I may be the only person who likes the look of the Type R better than the Type S. The Only thing I don’t like about the Type R is the look of the 3 exhaust tips.
I saw a red Type R for the first time a couple days ago, great looking car! Wait till you jaibreak the ecu and ad a tune! Turns into a different car!!!
I don't know if our roads are smoother or if they changed the suspension configuration, but the R mode doesn't seem 'that' stiff here in Australia. It's definitely not soft, but not horrible, But every video I watch from the US people say it is.
Great drive man i think a lot of those corners you couldve just stayed in 3rd but thats just me haha the car def needs a downpipe and full exhaust the power doesnt seem enough at all
100% haha. Mostly downshifting for the extra sounds for you guys, but also because I hadn't driven the road in awhile so for some of the corners I was preparing for a tighter/slower turn than it turned out to be. As for power, it's plenty. Keep in mind this road is a steep uphill climb.
Its important for us to note that emissions don't allow for the N/A VTEC era. These motors make so much more power anyways, let's be real guys it's not 1998 anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I love the car. (My brother had a FK8 and now the FL5, but I never own a Type R...😭) I love the everything about the FL5 and FK8 but the steering feel. I don't understand that nearly all the content creators said the steering feel is top notch, but I disagree. The FL5 steering is very precise, but it feels stiff and numb. I drove the Focus RS/ST and Fiesta ST before, even the SVT Focus I had long time ago, they are all have better steering feel than the Type R. Steering feel is the one thing Honda never good at. Again, I'm not saying the FL5 steering is bad, but just the feel isn't quite right. Anyway, great video. Keep it up man.👍
It's good *for electric power steering*. Compared to most cars at a similar or lower price point, the steering is great. Also thanks for the kind words! Thanks for watching
Man, I know it’s a good car, can’t dispute that, but I find the looks a bit uninspired and the fake sounds just wreck what should be a more authentic soul experience. I miss all the vtec theatre from civics past…. The EP3 if we got that over here would be the crowning champ I think. But still a good car for sure. Just……🫤
Yeah I've heard you can swap in the Active Sound Controller from the Type-S to improve it a bit, but I'm not sure that'll give you the occasional pops the Type-S has when the turbo gets hot. N/A vs. forced induction is a forever conversation! Torque or noise. Pick one.
all you have to do is put the engine in comfort to diminish the fake noise. headifold turbo engines all sound kinda lame regardless unless you just make them obnoxiously loud like Hyundai does with the N stuff @@JimmyDShea
Do you own one or are you just jumping on the hater wagon for those that wish they did lol. Good car is an understatement it’s a great car and I know because I own one. I’ve had many cars over the years and I’ve learned and watched people try to pick them apart on the internet . There isn’t a car made in this world that haters don’t thrive to find something or things they don’t like about them . Funny and sad at the same time . One thing for sure my FL5 Type R puts a smile on my face everytime I slide in to the drivers seat and hit my first turn more then any car I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned many 👍🏻👊🏻
Love this, the roads look awesome! Agree with your thoughts and sentiments about styling compared to type s. Very curious how they both feel to drive but think they would be enjoyable from your feedback.
i had an integra a spec but i moved to the Type R instead of Type S mainly because the type R seats were better padded and supportive to me. though I do miss the a spec comfort features.
