What does it take to WIN in ONE TURN with Obeka, Splitter of Seconds?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- What does it take to win in EDH with Obeka, Splitter of Seconds? How many upkeeps do we need and what are the best cards to help us win in Commander?
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What upkeep cards will YOU include in an Obeka brew? Let me know 👇
I am thinking of things that give me the initiative, actually.
Anowon the Ruin Sage
Blood Tyrant
Braids, Conjurer Adept
Armageddon Clock
Avarice Amulet
Darksteel Reactor
Braid of Fire
Creeping Dread
Demonic Pact (if you wanna run some Harmless Offering effects)
I could list more, but trust me, there are a LOT of cards that say "at the beginning of your upkeep." Even some Planeswalker Emblems would work. These are just some of my favored ones since they do everything Grixis usually does, but even meaner because of how Obeka works. Also, yes, I was already working on an Obeka deck, and these are some of the cards on my list! I left out the courts since you already mentioned those, lol.
Shaun, Father of Synths
Bria, Riptide Rogue
Dragon Master Outcast
As Foretold
Paradox Haze
Super fun wincon. Replicating Ring and Mechanized Production! There's a TON of fun synergy to this commander.
All of them
Cant wait to make a Suspend-Initiative-Monarch deck lol
Ancestral Visons and Wheel of Fate just got an upgrade.
Thats what I thought when I saw her too! Glad I'm not the only one lol
Heh, not the first time we've seen this. Obeka is going in my ninth doctor/Clara deck. Before obeka, most upkeeps I've ever gotten in a gold fishing turn with ninth doctor is 22.
I'd also point out that in edh, it's almost never required that you deal ALL the damage to your opponents.
With multiple upkeeps, court of vantress (and other "on upkeep make a copy" effects) becomes an amazing combo piece with any of the damage win cons.
I'm curious! How do you get 22 upkeeps with the Ninth Doctor? I was considering building them.
I'm also confused about this, because his ability specifically states "untaps during the untap step" so unless you tap him in untap phases, which players can't take priority during, it wouldn't net you any additional upkeeps except the first from the untap.
@@Cy8erTron1x Clones and triggered ability copies. Still 22 is more than sounds plausible.
@@mathewsloat6848 ahhhh, I didn't even think about duplicates lol, my apologies. Thats pretty sweet sounding, I can imagine a helm of the hosts or a mirror box/gallery strat now 😅
@@mathewsloat6848 @Cy8erTron1x 22 is unlikely to happen in a real game unless I'm REAL lucky on my draws and the table doesn't draw their interaction, hence the "gold fishing qualifier", but with that said, it goes like this:
Ninth Doctor
+ 2 of Sakashima Thousand Faces, Irenicus' Vile Duplication, Sakashima of a thousand faces, or spark double (I only run two of these in the deck)
+ Clara Oswald (doubles for all the clones as well)
+ Paradox Haze
+ Roaming Throne
+ standard upkeep
= 11 upkeeps
+ Sphinx of the Second Sun (or with MH3, Shadow of the second sun)
= 22
It's a huge boardstate, and if you do actually manage to assemble that board state, you are probably killing the table with drain effects, direct damage effects, or some huge board of tokens created in those upkeeps. While it might be nearly impossible to get that high in an actual game, getting to 5 - 8 upkeeps is actually pretty common
So far, my experience has been on focusing on just the initiative, as I had a dimir dungeon deck, and all I had to do was add red, and swap some cards in and out.
The initiative is super resilient, it is very hard to deal with if you are not playing an initiative deck yourself. It is not the fastest way to win with Obeka, however it can't be understated how good it is value wise. The first room gives you color fixing, the left side room after that buffs obeka, and so on, it just snowballs really effectively.
I have won almost every game since swapping the commander to her, and oh lord is it fun!
Hatred seems like a solid win con. Instant speed +×/0
Creeeping bloodsucker stayed in my version because having monarchy really increases the damage you take. The 3 hp can really help stabilize a longer game.
Especially if you plan on casting hatred 😂
I'm a total sucker for Descent into Avernus. I just like the card even on its own. I found this commander by total accident tonight. And I'm immediately in love. I'm not great at the theory crafting side of this game so maybe I'm talking out my butt when I say this, but I feel like the deck functions even without the commander online. Upkeep triggers will still happen each turn like normal at least. And unless you're disproportionally stronger than the other 3 players in your pod, chances are you won't always be the focus of everyone's ire. And there are other cards to mirror her effect so to speak. Such as Sphinx of the Second Sun or The Ninth Doctor.
And depending on what all you want to focus on, I can imagine that you'd also have additional layers of redundancy anyways.
I recently built Obeka and Tamiyo's journal and replicating ring have been great. What Grixis does really well IMO is have varied options. Some games opponnents may be able to kill your creatures as soon as they enter, making Embereth bad but Palace Siege better.
As for evasion, Vanishing is really great because it's an aura and enchantment synergies (like Auramancer's Guise for example) are really easy and phasing for 2 mana is going to keep Obeka alive in almost every scenario.
