When I first heard about this, I thought it'd be something ridiculous like smugglers with light sabers or some shit. Thankfully not and it'll make more sense and also be reasonable selection, always wanted a sniper bounty hunter ever since I saw that one cutscene in the main story. Now once combat slyles comes tomorrow, I can finally be that dream build I always wanted and make a main bounty hunter. Instead of just my sith marauder being the only main I like.
Yh i also find it really cool with the alignment with the force. It makes a lot more sense than a jedi just starting instantly as dark side. You can tell they actually put thought and care into this and didn't want to make it stupid.
Yeah instead it's jedi legitimately on the imperial fleet along with troopers and vise versa takes away from what the game used to be and actually was.
i agree with you but i would have no problem with them being able to use a Virbosword or techstaff and i know of some jedi in the lore that did use blasters
@@maxrander0101 That's kind of what I thought it would end up being. Honestly kind of wish we had a LS or Vibrosword and pistol class. It's something i've wanted since beta. :/ game's been out for a long time and we haven't gotten any new classes.
I’m going with a Sniper/Smuggler combo. I want the stealth and pistol of the smuggler, but I love the long range capabilities of the Sniper. Plus, I can skip unwanted mobs
They should make that for Force Users was a little Different, originally you would be locked for only The Chosen Light or Dark Side with Jedi or Sith, after Chapter 3 where was supose to Unlock that, if your Character was High Enough in light or Dark Side Then It would Unlock the oposite Side for them, If not, like a Jedi who remained Light Side until Chapter 3, then you would be able to choose only Light Side Combat Styles, but if you Chosen Dark Side until that point, then you would have a Second Combat style as a Dark Side User, but remained with your original Light Side, since you were a Jedi, The Same for Sith, that Way Both would be able to Have Both sides but not so much immersion Breaking, since your Character would only use the opposite Força Power after having his Progression, and being "Corrupted/Cleansed" and now can Choose The other way Like Star Killer, begun like a Sith, then you can make him become a Jedi until The End, but he Still uses The Dark Side Powers... They Could make that If You are a Sith with High Light Side your Lightinings would be more Blue, and if you are more Dark Side they become more Purple, showing that you know The Dark Side Power but Have light Side in you, since The Force dont know The Difference in Dark or Light, it only manifest It self
But all I really wanted was to be able to use a Inquisitor, using Double Blade Staff Lightsaber but using Sorcerer Lightining Skills... That would make me feel more like a Sorcerer, using a Staff, That would be Awesome
Well, I always thought that the pelting your opponent with pebbles looked a bit underwhelming, so not gonna lie, I'm definitely going sorc on my next consular :p
@Sonic Mobian One idea I had for roleplay would be, on my inquisitor to have one double bladed style with the retribution exposed double lightsaber, and the 2nd could be a marauder style with 2 retribution exposed single blade lightsabers. So basically connecting/disconnecting "the same" lightsaber
So far it doesn't even work on new characters, the change combat style quest just bugs out for my new characters, doesn't let me leave the instance the quest takes place in, and I have to delete the character, because it becomes unsalvageable
Considering I enjoy the ability to sneak past enemies, I'm going to take Shadow, Assassin, Scoundrel and Operative as my go-to secondary or primary combat style on any character. Hey, just thought about something. Using two combat styles that have the exact same weapon (for example, Gunslinger and Mercenary both having dual pistols), they'd switch up their style without having to change their weapons and wouldn't look strange like someone putting away their assault cannon only to pull out a tiny little blaster pistol.
Why did people EVER thought they'll get an ability to mix & match skills/use other weapons? I thought even back when it was first announced it was pretty clear, you're just switching classes, that's it, nothing extra.
Honestly they should add mixing/matching abilities or special abilites for certain combat class combos. Other games have done this type of thing and its really fun and adds more unique playstyles. The problem is now is that everyone is going to roll a stealth class now
@@Cookiesrfood not all games work with it. We COULD cut the amount of disciplines & abilities, thus making it easier to balance & then start giving people ability to mix & match, but it's gonna be a nightmare.
@@fenixmaker They are good, if you want to play another class without leveling said class OR if you hate VA (I lot of people hate Male Jedi Consular, so they gonna make Jedi Knight Shadows).
Every character I make will have at least one of their combat styles be one of the appropriate stealth ones just for the ability to sneak pass enemies when I don't feel like fighting (which is becoming more often as of late). More often than not I just want to get to the actual story mission areas and not fight through hordes of enemies just to get there.
I want to play the game, not have to worry about min/maxing combat styles to enjoy the story. I'm sure some people will feel differently because they can't have their "dark" Jedi use Force lightning, 6 lightsabers, and a Spewie on everyone. 😆
Thank you so much for this. I've played this since it's launch and every once in awhile I'll take a few months off and have to figure out all the new changes. This just saved me so much time since this time coming back I had no clue what was going on. This is one of the cooler changes they have done to expand on that RP side and that I've missed since SWG.
What is the use even....its just dual spec, if i wanne play another spec i pick a alt, if u could have force jump as a stealth Assassin i would be happy... This combat style adds nothing
Sad times, if we has been able to make a duel wielding sith Assassin i would have come back to the game for a bit. To me honestly i dont see the big deal about it all. Glad lots of people are excited about. As a founder when it first came out i dont think SWtor ever got the credit it deserved.
Same here man, I've mained a sith assassin since launch, I would love to be a sith assassin with duel wield light sabers, not sure why its not a thing. for this reason I dont really care about the new combat styles
Yeah I thought force user and tech users would at least be able to use all of the perspective weapons. I also play as an assassin tank since I started and was excited to dual or even single wield as I tried out some dps and healing styles for the first time. Ah well, this feels like something that should have already been available as just a quality of life update in a way.
@@loganronin5383 I understand that if assassins could dual wield, they would have to change up the attack animations, but considering how old the game is, that should have been done by now. fingers crossed that i'll eventually be a stealthy assassin with 2 light sabers
im an old player returning, i was so stoked for the changes, till i saw the achievement lockout, because i enjoyed light side choices and played mostly before the whole (select alignment = passive generation) meaning most characters are light side but my favourite combat style is sorcerer so now i have to commit to hours and hours of grind to play the update i was previously excited for. edit: to play the way i was excited for* i havent completed 3 of the light side stories because i disliked the combat styles, so i was excited to get them done without having to deal with the light side classes
EDIT: OK! ... After I post this I tried a few more times and now it does it properly.. Must've just been me messing it up somehow >.>' ... Nevermind this then! :D Didn't wanna remove the initial message. @Swtorista --> I just tried making a new toon --> swapping between the two combat styles doesn't seem to remember the Ability Location on Ability Bar. Hope it gets fixed // is supposed to work! :-p gonna be a hassle to rearrange all the abilities every time you wanna swap.
I am living the dream as a Shadow Knight. Shadow was my fav class because of stealth, but the Knight story is the most enjoyable for me pub side. So lets goooo baby!!