I own this car. Same color, tuned, on swift springs and drive it in +R 100% of the time. Not a problem at all. I love it. I genuinely dont understand why people complain its too stiff. Hasnt been my experience at all
@@6mtzhp55 i mean theres also the part where a good deal of the roads in the US are in disrepair because we'd rather spend our money funding useless shit
It’s actually too stiff even for performance. Keiichi tsuchiya, and the other spoon drivers thought comfort mode was the faster than r+ even on smooth Japanese race tracks
Hot hatches are dead. They are now more expensive than decently spec'd midsize luxury sedans. The GR Yaris in Europe went up 20 grand with just a facelift💀
Every single time I think I have my choice of color nailed down...I see it in a different color and I'm back to being indecisive lol Want the white, boost blue, but then I see the red and I'm like 😍
Anyone who thinks turning a/c off actually helps performance is an idiot, maybe if you are drag racing to the millisecond lmao but it's not like it makes a drastic hit or even something you'd notice
@@MrDamburger bro there a clutch inside the a/c compressor meaning going on high RPM will slowly damage your a/c. Also u can feel the difference of air when going high RPM
@@ShaiyanHossain No your wrong, make sure the the type R is parked then make sure the lane assist is off then go to +R mode and hold the traction control button for 5+ sec and It will unlock the full potential. People don’t know this so now u know
I almost thought you were the Topher. I love your review. I purchased an ITS 2024 for about 1K above market price. Accepted. I was willing to do an SI civic as well and even a Type R, but dealer downshot me perhaps because I was in sweatpants despite being able to pay for the car in cash on the spot.... nonetheless. I purchased the Type S Integra 2024 (love it), but was given an Integra Tech Package automatic as a loaner. Woah. I loved that.... I even told myself I would've been okay with purchase of the A-spec 2024 integra. I felt that way until the Type S was delivered to my home by the dealership. Wow. I literally used my 2018 Grand Touring Miata as a cash ball to get the ITS --- Miata is always the answer, and I miss the car -- but this ITS is so much better. I loved your review today and comment at the end.
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Miata is the answer *most of the time* haha. These cars are heavy compared to the old stuff, but they're still so connected to the road.
Honda did a great job at keeping the R's character. I'll never forget seeing one of those type-R civics recently, totally caught my eye. Had no idea they brought it back.
Long distance drives aren't comfortable at all. There's not enough leg room. The ride is super bouncy even on comfort mode. Also when i shift its really smooth and other times its a bit clunky I dont know why...
FK8 here, try turning off auto rev-match. It should make the shifting in between gears or occasions a bit more smooth. You can also do a clutch pedal adjustment.
I love the Type R. It's a marvel of automotive engineering. But I can't look past the fact that I'll have to pay my soul for it. That's why I got an Elantra N with a 6 speed. Similar performance for a fraction of the cost (and it actually sounds like a sports car).
still not a sports car. lexus is350 F sport is the same price and has a slightly faster quarter mile speed and has a proper drive train and suspension and even those are slow for its class. the fact this is slower, less luxurious, and overall less sporty for the same price makes it a no for me. ill never understand the genre of 4 cylinder front wheel drive pretend sports cars.
I own a S2K and looked at an IS350F and 500FSP to replace my other daily driver car. The FL5 and DE5 are way more fun to drive cars. I'd love to just overhaul the IS500 suspension if they offered a manual, but instead they only offer automatic and a somewhat mediocre one at that. It's a shame because the body of the IS refresh looks amazing.
@@6mtzhp55 i feel where youre coming from about the manual option , a manual definitely makes the experience more fun , however just cause a fwd 4 cylinder car has a manual doesnt mean its all of a sudden a sports car either. alot of honda bros and VW guys have a rep for thinking that just cause their car has 2 doors and a manual that its somehow turned into a sports car.
Is350 doesn't compare to this at all as far as sports performance. Straight line aside, the Type R will absolutely murder the Is350 on a track or windy backroad environment. Also comes with a proper manual, and a FAR more tuneable platform. Will make well over 400hp with just a few easy bolt ons and a flash tune. Is350 has very small aftermarket potential.
@@apexcobra.official for the money youre better off buying a previous generation corvette and get the real experience of having a serious sports car with tons of aftermarket support . my point is basically if you want a sports car, buy a sports car. why spend this much money just to pretend.
@teamskdm1 Well, for one, Corvettes are useless outside of sports driving as they're completely impractical cars. Type R is a usable daily car that will beat older Vettes on a track all while getting better MPGs, nicer tech features, cheaper insurance, etc. I can fit my family in the Type R as well as a few weeks of camping gear, drive it halfway across the country to Tail of the Dragon and absolutely crush the road. Can't do that with a Corvette. Also, you can add a few basic bolt ons and tune to the Type R and it'll make the same power to weight ratio as a Corvette...
