True, Riley and Spo have lost the preverbal locker room with this debacle. It is actually the second time that a great player quits on Riley/Spo, LeBron being the first. Going to be 12 years since the Heat won the Championship, which is what really matters. Now would be a good time to go in a different direction instead of being loyal because you like them.
@@RidleyScottOwnsFailedDictators Jimmy went to the finals twice, and made costly mistakes twice. If he would've won 1 of those titles, we'd be sitting in a whole different situation right now worthy of a player getting 53 million dollars. Otherwise it's laughable to think he's worth that...
@@charlesmarkm Anyone can be a great coach when the failures are never their fault. Last year's underachievement not Spo's fault, 2011 Finals not Spo's fault, 2014 Finals not Spo's fault, 2015-2019 nothing burger seasons not Spo's fault, LeBron walking out of course not Spo's fault. It is never Spo's fault. Oh, but winning only two championships with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Miller, Ray Allen, etc.....Spo is a genius coach. -Miami media and Heat fans. No wonder the Heat are stuck, mediocrity like Spo is praised and mistaken for greatness.
If Riley can’t find a deal I hope he sits out for the rest of the season…Riley is the only exec in the NBA that has the cache to stand up to players ..We ain’t going to take peanuts just cause Jimmy wants to leave …
Man it's crazy how quick a fan base turns on a player once an organization gives the marching order. There is no such thing as a player who requests a trade that fans respect.
LOL, Jimmy is full of it. He thought he could trick Pat into trading him or paying him, but he quickly realized that Pat won’t be played. Now his true self is coming out. The Heat should suspend him until they can get a great trade option, or keep him suspended until next year when he can opt out.
I love you Tobin, but your wrong on this Jimmy could have been more professional. Miami has made mistakes before, but this is not one he should have opted out and moved on. He was paid for what he's brought, and business wise isnt worth the money. Honestly he been getting overpaid from the jump. It went this long because him, and his agent was playing cryptic games when they were talking to shams the entire time.
@@Mandown1985M Oh, so giving a massive extension to a player who won’t play more than 60 games a season is somehow the master plan to fix everything? Got it, makes total sense.
I'm a JIMMY BUTLER fan I'm a bigger PAT RILEY fan, and it's all about the players that are willingly available, GO HEAT 🔥.. thank you JIMMY for the great playoff moments.. but your time in MIAMI has ran it's course, The HEAT will be just fine without you
Being a Pat Riley fan is crazy! I’ll give him the 06 championship but other than that what has he done for the Heat? The big 3 was all Wade, Bron, and Bosh. They put that together. And then Pat let Dwade walk which was insane! Wade should’ve never put on another jersey. He should’ve got the Kobe treatment. Pat has failed to bring in help for Jimmy! Jimmy has overachieved in his time here. He literally put on some of the best playoff performances ever to get us to 2 finals. Pat has been sleep at the wheel. It’s time for the old man to hang it up.
@kendallwhitfield5504 Respectfully, I disagree with you, but I understand your point about lately.... The team is not willing to keep paying luxury taxes for players that are often injured and unavailable, there are no guarantees in sports, RILEY is keeping the old school aspect of what's best for the team.... we'll be just fine moving forward,
Continuing to pay Duncan Robinson and Tyler Herro who have given nothing to the Miami Heat’s playoff runs but refuse to pay Caleb Martin and Max Strus. That doesn’t make sense
@@MeiA-h9r they offered Martin more than he ended up with. Him and his agent misjudged his market. That ain’t on the Heat. Strus was what it was. Were already stuck with Duncan’s contract - but they should have let him walk. That’s still not paying your players and you could add him to this list instead of Strus.
Let him walk and get zero in return cus they always let a guys value tank before they do something. Did you not hear Tobin say , PAT KNEW since the summer, that Jimmy wasnt happy to only pretend now that it came out of nowhere. This is the type of shit you hear about with a badly run franchise. Pat is in his emotions and got his pride before the well being of this team. Sure you dont wanna pay a guy whose 35 BUT, all they do is sell you on “ Heat culture” once a heat always a heat, we wanna hang jimmys jersey in the rafters. Stop it. They cant have it both ways . At the end of the day the players will come and go but the drama that happens when they leave, there is ALWAYS the one constant of Pat Riley and the front office
Pat literally signed Jimmy to a max contract extension in 2021 and knew he would be signing up for the declining years of Jimmy's career and fully aware of his past injury issues. Not to mention, Jimmy would most certainly ask for another extension, and Pat knew he wouldn't want to give him max money again. Given Jimmy's 3-team prior history of acting out when he doesn't get the contact he wants, Pat should've traded Jimmy before this season so this mess wouldn't happen to the team this season
For sure Riley made mistakes…But by all accounts including Butler and his team, Butler was going to play hard and Riley was opened to extending for another year…This is purely Butler acting like a bich..
Given the knowledge of who Jimmy is, why did Pat double triple down and say “ nah we arent trading him” didnt do it in the offseason when his value was high. Instead Jimmys value has tanked and Pat gets nothing in return for him. For me Pat is the bigger moron here playing a whose dick is bigger contest when you dont have draft capital, and if you would have just moved him right after the season ended we could have gotten a legit haul for him. But instead Pat does what hes always does. Lose guys for next to nothing or give up picks to bandaid the roster together. Its bad from Jimmy but we knew how he was going to behave if you didnt give him an extra year. Which is all he was asking for. Instead they paid bam. Hows bam been lately??? Is he really worth that contract??? Gotta blame this on Pat for being naive for being so short sighted and delusional to believe that Jimmy was going to be a good soldier and playout the year cus the fo believes they can actually win a chip. They are fckn insane
He got suspended because of what he said in the press conference. Weak ass Miami front office. All they are doing is showing Bam & Tyler how they will treat them in the future
@@upkjv845 just opt out? And leave that money on the table? Jimmy knows it’s a business. This is a lesson to other players. Bleed these teams for everything. You’re just a number on the back of a Jersey.
