Androids Would Make You Less Human (But That's Good)
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- If someone asked you “what is a human,” could you answer? What does it mean to be human after all?
Time of Eve (both the movie and the anime) is a story about the human definition, expressed through the doubtful feelings of Rikuo, its main character. An android owner like most youth, he could be considered “android-holic” as he slowly comes to treat his, Sammy, more human due to what he learns at Time of Eve, a cafe where humans and androids are treated the same. Seeing robotic customers there, like Akiko, Rina, or Kotoran, all express feelings which make Rikuo, a human, feel himself, he doubts the value inherent to “being human,” and takes it harshly with little else in life but this definition to give him personal value. However, his time with these customers at Time of Eve leads to Rikuo reconsidering his mindset and the human definition, believing that a more personal answer to “what does it mean to be human?” may be a better life philosophy. After all, does machines becoming man have to lessen our value? Or is the typical mindset exclusionary and harmful? Overall, ToE (the movie or anime) is a short, but thematically deep story, discussing humans, androids, and analyzing the line between man and machine.
A video essay explaining and analyzing the themes of Time of Eve.
0:00 Intro & Background
9:09 Rikuo
12:35 Akiko
17:18 Rina
22:17 Kotoran
28:27 Rikuo P2
35:00 Outro
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I guess it's time to binge another show I've never heard about.
right lol
It's only 6 episodes, so its an easy one at least!
@@ProfessorViral paused the vid halfway, watched it, came back 👍
haha yes, I made sure to watch the show before watching the video.
I have watched this show so many years ago and always remembered it for its incredible OP and "ambience?", it really stuck with me though I never got the urge to re-watch it.
Now you gave me that urge, thank you:)
The "Kotoran" track from the OST is what I wrote the whole video to. It was one of those "shift through the entire ost until you find that song" moments, because it was so perfect for the mood
I read someone on the internet once say “I don’t define or measure my value by a hierarchy” and it the coolest shit I’d ever heard.
I’m like Bruce lee, I’m not a northern American, I’m just a human. Changed the way I approach people all around us when I discovered that.
For sure. When we all have the same basis, our individuality that really makes us can shine a lot better, and lead to more meaningful things, even if it's not as easy an assumption
As someone who's watched a lot of Isaac Arthur, I've long understood that there is no meaningful way to define "human" (though it also helps having been excluded from every definition of "human" I've ever seen in my life)
Honestly, I wasn't aware of who that is until just now, but thats an interesting thing to possibly look into
@@ProfessorViralHis videos are very interesting, though some definitely more than others. He does wear his socioeconomic biases on his sleeve, but they don't come up that much in his work.
@@rhael42 SFIA I love that channel been a follower for years!
@@nineonine9082 hell yeah!
What definitions of human have you been excluded from?
15 years ago... I feel so old now!
Me in the future explaining Psycho Pass when its closer to the setting date than the release date
gotta love Professor Viral giving me a larger umbrella of ideas for my English papers
I got one point above failing in my first high school English class, so if I can help anyone do better than that, I've succeeded haha
I really enjoy your content because anime grew to be an important thing for me during highschool and i kinda got interested in philosophy after school. Started and sadly failed my philosophy major but it is so cool listening to someone who is (or at least seems) way more knowledgeable.
I especially loved your Steins;Gate videos because the setting almost screams for these kind of discussions.
I hope you can keep up and still have fun with your content!
Really, I'm just a novice who learned to speak loudly haha. I'm starting to read more on the origins of these discussions, but it's still mostly a narrative practice for me, which just goes to show how much some creators can really put into their stories! Thank you for the very kind words
we had the pleasure to work on a large a.i development team ( Linguistics
Good episode, Prof. I'd never heard of Time of Eve, and now, your analysis of it has given me... well, a lot to think about, given that I can relate to Rikuo. Anyway, I find your videos both thought-provoking and heartfelt, and I'm glad you made this one.
