How good is the Luka Doncic-Kyrie Irving offense?

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • Is Kyrie Irving enough to push the Dallas Mavericks into championship contention? Dallas acquired Irving at the 2023 NBA trade deadline from Brooklyn to pair with MVP candidate Luka Doncic. This detailed film breakdown & scouting report examines how Irving fits alongside Doncic, how he can expand the Dallas offense, and what the Mavs might have to do to jump to the next level.
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  • @epicvicroyepic6725
    @epicvicroyepic6725 Год назад +1110

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      @murkzyyrg Год назад +15

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    • @percsie3072
      @percsie3072 Год назад +27

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    • @carlogaytan7010
      @carlogaytan7010 Год назад +11

      So many people just parrot what Ben says, cuss he's one of the only ones that analyzes the data.

    • @fragger6599
      @fragger6599 Год назад +2

      Facts

    • @cbrown940
      @cbrown940 Год назад +1

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  • @kingajofficial5527
    @kingajofficial5527 Год назад

    the goat channel

  • @j4755
    @j4755 Год назад +1106

    The things the Mavs are missing the most right now is a premier rim protector.
    They’re missing Maxi badly rn but he’s still overtasked being asked to basically carry the defense single-handedly.
    A player like Claxton is exactly who they need

    • @random1234da
      @random1234da Год назад +133

      If Poeltl didn't go to the Raptors he'd be a perfect fit for the Mavs.

    • @hispeedy9111
      @hispeedy9111 Год назад +18

      Agreed but also need a great perimeter defender. I mean they picked up Justin Holiday but I don’t think he’ll be the defensive anchor they need at the perimeter guarding faster guys like fox, Shai, curry etc

    • @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320
      @smittywerbenjagermanjensen320 Год назад +17

      They could pickup Dwight

    • @j4755
      @j4755 Год назад +42

      @@hispeedy9111yea I still see them being a few pieces away from a true championship level team. A high level rim protector and a good defensive wing are priority #1 and 2

    • @jibraelnadela281
      @jibraelnadela281 Год назад

      why are you the mavericks need a center😫

  • @VoltaDoMar
    @VoltaDoMar Год назад +410

    I've been following the Mavs all season, and I can tell you it's both exhilarating and kind of frightening how valuable Josh Green has become. Exhilarating because he's taken the leap into such a valuable all-around player who fits with their best players, but also kind of frightening, like, "Should we really be depending on a third-year player to be our third best player every night?" But, they don't have a choice at this point. Josh has made himself indispensable

    • @thegreatestjohn
      @thegreatestjohn Год назад +8

      i agree i’ve hardly missed a mavs game this season and when he was out injured there was a lot of points where we missed his electricity both on offense and defense but as you said weird that he seems to be the third best player on the court considering the aspirations the team has

    • @de4ds1ghtcsgo94
      @de4ds1ghtcsgo94 Год назад +5

      @@thegreatestjohn his potential is botderline all star. Same with hardy. Th8s team has all but 1 piece to dominate

    • @kohcoh
      @kohcoh Год назад +4

      3rd year is typically the breakout year for most guys who take a step forward in the NBA.

    • @Mark-db1ok
      @Mark-db1ok Год назад +3

      I'm becoming a big Josh Green fan and i'm really happy with how he's elevated his game. He's shown some good defensive instincts at times, so I'm hopeful between that and his athleticism he can replace much of what DFS did on defense. And he seems to have much more to offer on offense than DFS did. Time will tell...

    • @AkshayKumar-fj3ks
      @AkshayKumar-fj3ks Год назад

      @@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 Lol. There's no defense. You can't even win basic games.

  • @jesussaviour9304
    @jesussaviour9304 Год назад +111

    It should be noted that we let Brunson bring the ball up the floor in the Suns series (starting at game 3). It was a big turning point and we should allow Kyrie and Josh to run transitions

    • @JimBrave-vi9ji
      @JimBrave-vi9ji Год назад +28

      Brunson was a smart player. He knew the rhythm best for the team and Doncic even more than Doncic knew. Brunson is old school Real Basketball always thinking. like a Mark Jackson or John Stockton.

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne Год назад +8

      @@JimBrave-vi9jii think Kyrie is even smarter. He will figure it out just as well, and he’s a 100x better than Brunny

    • @dundalis
      @dundalis Год назад +16

      @@JimBrave-vi9ji That’s just BS. No one cared about double teaming Brunson. It’s much easier to make smart decisions when you don’t have to worry about double/triple teams. People don’t understand this when they talk about Luka ball pounding etc. The offensive rating for this team isn’t in the same stratosphere when Luka is off the court and it’s because he collapses all defenses on top of himself like a pack of cards.

    • @johnmarkson1990
      @johnmarkson1990 Год назад +1

      @@JimBrave-vi9ji you clearly did not watch the mavs. brunson is VERY overrated.

    • @JimBrave-vi9ji
      @JimBrave-vi9ji Год назад

      @@dundalis you're BS

  • @goated3285
    @goated3285 Год назад +263

    Idk we would have to see them together a whole season to say. Team chemistry makes a big difference especially once they get in a rhythm of knowing each other & each other’s spots & weaknesses. It’s good to see Luka being welcoming to Kyrie as well so I do hope it can work for at least now.

    • @Christopher-dd1ph
      @Christopher-dd1ph Год назад +11

      lmao. its been a week bro. put some respect on kyrie's name and give him some credit for his ability to piss off teammates.