Both parties are in the wrong. And it doesn’t help the front office has made numerous failed transactions in the bulter saga limited the resources they have to get the right piece with him.
How can anyone be on Jimmy’s side on this? Spo, Pat and this team has grinded and did things the right way. Home grown talent a lot of system players. Yes, we need a scorer.but Jimmy can’t keep doing this.
Jimmy is on Jimmy side. The Heat are on the organization side. Theres no wrong answer. If Pat doesnt want to give him the extension, then Jimmy knows they are not commited to him and wants a trade
Jimmy can keep doing this as shown by this being the 3rd time if you decided not to pay him and expected anything different you’re the dumb one (not you specifically but the front office)
Thats like asking your boss to give you another year on your contract and a small bonus, given that the year prior 2023, you were the ONLY top producer of the company, you set records you carried the financial burden for the company and got them to a level, that without you, they would have missed their sales targets and peoples paychecks would have been cut short………… your boss then responds………… you need to work harder and then well talk about it at the end of the year….. but also your boss decides to put that message on X AND he goes Live on RUclips to announce it to the rest of the company, that you may or may not get what you are asking for because you seem to coast a bit too much……………….. How would you feel??
I been saying since the off season if your not paying Jimmy Trade him to avoid this situation it’s pretty obvious that this would happen so why the hell didn’t they trade him sooner is the real question unless they were planning on letting him walk for nothing but even then you have to know star players make a stink if they don’t get that extension
Please, they paid this guy twice. It’s a business, plain and simple. Time to move on was this summer. He dogged it last season. No reason for this nonsense. Pat should’ve made a deal this summer. It was a good run with Jimmy.
All time favorite heat players 10. Haslem 9. Lenard 8. Mashburn 7. Dragon 6. C Butler 5. Chalmers (yeah I said it) 4. Hardaway 3. Mourning 2. J Butler (fan of his without the heat) 1. Wade
@@tygod312 my favorite players and not “best” players. never owned any of their jerseys. I do love brian grant though, what a season that was and was a shame we blew up that young core to rent shaq.
2023 was a fun year, sad to have to wait this long to realize that was our last window of opportunity with Jimmy. Won't talk down on him or the front office for their decisions, I enjoyed watching him play, at the end of the day it's just a sport I watch to kill some time. As it should be for everyone. Good luck to him wherever he may go, and may it open new opportunities for the Heat to actually get a ring in the next few years
I mean seriously, he screwed Bron, did D Wade so bad and he’s the HEAT. Then no KD, no Dame, no Kyrie either. We will be alright eventually but damn I’m going to miss HIMMY
The nba would've made sure Lebron won chips. His hype was from the beginning. The only true nba chip in the past 15 yrs were the bucks and warriors win
😂😂😂😂 you a damn lie that Boston Celtics ring definitely was not a manufactured super team winning a championship everything we had was not super team material it's not our fault that all the other NBA teams discarded kristaps porzingis like he was garbage and we seen the real talent he was and picked him up for the cheap and it's also not our fault that teams just can't figure out how to stop us from jacking up 70 three-pointers a gamee@hilliarddillepree7717
Tobin....Please replay the postgame interview by Ira Winderman with Jimmy, and Kyle Lowry. When Ira asked Jimmy if the Heat were finally "coalescing" as a team. Jimmy'response to Ira about using big words was classic hilarious.
Jimmy has taken this team to the finals twice in two years, plus consistent playoff appearances. Three front office did him no justice after the finals vs the nuggets letting Vincent and Strus go.
Appreciate the moments he had but we have given him two max contracts and brought his buddy Lowry. He never lasted this long on a team. We did him right. He doesn’t fit this team and we need to move on. It takes two teams to agree to a trade. Trailblazers weren’t caving to Dame and traded him where they wanted. Let’s appreciate our young core and now we can gain some draft assets
22 will be in the rafters one day. It’ll be after Pat leaves the organization, but there will be ceremony. We will look back on these years fondly, as much as it hurts in the moment
Jimmy is the reason i become a Miami Heat fan! I'll still love both long after! It just hurts knowing this whole situation is ending as ugly as it isb😭💔
Very disappointing from Jimmy. Was my favorite player. Not anymore. Him wanting out isn’t the issue. I think he needed to go and Miami need a full fresh rebuild. But this is a poor way to go about things.
There is no scenario in which you'd be okay with him requesting a trade. This is the dichotomy of fans. The "fandom" is conditional for everyone besides the actual team name.
@LamarBentley There is no scenario in which you will acknowledge that you know nothing about the poster and rather than just accept the opinion on said poster you assert your own ignorance and bias into the conversation.
@@hipNrip Your stance itself is ridiculous. Jimmy Butler has remained the same since he left Chicago. He was like this in Minnesota and Philly. He was your favorite player because he won you a lot of games. He requested a trade and now he is no longer your favorite player. You sound like a child.
@@hipNrip I'd probably agree with you. I think most people believe themselves to be more capable than they actually are. Sort of a fake it til you make it thing. That doesn't make me wrong about the Jimmy situation.
keven love got less 10M a year,where as Jimmy get 48M a yr. still not satesfied in reality they are almost thesame but love has a ring in profesion,while butler has nothing to offer,yes the got a playoff but where is the ring?
Pat is getting old we need a replacement for him how can you suspended the best player on the team something is not right hopefully they can find someone close to Jimmy.