I've been drawing for as long as I could comprehend and make out the shapes the pen I held in my hand would create when I scribbled it on a couch. I find no inherent grander value my art or making art. This may not be true for others, but for me it's just something I do because I like it. Inherently I don't think humanity has much of any real value to it at all. A part of me finds humanity disgusting in a way, because it's so ever shifting and ephemeral. It feels like humans have spent our entire conscious existence trying to paint a picture on a non-existent canvas.
The existence of AI sort of beat me over the head with that notion, but sort of challenges me in a way that frustrates me. To seek humanity would be to say it's something to seek out and strive for, but it being so replicable by 1s and 0s makes me feel stupid for even reconsidering that idea. It's easier to decide that an AI could never feel and that humans have no value. That it's all just a vapid nothing and we should just do what we want. I don't think this mindset will really change in time. In the end my art is just shapes and colours. I'll keep doing it as long as it feels good.
I think what's really important in the end is for people to believe whatever makes their lives best, assuming the impact is limited to them as well. If we find being human something which motivates us, then we should define it. If not, then that person shouldn't worry about it. As long as we believe what's best for us (and doesn't harm others) I think we'll manage pretty well
@@ProfessorViral Quite true, quite true. I do wonder if enough of us will figure that out or if it'll be sufficient to keep up with the speed of the world as it is. Though I guess in that sense, just being alive is enough for us to find something to keep going.
Love the video! ❤ Keep on Keeping on
Thank you, will do!
I've heard about this show here and there for years, but you're the first person I've seen go this in-depth on what they personally got out of the show. Seems like a good time to finally check it out now.
At 6 episodes, it's well worth it. And, you still have one or two twists I didn't give away here to discover in it!
You deserve the world. Your videos are amazing.
Thank you for such kind words! But, I'm always happy to have just made it this far, it's much more than I'd ever have thought
This was truly fascinating to listen to. Thank you for making this vid 🙏😃
Of course, thank you for spending your time with it!
I liked this a lot! Well done
Thank you!
Nice, another anime added to my list of things to watch.
And it's basically only the length of a movie, so it's an easy watch
Love your content! Keep it up, dude!
Thank you, I'll try my best!
Great video! I first watched Time of Eve back when it originally released and it was/still is one of my favorites. I even went as far as navigating studio rikkas website to order the Japanese blu ray release because I didn't think we would ever get a western one.
The current state of it seems to be odd. The quality I had in streaming it was super poor, with a stretched ratio and only 360p. So, having a good quality copy of this one will likely end up quite rare, not a bad move at all
2:12 ah yes the I’m so old reading is more interesting than me argument
Great vid!
Thank you!
awsome video!
Thanks!
Never thought I'd see a vid on this! Yoshiura, Yasuhiro is one of my top directors/writers! Such gems!
A few other comments mentioned more of their works, so there might be more coverage of them here!
Love the hair style bro 😂😂 you style it well 🤙🤙
If only I styled it haha. I just hope it dries well
Pantheon also goes into a lot of these themes, I highly recommend it.
i watched this so long ago i hardly remember what was going on
Yeeeeees! My buddy and I watched Patema Inverted, and I was so moved by it we looked up the creator. Found this absolute beauty of a show. Short and simple, but with sweet yet bitter notes. This show was so good.
Someone else mentioned that movie as well in the comments, I've added it to the list to consider for later!
There's an anime like this I remember, but I forget the title. It's about an android who is meant to replace either a boyfriend or something for this girl. Like in this anime androids look exactly human, and he acts between android and human. Until the twist is that the girl was the android all along, and she was made to get him out of his depressive state, and he convinced himself he was an android to avoid the pain. It was kind of interesting.
U got to be joking, I just started watching this with a friend last night 😭
Haven't seen the video yet but it's sad that I kinda agree with the title
Hopefully the video will make that feeling into a more hopeful one
I love this show, rewatched it 3-4 times over the years!