FL5 is a proper ripper, love mine as a daily! Exhaust and intake is an absolute must.
I may be the only person who likes the look of the Type R better than the
Type S. The Only thing I don’t like about the Type R is the look of the 3 exhaust tips.
I saw a red Type R for the first time a couple days ago, great looking car! Wait till you jaibreak the ecu and ad a tune! Turns into a different car!!!
I don't know if our roads are smoother or if they changed the suspension configuration, but the R mode doesn't seem 'that' stiff here in Australia. It's definitely not soft, but not horrible, But every video I watch from the US people say it is.
Great drive man i think a lot of those corners you couldve just stayed in 3rd but thats just me haha the car def needs a downpipe and full exhaust the power doesnt seem enough at all
100% haha. Mostly downshifting for the extra sounds for you guys, but also because I hadn't driven the road in awhile so for some of the corners I was preparing for a tighter/slower turn than it turned out to be. As for power, it's plenty. Keep in mind this road is a steep uphill climb.
Imagine if Honda releases a special edition trim of Type R where it comes with a ‘new’ B18c5 🔥
Its important for us to note that emissions don't allow for the N/A VTEC era. These motors make so much more power anyways, let's be real guys it's not 1998 anymore.
also because all of the type Rs competition (most notably GTi clubsport and megane rs) are turbo with 270-320hp
Yep I have my old S2000 for those thrills. Going to look at adding a DE5 this weekend. Each drivetrain has its charms.
@@6mtzhp55 I'm a De5 owner it's an awesome car. You won't be disappointed 😎
Where are these roads? They’re beautiful. ❤
My backyard is beautiful what can I say
Don't get me wrong, I love the car. (My brother had a FK8 and now the FL5, but I never own a Type R...😭)
I love the everything about the FL5 and FK8 but the steering feel. I don't understand that nearly all the content creators said the steering feel is top notch, but I disagree.
The FL5 steering is very precise, but it feels stiff and numb. I drove the Focus RS/ST and Fiesta ST before, even the SVT Focus I had long time ago, they are all have better steering feel than the Type R. Steering feel is the one thing Honda never good at.
Again, I'm not saying the FL5 steering is bad, but just the feel isn't quite right. Anyway, great video. Keep it up man.👍
It's good *for electric power steering*. Compared to most cars at a similar or lower price point, the steering is great. Also thanks for the kind words! Thanks for watching
I don't have a lot to compare to except my FK8 and ITR. The steering feel of the ITR is very direct. You can feel everything.
5:40 that downshift was unnecessary and a little painful to hear lol
Man, I know it’s a good car, can’t dispute that, but I find the looks a bit uninspired and the fake sounds just wreck what should be a more authentic soul experience. I miss all the vtec theatre from civics past…. The EP3 if we got that over here would be the crowning champ I think. But still a good car for sure. Just……🫤
I love the looks and fake sound can be deactivated easily
Yeah I've heard you can swap in the Active Sound Controller from the Type-S to improve it a bit, but I'm not sure that'll give you the occasional pops the Type-S has when the turbo gets hot. N/A vs. forced induction is a forever conversation! Torque or noise. Pick one.
all you have to do is put the engine in comfort to diminish the fake noise. headifold turbo engines all sound kinda lame regardless unless you just make them obnoxiously loud like Hyundai does with the N stuff @@JimmyDShea
Do you own one or are you just jumping on the hater wagon for those that wish they did lol. Good car is an understatement it’s a great car and I know because I own one. I’ve had many cars over the years and I’ve learned and watched people try to pick them apart on the internet . There isn’t a car made in this world that haters don’t thrive to find something or things they don’t like about them . Funny and sad at the same time . One thing for sure my FL5 Type R puts a smile on my face everytime I slide in to the drivers seat and hit my first turn more then any car I’ve ever owned and I’ve owned many 👍🏻👊🏻
U trippin about the looks. This thing in person is nuts. Saw a grey one boy oh boy 🔥🔥
Liked before even seeing the video!!!