😂😂😂😂 meanwhile need I remind you Boston has a ring LMAO and you Miami fans still want to say that there's a legit rivalry between us man stop it but hey I got to give you props for seeing the writing on the wall
teams probably in the back of their minds breathed a collective sigh of relief knowing they wouldn't have to potentially deal with a Playoff Jimmy last year. When he gets in that mode it's hard to stop
Man just stopped they were not the best team last year last year the best team was the Boston Celtics the year before that they were not the best team the best team was tied between the Boston Celtics and the Denver nuggets so your whole statement is just wrong I get your Miami heat fan but stop putting a false narrative out there
If Heat would've extended him, a lot of fans wouldn't have agreed. Heat would be tied up essentially for next 3 years. Lets not forget how much they paid Lowry. This was coming from last summer.
Im okay with him having a problem with Pat, fine. Pat could’ve and should’ve done more. But throwing Coach Spo under the bus talking about “role” and all these things is where I am taken aback. Like alright, lets keep it what it is, its all money. We all saw his effort and him trying to gaslight to say his effort was there is such a slap to the face to me at least. And I love Jimmy
Because that would make the Heat look bad like they gave up on him. With this move instead, it makes Jimmy look like the villain, which honestly he is. He gave up on the team, lies after lies, false claims about winning a championship in Miami. Long time ago Jimmy said he would never wear a Miami Heat jersey. Dude lost all credibility. He's not a real leader.
Bradley Beal is a much better shooter scorer and 3pt shooter. Beal and Herro can both make alot of 3s and we can make a run. Riley aint folding. Herro Pg Beal Sg Jaquez Sf Bam Pf Ware C
Jimmy Butler Era: Jae crowder, IGUODALA,PJ Tucker, Markieff Morris, Kyle Lowry , Victor Oladipo , Kevin Love , Thomas Bryant , Patty Mills, Terry Rozier 😂😂😂😂 Pat Riley needs to go I feel bad for Erik Spoelstra … imagine if he had Talent.
Boston is celebratin this harder then there fake chip 😢 #fuckBoston Dammit tobes your pat question snowballed into a blizzard lol Sorry just lashin out tobes 😢 Jimmy will forever be a legend and if u a true Heat fan and don’t appreciate his run u ain’t really a fan straight up.. faults on both ends front office and Jimmy but just thought the end would go smoother regardless Heat legend 4ever 22 in rafter but excited bout next chapter lets go Heat
@@davidriedy5977man y'all say Miami lives rent-free in US Boston fans heads truth is Miami fans can't keep Boston out the motherfuking mouth for real and so who is it really that lives rent-free and whose head is it the Miami fans that live rent-free in our head need I remind you we are the defending champions and again where about the one another one we've reached a level that you Miami heat fans haven't seen in almost two decades
Tobs sorry to hear your son won't get to see Jimmy in a heat Jersey! We were planning to visit Miami (from Australia) to finally see Jimmy play next season... Looks like no dice :(
Dame, Kd and, Beal are all solid players but I would have been pissed trading Tyler for anyone. Sorry not sorry but the kid is fun to watch. And tbh the all play the same amount of defense
I don't blame Jimmy, LeBron walked out on Spo when he was the best player on the planet by miles, so this in not the first time Spo can't max out a star.
Jimmy is 35. End of his career is on the horizon. Jimmy wanted an extension. Heat said “no”. Jimmy showed attitude and wasn’t playing hard then he asked for a trade. Heat suspended him. End of story.
I'm all for players getting as much money as possible and not taking discounts from teams-they should do what’s best for themselves and their families. After all, teams will always do what’s best for the organization and often don’t care about a player’s future or their family’s well-being. That said, a player should honor their contract and play until it’s up. Getting paid millions but choosing not to play just because you want to be traded or are unhappy isn’t right.
Honestly to be Devil's Advocate we could give him an extension with a slight raise but nothing super crazy honestly if that's what he's expecting and if he does get traded with the attitude he showed call it Petty he should expect a very heat friendly trade like Hornets LA Clippers 2 first round picks Murray and Zion Peter Pelicans
@ if that was the case, then players like Bam would get suspended as well for speaking out on how the offense. They didn’t suspend Lebron nor did they want him off the team after trying to get Spo traded. Those fights happen daily. It’s the nature of real competition. Just ask UD and Spo themselves. They’ve already spoken on it
Jimmy Butler to Spurs for Young Talent and Picks : *Trade Proposal*: Jimmy Butler to the Spurs in exchange for Keldon Johnson, Devin vassell , and a future first-round pick. *Benefits to Miami* This trade allows Miami to acquire younger talent in Keldon Johnson, who has shown promise as a scorer and defender. The future first-round pick could be valuable for rebuilding or adding more talent down the line
He should definitely get his number retired. I don’t want to take sides but after looking at everything, this falls on Pat 100%. Pat failed Jimmy and the organization with Dame, the keep your mouth shut comment as well. Wherever Jimmy goes, I will always be a fan. He was the man in Miami since D Wade. This is so fucking depressing.
But yo Jimmy brought miami twice to the finals n heat never brought another top player come on mann I'm with Jimmy on this one the team got to the finals cause of Jimmy not Herro not bam not spo. Yall know that. Yall missed top players wanting to come no trade done come on heat ain't better this year neither I see it we see it I hope so the math n mathin 💯 bam ain't a scorer herro soso not a game changer player , ? So where's the upgrade. Dude brought yall to the finals n no upgrades that's delusional 🤷🏾♂️
Am i missing something here? Portland wanted bam and a bunch of picks plus our young guys and DID NOT want tyler herro, besides the fact that their gm basically admitted he didnt want to give dame what he wanted and would make a trade to the heat as impossible as he could out of spite, can someone please explain to me how pat messed that up?