Programmers: We ripped the "classes" out of the plot lines. It broke a ton of things but we can fix some of it by next year. Pretty sure the UI is perma-borked, but we managed to get dual specs mostly working. Maybe. We hope. Marketing and Advertising: Combine the new combat styles with any class (story) you want to experience! BOLD new user interface! Choose an alternate combat style for all your characters! (Joe, edit this before release with actual relevant details) Accounting: We need more revenue for other projects, gate everything you can behind a subscription model and don't even think about touching the cash cow. Ahem sorry, cartel market. No we can't hire more people. Players: IM'MA GONNA BE A JEDISORCERERNINJADRAGON WITH DUAL PISTOLSABERCANNONS! GONNA BE SO LIT! Feedback and Customer Service: What in the name of.....no no, calm down. Remember your training, just delete it all, as usual. Joe: Best career change ever.✌
This made me laugh thanks. One strange note... they really didn't pump the cartel market this expansion, very few new items were sold! Poor accounting.
feel like its a huge missed opportunity to not allow cross skills from different classes. doesn't have to be anything we want, could just be specific ones ya know? kinda like ff14 back in the day. feelssadman :(
Overall this sounds pretty great, I just don’t understand the purpose of making you exit phase to swap classes (and specs?), IMO it defeats the purpose of it, it’s just as fast to pull up a legacy bay, throw gear in, and swap to another toon
At first I couldn't even change unless in a Cantina! Then I realized in the Legacy panel- you can get quick respec. Still can't do it in a phase, but you can do it elsewhere
Probably because everyone would just switch to a stealth class and run by the entire phase to the boss then switch back to their main class. This was a bad idea from the start. No reason to have a second class. No reason.
I decided keep my Jedi Knight with Guardian Defence as my primary combat style but I went with Sage Seer as my secondary combat style, that way I can maintain my tank playstyle and have some minor healing skills to give my character more of a Paladin feel
I understand why they limit force styles to force characters, but a jedi Knight who is also a scoundrel would be awesome. It would be very Luke Skywalker, or even like the Kenobi show.
I didn't see my question and I haven't been able to find it, so here goes: does your combat style restrict the type of armor you're able to wear? Example: My Powertech Bounty Hunter wears heavy armor. If I switch her combat style to Scoundrel, am I now only capable of wearing medium armor until I switch back?
It is still a little disappointing we can't change mid-combat. I would have liked for my assassin to switch to single blade and back during fights. lol I would even use the matching hits to pretend you're just turning it on/off.
this actually answers a lot of my questions, and sadly i have to say im disappointed, the combat styles add nothing new to the game, sure it changes your combat moves, but what is the point in that since the classes have there own specific flavor to it, as an example, bounty hunter class people choose it for rockets, fire and jetpacks, why would you want to change that out when you chose bounty hunter specifically for that. All this new update does is allow players the ability to be tank dps and healer, instead of being stuck in dps dps dps, or dps tank etc... and allowing the player to only need one character to have high level gear on, thats fine and all. But the fact that people are excited for playing the story (which stops mattering once you enter knights of the fallen empire) while changing the way that fight, makes no sense. I would much prefer if they allowed us to use different weapons when we multiclass in a way DnD works, where when you multiclass, you gain the passives as well, such as armor proficiency and weapon proficiency. my point is, if you really want players to play the way they want, this isnt the way to go, i want to be boba fett, yet im stuck playing as jango fett with dual pistols, or some random bounty hunter with a pistol that uses a flame thrower, but if i could change that pistol to a rifle, boom im boba fett. Also dont give the excuse that it would be too hard for developers to give weapons to other classes because plenty of other games do it easily by just using the same move in weapons, I.E. a strong sword a attack does a spin in WoW while the rogue with a dagger does the same thing. If a sith warrior does a choke with his left hand, and a sith inquistor shoots a quick bolt with his left hand, the animation didnt really change, in fact its the same. the only thing different are the FX.
I whole heartedly agree. I really thought maybe I would be able to use a Double Bladed lightsaber on my Jedi Guardian..but i guess it just won’t be happening..oh well
They never said we'd be able to play exactly how we want with this expansion. What they said was we'd get more options to play closer to how we want than the game started with. Now, people that play as a Bounty Hunter don't have to be stuck cosplaying as Boba OR Jango Fett. They can bounty hunt with a sniper, and be one of the other BH characters from the Star Wars universe. What you want is just a giant pool of powers to pick from, which isn't what they said they were doing or ever promised they'd do.
Hi I have a question, sorry if its been already answered. Say I star a jedi knight with light side guardian+sage combat styles, and I want him to fall to the dark side during the story content. Will I be able to switch to the mirror styles (jugg+sorc) when I get to dark V or something?
Hi SWTORISTA. Happy Valentine’s Day to you! I was wondering how do you unlock the force legacy for the force users so that you can use whatever force powers you want on you force character? I hope I got this question correct that it makes sense. Thank you
This is a really cool feature, but the thing I'm most stoked about is not needing to make two of each class so that I can play every advanced class. Now I can just make a single Jedi Knight and have both the Jedi Guardian and the Jedi Sentinel advanced classes on one character. So you now only need 8 characters total to play every class in the game, which you were going to have to do anyways if you wanted to get Legendary.
So, if you’ve finished ANY 3rd chapter, you can get a second class for any toon, or is it only for a specific character that has finished the 3rd chapter? Basically, if I’ve finished the 3rd chapter on my Bounty Hunter, I’ll be able to create an operative with a second class? Or only the Bounty Hunter that I used?
New player here. Made my first character yesterday. Don't the story classes have their own abilities? I started playing as a Scoundrel Smuggler, but also want to try Tactics Vanguard as my combat style. Wouldn't I be able to use some of the Smuggler abilities not tied to the advanced classes *in addition* to the Vanguard stuff? Or is it just that the only thing the choice of story class changes is the story you play through? I dunno, I sort of got the impression when this got first announced that you could mix your base class abilities in with advanced class abilities from an entirely different class, creating your character's unique play style? *Basically* like a hybrid class?
I have a question about two combat styles. For example, I have two combat styles, Sorcerer and Shadow. After completing the heroics will I receive rewards (crates with gear) for style which was chosen at the end of heroic or I can choose the crate for sorcerer or shadow?
okay, my only thing when it comes to the tech combat styles, Is it really worth it to do for example a sniper/gunslinger, or vanguard/powertech when those combat styles do the exact same thing, just with slightly different animations? It's like Bloodsport and Peacemaker being on the suicide squad, why do I need 2? I understand the cosmetic desire but from a gameplay standpoint it doesn't make a whole lotta sense, this plagues my mind when I try to pick second combat styles while still wanting to create a good aesthetic for my chars, for example I am happy with my trooper with Merc/Vanguard even though I just effectively changed the weapon and animations of the Commando, my point is maybe the devs should make some additions and/or changes to how the combat styles behave to make them feel more unique in their utility.
hey swtorista what sub class would fit better a Mandalorian bountyhunter with a amban rifle? the vanguard style or sniper? i want to do damage mostly and I don't like the imperial agent fighting style, way too much healing and it doesn't feel like a Mandalorian sadly. any recommendation that fits better a Mandalorian bounty hunter?
Say I create a Trooper Origin with the Sniper Combat Style. Trooper armor is all heavy, but Sniper wears medium, so does that restrict me to Smuggler sets? Does armor take on the appearance of Trooper equivalents?