A great, short series is so fantastic, because you can do that in just a couple hours
Thank you.
I watched Time of Eve for the first time last year. I thought it was really good, and it actually gave me a lot of hope that AI wouldn’t be evil, and that maybe one day it can even be like us for us to connect with
It's a call I could never make. If I was writing a story about it, I'd like to think that AI being trained to act human by humans would witness our kindness and become like the Androids from Time of Eve, but I feel like the monetary push AI is currently seeing has worse intentions
@@ProfessorViral And that’s a fair argument. For every good influence on AI, there’s a bad one. If AI is subject to human influences, then there will be (using highly generalized terms) good and bad AI. Maybe even good AI that has overcome bad influences, and bad AI that has fallen despite good ones. What I take hope in is that it may not be the apocalyptic future that other sci fi has led us to believe. If you haven’t seen it yet and AI is still on your mind as a philosophic concept, I recommend you give Pluto a watch! Deals with very similar concepts to Time of Eve, and shows how AI can be capable of both good and evil.
There will be AI Art but there will never be an AI Artist. This is the distinguishing factor on why some Artists get paid millions for a simple brush stroke. While AI does it on mass for virtually zero dollars. It's done by them. AI breaks a lot of conventional sentient design and therefore cannot ever be true to real life only an emulation of it. A key driving factor to most Human Design is the ability to plan for the future. Inheritance if you will. What you will give to the next generation, who, when, and why? So with AI there isn't a distinctive lineage to trace or an inheritance it can over to future human beings. It can only satisfy thoughs who already exist but not the ones who have yet to exist. It doesn't create anything outside what it knows. It's a replication but never an original no matter how it tries. Unless this AI can physically give birth it will never be on the same level of any living organism. To them a homogenized personality is perfectly normal to them when to us means there's something terribly wrong with that culture and society. There's also a lot of ethics with making robots look human like for example I could make a replica of anybody then make said replica commit crimes in his name. If I'm a huge wealthy billionaire but leave all my inheritance and company to my "AI Wife" what would happen? To truly be alive means you were naturally made by the universe and not synthetically replicated. It's always fun to think of robots as living but that's only because it appeals to my human emotions not my human sense of logic. It's much easier to think of it as another being than as this artificially constructed mirror emulating human behavior. Otherwise it makes no sense to be so emotionally invested in a robot now does it? Which is why these robots are fictional and not something that's real just strongman of a concept if you ask me.
They also don't bring religion into these topics with AI. Only game I see that understands the implications of what they're doing is Nier funny enough. Humans are almost talked about as divine beings. Their literal creators and so they'll do anything to protect them. I don't see any media understand how important that is for a sentient life. If you were a Robot and you knew who made you are they your Father, Mother, Creator, perhaps your God? Very profound way to be born and why the concept of Artificial Life comes from Religious Stories. It's going into detail about how Life has to have a Designer. But unfortunately most people are very surface level with these concepts. Androids in Nier KNOW they're Androids with feelings. They don't not compare themselves to Humans but still view themselves as Unique because Humans designed them with Purpose. Purpose implying Destiny. All Sci-Fi is ultimately Religious while all Fantasy is a deconstruction of Religion.
The opening quote goes hard in Automata talking about "Wish to Kill God" but 2B would later regret that Wish as she then struggles to fight without purpose. Deeply profound.
If you want a better understanding of the idea of "AI and Inheritance" look at MGS2 and it's messages about memes.
26:43 This moment explicitly doesn't work because he no longer has a family. In Nier Pascals plight was so strong because of the Death of the Robot Children. Her legacy, inheritance, and memories of them hurt because of the idea it was truly their own children. That wasn't his kid so who cares. I'm supposed to somehow sympathize with the robot over the parents? 😂
Time of Eve and Sakasama no Fatema are from same director. I watched them during covid lockdown. 😊
Looked that second one up, I'll keep it in mind for the future!