After what Pat said at the press conference. Trust me, if you speak like that about me, im at your door. But Pat does owe him a phone call because Jimmy is your investment and also conversations about the money situation. Because if you think ima work for free without a talk about my raise, you have another thing coming. But Pat seen this coming and should've handle this situation better. If you not trading him in the off season, then pay him period so its no excuses
Tobin the front office honestly believed they were close to winning a chip. Thats why they didnt move Jimmy. So to me thats even more egregious, because players come and go but this FO is the one constant in all these contracts ending horribly.
Weird organization did retaliation in the workplace place by suspending Jimmy. He has an obligation to talk to the media and he did and you suspended him for it. Special place in hell for you Pat
Yehey he deserve it! Sit his ass out till June! You cannot bend Pat & Mickey!!! Lazy & Greedy player!!! What a joy that he's out! Go Heat let's move on..
He should have never pushed the wrong button but MiA should have got him help but he should handle himself better that way we could get more value for the trade now might not get nothing for cause no team wants a headache.
I blame Ira. That mainstream media snake. Jimmy didnt say anything before ira asked him question after question. Also i would ride this season out, win the championship, and let him walk if he wants to
Goodbye Jimmy 💔
Hate to see him go bro never going to forget his 2023 playoff run
absolutely
When I said Jimmy played like crap on Riley night, just to hurt Riley, people thought I was tripping. Nope
True, Riley and Spo have lost the preverbal locker room with this debacle. It is actually the second time that a great player quits on Riley/Spo, LeBron being the first. Going to be 12 years since the Heat won the Championship, which is what really matters. Now would be a good time to go in a different direction instead of being loyal because you like them.
@@RidleyScottOwnsFailedDictatorslost the locker room.. 😮.. So you think the whole team is under performing to spite Riley?
@@RidleyScottOwnsFailedDictators Jimmy went to the finals twice, and made costly mistakes twice. If he would've won 1 of those titles, we'd be sitting in a whole different situation right now worthy of a player getting 53 million dollars. Otherwise it's laughable to think he's worth that...
@@charlesmarkm Anyone can be a great coach when the failures are never their fault. Last year's underachievement not Spo's fault, 2011 Finals not Spo's fault, 2014 Finals not Spo's fault, 2015-2019 nothing burger seasons not Spo's fault, LeBron walking out of course not Spo's fault. It is never Spo's fault. Oh, but winning only two championships with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Miller, Ray Allen, etc.....Spo is a genius coach. -Miami media and Heat fans. No wonder the Heat are stuck, mediocrity like Spo is praised and mistaken for greatness.
What you think is the cost of an elite star player in the league@@charlesmarkm
poor jimmy! only getting paid 49 million dollars and missing 1/3 of the season! he’s one of the reasons the nba is in decline.
If Riley can’t find a deal I hope he sits out for the rest of the season…Riley is the only exec in the NBA that has the cache to stand up to players ..We ain’t going to take peanuts just cause Jimmy wants to leave …
And that guy said money is not important for him, just lie after lie
Correct man!@@AlainNavasDrama
@Showtrust3 very very True!
Man it's crazy how quick a fan base turns on a player once an organization gives the marching order. There is no such thing as a player who requests a trade that fans respect.
LOL, Jimmy is full of it. He thought he could trick Pat into trading him or paying him, but he quickly realized that Pat won’t be played. Now his true self is coming out. The Heat should suspend him until they can get a great trade option, or keep him suspended until next year when he can opt out.
Jimmy is playing everyone. He is not a serious leader.
I love you Tobin, but your wrong on this Jimmy could have been more professional. Miami has made mistakes before, but this is not one he should have opted out and moved on. He was paid for what he's brought, and business wise isnt worth the money. Honestly he been getting overpaid from the jump. It went this long because him, and his agent was playing cryptic games when they were talking to shams the entire time.
So your plan for Jimmy, acting like a toddler is to overpay him and kill all flexibility for the team for the next four years. Wonderful plan.
Nobody said to over pay him but we’re not gonna get back a lot for him I highly doubt we do
@@shahrosebhatti9122. What jimmy wants is overpaying him.
Lol oh but we pay bam 166 for 3 years and he's soft like cottonelle tissue wtf we paying bam like he can carry us to a championship
@@Mandown1985M well at least bam balls. Jimmy plays childish games. It’s now 4 stops and 4 temper tantrums from our hero jimmy.
@@Mandown1985M Oh, so giving a massive extension to a player who won’t play more than 60 games a season is somehow the master plan to fix everything? Got it, makes total sense.
Tobin you saying the right things. Front office messed up big time again.
It is business.
I'm a JIMMY BUTLER fan
I'm a bigger PAT RILEY fan, and it's all about the players that are willingly available, GO HEAT 🔥..
thank you JIMMY for the great playoff moments..
but your time in MIAMI has ran it's course,
The HEAT will be just fine without you
No they won’t
@@stockconstellations1013 You must not know about Spo
No they won't, lol
Being a Pat Riley fan is crazy! I’ll give him the 06 championship but other than that what has he done for the Heat? The big 3 was all Wade, Bron, and Bosh. They put that together. And then Pat let Dwade walk which was insane! Wade should’ve never put on another jersey. He should’ve got the Kobe treatment. Pat has failed to bring in help for Jimmy! Jimmy has overachieved in his time here. He literally put on some of the best playoff performances ever to get us to 2 finals. Pat has been sleep at the wheel. It’s time for the old man to hang it up.
@kendallwhitfield5504
Respectfully, I disagree with you, but I understand your point about lately....
The team is not willing to keep paying luxury taxes for players that are often injured and unavailable, there are no guarantees in sports,
RILEY is keeping the old school aspect of what's best for the team....
we'll be just fine moving forward,
pay him at 35 that doesn't make sense
Continuing to pay Duncan Robinson and Tyler Herro who have given nothing to the Miami Heat’s playoff runs but refuse to pay Caleb Martin and Max Strus. That doesn’t make sense
@@MeiA-h9r they offered Martin more than he ended up with. Him and his agent misjudged his market. That ain’t on the Heat. Strus was what it was. Were already stuck with Duncan’s contract - but they should have let him walk. That’s still not paying your players and you could add him to this list instead of Strus.