So let me get this straight: as a bounty hunter I can switch to a commando style with an assault cannon? Or operative with a sniper rifle? On top of that will you need a correct armor set to accompany you every time you switch? Juggernaut Heavy Armor going to a sorc spec would remove the armor on your character right?
Okay, so what is the ACTUAL purpose of combat styles ? As I see it, all it is, is like 2 characters combined in one. So when I play my Jug, and want to play Sorc instead, then instead of logging out, and logging in to my Sorc character, I just switch combat style and BAM i'm Sorc. Is there ANY other "Benefit" ?
My only issue thus far is class specific quest rewards, like the Sith Warblade for the Warrior, not adapting to your chosen combat style (say if you picked Assassin you don't get a double-warblade), and how cutscenes with weapon animations will react depending on what you have equipped at the time.
How about.... if I pick a secondary combat style for an exsisting character, and I realise "wait, no I don't want this one!", can I somehow swap to a different one? For a fee I would assume in that case... I have a sniper, and I want to pick a secondary that also feels "secret agent"-y, but I also want to use a normal pistol.... So I'm going back and forth and can't decide on what I want, so if I'd change my mind after choosing one, it'd be a relief to know that it's not set in stone :O
Not sure if this has been asked. If you unlock the Dark V or Light V achievement using Cartel Coins, does that still count? (asking for a friend - really :p )
So this was awesome and answered most questions very in-depth. Something I'm left confused about is the gear itself. I'm going to use a non-personal example to make my point more clearly: If I'm playing a Commando now, but I switch to Sniper or the other Operative "combat styles" then can he still wear his Commando Armor/gear for aesthetics with the proper Operative weapon equipped (which the weapon part was answered excellently) like the Sniper Rifle. OR will he be forced to wear the Operative looking gear instead? My actual example is actually more subtle as I'm wanting to make my Bounty Hunter keep his Mando looking armor but wield a rifle instead of pistols and obviously I get two choices for that, either Commando to keep his fighting style similar or Operative if I want to go that route. But in either case, even Commando, I'm not wanting to wear the Clone Trooper looking gear, I prefer my Mandalorian stuff. Thank you for all your answers and making these videos!
Now that you can pick your story separate from you class (aka before if you wanted to play a Sage, you HAD to do the consular story) I'm curious what the least/most picked stories are
wait so a if i made a new character and don't have dark/light 5 i can't immediately choose the opposite force combat style, but when this new character reach dark/light 1 they can flip it for free?
Sorry, I'm going to ask a potentially stupid question. Apologies if this was covered in the video and I haven't understood it already. With regards to the question answered around the 9 min 25 sec mark... I have some existing characters I created before the expansion. The video mentions that if they have any light/dark side points they get the option to flip to the other side. These characters of mine don't have any light/dark side points at all right now (we just had a baby a couple of months ago so I created some characters a while back but haven't had the time to log in and play as them yet). Basically, is this ability to flip sides a one time deal when you log in if you already have the required dark/light points? Or do we know if it's a prompt that appears at a later stage once you get the required dark/light side points? I'm not sure if the dev's answer to this question only applies to characters that are already aligned with the opposite side or whether it applies to all characters created before the expansion regardless of their current alignment (or lack thereof). The devs answer says you "would need" points with the other side. But do I need to have them now or can I get them later? Again, sorry if that's a monumentally stupid question!
After watching this part of the video about 10 times, I'm interpreting it as "I'll get the option later once I get the dark/light points with the opposite side". Having thought about it some more, I can't re-create some of them and start over because I have dark tier V already so my Jedi wouldn't get the option to flip (either now or later) unless I pick a dark side combat style right from the start anyway. Of course, if I'm still being stupid please feel free to set me straight!
I'm honestly not entirely sure. You can always TRY this: Don't accept /start the quest. Earn the needed dark/light level. Start the quest. See if it gives you the option (its the first part of the cutscene). If it works, HURRAY! If it does not work - you can press ESC to escape out the cutscene and better decide how you want to handle the sadness.
@@Swtorista Thanks for the response. I went on to watch some of your other videos on the changes and saw there was a quest to do this rather than just a prompt that pops up when you log in or just when you randomly get alignment points. That's where some of my confusion was coming from. This was the first video I watched on the topic so I hadn't seen that already. So that answered part of my question. I did have another thought about this after switching my pc off last night. If it doesn't give me the option to flip, I could always just sub again for a month and pick a second combat style. Then unsub with my preferred style active so I get to keep using it moving forward. So it's no big deal. Sadness handling not required. I think they envisioned what would happen with new characters, existing characters, people aligned with either side of the force etc. What they didn't envision was that some guy would have existing characters from 6 months ago with zero alignment points whatsoever because he's been busy changing nappies instead of doing even a single quest. So it wasn't really explicitly covered in any explanations I read or watched. My brain hurts less today after figuring it out.
It will nice to play the smuggler and agent storyline again with a combat style I like to actually play. Shield tech smuggler and bodyguard agent will be a lot of fun to play as at least for me.
I really don't understand the flip thing. I have an existing Level 75 Marauder from before 7.0, already finished all of her story up until then. I am a Preferred player so I'm not subbed. But when I log into this character, even though she's Light IV, I have no option to "flip" her to being Sentinel instead of Marauder. Is this "flip" option for Subscribers only? Because otherwise I really don't understand why I don't get the quest when I log in.
I don't want to be a downer here... But honestly... What's the point of Combat styles? If we got the synergy between classes, like a Juggernaut using force lightning, that's be one thing. But switching completely to a different class, just why? I don't understand why this is special, just more options I guess? Seems like its more technical. Now you gotta keep two types of gear in your bags and switch whenever you get bored or to fill a spot? Eh, I just don't get it.
Once again you have taken the extremely complicated and made it understandable for the normal person. Thanks again for your effort to make excellent videos in a timely manner. You're a class act! :)
Question about flipping existing characters that wasn't covered in the video: Will I be able to flip my first combat style (I have the character at opposite alignment) even if I'm not subscribed? Or is flipping also a subscriber perk only?
@@eltacothemagnificent1029 yeah I found out apparently I can't since I'm only preferred so the mission doesn't show up to me yet Hopefully I will get the option to flip once I do sub tho And hey thanks for the response
My brain went on vacation, so help me clarify the combat styles and light/dark alignment. I have a light side leaning Sorc, currently capped. What, if anything will happen and/or will I need to do upon logging in after the Expansion goes live
It's completely understandable force using combat styles aka advanced classed can only use force using but I don't think it's too game braking to have access to your base class abilities. Also @Swtorista I've been playing the game now and then and have a high level Sith Assassin but I'm struggling to understand how the end game works?
I don't find this lightning thing strange. You choke/electrocute many people in cutscenes, but those opponents are already quite weak/injured, it is logical that you use a more advanced form of attacking someone (for example, a Marauder might be able to use Force Choke, but it is a quite weak situational ability which is barely used for anything but rooting/interrupting, it deals weak damage. A Lightning Sorcerer actually does not use that much Force Lighning, and relies more on Lighning Bolt/Thundering Blast).