While winning in one turn is most often better than winning over multiple turns, I feel like you can really lean into the reliability Grixis can provide via tutors, different-mechanically-but similar-end-result options to have counteranswers to basically whatever your opponnents may try to shut you down.
There's some interesting cards with cumulative upkeep like Braid of Fire, Psychic Vortex and Herald of Leshrac. As Foretold, Reality Strobe and Chronozoa are nice cards to be in the list, also. 😄
I agree with Kozilek as the best but I also don’t play Eldrazi. Thanks for another great one!
Great video, Solphim is another good damage booster!
I noticed you wrote monarch = 3/1 knight, but you actually get the knight regardless of monarchy.
Thanks again!
Ah yes, paradox haze, the commander.
Such a cool card, thanks for making this
I finally beat my friend’s Atraxa super friends deck with Obeka. It was so amazing! Still trying to make it even better, I’m really in love with this card.
Tavern brawler is a pretty nuts card in the deck, buffing Obeka a bunch and getting some card advantage, with something like world at war you also get 2 additional combats in one turn for 5 mana
Was thinking of using Tavern Brawler. Ty!
This is a great list and looks a lot more rounded than the one I did. I went a little more all in on upkeeps and less interaction overall while still opting for Descent but alongside Lifegain in your upkeep from stuff like Vensers Journal, Ill-gotten Inheritance, Palace Siege, and Subversion (I wish I could track down a Creeping Bloodsucker and use trade for it). Another card I have been considering to go alongside Descent is Lich's Mirror as a way to reset if you get enough upkeeps to kill everyone all simultaneously with Descent.
would lifelink counters + move a lifelink counter on descent work well enough as well lol
one thing that works really well is the rings of X that each upkeep if its blue, red or black for each equipment obeka gets a counter
The red one is in my list!
Ring of Evos Isle is a decent balance of protection and upside too; (2) for Hexproof until end of turn isnt terrible if you have a Treasure producer, and given how Obeka works the rings effectively doubles her power every swing. Not *quite* as impactful as Valkas' Haste, but I plan to run both.
Loved the video and some great tech! I just started building a Kethek, crucible Goliath top deck mattters deck with cards like Sin Prodder and Protection Racquet tutorable with Kethek’s ability! WOTC are making commanders that forfill every creative deck design space. I’ll stick with Kethek for the challenge of no blue but I reckon after watching this I’ll eventually tweak it to Obeka 😅
Thopter spy net work is good too. Make a thopter on your upkeep and get card draw when a thopter does combat damage. I've ended turns with enough thopters to make a small air force.
Civic saber is a card I'm very high on. Three extra power for 1 cmc+1 equip mana feels like a big deal when that translates into upkeeps.
Did you look at conditional win con cards? You could use Obeka to proc Mortal Combat/Revel in Riches/Darksteel Reactor/Triskaidekaphile/Battle of Wits immediately after you play it, for example.
I was thinking adding cards to copy obeka , then endless evil , virtue of persistence, followed footsteps, you can also win with curse of unbinding to mill yourself for a lab Maniac win , Tamiyos Journal to search for more stuff in your deck, the self mill route is definitely possible
If I wasn't already building OG Obeka, and hadn't already bought the Phyrexian Dreadnought I would totally go for this build.
Could definitely slip a 'Beseech The Mirror' in there to sac-cast a Court card from library unexpectedly....
Monsterous rage, etalis favour, last chance effects with original obeka aswel.
Master multiplied, mirror box teamed with blade of selves. Or classoc spark double.
Brash Taunter and Fatal Attraction just seems funny. I'd call it "you should see the other guy"
I bought Obeka because it is very different commander and because i already have some of that cards. Maybe Court of Ire could be good too. If u play a multiplicator as Fiery Emancipation, only needs conect with Obeka an you can eliminate an opponent. 😊
I’ve put Obeka in with my Shrines deck. The honden shrines trigger during the upkeep, however if you have the other shrines that powers up the honden shrines a lot more
It’s a shame the new shrines trigger during the end step
@@CommanderMechanic it’s true.. but in a five color deck, sanctum of all and all of the hondens will wreck the table and put you in a far better position.
Nice deck ideas! Way to "Get Creative!" 😆
I would replace Court of Cunning with Court of Ire, since it seems your goal is to burn, not mill. Sure only hits 1 target BUT target means if you only land for 2 upkeeps or 3 that could be removal to live another turn, or if you have 1 opponent at much higher life total then the more focused heavy damage can knock them down into lethal for the shared damage.
But hey, that's the fun of making a deck, adjusting to suit personal tastes
One wins the game in less than 10 upkeeps, the other takes over 17 🤷♂️
I am very excited for Obeka and all the upkeep cards that can be used!!!
Which are you most excited for?
@@CommanderMechanic As Foretold, The Tenth Doctor, anything with suspend, Replicating Ring
Friendship with belkor ended........Obeka has been added as a new friend.
Alternate win cons seem strong since you can win after damage. Triskadekaphile with Phyrexian Arena seems good.
Darksteel Reactor is one folks have tossed out a lot too!
Mechanized Production on a manarock/boots.
7 upkeeps to instantly win the game
Looking forward to your other vids.
Can't wait for MH3, Clone Zone will be fun!