So trade him so that someone else can
What doesn't make sense is you commenting and knowing nothing @@MeiA-h9r
Let him walk and get zero in return cus they always let a guys value tank before they do something. Did you not hear Tobin say , PAT KNEW since the summer, that Jimmy wasnt happy to only pretend now that it came out of nowhere. This is the type of shit you hear about with a badly run franchise. Pat is in his emotions and got his pride before the well being of this team. Sure you dont wanna pay a guy whose 35 BUT, all they do is sell you on “ Heat culture” once a heat always a heat, we wanna hang jimmys jersey in the rafters. Stop it. They cant have it both ways . At the end of the day the players will come and go but the drama that happens when they leave, there is ALWAYS the one constant of Pat Riley and the front office
Pat literally signed Jimmy to a max contract extension in 2021 and knew he would be signing up for the declining years of Jimmy's career and fully aware of his past injury issues. Not to mention, Jimmy would most certainly ask for another extension, and Pat knew he wouldn't want to give him max money again.
Given Jimmy's 3-team prior history of acting out when he doesn't get the contact he wants, Pat should've traded Jimmy before this season so this mess wouldn't happen to the team this season
For sure Riley made mistakes…But by all accounts including Butler and his team, Butler was going to play hard and Riley was opened to extending for another year…This is purely Butler acting like a bich..
Jimmy never fit the culture to me.
Makes sense. But anyone available who is willing to take his contract?
Given the knowledge of who Jimmy is, why did Pat double triple down and say “ nah we arent trading him” didnt do it in the offseason when his value was high. Instead Jimmys value has tanked and Pat gets nothing in return for him. For me Pat is the bigger moron here playing a whose dick is bigger contest when you dont have draft capital, and if you would have just moved him right after the season ended we could have gotten a legit haul for him. But instead Pat does what hes always does. Lose guys for next to nothing or give up picks to bandaid the roster together. Its bad from Jimmy but we knew how he was going to behave if you didnt give him an extra year. Which is all he was asking for. Instead they paid bam. Hows bam been lately??? Is he really worth that contract??? Gotta blame this on Pat for being naive for being so short sighted and delusional to believe that Jimmy was going to be a good soldier and playout the year cus the fo believes they can actually win a chip. They are fckn insane
@@TyroneEvans-p6iwhat culture, is all marketing.
This is not the way it should end. Jimmy deserve better
He is the one who literally did it, he could have been more professional. Just opt out and move on...
Bro he called out the Heat organization live in the press conference 😡
He got suspended because of what he said in the press conference. Weak ass Miami front office.
All they are doing is showing Bam & Tyler how they will treat them in the future
@@upkjv845 just opt out? And leave that money on the table? Jimmy knows it’s a business. This is a lesson to other players. Bleed these teams for everything. You’re just a number on the back of a Jersey.
Both parties are in the wrong. And it doesn’t help the front office has made numerous failed transactions in the bulter saga limited the resources they have to get the right piece with him.
We as fans get way too emotional. It's just about money.
Player on the decline wants to be paid MAX dollars. Front office does not.
The End.
He will be lucky to get a 3 year 60 million deal. With the new nba cap system, that is all he will get.
If they weren’t going to give him his money they should have traded him last year. They shot themselves in the foot
Shot themselves how... By insisting a player live up to their end of the contract they signed?
From homeless to 48millions a year still not satesfied what he want?,he believe he is a legend inhis own mouthpiece
He earned it, stop hating
@@stockconstellations1013 Nobody earns that much money, way too much money for one person.
Man so it’s Tobins fault?
How can anyone be on Jimmy’s side on this? Spo, Pat and this team has grinded and did things the right way. Home grown talent a lot of system players. Yes, we need a scorer.but Jimmy can’t keep doing this.
Jimmy is on Jimmy side. The Heat are on the organization side. Theres no wrong answer. If Pat doesnt want to give him the extension, then Jimmy knows they are not commited to him and wants a trade
Well said.
Jimmy can keep doing this as shown by this being the 3rd time if you decided not to pay him and expected anything different you’re the dumb one (not you specifically but the front office)
FO fumbled big time
@@jahnnlopez9957Jimmy's already making a ton of money now. How much money does 1 man need? Greedy.
Riles and the Heat messed up. Not just this. Players around the league talk. If they did it to Shaq, Lebron, Wade,Jimmy who won’t be shafted?
But Shaq and Wade was clearly on the downside when they let them go. And Lebron was the one who wanted to leave even with the money
The biggest thing I can't understand is why he didn't just play the year out the Heat would have worked something out with him.
Thats like asking your boss to give you another year on your contract and a small bonus, given that the year prior 2023, you were the ONLY top producer of the company, you set records you carried the financial burden for the company and got them to a level, that without you, they would have missed their sales targets and peoples paychecks would have been cut short………… your boss then responds………… you need to work harder and then well talk about it at the end of the year….. but also your boss decides to put that message on X AND he goes Live on RUclips to announce it to the rest of the company, that you may or may not get what you are asking for because you seem to coast a bit too much………………..
How would you feel??
@@razielthagreat is that you Jimmy? Smh
I been saying since the off season if your not paying Jimmy Trade him to avoid this situation it’s pretty obvious that this would happen so why the hell didn’t they trade him sooner is the real question unless they were planning on letting him walk for nothing but even then you have to know star players make a stink if they don’t get that extension
Damn man, I wish we got him a ring
Nah! I wish Jimmy got himself a ring after fumbling 2-3 NBA Finals. Denver Nuggets had Jimmy Butler on lockdown 🔒
@@MCLottotvyeah obviously they were a way better team dummy
@@MCLottotv the ankle helped with that in my opinion. Jimmy for sure does better if Josh Hart doesn't plow into his ankle
Yoooo! Hit that like button and subscribe! Let’s get Tobes over 40k! Also, kick rocks Jimmy.