Looking forward to this a lot. It’s nice to be able to get a few more play styles added to each character. But is anyone else really upset that already established characters can’t switch their combat styles? Yea you get to add a second one if you subscribe. But if the developers couldn’t figure out how to change the original then they should have considered making a exception by just giving those characters the ability to pick the 2nd one for free without having to be a subscriber. Or at the least maybe just one of your established characters? I know complaining about this is kinda petty. But I wanted to get rid of one of my current combat styles for my main because I stopped enjoying it.
So, if I have Dark V and Light V achievements unlocked and have an EXISTING character that is aligned with their faction (e.g. Jedi Consular Shadow that is light side), but also hasn't finished chapter 3, can I grind out some dark side points to flip to dark side alignment and then flip to the opposite combat style (assassin) once I finish chapter 3? I did not get any option when I logged in because I was light side aligned, but I would like to switch to the assassin!
Wait... it only saves one outfit per character...? So I will have to remake all of them manually and buy everything back - I deleted many items because of the lack of space?
Has there been any commentary about being able to unlock the 2nd combat style as a Premium using Cartel Coins? Or any option to purchase additional combat style slots using premium currency?
@@priver1835 Not wrong. It's why I care more about what you can get as premium, since I just collect security key CC to spend on unlocks. Not even going to mention if they are going to follow Blizzard steps and enable cross faction.
Okay so i've completed the sith inquisitor chaper 3 does that mean I can add second combat styles to my already existing alts ? example my lv 27 vanguard trooper or do I need to restart from lv 1.
They should make that for Force Users was a little Different, originally you would be locked for only The Chosen Light or Dark Side with Jedi or Sith, after Chapter 3 where was supose to Unlock that, if your Character was High Enough in light or Dark Side Then It would Unlock the oposite Side for them, If not, like a Jedi who remained Light Side until Chapter 3, then you would be able to choose only Light Side Combat Styles, but if you Chosen Dark Side until that point, then you would have a Second Combat style as a Dark Side User, but remained with your original Light Side, since you were a Jedi, The Same for Sith, that Way Both would be able to Have Both sides but not so much immersion Breaking, since your Character would only use the opposite Força Power after having his Progression, and being "Corrupted/Cleansed" and now can Choose The other way Like Star Killer, begun like a Sith, then you can make him become a Jedi until The End, but he Still uses The Dark Side Powers... They Could make that If You are a Sith with High Light Side your Lightinings would be more Blue, and if you are more Dark Side they become more Purple, showing that you know The Dark Side Power but Have light Side in you, since The Force dont know The Difference in Dark or Light, it only manifest It self PS: But all I really wanted was to be able to use a Inquisitor, using Double Blade Staff Lightsaber but using Sorcerer Lightining Skills... That would make me feel more like a Sorcerer, using a Staff, That would be Awesome
I’ve had lots of ability buttons messed up by loadout glitches. Luckily I have screenshots saved. But it’s so irritating when I have to redo the entire thing all over again.
You know what really amazing wouldt have been? If you could combine the abilities. Not just switch arround, there is nothing special to it . Imagine a Inquisitor with hard sith warrior combat style combined with lightnings. And why we cant have bounty Hunters with Vibro? All this Expansion is a disappointment. To short to heartless. Its more a dlc worth 5 bucks.
So, if a make a sith assassin (double bladed lightsaber), can I select (in the second combat style) a class with a single bladed saber (and use this lightsaber)? The central point is, I have an sith assassin but I prefer to play with a single lightsaber intead of the dual bladed, this is possible with this new feature?
So basically as I can tell. From in a city/cantina or whatever, we can change our class to the secondary one we picked and that's really all there is to it. Not nearly as exciting as I had pictured it would be. Thought we would actually get to mix abilities from both.
So am I misunderstanding or maybe I missed it but it sounds like you need to finish the story on each character to be able to switch combat styles. Then I heard someone say that you just need to be max level. So which is it? Sorry I am just confused.
I think she said you need at least one character that has completed act 3 in your class story. After that you should be able to make a fresh character and pick a 2nd combat style as soon as you start playing them. It won't work if you switch servers.
I love how she gave Clear and precise answers and went into Depth with each one instead of just Yes or no.
"Can I be a pistol-wielding Jedi" pew pew. ROFL!!! Love the added excitement and sound effects. :)
When I first heard about this, I thought it'd be something ridiculous like smugglers with light sabers or some shit.
Thankfully not and it'll make more sense and also be reasonable selection, always wanted a sniper bounty hunter ever since I saw that one cutscene in the main story. Now once combat slyles comes tomorrow, I can finally be that dream build I always wanted and make a main bounty hunter. Instead of just my sith marauder being the only main I like.
Yh i also find it really cool with the alignment with the force. It makes a lot more sense than a jedi just starting instantly as dark side. You can tell they actually put thought and care into this and didn't want to make it stupid.
@@chalk1415 Thank goodness for that, I'm glad they worked it out the plans first.
Yeah instead it's jedi legitimately on the imperial fleet along with troopers and vise versa takes away from what the game used to be and actually was.
i agree with you but i would have no problem with them being able to use a Virbosword or techstaff and i know of some jedi in the lore that did use blasters
@@maxrander0101 That's kind of what I thought it would end up being. Honestly kind of wish we had a LS or Vibrosword and pistol class. It's something i've wanted since beta. :/ game's been out for a long time and we haven't gotten any new classes.
I’m going with a Sniper/Smuggler combo. I want the stealth and pistol of the smuggler, but I love the long range capabilities of the Sniper. Plus, I can skip unwanted mobs
exaclty what i'm going to do
That would be Sniper-Scoundrel.
@@DragonxFlutter yes, thank you
You won't get both at the same time. These aren't abilities that are shared, its a loadout.
@@alexanderperez5347 yeah but switching is pretty easy so it shouldn't be an issue
Can’t wait to see 200 lightning sorc’s on Tython lol
Yeah, I'll be one of them, not gonna lie.
@@Briansgate oh I’ll definitely be one as well. Too tempting to resist.
They should make that for Force Users was a little Different, originally you would be locked for only The Chosen Light or Dark Side with Jedi or Sith, after Chapter 3 where was supose to Unlock that, if your Character was High Enough in light or Dark Side Then It would Unlock the oposite Side for them, If not, like a Jedi who remained Light Side until Chapter 3, then you would be able to choose only Light Side Combat Styles, but if you Chosen Dark Side until that point, then you would have a Second Combat style as a Dark Side User, but remained with your original Light Side, since you were a Jedi, The Same for Sith, that Way Both would be able to Have Both sides but not so much immersion Breaking, since your Character would only use the opposite Força Power after having his Progression, and being "Corrupted/Cleansed" and now can Choose The other way
Like Star Killer, begun like a Sith, then you can make him become a Jedi until The End, but he Still uses The Dark Side Powers...
They Could make that If You are a Sith with High Light Side your Lightinings would be more Blue, and if you are more Dark Side they become more Purple, showing that you know The Dark Side Power but Have light Side in you, since The Force dont know The Difference in Dark or Light, it only manifest It self
But all I really wanted was to be able to use a Inquisitor, using Double Blade Staff Lightsaber but using Sorcerer Lightining Skills...
That would make me feel more like a Sorcerer, using a Staff, That would be Awesome
Well, I always thought that the pelting your opponent with pebbles looked a bit underwhelming, so not gonna lie, I'm definitely going sorc on my next consular :p
I really hope they'll solve the issue to change combat style on existing characters later down the line.