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Love this, the roads look awesome! Agree with your thoughts and sentiments about styling compared to type s. Very curious how they both feel to drive but think they would be enjoyable from your feedback.
They're both phenomenal! Type-S would keep your back intact after a long road trip, the Type-R will not.
Let's shoot videos soon!
@@RoadsUntraveled I feel that, the Type R seats definitely look the part! Are they still 4 seater?
Yessir, look forward to it!
@@ANDERZENAMG Yup, still 4 seater.
i had an integra a spec but i moved to the Type R instead of Type S mainly because the type R seats were better padded and supportive to me. though I do miss the a spec comfort features.
Looks so good in Red
Agreed. Type-R in red but Type-S in blue
I own this car. Same color, tuned, on swift springs and drive it in +R 100% of the time. Not a problem at all. I love it. I genuinely dont understand why people complain its too stiff. Hasnt been my experience at all
Years of driving crossovers ruined people's tolerance for a rigid suspension. Kind of like malaise era cars in the US.
Same, but a different color with a tune, and lowered with Eibach lowering springs, and I drive in R+ 100% of the time...Right on...my FL5 friend. 😅😅😅😅
@@6mtzhp55 i mean theres also the part where a good deal of the roads in the US are in disrepair because we'd rather spend our money funding useless shit
It’s actually too stiff even for performance. Keiichi tsuchiya, and the other spoon drivers thought comfort mode was the faster than r+ even on smooth Japanese race tracks
You changed the springs and you wonder why people complain the original is too stiff? Are you ok?
Hot hatches are dead. They are now more expensive than decently spec'd midsize luxury sedans. The GR Yaris in Europe went up 20 grand with just a facelift💀
the solution is to not be in Europe :)
u guys killed your own segment
But who wants a nid size sedan?
Never been this early before
Let's make it a habit
Being first in the comment section! Woohoo! Life is complete ! :)
We did it!
We need the Type S mountain run pov drive !
If I ever have another chance to drive one I'll make it happen!
Which place is this ? Sir
where in BC is this road?
You can turn off the mph/kph indicator?
Every single time I think I have my choice of color nailed down...I see it in a different color and I'm back to being indecisive lol
Want the white, boost blue, but then I see the red and I'm like 😍
get the red, but its also the rarest color. i think only
A/C should be off for better power also once your in +R mode hold the traction control button for 5+ seconds n the type r becomes way better
+R doesnt disable TC fully, you still need to do pedal dance to be fully off, not that you should on the street though
Anyone who thinks turning a/c off actually helps performance is an idiot, maybe if you are drag racing to the millisecond lmao but it's not like it makes a drastic hit or even something you'd notice
@@MrDamburger bro there a clutch inside the a/c compressor meaning going on high RPM will slowly damage your a/c. Also u can feel the difference of air when going high RPM
@@ShaiyanHossain No your wrong, make sure the the type R is parked then make sure the lane assist is off then go to +R mode and hold the traction control button for 5+ sec and It will unlock the full potential. People don’t know this so now u know
@@MrDamburger if your honda is old enough the AC stops working anyways
I almost thought you were the Topher. I love your review. I purchased an ITS 2024 for about 1K above market price. Accepted. I was willing to do an SI civic as well and even a Type R, but dealer downshot me perhaps because I was in sweatpants despite being able to pay for the car in cash on the spot.... nonetheless. I purchased the Type S Integra 2024 (love it), but was given an Integra Tech Package automatic as a loaner. Woah. I loved that.... I even told myself I would've been okay with purchase of the A-spec 2024 integra. I felt that way until the Type S was delivered to my home by the dealership. Wow. I literally used my 2018 Grand Touring Miata as a cash ball to get the ITS --- Miata is always the answer, and I miss the car -- but this ITS is so much better. I loved your review today and comment at the end.