    • @willmarinac5201
      @willmarinac5201 Год назад +4

      And vice versa. Can't remember seeing Kyrie so engaged. That alone holds promise for not only the Dynamic Duo but the Mavericks once they get the other 3 pieces right ✅

    • @jpgcz
      @jpgcz Год назад +5

      @@willmarinac5201 kyrie’s leaving when the season ends lmao

  • @devinbooker4151
    @devinbooker4151 Год назад +63

    Luka’s lack of movement off ball & his poor effort on defense seem even more glaring now that they have Kyrie. Before you could always somewhat justify it because Luka was literally doing everything. He doesn’t have that excuse anymore. Luka needs to move without the ball

    • @osirisra1476
      @osirisra1476 Год назад +17

      He's not in good enough shape.

    • @readmycomment3707
      @readmycomment3707 Год назад

      @@osirisra1476 He just dropped 36 the other night? Where do you dweebs get your takes from?

    • @jakeartese6632
      @jakeartese6632 Год назад

      I don’t necessarily agree with what he “needs” to improve on in the sense that a player changing and adding skills and move sets affect his other ones like Charles Barkley being to big then to small or kristaps putting on more muscle and changing his play style, I think that if a player is so good that he is in the conversation for best basketball player in the world and he doesn’t play defence that well than the answer is to build a team that gets rid of that problem Dallas can’t afford to loose the skill set luka has just so that he gets up the floor quicker if anything make the team more similar to him (except for the defence) and I agree with the movement without the ball to an extent btw, I’m not trying to grill you or anything I just wanna give you a different perspective

    • @Docrivershater
      @Docrivershater Год назад +2

      @@jakeartese6632 thats a bad argument ngl the guy can always improve and asking him to be moderately active off ball is the bare minimum as an NBA player, certainly for a player of his caliber, its not going to ruin the rest of his game man lmao

    • @tyrellhines9304
      @tyrellhines9304 Месяц назад

      Lukas is ball dominant player he’s the point guard he can’t play off the ball because he can’t defend consistency or move off ball he’s a high volume player who has to score to get himself going

  • @unlimitedgreatness
    @unlimitedgreatness Год назад +82

    Luka needs to condition his body to be able to play both sides of the game.

    • @Matfridt
      @Matfridt Год назад +9

      When he doesn't have to run an entire offense by himself, he plays perfectly fine defense and Kyrie can help with that. He's still struggling with that heel injury, which was apparent with his play VS the Nuggets yesterday. Those who don't watch the Mavs tend to just assume he doesn't know how to defend. He does, but when he has to take 25 shots a game to even give the team a chance to win because everyone else are walking bricks, he doesn't have much left on defense. He really is a solid help defender and he reads passing lanes really well, just needs to be healthy. I think this Kyrie pairing is gonna work well once they get some more reps together

    • @Stinky_Iraqi3000
      @Stinky_Iraqi3000 Год назад +21

      @@Matfridt BS. Luka needed help by having one of hs teammates double his man! Luka is so bad defensively he was doubling ISH FREAKING SMITH with one of his teammates LMAO that is PATHETIC

    • @Christopher-dd1ph
      @Christopher-dd1ph Год назад +2

      @@Stinky_Iraqi3000 exactly. he's TERRIBLE.

    • @Matfridt
      @Matfridt Год назад +20

      @@Stinky_Iraqi3000 This is the kinda takes you end up with when you don't actually watch the Mavs play, but just run with narratives that teenagers on NBA twitter feed you lmfao. When team mates hit shots from the open looks he creates (aka when he doesn't have to take every damn shot), he plays far better defense, everyone who care to actually keep up knows this

    • @michaelhaydenbell
      @michaelhaydenbell Год назад +10

      Bro goddamm yall gotta stfu already about this man's "conditioning" and "lack of athleticism" like you have the slightest clue what kind of shape you gotta be in to do everything he does and like he's not putting up a 30+ pt triple double any given night. Luka is a VASTLY improved defender since he started.

  • @Jeff_2x
    @Jeff_2x Год назад +183

    This will work smoothly imo it’s just their defense will be the issue

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho Год назад +13

      so, it's not gonna work...
      both will statpad like maniacs and the rest of the team will be screwed

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 Год назад +14

      This is exactly why the Nets didnt work. All offense no defense. Easy first round exit this year and if Kyrie goes the Mavs are beyond fucked.

    • @TYLERbOONE1080
      @TYLERbOONE1080 Год назад +2

      @@geordiejones5618well the nets have Claxton who has played like an all nba defender

    • @ninjedi6710
      @ninjedi6710 Год назад

      @@geordiejones5618 no. that stpid covid mandate was the reason it didnt work.

    • @Thatboygtmike
      @Thatboygtmike Год назад +3

      @@geordiejones5618 nets didn’t work because they couldn’t stay healthy lmaoo be real with yourself

  • @yoinkhaha
    @yoinkhaha Год назад +103

    Dallas is gonna learn the hard way that sparkling scoring ability only wins playoffs when combined with some truly versatile defenders.

    • @pavelmakarov3565
      @pavelmakarov3565 Год назад +30

      or Dallas is gonna learn that putting trust in well known nutcase and team cancer is a bad idea

    • @noivern1380
      @noivern1380 Год назад +3

      @@pavelmakarov3565 he can’t be any worse than Rondo was.