@Sonic Mobian One idea I had for roleplay would be, on my inquisitor to have one double bladed style with the retribution exposed double lightsaber, and the 2nd could be a marauder style with 2 retribution exposed single blade lightsabers.
So basically connecting/disconnecting "the same" lightsaber
So far it doesn't even work on new characters, the change combat style quest just bugs out for my new characters, doesn't let me leave the instance the quest takes place in, and I have to delete the character, because it becomes unsalvageable
@@magatmilan8925 Aouch
Considering I enjoy the ability to sneak past enemies, I'm going to take Shadow, Assassin, Scoundrel and Operative as my go-to secondary or primary combat style on any character.
Hey, just thought about something. Using two combat styles that have the exact same weapon (for example, Gunslinger and Mercenary both having dual pistols), they'd switch up their style without having to change their weapons and wouldn't look strange like someone putting away their assault cannon only to pull out a tiny little blaster pistol.
I'm in a similar frame of mind.
A Stalker in The Old Republic? Eyy based
"like someone putting away their assault cannon only to pull out a tiny little blaster pistol."
Looks at literally any cutscene
Combine a stealth character with a strong AE (balance sage, etc) and you will be a daily/heroic killing machine!
Why did people EVER thought they'll get an ability to mix & match skills/use other weapons? I thought even back when it was first announced it was pretty clear, you're just switching classes, that's it, nothing extra.
It’s the only misconception I thought was very clear from the beginning you can switch between styles not mixing/matching abilities , I agree ☝️
Honestly they should add mixing/matching abilities or special abilites for certain combat class combos. Other games have done this type of thing and its really fun and adds more unique playstyles. The problem is now is that everyone is going to roll a stealth class now
@@Cookiesrfood not all games work with it. We COULD cut the amount of disciplines & abilities, thus making it easier to balance & then start giving people ability to mix & match, but it's gonna be a nightmare.
Then Combat Styles is pointless, just grab a alt.
@@fenixmaker They are good, if you want to play another class without leveling said class OR if you hate VA (I lot of people hate Male Jedi Consular, so they gonna make Jedi Knight Shadows).
Being able to have two specs is actually great for extra content. You could effectively be a Tank, DPS and Healer on one toon
Hopefully this increases the number of tanks and healers, but I'm not holding my breath. :p
@@djmeowth I have multiple tanks, DPS and Healers in my cadre. I'm not super excited about the ability to do all of that on one character.
@@jimhansen5395 Okay?
Everyone is going to roll a stealth character now so I don't see tanks and healers increasing that much lol
@@Cookiesrfood saw bones and medic have heals. Have stealth. And js/sa have a stealth.
Every character I make will have at least one of their combat styles be one of the appropriate stealth ones just for the ability to sneak pass enemies when I don't feel like fighting (which is becoming more often as of late). More often than not I just want to get to the actual story mission areas and not fight through hordes of enemies just to get there.
I'm probably gonna use the vanilla still, combat styles sounded cool when announced but they aren't anything I thought they would be.
I want to play the game, not have to worry about min/maxing combat styles to enjoy the story.
I'm sure some people will feel differently because they can't have their "dark" Jedi use Force lightning, 6 lightsabers, and a Spewie on everyone. 😆
I’ve been playing SWTOR since 2013. I actually reminisce about how amazing I found it. What an amazing experience.
Genuinely this new crap should've stayed on the pts server indefinitely
I think this seperation was planned to bring new combat styles in the future because Story Classes would be an obstacle.
For sure
Thank you so much for this. I've played this since it's launch and every once in awhile I'll take a few months off and have to figure out all the new changes. This just saved me so much time since this time coming back I had no clue what was going on. This is one of the cooler changes they have done to expand on that RP side and that I've missed since SWG.
cheers and welcome back!
Awesome to see you gathered together a lot of the questions that have been bugging me, and thank you!!
cheers!! :)
What is the use even....its just dual spec, if i wanne play another spec i pick a alt, if u could have force jump as a stealth Assassin i would be happy... This combat style adds nothing
Sad times, if we has been able to make a duel wielding sith Assassin i would have come back to the game for a bit. To me honestly i dont see the big deal about it all. Glad lots of people are excited about. As a founder when it first came out i dont think SWtor ever got the credit it deserved.
Same here man, I've mained a sith assassin since launch, I would love to be a sith assassin with duel wield light sabers, not sure why its not a thing. for this reason I dont really care about the new combat styles
Yeah I thought force user and tech users would at least be able to use all of the perspective weapons. I also play as an assassin tank since I started and was excited to dual or even single wield as I tried out some dps and healing styles for the first time. Ah well, this feels like something that should have already been available as just a quality of life update in a way.
@@loganronin5383 I understand that if assassins could dual wield, they would have to change up the attack animations, but considering how old the game is, that should have been done by now. fingers crossed that i'll eventually be a stealthy assassin with 2 light sabers
im an old player returning, i was so stoked for the changes, till i saw the achievement lockout, because i enjoyed light side choices and played mostly before the whole (select alignment = passive generation) meaning most characters are light side but my favourite combat style is sorcerer so now i have to commit to hours and hours of grind to play the update i was previously excited for.
edit: to play the way i was excited for* i havent completed 3 of the light side stories because i disliked the combat styles, so i was excited to get them done without having to deal with the light side classes
EDIT: OK! ... After I post this I tried a few more times and now it does it properly.. Must've just been me messing it up somehow >.>' ... Nevermind this then! :D
Didn't wanna remove the initial message.
@Swtorista --> I just tried making a new toon --> swapping between the two combat styles doesn't seem to remember the Ability Location on Ability Bar.
Hope it gets fixed // is supposed to work! :-p gonna be a hassle to rearrange all the abilities every time you wanna swap.
its funkyyyyyyyy lol
I am living the dream as a Shadow Knight. Shadow was my fav class because of stealth, but the Knight story is the most enjoyable for me pub side. So lets goooo baby!!
Programmers: We ripped the "classes" out of the plot lines. It broke a ton of things but we can fix some of it by next year. Pretty sure the UI is perma-borked, but we managed to get dual specs mostly working. Maybe. We hope.
Marketing and Advertising: Combine the new combat styles with any class (story) you want to experience! BOLD new user interface! Choose an alternate combat style for all your characters! (Joe, edit this before release with actual relevant details)
Accounting: We need more revenue for other projects, gate everything you can behind a subscription model and don't even think about touching the cash cow. Ahem sorry, cartel market. No we can't hire more people.
Players: IM'MA GONNA BE A JEDISORCERERNINJADRAGON WITH DUAL PISTOLSABERCANNONS! GONNA BE SO LIT!
Feedback and Customer Service: What in the name of.....no no, calm down. Remember your training, just delete it all, as usual.
Joe: Best career change ever.✌
This made me laugh thanks.