Not on this take
Love listening to your analysis Tobin! Subscribed!!
Let’s go Heat!! 🔥🔥
We need to move Rozier as well
Please, they paid this guy twice. It’s a business, plain and simple. Time to move on was this summer. He dogged it last season. No reason for this nonsense. Pat should’ve made a deal this summer. It was a good run with Jimmy.
All time favorite heat players
10. Haslem
9. Lenard
8. Mashburn
7. Dragon
6. C Butler
5. Chalmers (yeah I said it)
4. Hardaway
3. Mourning
2. J Butler (fan of his without the heat)
1. Wade
WHERE IS BRON AT SIR??!!?
LeBron James? Chris Bosh? Shaquille? Eddie Jones? Glenn Rice? Steve Smith? Brian Grant? Shawn Marion? Lamar Odem?
That sure is a weird way to spell "Michael Beasley" up at #4.
@@tygod312 my favorite players and not “best” players. never owned any of their jerseys. I do love brian grant though, what a season that was and was a shame we blew up that young core to rent shaq.
@@emilymesch7537lol 😊😅
2023 was a fun year, sad to have to wait this long to realize that was our last window of opportunity with Jimmy. Won't talk down on him or the front office for their decisions, I enjoyed watching him play, at the end of the day it's just a sport I watch to kill some time. As it should be for everyone. Good luck to him wherever he may go, and may it open new opportunities for the Heat to actually get a ring in the next few years
2023 was legendary. This is all on the Heat. Jimmy should have been traded in the offseason.
I mean seriously, he screwed Bron, did D Wade so bad and he’s the HEAT. Then no KD, no Dame, no Kyrie either. We will be alright eventually but damn I’m going to miss HIMMY
lol D Wade is a Heat lifer
The Miami Heat is the reason LeBron is the champion he is today
The nba would've made sure Lebron won chips. His hype was from the beginning. The only true nba chip in the past 15 yrs were the bucks and warriors win
All other chips were manufactured by teams creating super teams
😂😂😂😂 you a damn lie that Boston Celtics ring definitely was not a manufactured super team winning a championship everything we had was not super team material it's not our fault that all the other NBA teams discarded kristaps porzingis like he was garbage and we seen the real talent he was and picked him up for the cheap and it's also not our fault that teams just can't figure out how to stop us from jacking up 70 three-pointers a gamee@hilliarddillepree7717
Let’s face it Pat knew what we didn’t want to accept he was not worth an extension .
Tobin....Please replay the postgame interview by Ira Winderman with Jimmy, and Kyle Lowry. When Ira asked Jimmy if the Heat were finally "coalescing" as a team. Jimmy'response to Ira about using big words was classic hilarious.
Whoever is on Jimmys side on this are extreme casuals
What if you think both sides suck
@@dontmindme4197exactly they both wacc. Riley for makin no moves and jimmy wanting all that money
Jimmy has taken this team to the finals twice in two years, plus consistent playoff appearances. Three front office did him no justice after the finals vs the nuggets letting Vincent and Strus go.
Appreciate the moments he had but we have given him two max contracts and brought his buddy Lowry. He never lasted this long on a team. We did him right. He doesn’t fit this team and we need to move on.
It takes two teams to agree to a trade. Trailblazers weren’t caving to Dame and traded him where they wanted.
Let’s appreciate our young core and now we can gain some draft assets
22 will be in the rafters one day. It’ll be after Pat leaves the organization, but there will be ceremony. We will look back on these years fondly, as much as it hurts in the moment
I am not if that happens with how both parties feel.
Pat Riley retired Shaq 's jersey after he fought him on his way out .
Jimmy is the reason i become a Miami Heat fan! I'll still love both long after! It just hurts knowing this whole situation is ending as ugly as it isb😭💔
Me too
Same
We're packed with heat fans everywhere. Don't you hear the chants in all the arenas so you three fake fans can follow Jimmy up out of here
I'll take a pack of gum for Jimmy at this point. I'm so sick of athletes crying like they make minimum wage.
Very disappointing from Jimmy. Was my favorite player. Not anymore. Him wanting out isn’t the issue. I think he needed to go and Miami need a full fresh rebuild. But this is a poor way to go about things.
There is no scenario in which you'd be okay with him requesting a trade. This is the dichotomy of fans. The "fandom" is conditional for everyone besides the actual team name.
@LamarBentley There is no scenario in which you will acknowledge that you know nothing about the poster and rather than just accept the opinion on said poster you assert your own ignorance and bias into the conversation.
@@hipNrip Your stance itself is ridiculous. Jimmy Butler has remained the same since he left Chicago. He was like this in Minnesota and Philly. He was your favorite player because he won you a lot of games. He requested a trade and now he is no longer your favorite player. You sound like a child.
@LamarBentley and you being condescending doesn't make you immature ? Brother, you're not as smart as you think you are.
@@hipNrip I'd probably agree with you. I think most people believe themselves to be more capable than they actually are. Sort of a fake it til you make it thing. That doesn't make me wrong about the Jimmy situation.
You can't sign him under this new deal.For what he wants and he's not gonna get it in the open market plain and simple.
keven love got less 10M a year,where as Jimmy get 48M a yr. still not satesfied in reality they are almost thesame but love has a ring in profesion,while butler has nothing to offer,yes the got a playoff but where is the ring?
Send Jimmy a plane ticket back to Philly
Pat is getting old we need a replacement for him how can you suspended the best player on the team something is not right hopefully they can find someone close to Jimmy.