    • @noivern1380
      @noivern1380 Год назад +2

      @@pavelmakarov3565 Dallas is the perfect place for kyrie anyways. They believe in all that flat earth crazy stuff too

    • @wataruik2244
      @wataruik2244 Год назад +4

      I just don't understand with Kidd as coach they don't see this issue?!

    • @arrow23
      @arrow23 Год назад

      @@pavelmakarov3565 preach.

  • @behindthearcyt
    @behindthearcyt Год назад +72

    i think luka and kyrie can lead the mavs to a top 5 offense or better in the league just need the role players to hit their open catch and shoot 3s off all the attention luka and kyrie will get from defenses defensively they desperately need maxi klebar to give them some rim protection to hopefully make their defense leauge average

    • @outlander234
      @outlander234 Год назад +7

      You cant just iso and then kick it to the shooter thats terrible one dimensional basketball.

    • @joshjackson3045
      @joshjackson3045 Год назад +2

      @@outlander234 when those shooters can’t shoot or can’t drive to the rim they’re just bad players. And that’s the unfortunate truth. These mavs role players aren’t good enough

    • @matthieusaade3616
      @matthieusaade3616 Год назад +1

      Kleber*

    • @leungsz
      @leungsz Год назад +6

      The hilarious thing is that Luka alone is already a top 5 offense. Kyrie gives them extra juice for the postseason, but the defense remains the key......

    • @dundalis
      @dundalis Год назад +3

      Top 5 offense or better? With just Luka on the court the Mavs had the number 1 offense in the league all season. The only reason they were 9th before the Kyrie trade is they had the worst offense in the league in the 8-12 minutes when Luka sat. They should easily be the number 1-2 offense in the league or something has gone wrong

  • @txmoneymantx
    @txmoneymantx Год назад +95

    The Kyrie and Luka duo is gonna be valuable in playoffs when offenses become stagnant

    • @allenleexyz
      @allenleexyz Год назад +5

      @@AnkitSharma-qm7sg True. also Kyrie!

    • @jordancromwell
      @jordancromwell Год назад +3

      First round exits literally no defense

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Год назад

      if they get to the play-offs ahahahah

    • @goldencoast8896
      @goldencoast8896 Год назад +4

      😂😂😂😂😂😂What play off are talking about

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Год назад

      @@goldencoast8896
      BEFORE the trade with LUKA playing;
      28 wins - 18 losses
      NOW:
      9 wins - 16 losses.
      2 more losses and they tie the losses before the trade when LUKA was playing alone.

  • @vimsical3258
    @vimsical3258 Год назад +38

    Tbf with Kyrie it's usually the same thing; He gives a great performance on the court at first but you're just holding your breath to see what he does when the dust settles...

    • @wallstreetzoomer
      @wallstreetzoomer Год назад +9

      Average kyrie hater

    • @wlee9888
      @wlee9888 Год назад +4

      @@wallstreetzoomer It's true though: Cleveland, Boston, Brooklyn.

    • @dan6481
      @dan6481 Год назад +7

      When the dust settles he still averages 27 ppg. His production never drops

    • @ElSkinsio
      @ElSkinsio Год назад +4

      @@dan6481 if he plays...

    • @dan6481
      @dan6481 Год назад +8

      @@ElSkinsiothat has nothing to with the dust settling. His production doesn't drop when he is on the court.

  • @trecotton4224
    @trecotton4224 Год назад +27

    Can you do a kyrie breakdown I would like to know what makes him effective from an in depth analysis standpoint

    • @Unknomn
      @Unknomn Год назад +3

      This ^. Also compare him with other guards in the league/past players and his impact on the floor. Kind of like the player peaks video he did. I think he is probably waiting till kyrie retires. To make a full in-depth analysis.

    • @Payydae
      @Payydae Год назад

      Kyrie is 1of1 that’s what make him effective

    • @goldencoast8896
      @goldencoast8896 Год назад

      You really need analyst to tell you that??

    • @trecotton4224
      @trecotton4224 Год назад

      @@goldencoast8896 chill I’m tryna get a video of kyrie bro 😂

  • @fpbaby8513
    @fpbaby8513 Год назад +5

    I like luka but he’s literally just 2015-20 Harden, down to the same weaknesses. From habitually showing up out of shape, not putting effort into defense, dribbling a lot, taking a lot of shots, drawing a lot of fouls; I wonder sometimes why he gets more praise/less hate than Harden did. Not that he doesn’t deserve praise, he’s an incredible player, but how come Harden was endlessly mocked and derided for dribbling and not playing defense, while Luka at worst gets “he’ll have to work on it.”
    Once again, I have nothing against Luka, I’m just genuinely curious why it seems like he doesn’t get the same level of vitriol. I personally think that one factor could be that Harden is seen as a playoff choker while the series we’ve seen from Luka have been at all time great levels of performance. That doesn’t really explain/excuse everything though. All I know is that I’ll be paying extra attention to what sort of narratives arise about Luka in the future.