One strange note... they really didn't pump the cartel market this expansion, very few new items were sold! Poor accounting.
feel like its a huge missed opportunity to not allow cross skills from different classes. doesn't have to be anything we want, could just be specific ones ya know? kinda like ff14 back in the day. feelssadman :(
Overall this sounds pretty great, I just don’t understand the purpose of making you exit phase to swap classes (and specs?), IMO it defeats the purpose of it, it’s just as fast to pull up a legacy bay, throw gear in, and swap to another toon
At first I couldn't even change unless in a Cantina! Then I realized in the Legacy panel- you can get quick respec. Still can't do it in a phase, but you can do it elsewhere
Probably because everyone would just switch to a stealth class and run by the entire phase to the boss then switch back to their main class. This was a bad idea from the start. No reason to have a second class. No reason.
I decided keep my Jedi Knight with Guardian Defence as my primary combat style but I went with Sage Seer as my secondary combat style, that way I can maintain my tank playstyle and have some minor healing skills to give my character more of a Paladin feel
I understand why they limit force styles to force characters, but a jedi Knight who is also a scoundrel would be awesome.
It would be very Luke Skywalker, or even like the Kenobi show.
Huh. Now I feel bad for misdirecting my friend about telling her she can be a merc with an assault cannon
That subscription needed option to use a second style is a horrible idea.
Devs need to get paid too you know.
Thanks for this breakdown! My light-aligned Jugg has embraced the light, and I'm loving it!
Hi, can i ask you if my juggernaut reaches light V can he switch to Guardian ?
Your show is perfect! Thank you for getting things straight. Keep it coming👍
Darth Shideous can finally be a Lightning Sorcerer/Fury Marauder!
That last clip as the video ended made me feel like i was in a TARDIS with the doors open
I didn't see my question and I haven't been able to find it, so here goes: does your combat style restrict the type of armor you're able to wear?
Example: My Powertech Bounty Hunter wears heavy armor. If I switch her combat style to Scoundrel, am I now only capable of wearing medium armor until I switch back?
I think so yes. Unless you wear adaptive armor then you have nothing to worry about.
It is still a little disappointing we can't change mid-combat. I would have liked for my assassin to switch to single blade and back during fights. lol I would even use the matching hits to pretend you're just turning it on/off.
Wasted opportunity to mix abilities.
this actually answers a lot of my questions, and sadly i have to say im disappointed, the combat styles add nothing new to the game, sure it changes your combat moves, but what is the point in that since the classes have there own specific flavor to it, as an example, bounty hunter class people choose it for rockets, fire and jetpacks, why would you want to change that out when you chose bounty hunter specifically for that. All this new update does is allow players the ability to be tank dps and healer, instead of being stuck in dps dps dps, or dps tank etc... and allowing the player to only need one character to have high level gear on, thats fine and all. But the fact that people are excited for playing the story (which stops mattering once you enter knights of the fallen empire) while changing the way that fight, makes no sense. I would much prefer if they allowed us to use different weapons when we multiclass in a way DnD works, where when you multiclass, you gain the passives as well, such as armor proficiency and weapon proficiency.
my point is, if you really want players to play the way they want, this isnt the way to go, i want to be boba fett, yet im stuck playing as jango fett with dual pistols, or some random bounty hunter with a pistol that uses a flame thrower, but if i could change that pistol to a rifle, boom im boba fett.
Also dont give the excuse that it would be too hard for developers to give weapons to other classes because plenty of other games do it easily by just using the same move in weapons, I.E. a strong sword a attack does a spin in WoW while the rogue with a dagger does the same thing. If a sith warrior does a choke with his left hand, and a sith inquistor shoots a quick bolt with his left hand, the animation didnt really change, in fact its the same. the only thing different are the FX.
I whole heartedly agree. I really thought maybe I would be able to use a Double Bladed lightsaber on my Jedi Guardian..but i guess it just won’t be happening..oh well
They never said we'd be able to play exactly how we want with this expansion. What they said was we'd get more options to play closer to how we want than the game started with. Now, people that play as a Bounty Hunter don't have to be stuck cosplaying as Boba OR Jango Fett. They can bounty hunt with a sniper, and be one of the other BH characters from the Star Wars universe. What you want is just a giant pool of powers to pick from, which isn't what they said they were doing or ever promised they'd do.
Hi I have a question, sorry if its been already answered. Say I star a jedi knight with light side guardian+sage combat styles, and I want him to fall to the dark side during the story content. Will I be able to switch to the mirror styles (jugg+sorc) when I get to dark V or something?
Is the download going to be available before it launches like WoW does?
Hi SWTORISTA. Happy Valentine’s Day to you!
I was wondering how do you unlock the force legacy for the force users so that you can use whatever force powers you want on you force character? I hope I got this question correct that it makes sense. Thank you
Lightnin, pffft. Fear my pebbles!
This is a really cool feature, but the thing I'm most stoked about is not needing to make two of each class so that I can play every advanced class. Now I can just make a single Jedi Knight and have both the Jedi Guardian and the Jedi Sentinel advanced classes on one character. So you now only need 8 characters total to play every class in the game, which you were going to have to do anyways if you wanted to get Legendary.
So, if you’ve finished ANY 3rd chapter, you can get a second class for any toon, or is it only for a specific character that has finished the 3rd chapter? Basically, if I’ve finished the 3rd chapter on my Bounty Hunter, I’ll be able to create an operative with a second class? Or only the Bounty Hunter that I used?
Never mind, answered my question
I've been waiting for this
video of yours >3
I came back as a Free to play character and I was not able to use Combat styles until I subscribed. I hope you get to keep them if the sub runs out.
if your sub runs out you get stuck with the one you used last :)
New player here. Made my first character yesterday.
Don't the story classes have their own abilities? I started playing as a Scoundrel Smuggler, but also want to try Tactics Vanguard as my combat style. Wouldn't I be able to use some of the Smuggler abilities not tied to the advanced classes *in addition* to the Vanguard stuff?
Or is it just that the only thing the choice of story class changes is the story you play through?
I dunno, I sort of got the impression when this got first announced that you could mix your base class abilities in with advanced class abilities from an entirely different class, creating your character's unique play style? *Basically* like a hybrid class?
No mixing. No hybrid. Sorry!
I have a question about two combat styles. For example, I have two combat styles, Sorcerer and Shadow. After completing the heroics will I receive rewards (crates with gear) for style which was chosen at the end of heroic or I can choose the crate for sorcerer or shadow?
Super scared but also highly optimistic.
- Let's hope the expansion and all the changes are for the better in the long run :-)
I knew this was garbage. 4:28 Thank you for the precise answers. and good video.
okay, my only thing when it comes to the tech combat styles, Is it really worth it to do for example a sniper/gunslinger, or vanguard/powertech when those combat styles do the exact same thing, just with slightly different animations? It's like Bloodsport and Peacemaker being on the suicide squad, why do I need 2? I understand the cosmetic desire but from a gameplay standpoint it doesn't make a whole lotta sense, this plagues my mind when I try to pick second combat styles while still wanting to create a good aesthetic for my chars, for example I am happy with my trooper with Merc/Vanguard even though I just effectively changed the weapon and animations of the Commando, my point is maybe the devs should make some additions and/or changes to how the combat styles behave to make them feel more unique in their utility.
hey swtorista what sub class would fit better a Mandalorian bountyhunter with a amban rifle? the vanguard style or sniper? i want to do damage mostly and I don't like the imperial agent fighting style, way too much healing and it doesn't feel like a Mandalorian sadly. any recommendation that fits better a Mandalorian bounty hunter?
