control Team).
Why do people in forums (Americans too) say that the Blade 18x20 is amazing and the 16x19 is total crap? Is it just because they like to go opposite to whatever direction the mass goes?
Used to play with head speed mp 16x19 but switched to the speed pro 18x20. I still get great spin with it and enjoy a little more control.
From Singapore. I have played with a Wilson (18x20) all my life (starting with the Wilson Profile Hammer) without realising its significance until recently. I have been very comfortable with this string pattern as I like hitting through the ball. Only issue is that there is very little margin for error due to low net clearance. Only realised the difference when I bought a racket with a 16-19 string pattern (again not an intentional choice) - Wilson Pro-Staff. The ball launch was way higher and I had to change my strokes to keep the ball from flying off the court. I had been trying to generate more spin with the 18x20 not realising it was more difficult with such a string pattern. Still, the 18x20 feels great as I use a multifilament string - Technifibre TGV 16 Gauge strung at 53 lbs. Great feel, comfort and control. I am now trying the 17 Gauge to see if there is significant addition to spin. Just got the Wilson Blade 100 v.8 (a 16x19). Enjoying it but again some stroke adaptation required. And yes, the strings break a whole lot faster with a 16x19.
16x 15 for me. I love the spin and enjoy stringing rackets 😀
Tom Wharton Sounds like you are using a Steam S or older model Ultra...
Me too