    • @thesnipingspider3852
      @thesnipingspider3852 Год назад

      The issue was for harden he was a ball hog and didn’t try to get his offense involved. He does dribble for 22 seconds and the. Passes it off. Luka does this too but so does every superstar. But harden did it so much and flopped on every call, shot stupid shots and actually played no defense. The difference with Luka is because he’s being used 99% of the time on offense which leaves him gassed on defense. So if he’s tired from balling out on offense then of course he’ll be bad on defense. Harden just didn’t try at all and expected everything to go his way plus harden is a terrible teammate. Harden also choked massively in playoffs but you already said that. Luka is just a young prodigy and just looking at Luka passes and everything he’s done, he’s just a better harden

    • @fpbaby8513
      @fpbaby8513 Год назад

      @@thesnipingspider3852 that’s kinda my point though. Harden “ballhogs” and “just doesn’t try” on defense, but Luka “needs the ball” and is “too tired from carrying the offense to play defense.” They basically function the same but Luka gets a pass for it. I think Luka has the potential to be better than Harden, but he still has a little way to go. Prime Harden was MVP, multiple 1st team All NBA, multiple conference finals, etc.

    • @readmycomment3707
      @readmycomment3707 Год назад +1

      @Fpbaby He gets better in the playoffs, he averages like 35+ in playoffs. He dropped 40 on elite defenders like Kawhi. Harden had multiple games where he scored less than 20 in playoffs.
      So no, the fake narrative that hes Harden is completely b.s. Also Harden cant pass as well as Luka can.

    • @readmycomment3707
      @readmycomment3707 Год назад

      @@fpbaby8513 Its clear you dont watch the games, Lukas already better than Harden based on leading a team to the finals by himself at 22 and putting up better numbers in playoffs.

  • @wataruik2244
    @wataruik2244 Год назад +3

    I don't care how good these 2 are individually or combined, this team lost it's soul after the trade. I'm a big Luka and Mavs' fan. I'm losing interest and hope .

  • @nicklaughery6715
    @nicklaughery6715 Год назад +2

    You won’t believe how it ended

  • @TheRobins1m
    @TheRobins1m Год назад +12

    Thank you! I love Josh Green. I’m biased because I’m Australian but I just think he plays with so much energy and Dallas need that a lot of the time. One of those guys whose stats don’t tell the whole story I think and, as you say, a great foil for players like Luka and Kyrie. I really hope Luka and Kyrie start to gel.

    • @flingstrike8893
      @flingstrike8893 Год назад

      Im from Sweden and I love Josh Green too so you're not biased ^^ alot of games have felt like a shore to watch and the only joy has been to see how much Green has developed, think it was crucial for the team that he wasnt traded

  • @rahilshaik1603
    @rahilshaik1603 Год назад +2

    I love you❤

  • @onlyfacts3178
    @onlyfacts3178 Год назад +3

    DALLAS with LUKA could have gone to the SFINALS again.
    WITH LUKA and KYRIE are a 1st round exit...

  • @michaelharder3055
    @michaelharder3055 Год назад +2

    Dallas will be fine until Kyrie finds out that the moon is made of cheese and he must worship it instead of playing ball.

  • @mitsospon7720
    @mitsospon7720 Год назад +5

    People forget or don't know that in Real Madrid Luka used to play big minutes next to a ball dominant player with high usage, Sergio Llull and did great.

    • @athunderfan
      @athunderfan Год назад +2

      its def dont know, media people aren't aware of basketball outside of the nba

  • @terrance_35
    @terrance_35 Год назад +2

    Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving team Mavericks Dallas 🏀🏀🔥🔥👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

  • @Jarhead1407
    @Jarhead1407 Год назад +15

    As a Dallas fan, I'm always super impressed by this channel's videos on the Mavs. Every compliment and criticism spoken was spot on.
    Also, if you would've told me a year ago that TB would be making videos giving love to Josh Green I would've thought you were insane. It's crazy how big of a leap he has taken on both ends of the floor.

    • @ThinkingBasketball
      @ThinkingBasketball  Год назад +3

      I appreciate that!

    • @somedudefromTX
      @somedudefromTX Год назад +1

      It's been awesome to watch Green blossom. He's exactly the player they've needed him to be. Despite all the patience Carlisle had in developing DFS, he never had the same care when it came to Brunson and Josh. Good to see them both succeed after he moved on

  • @guiwhiz
    @guiwhiz Год назад +1

    So they got a 'minor' upgrade on offense and just made one of the bad defenses in the NBA.... worse. Two starters, 1st and 2nd round picks, and eats up some cap space to.... still lose to Denver or Phoenix in the first round IF they make the playoffs? Umm... I still think they would have been a lot better off working with Chicago to get Zach Levine and either Vucevic or Caruso. "We're going to outscore people..." really? The Nuggets? The Suns with KD, CP3, and Booker? The 'new look' Lakers? I just don't see it. The Nuggets in particular will simply DEVOUR rebounds against this Mavs squad.

  • @HenrySomeone
    @HenrySomeone Год назад +2

    I'll tell you how this will work - it won't. Kyrie is leaving this trash team after the season and Doncic will be able to do what he does best - stat-padd to infinity-

  • @danielallyway
    @danielallyway Год назад +1

    You make the best basketball videos in the world. ✅

  • @hanspeter8072
    @hanspeter8072 Год назад +1

    who´s here after they missed the playoffs? xd
    but who would have thought that this experiment would flop as hard as it did?
    I'm looking forward to the offseason and am hoping for the mavs to figure out how to unleash the potential of a luka-kyrie offense

  • @JayTeeGR
    @JayTeeGR Год назад +5

    I hate that when Kyrie has the ball, Luka just stands there frozen, he needs to play off ball much more.
    Also, i'm not sure if Kyrie is the right player to pair with Luka...

    • @blacknetsmed
      @blacknetsmed Год назад +2

      James Harden in Whiteface.

