As a hitter in baseball I never manually tried to hit with the trail arm. I have experimented with every golf swing idea I could find and have found for me any effort to unload the trail arm and wrist drastically slows my swing down and causes poor contact and face control problems.
@@dso1986I’m not preventing it but I’m also not trying to help it happen. I think of the wrists as a free hinge. As for grip pressure that is a difficult topic because I’m sure it’s much tighter than what I feel.
Man I can relate to the having to trust it will get in front of you. I have had my blissful moments of achieving this, but under pressure in a competition down narrow Scottish courses/ just letting things happen is tough! My biggest challenge is when I achieve this but then something means I loose my strike and letting it get out in front simply isn't working for whatever reason. That's when it gets really hard. When I have the relaxation needed to allow this to happen - I get too relaxed and roll takeaway get flat and slightly steepen on the downswing. Keeping at it though because I've felt what it is like when I achieve it!! Butter!!
I work so damn hard on my swing and then watch you and Milo make these effortless driver swings. Brandon you made the comment several times you have to trust it. So true. I just can’t seem to get over the hump to make that swing. My coach has me practicing with half swings. Not sure it is helping. I’m so confused
Milo, I see zero slide bump shift ,whatever you want to call it to the left. In fact the only thing that brings you to the left side is the club momentum. I tend to get on front and drag it thru thinking my speed needs that shift. Also seems nearly impossible to get over the top. Am I seeing this the correct way?
The lag/hit tee with club upside down video gave me a reproducable lightbulb moment. For me, the key to executing it is to conciously keep the right wrist bent from P6. Still not sure about arms down or not and the down&left move in transition. The right pec use to close the gap is interesting. I still struggle to see how one can generate speed or how one can increase it without using the arms, hands and a concious release, but you clearly show that it can be done. My question is: what is the source of your natural club head speed with such a swing and how can it be increased? Chest rotation speed? From P6 or earlier? How can one train/get it? Is there info in the impactforce program about this? I am talking about getting it up from the 80s into the 90s and maybe to 100, not something outrageous....
After watching a ton of Malaska videos over the past couple days, this really seems contradictory to what he is teaching. With regards to keeping the club in front and not letting it get behind you. Curious how Milo and Mike’s methods are similar and different, especially with them teaching at the same course and working together. Also, the Malaska swing is feeling pretty good so far, so not looking to switch it up quite yet.
Milo is just flat out great. Every time I see one of his vids, or see content on his channel I am inspired. Cheers brother, one day I'll be able to come and meet you in person.
To be fair Jack played a fade with a CF release from the inside. Would have preferred to have seen it done with different release patterns not “the only way”
Milo, From what I understand you are a former baseball player as am I (college). I’m a bit surprised to now understand that you are a “swinger” to the point of having a Moe Norman type of hand action through impact. As Moe Norman used to say “The secret to my swing is my passive hands.” The flip side of that coin is of course a “hitter” to the point of a Ben Hogan who famously said “I wish I had 3 right hands.” I firmly believe that at first when a golfer is learning to ACCELERATE it is far better accomplished by just attempting to progress as a “swinger,” again, at first. So Milo, I’m a bit surprised that you, as an X-baseball player, has not at least incorporated some of a “hitters” hand action into your own golf swing. For example, I consider Jack Nicklaus as having a golf swing that is about 50% swinger and 50% hitter. Milo, I would most certainly like to applaud your brief description to Brendan describing how you come into impact without using your hands to propel the driver in any type of “forced casting motion,” but just let the club head naturally release out in front of you through impact, which is a classic swinger feel. There are virtually no other golf swing instructors on YT capable of understanding this, let alone describe it. As I was learning to ACCELERATE through impact, I immediately became aware of the different “vibration” I felt the shaft produce. As I became an ACCELERATING “swinger” and now more aware of “shaft flex” than ever before, I soon became that “greedy golfer” who wanted MORE. And that was the driving force that made me ultimately become a 75% “hitter” (25% swinger). The greed of wanting to “hold more shaft flex” into impact, and then of “holding that shaft flex” long after impact. Us “hitters” are a greedy lot for sure, always wanting more shaft flex to hold. See page 93 in Hogans 5-Lessons. The first full paragraph describes a “swinger” and the second (last) paragraph is where Hogan begins to reveal his hands “hitting” action. Fascinating yet simple stuff by Hogan, but very-very few actually understand what Hogan was attempting to convey. A hobby of mine is to twist arrogant know nothing “Hogan Aficionados” into pretzels….and then laugh hilariously in their face. Yea, I’ve been around since the early 1980’s (Met Section) and learned to loath those arrogant fools, of which there are MANY. I’m sure Jim McLean still remembers me laughing at him at Sleepy Hollow. McLean was an overrated fool then, and I’m sure he’s the exact same overrated fool today.