Now i will Put the Elephant in the Room: Timesifter
As long as you keep winning once, you can win the game
Real men play Epic spells. (Enduring xxx from OG Kamigawa block)
Obeka is a monolithic commander; nobody will let it connect, so counterspells are a must
I can't wait to build this deck.
I got to play through a few more reps this weekend and it’s so good
No way you actually call her "Obeaka" like that.
I've seen so many videos where they all say "Oh-bee-ka". Maybe they also say say "I'm going to bed." as "I'm going to bee-d."
All of the fates reforged seiges are on my radar. Filtering, impulse draw, and a drain effect
Darksteel Reactor will absolutely be in my build!
Inevitability is excellent yes!
Question?
With how it is wordered is the upkeep proportionate to how much damage she deals or is it how many times she has dealt damage such as one hit equals 1 upkeep?
It's based on how much damage she deals. Deal 2 combat damage, get 2 additional upkeep steps. Deal 7 combat damage, get 7 additional upkeep steps. It's all because of the text "that many", which is looking for a variable amount you just generated the value of.
If it was based on how many times she dealt damage, it would just say you get "an additional upkeep step", because it's already triggering each time she deals damage.
" _Oh-BEAK-Ah_ "
she doesn't have a beak tho
amazing video
Think Tank and Gate to the Aether would be interesting in this deck
If there were green identity, i would say just get the giant background, instantly make her a 10/10 xD
Endless ranks of the dead and scarab God.
Court of Ire will be in my list.
single target tho 😩
@@CommanderMechanic Yeah, its not as good but 7 damage can take out the scariest opponent nice and fast. That said, If I build this I will be building Grixis Treasures and angling for that sweet sweet Revel in Riches win.
Eldrazi Smash! is the real way to win in one turn :P
Great video! How many effects do you think should be ran to ensure that obeka can get through? I’m trying to find that balance, I have around 8-9 right now.
Since the WHOLE POINT of the deck is to have Obeka connect, the more the better. 8-10 is realistic but you really only need 1 at a time so I wouldn't go more than 12 max. My list has only 6 UNBLOCKABLE affects, but a few more that give evasion like flying.
@@CommanderMechanic thank you for the insight! I’m excited to play this deck
@@kingpunis3492 Thassa was mentioned in the video as a great Upkeep trigger; Scrying before you proc all the draws/pseudo-draws from stuff like Dark Confidant is fantastic. But what else is fantastic is 2 mana Unblockable from an indestructible enchantment. I already use her in my Galea deck, and have stolen a lot of games from Scrying a land to the bottom to draw more gas, then immediately making an unstoppable swing.
@@researchinbreeder that is some great insight, I will be sure to make room for Thassa in my deck
Remember there are lots of lands that work as wel
Access tunnel
Black gate
Shizo
Rogues passage
She’s also going in Tom Bomb
Just as long as you're aware that Sagas trigger after your draw step and NOT in your upkeep! And the draw step is NOT part of the upkeep!
@@CommanderMechanic ha yes you’re correct. Thank you. I was about to do something very stupid.
“Clone zone”
Love it ❤️
JUND EM OUT!
Eldrazi smash!
Eldrazi Smash
Obeka Mill 😅
People are whining about Voja... This will be the new Public Enemy #1.
yeah but at least it doesn’t have ward 3
Voja is way easier to pull off, way more easy to protect, way faster to be broken, way more powerful in general. Just way less fun.
Nope. Just about the way people are mispronouncing card names.
Obeka dies to removal.
Red combat tricks with dubbelstrike.
Temur battle rage 👀
@@CommanderMechanic yes and things like Barge In a red mana give trample and a buff
@@alexanderjosefsson4729 Gotta love the Two-handed Axe; A Double Strike trick Adventure, after which point it becomes an equippable damage doubler
Clone zone ifykyk.
- *Wizard of the coast*
You can get the win faster using alternate win conditions like hellkite tyrant, revel in riches, or mechanized production. These wins will use equal or less upkeeps to win
Horizon Stone to float all those untaps
The untap isn’t actually included in the upkeep - the untap step is it’s own step!
I had a draft of my build that used Horizon Stone next to a Braid of Fire, but it ended up not being worthwhile since most of your expensive stuff is getting cheated to the field with cards like Sheoldred or Braids
JUND EM OUT
do-do found at 1:58.
Clone zone!!
I think your forgetting about the equipment that gives myriad
The tokens die from legendary rule before they deal damage
Shrines.
CLONE ZONE
Who is Obeeeeka? I only know of Obeka
four the answer is 4
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i always hear people say O Beh ka
real chads use Mana crypt
I’ve heard Oh Beak Uh before but I usually call her Oh Becky
Shame I have to attack….
I've never heard her name pronounced OBEEka. I've always heard OBECCA .
Get Creative!
Get creative !
I can't take this video seriously for every time you mispronounced her name. It's so annoying.
Get creative😂
arma clock eldrazi conscription
I had a grixis ninth doctor- clara oswald deck. So obeka is just going to take that over as the commander.
Also, give creeping blood sucker infect.
Heh do do work 😅
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Get Creative!
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