    • @jackieyo6128
      @jackieyo6128 Год назад +1

      Luka has absolutely to be better off ball (even if he needs time, he played off ball very well in Europe but it was long time ago) but Kyrie isn't the player to be paired with Luka, it's 3 years that i say that Luka needs a big defensive center that can play average offense (it's enough) or at least a 3's points offball killer (Curry would be impossible, but even a Klay, which is a better defender too, would be perfect).

    • @AkshayKumar-fj3ks
      @AkshayKumar-fj3ks Год назад +1

      What? He need to learn to play defence and off ball offense.

    • @readmycomment3707
      @readmycomment3707 Год назад

      @@AkshayKumar-fj3ks You need to learn to shutup

  • @benrinehart7776
    @benrinehart7776 Год назад +5

    having Kyrie as a secondary offensive load bearer is a big help, but I think this "outscore" your opponents philosophy wont win a championship. Both Luka and Kyrie have to give up some of their offensive energy, and refocus it on defense. Luka has to find a way to contribute, even if its just better communication. Without that defensive adjustment, all it takes is a close game where the 3s dont drop, and Dallas is out of the playoffs.

  • @BufiniPinoy
    @BufiniPinoy Год назад +2

    Luka also needs to getting back on defense and not trail on D complaining to refs

  • @blerdbuffetpodcast8730
    @blerdbuffetpodcast8730 Год назад +1

    Lol the play-in just started and the mavs missed the playoffs .

  • @rayymfelixo149
    @rayymfelixo149 Год назад +1

    MORE OFFENSE BUT LACKING IN DEFENSE AND REBOUND DOWN THE STRETCH... JUST LIKE LAST 2 GAMES... they SHOULD TRADE SOME PIECES... THEY NEED SOLID PF WHO LOCK DOWN DEFENSE...

  • @Mrjvc163
    @Mrjvc163 Год назад +2

    I feel bad for basketball fans that aren’t subscribed to this channel.

  • @JimBrave-vi9ji
    @JimBrave-vi9ji Год назад +1

    Dwight Powell was WIDE open at 3:20 so the narrator is so wrong there. (just that Powell can't dribble, shoot or make a play) The narrator just goes with status quo and probably thinks guys running to the corners on fast breaks is good.

  • @kennethward4985
    @kennethward4985 Год назад +1

    If Luka can start to play more like Jokic, then he now has Kyrie, almost as good as Jamal Murray. If they are smart this can be a dangerous team.

  • @Davidjohnson-zd3bk
    @Davidjohnson-zd3bk Год назад +1

    Kyrie is a CANCER with any team he plays!!!!!makes NO sense why any team would take him!!! He doesn't even make it a half season without being hurt!!!

  • @stephanierose1
    @stephanierose1 Год назад +3

    I'd be surprised if this team can get past Phoenix or Memphis

  • @jeff5881
    @jeff5881 Год назад +1

    it will never work. When have two ball dominant players on a team won the championship? Yeah they will make the highlight reel but that's about it.

  • @averagevtuberenjoyer2209
    @averagevtuberenjoyer2209 Год назад +2

    I think Irving was a perfect player for mavs offense rn. The only thing they are missing is a good rim protector and I'm really looking forward to watching this team create something special.

  • @alvin081988
    @alvin081988 Год назад +1

    I don't see it working....I think Luka needs a big that is a traditional center.

  • @creatureofrabbit2036
    @creatureofrabbit2036 Год назад +18

    Watching NBA highlights lately just reminding me how big of a problem the league has right now with pushing off. Basically only young players or super obvious ones getting called. It's happening basically every play and it's opening up a ton of shots. As soon as a ball handler gets a half step they are holding back the defender with the off arm and forcing help to come.

    • @Simon_Sez
      @Simon_Sez Год назад +2

      What you described in your last sentence doesn’t seem like pushing off tho… It’s legal to use the off arm to *fend* off the opposing player -- but that’s different from *pushing* off. If they actually *grab* or *push* the defender, then that’s an offensive foul, and I usually see those called. But *fending* off is completely legal and taught in grade school. Putting the defender “in jail” is legal, and a great, effective move.

    • @Simon_Sez
      @Simon_Sez Год назад

      Do you have any examples of the push offs in this video?

    • @jdrmanmusiqking
      @jdrmanmusiqking Год назад +6

      Push offs (especially ones that get fouls called on the defense), defensive 3 seconds, and illegal screens are the biggest reason why scoring is out of hand
      Simply eliminating those 3 will drastically improve the game we dont even need to touch traveling calls. Just the 3 things mentioned above

    • @maartenvz
      @maartenvz Год назад +3

      @@jdrmanmusiqking ah you mean the dynamic shuffle screens/checks :)

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross Год назад +2

      @@jdrmanmusiqking Don't forget all the times players get away with palming and discontinuous dribbles. I guy like Ja Morant is totally unguardable.

  • @BPrimeTimeL
    @BPrimeTimeL Год назад +1

    luka gonna start quoting mein kampf after a couple of months with kyrie

  • @beepeesoup
    @beepeesoup Год назад +2

    So good that they couldn't make the playoffs?

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 Год назад +10

    Great content as always had never heard of green until one of your commenters last video on the mavs it’ll be interesting to see how this pairing works in the playoffs

  • @Hazztech
    @Hazztech Год назад +1

    My first thought was that kyrie is so nuts, the pairing of him, and the even more nuts owner, will be a trainwreck. However, maybe their mutual crazynees with breed empathy.