The best player on the team who fumbled 2 - 3 NBA Finals?
Where was the heat before jimmy came? Let me know. @@MCLottotv
@@MCLottotvstill got to the finals a feat you will never reach in life
Something happened behind closed doors
12 seasons since the last miami heat championship. Before you know it’s gonna be 2 decades
😂😂😂😂 meanwhile need I remind you Boston has a ring LMAO and you Miami fans still want to say that there's a legit rivalry between us man stop it but hey I got to give you props for seeing the writing on the wall
It's Sour Grapes now, but Jimmy Buckets and the Heat were the best team in the East for four years.
No
teams probably in the back of their minds breathed a collective sigh of relief knowing they wouldn't have to potentially deal with a Playoff Jimmy last year. When he gets in that mode it's hard to stop
Man just stopped they were not the best team last year last year the best team was the Boston Celtics the year before that they were not the best team the best team was tied between the Boston Celtics and the Denver nuggets so your whole statement is just wrong I get your Miami heat fan but stop putting a false narrative out there
If Heat would've extended him, a lot of fans wouldn't have agreed. Heat would be tied up essentially for next 3 years. Lets not forget how much they paid Lowry. This was coming from last summer.
Im okay with him having a problem with Pat, fine. Pat could’ve and should’ve done more. But throwing Coach Spo under the bus talking about “role” and all these things is where I am taken aback. Like alright, lets keep it what it is, its all money. We all saw his effort and him trying to gaslight to say his effort was there is such a slap to the face to me at least. And I love Jimmy
I feel let down by the Heat and Jimmy with how they handled these things
Nah! How about Jimmy not fumbling those NBA Finals? Denver Nuggets had Jimmy Butler on lockdown 🔒
@@MCLottotvof course he on lock when he was the only threat on that team
If he doesn't want to be there anymore and you're trying to punish him for that fact, why the hell didn't you just trade him?? Makes no sense
Because that would make the Heat look bad like they gave up on him. With this move instead, it makes Jimmy look like the villain, which honestly he is. He gave up on the team, lies after lies, false claims about winning a championship in Miami. Long time ago Jimmy said he would never wear a Miami Heat jersey. Dude lost all credibility. He's not a real leader.
Bradley Beal is a much better shooter scorer and 3pt shooter. Beal and Herro can both make alot of 3s and we can make a run. Riley aint folding. Herro Pg Beal Sg Jaquez Sf Bam Pf Ware C
@@luisbenito9228 delusional
Jimmy Butler Era: Jae crowder, IGUODALA,PJ Tucker, Markieff Morris, Kyle Lowry , Victor Oladipo , Kevin Love , Thomas Bryant , Patty Mills, Terry Rozier 😂😂😂😂
Pat Riley needs to go
I feel bad for Erik Spoelstra … imagine if he had Talent.
Jimmy Butler wanted Kyle Lowry if you really knew what you were talking about
@@KevondrickBaileyso who did PAT get ??
Jimmy Part Time Butler 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
“Im not happy here” - Jimmy “I want to retire in Miami” Butler
Boston is celebratin this harder then there fake chip 😢 #fuckBoston
Dammit tobes your pat question snowballed into a blizzard lol
Sorry just lashin out tobes 😢 Jimmy will forever be a legend and if u a true Heat fan and don’t appreciate his run u ain’t really a fan straight up.. faults on both ends front office and Jimmy but just thought the end would go smoother regardless Heat legend 4ever 22 in rafter but excited bout next chapter lets go Heat
Rent Free
It's kind of hilarious how you can point to Tobin's question as the thing that started this 😂
@@jimmyjay689 I'd say the same thing about you given that you seem to be on this page a lot
@@davidriedy5977man y'all say Miami lives rent-free in US Boston fans heads truth is Miami fans can't keep Boston out the motherfuking mouth for real and so who is it really that lives rent-free and whose head is it the Miami fans that live rent-free in our head need I remind you we are the defending champions and again where about the one another one we've reached a level that you Miami heat fans haven't seen in almost two decades
Hypothetically, who would have been available last summer, if the Heat would have traded Butler Butler at that time?
Tobs sorry to hear your son won't get to see Jimmy in a heat Jersey! We were planning to visit Miami (from Australia) to finally see Jimmy play next season... Looks like no dice :(
second time the Miami Heat front office ruin a relationship with one of their best players in franchise history. infuriating.
Dame, Kd and, Beal are all solid players but I would have been pissed trading Tyler for anyone. Sorry not sorry but the kid is fun to watch. And tbh the all play the same amount of defense
Its overdue, we shouldve traded him in the offseason
No young teams will bring in Jimmy. Any contenders will want to give you junk for him.
Jimmy is washed, time to move on.
did Tyler Herro improving his game, send Butler into a tailspin ?
can't get a supermax if you're the 3rd best player
I don't blame Jimmy, LeBron walked out on Spo when he was the best player on the planet by miles, so this in not the first time Spo can't max out a star.
Who are you putting at 1 and 2. Please do not say Bam, lmao.
@@RidleyScottOwnsFailedDictatorsnot spos fault lebron is soft
Jimmy is 35. End of his career is on the horizon. Jimmy wanted an extension. Heat said “no”. Jimmy showed attitude and wasn’t playing hard then he asked for a trade. Heat suspended him. End of story.
Its time
I'm all for players getting as much money as possible and not taking discounts from teams-they should do what’s best for themselves and their families. After all, teams will always do what’s best for the organization and often don’t care about a player’s future or their family’s well-being. That said, a player should honor their contract and play until it’s up. Getting paid millions but choosing not to play just because you want to be traded or are unhappy isn’t right.
I hope us Heat fans are ready for the second coming of mediocrity.
whats mediocre is Jimmy playing half a season
We've already been mediocre for the past 2 years.