Clan Odekk is going to start this expansion off with a BANG! Sarle Shan Server let's go!
Thanks, swtorista. I've been wondering about this since the expansion was announced.
Say I create a Trooper Origin with the Sniper Combat Style. Trooper armor is all heavy, but Sniper wears medium, so does that restrict me to Smuggler sets? Does armor take on the appearance of Trooper equivalents?
Most sets are now called "adaptive" and can be worn by anyone :)
@@Swtorista Sweet thanks.
I just wanted a powertech with 2 guns... or a mercenary with a flametrhower u-u
So let me get this straight: as a bounty hunter I can switch to a commando style with an assault cannon? Or operative with a sniper rifle? On top of that will you need a correct armor set to accompany you every time you switch? Juggernaut Heavy Armor going to a sorc spec would remove the armor on your character right?
Most likely, just use adaptive armor
Okay, so what is the ACTUAL purpose of combat styles ?
As I see it, all it is, is like 2 characters combined in one.
So when I play my Jug, and want to play Sorc instead, then instead of logging out, and logging in to my Sorc character, I just switch combat style and BAM i'm Sorc.
Is there ANY other "Benefit" ?
So this is just the FFXIV job change except you only get 2 and you don't get the class story to go with it?
One of the first things I'm going to do is make my Powertech a ComMando
Will be there a token (like Arifacte Equipment) for the second combat Style? I would like to have this, since I'm no permanent Subciber Player.
Thank you for the break down, super helpful!!
My only issue thus far is class specific quest rewards, like the Sith Warblade for the Warrior, not adapting to your chosen combat style (say if you picked Assassin you don't get a double-warblade), and how cutscenes with weapon animations will react depending on what you have equipped at the time.
Question: what is the name of the music that plays while picking the 2nd combat style?
How about.... if I pick a secondary combat style for an exsisting character, and I realise "wait, no I don't want this one!", can I somehow swap to a different one? For a fee I would assume in that case...
I have a sniper, and I want to pick a secondary that also feels "secret agent"-y, but I also want to use a normal pistol.... So I'm going back and forth and can't decide on what I want, so if I'd change my mind after choosing one, it'd be a relief to know that it's not set in stone :O
Not sure if this has been asked. If you unlock the Dark V or Light V achievement using Cartel Coins, does that still count? (asking for a friend - really :p )
Hey Jim, I am actually wondering this one too! I can't easily test it as i already have it unlocked.
@@Swtorista The answer is definitively YES! I have a 2nd account that i use to test stuff like this and it definitely worked!
So this was awesome and answered most questions very in-depth. Something I'm left confused about is the gear itself. I'm going to use a non-personal example to make my point more clearly: If I'm playing a Commando now, but I switch to Sniper or the other Operative "combat styles" then can he still wear his Commando Armor/gear for aesthetics with the proper Operative weapon equipped (which the weapon part was answered excellently) like the Sniper Rifle. OR will he be forced to wear the Operative looking gear instead?
My actual example is actually more subtle as I'm wanting to make my Bounty Hunter keep his Mando looking armor but wield a rifle instead of pistols and obviously I get two choices for that, either Commando to keep his fighting style similar or Operative if I want to go that route. But in either case, even Commando, I'm not wanting to wear the Clone Trooper looking gear, I prefer my Mandalorian stuff.
Thank you for all your answers and making these videos!
cosmetically, for looks, you can wear whatever you want!
except for weapons
@@Swtorista awesome, thank you!!!
Now that you can pick your story separate from you class (aka before if you wanted to play a Sage, you HAD to do the consular story) I'm curious what the least/most picked stories are
Love to know that too! We keep giggling over Imperial Agent Commando
I saw the video where you were previewing the next galactic season in the test server. Does that new season begin at launch?
wait so a if i made a new character and don't have dark/light 5 i can't immediately choose the opposite force combat style, but when this new character reach dark/light 1 they can flip it for free?
Sorry, I'm going to ask a potentially stupid question. Apologies if this was covered in the video and I haven't understood it already.
With regards to the question answered around the 9 min 25 sec mark... I have some existing characters I created before the expansion. The video mentions that if they have any light/dark side points they get the option to flip to the other side. These characters of mine don't have any light/dark side points at all right now (we just had a baby a couple of months ago so I created some characters a while back but haven't had the time to log in and play as them yet).
Basically, is this ability to flip sides a one time deal when you log in if you already have the required dark/light points? Or do we know if it's a prompt that appears at a later stage once you get the required dark/light side points? I'm not sure if the dev's answer to this question only applies to characters that are already aligned with the opposite side or whether it applies to all characters created before the expansion regardless of their current alignment (or lack thereof). The devs answer says you "would need" points with the other side. But do I need to have them now or can I get them later?
Again, sorry if that's a monumentally stupid question!
After watching this part of the video about 10 times, I'm interpreting it as "I'll get the option later once I get the dark/light points with the opposite side". Having thought about it some more, I can't re-create some of them and start over because I have dark tier V already so my Jedi wouldn't get the option to flip (either now or later) unless I pick a dark side combat style right from the start anyway. Of course, if I'm still being stupid please feel free to set me straight!
I'm honestly not entirely sure. You can always TRY this: Don't accept /start the quest. Earn the needed dark/light level. Start the quest. See if it gives you the option (its the first part of the cutscene). If it works, HURRAY! If it does not work - you can press ESC to escape out the cutscene and better decide how you want to handle the sadness.
@@Swtorista Thanks for the response. I went on to watch some of your other videos on the changes and saw there was a quest to do this rather than just a prompt that pops up when you log in or just when you randomly get alignment points. That's where some of my confusion was coming from. This was the first video I watched on the topic so I hadn't seen that already. So that answered part of my question.
I did have another thought about this after switching my pc off last night. If it doesn't give me the option to flip, I could always just sub again for a month and pick a second combat style. Then unsub with my preferred style active so I get to keep using it moving forward. So it's no big deal. Sadness handling not required.
I think they envisioned what would happen with new characters, existing characters, people aligned with either side of the force etc. What they didn't envision was that some guy would have existing characters from 6 months ago with zero alignment points whatsoever because he's been busy changing nappies instead of doing even a single quest. So it wasn't really explicitly covered in any explanations I read or watched. My brain hurts less today after figuring it out.
It will nice to play the smuggler and agent storyline again with a combat style I like to actually play. Shield tech smuggler and bodyguard agent will be a lot of fun to play as at least for me.
I really don't understand the flip thing. I have an existing Level 75 Marauder from before 7.0, already finished all of her story up until then. I am a Preferred player so I'm not subbed. But when I log into this character, even though she's Light IV, I have no option to "flip" her to being Sentinel instead of Marauder.
Is this "flip" option for Subscribers only? Because otherwise I really don't understand why I don't get the quest when I log in.
It sounds like you should have had the option to flip / get the quest. Maybe put in a bug report?
I don't want to be a downer here... But honestly... What's the point of Combat styles? If we got the synergy between classes, like a Juggernaut using force lightning, that's be one thing. But switching completely to a different class, just why? I don't understand why this is special, just more options I guess? Seems like its more technical. Now you gotta keep two types of gear in your bags and switch whenever you get bored or to fill a spot? Eh, I just don't get it.