  • @maxmadlambayan4014
    @maxmadlambayan4014 3 месяца назад +2

    it worked

  • @thomasmuller6395
    @thomasmuller6395 Год назад +1

    Better question is can mavs play defense?

  • @benjaminsymon5165
    @benjaminsymon5165 Год назад +2

    Dallas have to commit to small ball, and for that to work you need Luka to become the best defender he can be. I'm thinking of a Draymond Green type role, where his bbiq and build is maximized and he can offer team defense and an interior presence defending the 4 (closing out games with Kyrie, Green, Bullock and Kleber/Wood at the 5). If that happens, Dallas' historic offense will be enough to carry their mediocre defense to a real playoff run. They won't be able to stop guys like Embiid and Giannis from going off, but their spacing will be literally unstoppable. Spread pick n roll plus other screen actions and handoffs, Bullock in the corner, Kyrie and Green attacking closeouts and Maxi or Wood pick n' poppin, and Luka running the show, it would be Magic.

    • @adamt4776
      @adamt4776 Год назад

      If Don commits to a Draymond like playstyle say goodbye to MJ like offensive plays.

  • @voltz8945
    @voltz8945 Год назад +1

    This is on Luka now. He needs to adjust. Unlike how he did with Porzingus or Brunson.

  • @Hoops_Fan
    @Hoops_Fan Год назад +10

    2:08 - Those were Kyrie's first points as a Maverick. Also, excellent commentary and analysis as always, Ben.

  • @josephlivingston4561
    @josephlivingston4561 Год назад +36

    Honestly they are their most offensively dangerous running a pick and roll with Kyrie and luka, pair that with a 5 wide look and its pretty damn unstoppable

    • @goated3285
      @goated3285 Год назад

      Yep & defense

    • @Stinky_Iraqi3000
      @Stinky_Iraqi3000 Год назад +1

      BS

    • @trebledc
      @trebledc Год назад +1

      Yes Unstoppable if they're efficient. If not? defense stops is what the mavs will be grasping for.

    • @toastedt140
      @toastedt140 Год назад

      I dont see Luka setting a bunch of screens all game and Kyrie cant really do much more than a ghost screen to fuck with defenders.

    • @slimeballmk6656
      @slimeballmk6656 Год назад

      @@trebledcKyrie always efficient idk about luka

  • @spagettifork8916
    @spagettifork8916 Год назад +2

    Luka screening for Kai and making Draymond esque short roll reads while also being a scoring threat would be magical

  • @EJAlwayz
    @EJAlwayz Год назад +1

    I searched for a real breakdown of Luka and Kylie’s play together, it’s strengths and weaknesses couldn’t find one till now. Excellent work sir. Subbed

  • @boris2997
    @boris2997 Год назад +1

    Mavericks should have kept Brunson and Dinwiddie

  • @pinnacletherapper4902
    @pinnacletherapper4902 Год назад +18

    I was at the kings game where Luka returned and it was absolute poetry watching him and kyrie. That being said, I worry about Kyries caring on this team. Obviously it was just one game but you could see how Kyrie didn’t really care to be there. Which to be fair, he’s a new guy in an established locker room but hear me out. He came pretty late after the rest of the team and just kept to himself. During timeouts he was usually outside of the huddle on the far end of the bench. In theory, this offense looks really fun, but I think we need to see how they develop as a squad to really see how it fleshes out.

    • @KanbaruS4n
      @KanbaruS4n Год назад +10

      I read the exact opposite when it comes to practice. Apparently Kyrie came in to practice before everyone else and made a point to introduce himself to everyone. I think there shouldn't be too much reading into where he was standing or sitting during the game. Obviously they have an established way of doing stuff during a game and he won't know how they handle that after a few games. Pretty natural for him to observe first before diving into the huddle and disrupting everything.

    • @jimmyrodriguez5670
      @jimmyrodriguez5670 Год назад +7

      You sound like you let the media influence what you see.

    • @somedudefromTX
      @somedudefromTX Год назад

      There's a reason no one asks you for your opinion

  • @vladtheimpaler7375
    @vladtheimpaler7375 Год назад +6

    What this video is teaching me is that Luka and Kyrie are making killer plays but the rest of the Mavs just can’t shoot 😂

  • @sharifbrown3567
    @sharifbrown3567 Год назад +2

    Is there a reason why Top 10 2022 was never published on RUclips?
    Does anyone know what Ben put for it?

  • @Simon_Sez
    @Simon_Sez Год назад +1

    I always hate when people say Kyrie is a ballhog and doesn’t pass 🤦‍♂️ he’ll definitely get into his iso game, but just halfway thru this video you can already see how willing and able he is to play beautiful, free flowing basketball. And it’s only highlights from a handful of games too 🤷‍♂️ he’s been playing like this for a looooong time

  • @script_haki
    @script_haki Год назад +1

    Turning water into wine 😂

  • @FupaDoncic
    @FupaDoncic Год назад +1

    Green and Hardy are developing great

  • @Quantum_Exia
    @Quantum_Exia Год назад +1

    Great Offense wins you games but not a chip. Hard to see them winning two rounds in the playoffs like this.

  • @mathewdavis2427
    @mathewdavis2427 Год назад +1

    The problem is the team outside of those top two is absolutely horrendous.