Thanks! Glad you liked it. Miata is the answer *most of the time* haha. These cars are heavy compared to the old stuff, but they're still so connected to the road.
Dealers hate when you pay cash because they can't make the extra few thousand on financing
Honda did a great job at keeping the R's character. I'll never forget seeing one of those type-R civics recently, totally caught my eye.
Had no idea they brought it back.
Everything about that Honda Type R is amazing, for its segment, that car is just perfect the way it is
Dude I'm in the lower mainland too looking for good twisty roads
Sea to sky too busy
Can u tell me where that is :)
Yeah Sea to Sky is only good for speeding tickets or casual drives. Just go on Google Maps and look for the curvy lines! ;)
@@RoadsUntraveled fine ...keep your secrets 🤪
Sasquatch Mountain resort Road
@@Mike_burt69 Thank You Sir
Where are these backroads in BC?
Are you using DJI ? Why is the dynamic range so bad?
The fake engine noise is horrible!
The pear is nice!
Long distance drives aren't comfortable at all. There's not enough leg room. The ride is super bouncy even on comfort mode. Also when i shift its really smooth and other times its a bit clunky I dont know why...
FK8 here, try turning off auto rev-match. It should make the shifting in between gears or occasions a bit more smooth. You can also do a clutch pedal adjustment.
I love the Type R. It's a marvel of automotive engineering. But I can't look past the fact that I'll have to pay my soul for it. That's why I got an Elantra N with a 6 speed. Similar performance for a fraction of the cost (and it actually sounds like a sports car).
I get it. I'm hoping to drive the updated Elantra N soon! Veloster N had a great character to it.
@@RoadsUntraveled I love the Veloster N. I actually wanted to get it before I got the EN, but they stopped making it before I had the money :((
Not a fan of the fake sounds
Turn it off or get ear muffs and get an exhaust .Easy fix … have you ever driven one I mean if you could ever get in the seat ?
still not a sports car. lexus is350 F sport is the same price and has a slightly faster quarter mile speed and has a proper drive train and suspension and even those are slow for its class. the fact this is slower, less luxurious, and overall less sporty for the same price makes it a no for me. ill never understand the genre of 4 cylinder front wheel drive pretend sports cars.
I own a S2K and looked at an IS350F and 500FSP to replace my other daily driver car. The FL5 and DE5 are way more fun to drive cars. I'd love to just overhaul the IS500 suspension if they offered a manual, but instead they only offer automatic and a somewhat mediocre one at that. It's a shame because the body of the IS refresh looks amazing.
@@6mtzhp55 i feel where youre coming from about the manual option , a manual definitely makes the experience more fun , however just cause a fwd 4 cylinder car has a manual doesnt mean its all of a sudden a sports car either. alot of honda bros and VW guys have a rep for thinking that just cause their car has 2 doors and a manual that its somehow turned into a sports car.
Is350 doesn't compare to this at all as far as sports performance. Straight line aside, the Type R will absolutely murder the Is350 on a track or windy backroad environment. Also comes with a proper manual, and a FAR more tuneable platform. Will make well over 400hp with just a few easy bolt ons and a flash tune. Is350 has very small aftermarket potential.
@@apexcobra.official for the money youre better off buying a previous generation corvette and get the real experience of having a serious sports car with tons of aftermarket support . my point is basically if you want a sports car, buy a sports car. why spend this much money just to pretend.
@teamskdm1 Well, for one, Corvettes are useless outside of sports driving as they're completely impractical cars. Type R is a usable daily car that will beat older Vettes on a track all while getting better MPGs, nicer tech features, cheaper insurance, etc.
I can fit my family in the Type R as well as a few weeks of camping gear, drive it halfway across the country to Tail of the Dragon and absolutely crush the road. Can't do that with a Corvette.
Also, you can add a few basic bolt ons and tune to the Type R and it'll make the same power to weight ratio as a Corvette...