Once again you have taken the extremely complicated and made it understandable for the normal person. Thanks again for your effort to make excellent videos in a timely manner. You're a class act! :)
Question about flipping existing characters that wasn't covered in the video:
Will I be able to flip my first combat style (I have the character at opposite alignment) even if I'm not subscribed? Or is flipping also a subscriber perk only?
I got to flip on char with opposite alignment, like on my ds jedi knight and ls juggernaut but yeah I am a sub.
@@eltacothemagnificent1029 yeah I found out apparently I can't since I'm only preferred so the mission doesn't show up to me yet
Hopefully I will get the option to flip once I do sub tho
And hey thanks for the response
Sounds like the ideal build is a Juggernaut and Sorcerer. So you can both Tank and Heal depending on the situation. That's pretty dope
Sorc & Assassin - then you can tank, heal and stealth. Operative and PT is probably the best overall.
My main is jugg but I don't like sorc healing so assassin for the stealth I the way I'm going
My brain went on vacation, so help me clarify the combat styles and light/dark alignment. I have a light side leaning Sorc, currently capped. What, if anything will happen and/or will I need to do upon logging in after the Expansion goes live
So the existing character cannot change their combat style?
It's completely understandable force using combat styles aka advanced classed can only use force using but I don't think it's too game braking to have access to your base class abilities.
Also @Swtorista I've been playing the game now and then and have a high level Sith Assassin but I'm struggling to understand how the end game works?
Hey solid! Endgame just changed a few days ago so everyone is figuring it out right now ..
I don't find this lightning thing strange. You choke/electrocute many people in cutscenes, but those opponents are already quite weak/injured, it is logical that you use a more advanced form of attacking someone (for example, a Marauder might be able to use Force Choke, but it is a quite weak situational ability which is barely used for anything but rooting/interrupting, it deals weak damage. A Lightning Sorcerer actually does not use that much Force Lighning, and relies more on Lighning Bolt/Thundering Blast).
Looking forward to this a lot. It’s nice to be able to get a few more play styles added to each character. But is anyone else really upset that already established characters can’t switch their combat styles? Yea you get to add a second one if you subscribe. But if the developers couldn’t figure out how to change the original then they should have considered making a exception by just giving those characters the ability to pick the 2nd one for free without having to be a subscriber. Or at the least maybe just one of your established characters? I know complaining about this is kinda petty. But I wanted to get rid of one of my current combat styles for my main because I stopped enjoying it.
So, if I have Dark V and Light V achievements unlocked and have an EXISTING character that is aligned with their faction (e.g. Jedi Consular Shadow that is light side), but also hasn't finished chapter 3, can I grind out some dark side points to flip to dark side alignment and then flip to the opposite combat style (assassin) once I finish chapter 3?
I did not get any option when I logged in because I was light side aligned, but I would like to switch to the assassin!
The only variation I would pick would be the ability to use a double bladed light saber on my knight. I like those a lot.
not gonna lie i'm nervous and excited to see these changes.
What’s the armor set at 0:27 the all white one. Would love to know thanks!
Wait... it only saves one outfit per character...? So I will have to remake all of them manually and buy everything back - I deleted many items because of the lack of space?
Has there been any commentary about being able to unlock the 2nd combat style as a Premium using Cartel Coins? Or any option to purchase additional combat style slots using premium currency?
Don't be silly, this is EA. The people behind the innovative choice that prevent you from /cry without subscribing first :D
@@priver1835 Not wrong. It's why I care more about what you can get as premium, since I just collect security key CC to spend on unlocks.
Not even going to mention if they are going to follow Blizzard steps and enable cross faction.
Okay so i've completed the sith inquisitor chaper 3 does that mean I can add second combat styles to my already existing alts ? example my lv 27 vanguard trooper or do I need to restart from lv 1.
They should make that for Force Users was a little Different, originally you would be locked for only The Chosen Light or Dark Side with Jedi or Sith, after Chapter 3 where was supose to Unlock that, if your Character was High Enough in light or Dark Side Then It would Unlock the oposite Side for them, If not, like a Jedi who remained Light Side until Chapter 3, then you would be able to choose only Light Side Combat Styles, but if you Chosen Dark Side until that point, then you would have a Second Combat style as a Dark Side User, but remained with your original Light Side, since you were a Jedi, The Same for Sith, that Way Both would be able to Have Both sides but not so much immersion Breaking, since your Character would only use the opposite Força Power after having his Progression, and being "Corrupted/Cleansed" and now can Choose The other way
Like Star Killer, begun like a Sith, then you can make him become a Jedi until The End, but he Still uses The Dark Side Powers...
They Could make that If You are a Sith with High Light Side your Lightinings would be more Blue, and if you are more Dark Side they become more Purple, showing that you know The Dark Side Power but Have light Side in you, since The Force dont know The Difference in Dark or Light, it only manifest It self
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But all I really wanted was to be able to use a Inquisitor, using Double Blade Staff Lightsaber but using Sorcerer Lightining Skills...
That would make me feel more like a Sorcerer, using a Staff, That would be Awesome
I’ve had lots of ability buttons messed up by loadout glitches. Luckily I have screenshots saved. But it’s so irritating when I have to redo the entire thing all over again.
I think there were some super bugs the first two days. I THINK the big ones are fixed now. See loadouts vid coming in 20 mins!
I chose a secondary combat style for my character.. is there a way to undo it or change that to something else?
no :(
You know what really amazing wouldt have been? If you could combine the abilities. Not just switch arround, there is nothing special to it . Imagine a Inquisitor with hard sith warrior combat style combined with lightnings. And why we cant have bounty Hunters with Vibro? All this Expansion is a disappointment. To short to heartless. Its more a dlc worth 5 bucks.
So, if a make a sith assassin (double bladed lightsaber), can I select (in the second combat style) a class with a single bladed saber (and use this lightsaber)? The central point is, I have an sith assassin but I prefer to play with a single lightsaber intead of the dual bladed, this is possible with this new feature?
No, if you play as an assassin, you must use a double-saber.
So no bounty hunter with rifle?
finally, I can now play as Imperial Trooper. Or bully Darth Baras the Wise and shoot lightnings at the same time.
So basically as I can tell. From in a city/cantina or whatever, we can change our class to the secondary one we picked and that's really all there is to it. Not nearly as exciting as I had pictured it would be. Thought we would actually get to mix abilities from both.
So am I misunderstanding or maybe I missed it but it sounds like you need to finish the story on each character to be able to switch combat styles. Then I heard someone say that you just need to be max level. So which is it? Sorry I am just confused.
I think she said you need at least one character that has completed act 3 in your class story. After that you should be able to make a fresh character and pick a 2nd combat style as soon as you start playing them. It won't work if you switch servers.
Swtorista ur the best for real, you just answered my main question lol!
cheers!!! tons of questions about this feature
Hey, if I have a Sith Inquisitor Hatred, can I also have sorcerer lightning?
i've always loved the light side sith warrior play through, now i can actually go full light side
Same for me but in reverse. Dark Jedi Knight with Sith Warrior abilities.
Thank you for your video swtorista.Please explain more about switching combat styles ingame.Iam a warrior with assasin and second sorcerer.
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