We thought JB will be at Heat until the very end. Well money talks, his behavious changes.
your the best tobes
Honestly to be Devil's Advocate we could give him an extension with a slight raise but nothing super crazy honestly if that's what he's expecting and if he does get traded with the attitude he showed call it Petty he should expect a very heat friendly trade like Hornets LA Clippers 2 first round picks Murray and Zion Peter Pelicans
Its going to be difficult to trade Jimmy during the season unless they are willing to take on a contract or contracts they dont want.
It will literally be my 1st heat game vs blazers on the 11th in Portland ( I live in seattle) and now Jimmy won't even be playing man this sucks
My respect with Jimmy decreases after the fight with Haslem and Coach Spo 3 years ago. . .
Then you don’t know what Heat do if you think this isn’t the norm on the team 🤦🏽♂️
@@SDotwarrior the organization's norm is always going to back up coach spo. You fight Spo, you fight the entire organization.
@ if that was the case, then players like Bam would get suspended as well for speaking out on how the offense. They didn’t suspend Lebron nor did they want him off the team after trying to get Spo traded.
Those fights happen daily. It’s the nature of real competition. Just ask UD and Spo themselves. They’ve already spoken on it
There’s no ego bigger than Pat we saw it with bron, then Wade, and now Jimmy
This is why they paid UD to stick around.
I don't think ud would of took butler's side after he thre spo under the bus .
@juliawhitehall I meant UD kept him in check.
@ryansproviero If he need ud to keep him in check that's another problem .
Damn, I was taking someone to the game tonight to see Jimmy.
Jimmy Butler to Spurs for Young Talent and Picks :
*Trade Proposal*: Jimmy Butler to the Spurs in exchange for Keldon Johnson, Devin vassell , and a future first-round pick.
*Benefits to Miami* This trade allows Miami to acquire younger talent in Keldon Johnson, who has shown promise as a scorer and defender. The future first-round pick could be valuable for rebuilding or adding more talent down the line
You can’t suspend a player for asking for a trade
He should definitely get his number retired. I don’t want to take sides but after looking at everything, this falls on Pat 100%. Pat failed Jimmy and the organization with Dame, the keep your mouth shut comment as well. Wherever Jimmy goes, I will always be a fan. He was the man in Miami since D Wade. This is so fucking depressing.
Dame went scorched with with the blazers and the told him f u.
Dirty business. He did a lot with role players.. he was never given a legitimate star to help him. Just the truth.
People need to stop going to heat games. Pat is destroying the culture he pays Bam and didn't expect to play Jemmy.The Man is crazy!
Good riddance! Dont let the door hit you in the butt!
But yo Jimmy brought miami twice to the finals n heat never brought another top player come on mann I'm with Jimmy on this one the team got to the finals cause of Jimmy not Herro not bam not spo. Yall know that. Yall missed top players wanting to come no trade done come on heat ain't better this year neither I see it we see it I hope so the math n mathin 💯 bam ain't a scorer herro soso not a game changer player , ? So where's the upgrade. Dude brought yall to the finals n no upgrades that's delusional 🤷🏾♂️
Am i missing something here? Portland wanted bam and a bunch of picks plus our young guys and DID NOT want tyler herro, besides the fact that their gm basically admitted he didnt want to give dame what he wanted and would make a trade to the heat as impossible as he could out of spite, can someone please explain to me how pat messed that up?
He's turned into a locker room cancer. Good luck to whoever gets him next with that
After what Pat said at the press conference. Trust me, if you speak like that about me, im at your door. But Pat does owe him a phone call because Jimmy is your investment and also conversations about the money situation. Because if you think ima work for free without a talk about my raise, you have another thing coming. But Pat seen this coming and should've handle this situation better. If you not trading him in the off season, then pay him period so its no excuses
Pat Failed on KD, Donovan Mitchell, Dame, Beal None of yall wanted Kyrie because yall fell for the fake media narrative.
@@frenzytv3162 Kyrie thinks the earth is flat. Dallas can keep that weirdo.
Tobin the front office honestly believed they were close to winning a chip. Thats why they didnt move Jimmy. So to me thats even more egregious, because players come and go but this FO is the one constant in all these contracts ending horribly.
Iam a Celtics fan and he was a assassin on the c’s back a few seasons ago… this bad for heat ppl
I just don’t understand how anyone is surprised by all of this when Jimmy has done this with every team lol
Weird organization did retaliation in the workplace place by suspending Jimmy. He has an obligation to talk to the media and he did and you suspended him for it. Special place in hell for you Pat
Yehey he deserve it! Sit his ass out till June! You cannot bend Pat & Mickey!!! Lazy & Greedy player!!! What a joy that he's out! Go Heat let's move on..
Somehow Pat has messed it up with every star player we have had.
tobin forced to go live for this lmao
We needed to move on anyway. He's no longer worth 50-60 mil. We need younger assets.
He should have never pushed the wrong button but MiA should have got him help but he should handle himself better that way we could get more value for the trade now might not get nothing for cause no team wants a headache.
Uncle Tobs! Do you think Herro & Bam can lead us!?
Miami Heat was the Miami Heat before we got Jimmy.
@@MCLottotvMiami was nothing without Wade and would’ve been nothing without Jimmy
There’s absolutely no way Jimmy thought he was gonna get 50 mil again even when he goes to another team he’s not
Tobin. The NBA suspended Thompson and Rozier, not their teams. Totally different scenarios.
I think there will be multiple teams, I think a team like the grizzlies would be perfect for jimmy
I blame Ira. That mainstream media snake. Jimmy didnt say anything before ira asked him question after question.
Also i would ride this season out, win the championship, and let him walk if he wants to
Where’s the bottle 🍾
What the hell is wrong with jimmy?
That's Pat for you Jimmy!Nyahahaha Long live Pat Riley 😊