The American Revolutionary War in the Mediterranean: Menorca 1781
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One battle of the revolution of which I think few Americans are familiar was the 1781 fight for the Balearic island of Menorca.
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I’m descended from Minorcans who were brought to Florida as indentured servants in the mid 1700s. Their treatment could be an episode in itself.
These are the kind of American stories that should be in our schools.
@@samdetwiler4531 pat frank mentions them in his book, Alas, Babylon
My great grandfather was from Mallorca
Oh I've read about that. There were a bunch of Menorcans and Corsican Greeks right?
Shut up in back! Class is starting… wait a minute. I sit in back!
For those interested, there's a bit more on the very early US forays into the Mediterranean (barbary pirates!!) and further afield in the three volume Best of Enemeis, a graphic novel series by former French diplomat turned historian, Jean-Pierre Filiu and acclaimed French comics creator David B. The main focus is on US interactions with the middle east, but it also includes some of these very early 1700s forays too
Palma de Mallorca was always a great Liberty port. I got a great tattoo at the Cowboy Bar in Magdeluth. Menorca is quieter, but just as fun. I fixed the evaps on a cruiser there once. Then we got stuck there for a week cause the ferry men went on strike.
We made a port call there in '69, but no tattoos for me. Just a lot of San Miguel beer for 12 pesetas a bottle, when we were getting 70p per dollar.
Had a beer there. Made BM3 while there.
Thanks for your service Shipmate. OS1 USN Retired here. Made 2 Med deployments, but no port visit to Palma unfortunately.
With what was said to be over 500 bars, and all the waitstaff completely nude in all of them. Palma was one of the more interesting ports of call that I had to endure.😄
"I got a tattoo there" Maybe it should be "Because don't all good stories involve pirates OR tattoos?"
The USS Nimitz pulled into port in Mallorca when I was attached to air squadron VAQ-138. Beautiful place and beautiful ladies.
Hence.
Farewell and adieu to my dear Spanish ladies, farewell and adieu dear ladies of Spain
For we've been ordered to sail back to Boston and never shall we see thee again.
@@ronaldslater4703 I met a British girl who was there, mallorca on holiday with her friend. We exchanged addresses and wrote back and forth a couple times.
I had nit heard about its ties to the Lousianna Purchase. Very interesting video
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
Wow at 4 min you show an awesome old jar .
Hey, History Guy, this episode reminds me of a book I picked up in Ste. Genevieve, MO called The Battle of St. Louis, the Attack on Cahokia, and the American Revolution in the West by Stephen Kling Jr. While the book focuses on the war in the mid-west, it is really a series of fantastically researched essays including some on the global scale of the war. If you've never heard of it it's well worth a read.
Love your videos
How do you have so much class? Its impressive
Lookin a little rough today HG ! ☺
Attempting some facial hair.
Visited Mallorca while in the Navy, beautiful place.
It's all like trying to keep track of the ongoings of circles of friends
So during the siege, the British were cut off from rum and had to gin and bear it?
Killer idea. Super interesting. Thanks.
YES INDEED all good stories do involve Pirates
Thank you history guy
Good morning History Guy and everyone watching. Made 2 deployments to the Mediterranean; USS Whidbey Island LSD 41 1995 and USS Wasp LHD 1 2002.
That was something I never heard of.
Good day to you, sir 🫡
Fascinating.
The first minorcans arrived in Florida in 1768 when they were recruited for a plantation in New Smyrna named after the plantation owners wifes hometown. In 1777 about 600 menorcans arrived in St Augustine fleeing the failed colony in New Smyrna.
Gin and Pirates , cool
Tell us about the little American ship in Whitehaven again Professor!
By many historians, its considered as the 1st real world war as battles were fought from the Indian Ocean to Europe, Caribbean to North America as well as Europe.
The Seven Years war was more wide ranging.
BRAVO
Fascinating
For a bit of trivia, mayonnaise is named after Mahon.
In the Caribbean we call Blue Jeans "Mahones"
Not to be confused with Minorca, 1756 naval battle between the French and the British.
That story is included in the episode.
technical note: Please turn up the output volume. The sounds drops by 30% compared to other streams. (retired sound guy).
THIS a big problem on a LOT of You Tube content.
Audio levels are all over the place, it's like the wild west, metaphorically speaking. (Broadcast Engineer, who works closely with the sound guys)
@@maximilliancunningham6091 Yes indeed. No mastering so tospeak. Do you have suggested DB for generally good quality. (pure curiosity)
65%.
Unless it's a Led Zeppelin, Boston, or similar music video, then a minimum of 520%.