  • @danielh6605
    @danielh6605 Год назад +1

    They really should have kept kemba Walker for a backup pg scorer smh in my opinion

  • @Jerrden
    @Jerrden Год назад +1

    As amazing as Luka is, it can be frustrating because he can be even better. He needs to get into better shape, no other way of putting it. He looked a lot leaner at the beginning of the season and it showed on both sides of the ball.

  • @redcloud8444
    @redcloud8444 Год назад +3

    Luka and Kyrie isn't compatible in the same court together. It's crazy but one of them should be handling their own unit. They aren't good together because Luka is best on his own pace, he can play a different tempo but he's not at his best. With Kyrie and Luka together on the court, they lose that speed that Kyrie and the starting guys use to create more opening for the shooters which are all of them basically. To be at their best one of them handles their own unit where they can have their own pace and tempo. Luka isn't Lebron at all because of his lack of speed and athleticism, Lebron can easily match whatever Kyrie's tempo is, they would immediately synchronize together like a metronome in the court.

  • @chrissullivan6572
    @chrissullivan6572 Год назад +1

    I think it can work. They lost some close games, probably just need to iron out some kinks

  • @TheJchip
    @TheJchip Год назад +2

    It’ll be a very interesting experiment

  • @timkaine5098
    @timkaine5098 Год назад +2

    They're gonna struggle against teams with size, I don't see them beating the suns or the nuggets in the playoffs for this reason

    • @goated3285
      @goated3285 Год назад

      Idk the sun lost a lot, they we’ll definitely have a hard time against Denver to

    • @osirisra1476
      @osirisra1476 Год назад +1

      ​@Raider Friday Bench becomes far less important in the playoffs. Also the Suns bench is fine b/w Payne, Lee, Okogie, Bazley, Landale, Biyombo, etc. That's enough spare parts to buy 8-10 minutes when you have two of Paul/Booker/KD/Ayton on the court at all times.

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 Год назад

      They can beat nufgets attack jokic

  • @gotseoul123
    @gotseoul123 Год назад +1

    I'll give it 30-40 games until Kyrie is disgruntled again.

  • @lucwijngaard8413
    @lucwijngaard8413 Год назад +1

    Doncic is just on another level

  • @saturnprince.23
    @saturnprince.23 Год назад +1

    W channel L take

  • @thunderb00m
    @thunderb00m Год назад

    Great offense but there's a reason the saying goes "DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS"

  • @lemyul
    @lemyul Год назад +1

    score 3 give up 4

  • @jayceboi
    @jayceboi Год назад +1

    no it didnt work

  • @onlyfacts3178
    @onlyfacts3178 Год назад

    SOME FANS are really dumb...
    LUKA needs help and instead of help he gets KYRIE.
    DUMB fans----"LUKA needs to change " why?? it was working well before the trade when he was playing..
    ALL DALLAS NEED WAS HELP...

  • @jackthe_tripper2544
    @jackthe_tripper2544 Год назад

    Westley Snipes and Woody Harrison can dunk better than these 2 OVERSHOOTERS

  • @whocares3201
    @whocares3201 Год назад

    Offense wont be a problem. Like at all. But mavs roster is goddamn disgusting right now. How can you even build a team with no playable PF or C outside of Kleber and no rim protection? A roster where guys like McKinley Wright IV, Theo Pinson, Frank Ntilikina, washed up mcgee are getting serious rotation minutes and Dwight fkin Powell is still the startint C in 2023.
    To me this roster construction is borderline criminal. You have the best backcourt in the league. Potentialy best ever. And you pair it with this utter garbage? Just smh

  • @miloradbojanic3049
    @miloradbojanic3049 Год назад

    Ok. Statistics is ...right, maybe, idk and i dg a sheat. But expression of face and that smile! That is pure joy of the game. Nobody smiles like Luka.

  • @Nootasaur
    @Nootasaur Год назад

    The Mavs might be one of the best offences with Luka by himself but how tf does that help them in the playoffs?
    The Mavs getting Kyrie is a massive upgrade, not minor. To say that’s a minor upgrade is like saying Paul George to the Thunder was a minor upgrade (getting Melo ruined that team).
    Like bro, you’re adding one of the most talented offensive players to ever play the game who can play off and on ball to Luka fûcking Doncic, that is insane.
    Not a minor upgrade over Spencer fucking Dinwiddie.

  • @andrewmillman45
    @andrewmillman45 Год назад

    Just wait till fans the media The Mavs players realize KYME has ZERO plans to stay in Dallas the S will hit the fan! Mark Cubans hair will either fall out or he will start losing it .I'm telling u KYME Not staying I would bet big money on this.Dallas will join all the other teams that were damaged by KYME.Actually Boston Cleveland and Hopefully the Nets have done better without him.Ha ha He he

  • @eymaqtpie13
    @eymaqtpie13 Год назад

    JMidd rotations is just svcks lol, C.Wood playing less than 20minutes bruhh worst than Rick Carlisle, imagine your 3rd best player getting benched so hard coz the coach doesnt like him, yall gonna say Powell is better defender than Wood but we all know statistically Wood is better

  • @mervinjumawan6784
    @mervinjumawan6784 Год назад

    Sorry to say Kyrie Irving will not fit with Mavericks and even with other team because he is so individualistic player, Like the player during the 90's Stephon Marbury from Timberwolves to Nets to Knicks no success even in the play-offs when Marbury was replace by Jayson Kidd it was a big change Nets become a Playoff team and fight for championship unfortunately they play the best team in the west during that time. Like Kyrie he is a good player but not a team player. That is what he needs to improve or nothing will happen to his carreer like Marbury and Iverson.