As someone who does drawing, AI really made me depressed about myself and my own experiences for so long.
But it sort of helped me realize why i started creating and making things in the first place, because i enjoy it, not because it has to be good, not because it has to get a lot of views. Because i love it, and its helped me so much and kept me going for so long.
Im not defending AI art -- its very clear that its very unethical and hurtful to many people -- but i find that its best to not give it the attention, to just keep making your art and creation, because things can coexist, because i can still make things of some kind of value despite it.
Thanks for this video :) sending hugs ＼(^o^)／
My problem with AI never has been with AI itself. Rather the people who control and create it. And if it does ever become like this… well what that means. I wouldn’t wish that cruel fate onto anyone. If it is created in our image it’s subject to our flaws. And the environment we are creating for that is not one that brings out the positives.
corrupted sound files are sad 😭
Punishing Gray Raven.
Enjoy this 2 million word, 300+ hour rabbit hole.
I randomly decided to watch this years ago and thought it was cool. Also, it's Detroit Become Human before Detroit Become Human.
10:27 Hatsune Miku and all the Miku enjoyers say hello
For me, the issue with androids is that they can simply "learn things" in a mere download, whereas we humans need years of practice and hard work. This makes it feel like cheating, as if they have it easier. I fear the moment they gain acceptance, they will dominate humanity, limited only by internet speed.
Of course, I may be biased because I am neurodivergent and envy those with typical brains. My own brain's blueprint impedes my ability to work efficiently, leaving me feeling inadequate. It's disheartening to watch others progress effortlessly while I struggle, with nothing but more hard work as my solution. This effort often goes unrecognized because I'm just not constructed the same way as others. Trying to keep pace with a "normal" human already feels like an unwinnable race; witnessing AI accomplish it in mere seconds makes me want to give up entirely.
Why should I exert so much effort into my craft when the outcome is subpar? I've already abandoned my dreams, knowing my condition prevents me from achieving them. I've chosen to simply survive and find happiness with my husband. But if that too becomes tainted by AI superiority, what purpose would I serve? What value do I possess when everything I do can be done better and faster by other people, or machines?
I feel like I have nothing to offer, yet I must continue to take in order to exist.
With AI, pretty soon everyone will have to ask themselves this question. What it means depends on the meaning other people prescribe to you. For me personally no one ever gave any meaning so there is no point.
"All men are created equal." It is a rather intoxicating notion. One that has led to a cascading of belittling of the self. To believe there is no being nor entity higher than oneself is sure the zenith of all vanities, and yet all is vanity. Once all are just and truly made to be equal, whether by granting away their very own humanity or adversely by receiving that which they are not entitled to. We will cease to live. I say that in the truest, most noble sense of the word. As if we are not guaranteed our own soul to discern beautiful virtue from maligned depravity, then we can well and assuredly say we ourselves are wicked.
There is so many wrong things you just said but I can't really construct a good argument against it becuz I suck at writing argument but let me just said one thing if "all men are created equal" is bad to you becuz then no one is special which is equal to being dead then the opposite that you think is "good" is also will be no different too
@rafiuddinariffhan5470 I would rather be the dimest shining light destined to flicker and fade. Yet not before spontaneously combusting! shining brighter than the God rays of sunlight gently reflecting off of the ocean surface. As a last act of divine opposition againt the darkest never-ending expanse of nothingness poised to envelope all that is noble and pure, and to ultimately smother the beautiful virtues of life out completely. Than to conversely be that very same cold malevolent entity masquerading as "unity", "equality", "singularity" or whatever other vogue death cult mantra appeals to you. Only in order to lull higher beings into lowering themselves to the deepest depths of depravity.
Enga
The auto translate to English has decided this is "none"
HAHAHAHA KIDS CANT READ I HAVE HEARD LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.. and apparently today’s teachers are tired of having all their students to be the one kid that can’t read worth a crap…
thats why you should use iPhones
just kidding, I hate apple