The American Revolution’s impact stretched far beyond the 13 colonies, and this battle in Menorca is proof of how global the conflict really was!
thx
poor old Admiral Byng.... he failed in his task and suffered the consequences. the Admiralty were happy enough to pension him off ( traditional 18th century practise of giving a commander a knighthood or a lordship and a generous pension ) but there was a huge public outcry. pushed by England's newspaper industry... so Admiralty were coerced into setting up a court-martial.. which condemned Byng. he ended up being shot on the poop deck of his own flagship by his own Marines. he gave the signal to fire himself.. he was no coward, just not a great admiral ; England expects...
2:00 My Great grandfather was from Mallorca
My ex became a teacher of Transcendental Meditation on Majorca in 1972.
"the shores of Tripoli". Have you done that one yet?
Crazy. Whole thing almost comes off like a comedy of errors, a sitcom of the absurd!
I'm glad I'm not the only historian who believes The American Revolution was a world War, in this case World War II
My head is spinning. How complicated can conflicts be?
Thank God for Spain entering the American Revolution! Spain tipped the balance in favor of the War of Independence!
The very first foreign weapons for the American Revolution arrived from Spain!
Diego de Gardoqui sent 300 Spanish muskets and 600 pistols to Marblehead Massachusetts in February 1775!
Spanish aid was there before Rodrigue Hortalez Company, before Lexington and Concord, before the Declaration of Independence and before America's so called first and oldest ally France!
Spain also paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in the military planning which is why the Spanish Ambassador was invited to the Yorktown victory celebration in October of 2023!
Spain protected French possessions in the Caribbean allowing Degrasse to travel to his destination freely without worry and it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown!
Bernie didn't have to do that but he was very generous!
Spain sent weapons to the battle of Saratoga in coordination with the French in 1777!
Spain did so much to help us that their decisive aid gets lost within the French aid unfortunately.
Generosity had nothing to do with it. Spain was giving their biggest foe; the British Navy, a death by a 1000 paper cuts. 😂 It was the same with the French as well. The American Revolution was actually a proxie war between Spainish Kingdom & French Kingdom vs British Kingdom & Prussian Kingdom.
@bepbep7418 True generosity had nothing to do with it but Bernie was a very kind and compassionate person who actually was delighted to help the American Patriots!
Sure, both Spain and France had their own interests and selfish motives for jumping in the war but then so did the American Colonies! They too had their own interests in mind.
And that's okay! Nothing wrong or negative about that. That's how Diplomacy works!
Plus, the Spanish role is a lot of fun! Fun and very inspiring! Nothing fun or inspirational with the French contribution lol!
Spain was also pushing France to invade England...an invasion force was assembled
OLEHHHHHH😊
@jorgecruzseda7551 ORALE CABRONES!!!!
RAZA WAS THERE!!!!
Menorcans invented mayonnaise. French troops tasted it there and giving it the prefix of the name of the town where they tasted it, Mahon, and a French suffix for glaze.
Correct. There is some dispute, but Mahón is the most likely etymology for the word mayonnaise.
A good long long look at the map would have made a big difference. I thought it was near Greece.
Marie Antoinette could have avoided the French Revolution simply by issuing an edict to distribute bread among the poor.
However, she didn’t do that because you can’t have your cake and edict too.
Except she didn't say, "Let them eat cake." That phrase came up around 1750, applied to "a certain noble lady," and was revived during the French Revolution against Marie Antoinette. The comment by Mrs Jim.
@jimbellinger4023 It's a joke.
@@robertjensen1438 I know. But a lot of people still think Marie Antoinette said that. The quote comes from the same 18th C. intellectual climate that claimed that the Medieval Church taught that the earth was flat, and Columbus proved that the world was round. The church did not in fact teach that; but Washington Irving got hold of the story in the early 19th C and when I was in grade school in the 1960s these canards were still being taught as fact.
@@robertjensen1438 wait until you find out about her kid.
Sad thing, there was little bread - 2nd year of drought and famine.
Terrible pun too.
Yes, all good stories involve pirates, one way or another (in the sense that all good stories spread uncontrollably) 😂😂
Wow...
WOW
Do the “Vandels” have anything to do with “Vadalism”?
Yes, the modern term "vandalism" harkens back to the Vandals sack of Rome in 455 AD.
Reputation sticks with you...