  • @michaelbietsch2864
    @michaelbietsch2864 Год назад

    I think the nuggets would demolish them, offensively, the nuggets can keep up, defensively, the nuggets outclass the mavs by quite a bit

  • @muchtartidakbahagia
    @muchtartidakbahagia Год назад

    I'm praying to Basketball God for Kyrie not going batshit insane for the next 4 months.

  • @LL-iy7bg
    @LL-iy7bg Год назад

    They are perfect toghether and Mavs will play better and better as time pass.
    People making conclusion before they play and after 2 games together.Mybe not this season,but next year with Kyrrie and new 3D players.
    Consider health for both,I beet my house,,wining the

  • @SiG-hx2hb
    @SiG-hx2hb Год назад

    let irving and luka go in the 1stqtr then in the 2nd qtr bench luka and use kyrie, 3rd qtr use luka bench kyrie, 4th use luka in couple of mins and give the ball for kyrie, 4th will the more usage of kyrie's brilliance in offense.... the key is if luka will give way for kyrie

  • @franklomes6828
    @franklomes6828 Год назад

    "Turn water into wine". Bro chill with the Jesus miracles comparison, it's just basketball.

  • @LtBud26
    @LtBud26 Год назад

    When are you gonna make a video about Jaden McDaniels? The best wing defender in the NBA, please don't be like ESPN and only cater to viewership

  • @jdrmanmusiqking
    @jdrmanmusiqking Год назад

    I know people dont like this fact but Kyrie is just a better player than Luka
    Kyrie just got there and the Mavs looks 10x better with him there without Luka. We all know Luka can score at will but dude needs to get the ball out of his hands early and pass the ball
    Seeing Kyrie and Luka on the same team really highlights Luka's flaws. Homeboy needs to get in the gym and get in better shape since he expends so much energy iso'ing on offense. This will give him energy to improve his atrocious defense and off-ball movement (or should I say lack thereof)

  • @redcloud8444
    @redcloud8444 Год назад +5

    I'm afraid to reveal to you that this is no longer Luka's team, Luka apparently hired a guy that perfectly fits Dallas team without him. If he wants Dallas to win all the way, he should take the back seat and let Kyrie lead the way. It was sad and unfortunate because I've been enjoying the Luka show, but he made a gargantuan mistake here, he basically gimped and stunted his own ability and his rise to superstardom by hiring Kyrie. Luka will never be the same again, and it's entirely his own fault, he hired the guy.
    Have you ever heard of instantaneous synergy? That's what happened to Kyrie in Dallas when he debuted without Luka. This team is accidentally configured to make Kyrie fit like a glove and make him look good. The downside is that, that's without Luka. Luka and Kyrie on court doesn't fit and looked awful.

    • @readmycomment3707
      @readmycomment3707 Год назад

      You have no idea what you are talking about. Kyrie has never led a team before himself like Luka has and Lukas a top 3 player, Kyrie isnt. Delusional kid, stick to Twitter.

  • @zainamir997
    @zainamir997 Год назад +1

    The video quality has gone up up up and the commentary is still great as always. great video man!

  • @guillervz
    @guillervz Год назад

    Totally unnecessary the presence of Kyrie in Dallas. I love Kyrie, but they didn't need him there. This just puts extra load on Luka. He has now to adapt to Kyrie in the middle of the season. We'll see how Luka deals with it.

  • @TrillBill
    @TrillBill Год назад

    Two Heliocentric players..what could possibly go wrong?

  • @Markhoca
    @Markhoca Год назад

    Granted he's a ridiculously good player (Luka) but I tended to not watch their games because they were so boring being totally focused around him. Now there might be some fun bball to watch.

  • @tastyneck
    @tastyneck Год назад +5

    Im dumb but I feel like if Draymond a free agent after this season he'd be solid on the Mavs. He'd help with the D, the passing would be insane, and the offense has another option to run through. But, like I said, Im dumb.

    • @thesnipingspider3852
      @thesnipingspider3852 Год назад +1

      The warriors aren’t letting go of their big 3 anytime soon

    • @winter666madness
      @winter666madness Год назад

      And he'd probably smack someone up in practice. You love to see it

    • @tastyneck
      @tastyneck Год назад

      @@thesnipingspider3852 Hence the "if..."

  • @makgeoff
    @makgeoff Год назад

    Kyrie & Luka will be attacked constantly on defense & give up any pts they scored, while their supposed strong offense will stagnant. End of story.

  • @dqsmooth34
    @dqsmooth34 Год назад

    The answer without even looking at the video...NO. it's Kyrie we talking about here.

  • @doksfrommars
    @doksfrommars Год назад

    Luka had KP and Brunson... Look at both of their stats nowadays without Luka... Hype him up all you want, but he is the problem. Until he is ready to play without the ball - this will be a dumpster fire.

  • @youngcaprio5972
    @youngcaprio5972 Год назад

    I think the offensive impact is more than just what's simply them on the court. Kyrie can have an offense much better with Luka off the court than Spencer or Brunson did, and I think you understate that here. In the systems he played before, things were slower, and he was a worse passer I think up until his second year in Boston. They can be a top 10 offense in the league easily with Kyrie on this mavs team with this coaching