Puts me in mind of Garth Brooks' song _Ireland_
They say mother earth is breathing
With each wave that finds the shore
Her soul rises in the evening
For to open twilight's door
Her eyes are the stars in heaven
Watching o'er us all the while
And her heart it is in Ireland
Deep within the Emerald Isle
We are forty against hundreds
In someone else's bloody war
We know not why were fighting
Or what we're dying for
They will storm us in the morning
When the sunlight turns to sky
Death is waiting for its dance now
Fate has sentenced us to die
Ireland I am coming home
I can see your rolling fields of green
And fences made of stone
I am reaching out won't you take my hand
I'm coming home Ireland
Oh the captain he lay bleeding
I can hear him calling me
These men are yours now for the leading
Show them to their destiny
As I look up all around me
I see the ragged tired and torn
I tell them to make ready
'Cause we're not waiting for the morn
Ireland I am coming home
I can see your rolling fields of green
And fences made of stone
I am reaching out won't you take my hand
I'm coming home Ireland
Now the fog is deep and heavy
As we forge the dark and fear
We can hear their horses breathing
As in silence we draw near
There are no words to be spoken
Just a look to say good-bye I draw a breath and night is broken
As I scream our battle cry
Ireland I am coming home
I can see your rolling fields of green
And fences made of stone
I am reaching out won't you take my hand
I'm coming home Ireland
Yes I am home Ireland
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Back in the Saddle Again Naturally
Bovine insanity triumphs Surely Never
Who's on first? Wow that was complicated you think, thank you
Demanding surrender, they sent back, Yaaarghh.
_pirate-speak for _*_"Nuts!"_*
@@HM2SGT I got that reference!
Too many adverts
I like pristine beaches and gin.
Have you covered how George Washington personally started the 7 years war by massacring a French ambassador who was sending a letter to Washington responding to a previous letter Washington sent?
You are overstating it a tad, but yes, I have done an episode. George Washington's Defeat: the Battle of Fort Necessity
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@TheHistoryGuyChannel The sound of the bullets massacring the French delegation in a time of peace was "charming"... probably because GW knew he had lots of $ to make by seizing land and then selling it via his company. And all that land and $ served him well to bribe his way into the position of commander in chief years later!
@ there’s actually no evidence that Washington knew who was there, nor that he started the firing. The claim that Jumonville was there as a diplomat is also dubious. Respectfully, I don’t know where you are getting your information, but you are far embellishing the history. I was a Ranger at Fort Necessity NB.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel "Stark" by Polhemus. Great book btw! Best of the 3 I've read so far Re: Stark. I'll search for the correct footnote...
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel pgs 24-25 in that book. There's 8 relevant footnotes. Freeman's "George Washington", Anderson's "Crucible" and Flexner's "Washington" are all cited.
Yes, he may not have known it was the delegation responding to his prev. letter, but he surrounded and ambushed them in a time of peace without asking any questions; his forces fired on his command, and the French officer Jumonville was murdered and scalped after surrendering. Washington never apologized- he psychotically said it was charming and expected a promotion. The first of Wahington's many epic blunders... but he was richest, so he was promoted over the much more experienced and competent Stark- the true spirit of the Revolution. 🙌
Ah, the primary front of the American Revolutionary War... The Mediterranean.
For which the British sacrificed their old on the Colonies.
Arr pirates
This is the kind of history that American grade schools should teach. Young students would relish tales of swashbuckling adventures on the high seas.
By using Ancestry I have traced a branch of my grandmother's family back to the Jamestowne colony and Virginia before and after both the 7 Years War and the American Revolution. Online records indicate one of my ancestors sailed with Decatur against the Barbary Pirates while another loyalist cousin from a branch that crossed into Ottowa was fighting for the East India Company in Calcutta.
No, not all good stories involve pirates.
Incogni unsubscribed you from Dollar Shave Clu? Looking rough my guy
Just trying out some facial hair
@TheHistoryGuyChannel doing the same at 51.
Looking good, handsome. Nothing wrong with a full beard, my ladies say.
I'm sure your beautiful wife will agree after you grow some long, curly soft, facial accoutrements.
PIRATES !!
41st, 5 February 2025
Hell in the Bible is so bad they can’t make an accurate movie about it. It would be all depressing.
Nobody’s gonna feel sorry for anybody in hell because the memory of them is wiped away Says Isaiah 26:14 ,to all the people that are in heaven, that’s another reason why there’s no tears in Heaven according to the Bible.
Repent your sins for the AntiChrist has been elected president.
You sir, have prospered, from the freedom allowed on line. The USA is under threat from a burgeoning tyranny. It's time sir, for YOU to step up and make a point, of the historical parallels that you well recognize.
History always has a way to repeat itself.
don't drag me into your politics.
@@TheHistoryGuyChannel❤
@TheHistoryGuyChannel what's that quote about all it takes is for good guys to do nothing? I guess you support the bad guys.
Do something on USAid
I’ve always liked your posts. However, to me it strikes me as peculiar that you still report about things like the American role in WW2 and the American revolution, when you in America have a criminal and wannabe dictator as your ‘president’ and a oligarch like Musk mingling in your government affairs. To me it sounds like at the moment Americans need to be more concerned about what going on in your country now then in the past…!
gads but there a billion places to talk about politics on the web. There is still room for history.
here's a guy that should be remembered: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Halford