As a hitter in baseball I never manually tried to hit with the trail arm. I have experimented with every golf swing idea I could find and have found for me any effort to unload the trail arm and wrist drastically slows my swing down and causes poor contact and face control problems.
The centerpiece of the downswing is an aggressive rotation of the left hip in early transition . This results in the lead knee rotating early and weight moving towards the outside of the lead foot
@@davecohn6407 …..You say: “The centerpiece of the downswing is an aggressive rotation of the left hip in early transition.” I say: “That’s utter nonsense.” One of the first things golfers say when they truly begin to enter the realm of ACCELERATION is “wow, the club head feels to move so slow from transition.” And of course the movement of the club head from transition is accomplished by the movement of the left hip, which is also “slow” from transition. I highly doubt you have ever entered the true realm of ACCELERATION.
@@lookmil107not sure. I’ve heard some prominent coaches talk about the idea but I haven’t seen evidence of anyone actually doing it. I’ve seen hundreds of Swings in 3d showing the shafts bend at every interval of the swing and have yet to see anyone actually hold shaft flex. In every case including Greg Norman and Sergio Garcia, two that are said to hold shaft flex, the shaft was already bent some amount forward at impact.
Yep it’s really cool. That easy speed had definitely convinced me I should persevere with this method. Have had good success with irons - driver I’m struggling more with. As Brendan says, you need to trust that the clubface will be good as your turn chest through…
Really liking the leaving the center of mass back thought while turning Something that I used to do without realizing it when I was playing my best golf. Nice to rediscover it.
Many touring pros are not capable of both fading and drawing the ball consistently , while under pressure . It is basically a wasteful deception for less talented players to try to develop both a draw and fade . IF they can consistently draw or fade the ball , they will improve greatly
Is it just me or do the trackman numbers not add up? The last swing for instance with face/path basically matching +5. Shouldn’t that be just a straight push? Also, the swing before where he said it faded, face was -0.6 to path. How does that ball fade with path right and face slightly closed to that? Should be a slight draw? I’m confused…is D plane the difference?
Milo you're golfing machine 😀. Milo get out of that hot desert and come out east and play some golf let's play bethpage black together!!!! Brandon come on East and do some videos on Long Island New York!!!
Learning without a little guidance is a real challenge because there are quite a few moving parts to match up. Have you considered a lesson with me or my team? We offer an online academy as well as in person and online options.
As a hitter in baseball I never manually tried to hit with the trail arm. I have experimented with every golf swing idea I could find and have found for me any effort to unload the trail arm and wrist drastically slows my swing down and causes poor contact and face control problems.
I would agree with that 100%. Any effort to do that would short circuit the transfer of energy into the club from the rest of you.
Are you trying to prevent your release? How tight is your grip pressure throughout the transition n downswing?
@@dso1986I’m not preventing it but I’m also not trying to help it happen. I think of the wrists as a free hinge. As for grip pressure that is a difficult topic because I’m sure it’s much tighter than what I feel.
Feel ain’t real and it’s unlikely the laws of physics cease to exist on your stove.
@@iacas Where you play the shot from is where you feel it. When you can measure from there, instead of outside looking in… let me know
welcome back to earth with great content we can understand, admire and learn from!
Underrated comment lol well done
Great advice, now that is A1 instruction, Milo always keeps it clear and simple, exactly the kind of teaching Pro we all need, thanks Brandon.
Man I can relate to the having to trust it will get in front of you. I have had my blissful moments of achieving this, but under pressure in a competition down narrow Scottish courses/ just letting things happen is tough! My biggest challenge is when I achieve this but then something means I loose my strike and letting it get out in front simply isn't working for whatever reason. That's when it gets really hard. When I have the relaxation needed to allow this to happen - I get too relaxed and roll takeaway get flat and slightly steepen on the downswing. Keeping at it though because I've felt what it is like when I achieve it!! Butter!!
Milo is awesome 👌
You’ve always hit it the best with Milo.
I work so damn hard on my swing and then watch you and Milo make these effortless driver swings. Brandon you made the comment several times you have to trust it. So true. I just can’t seem to get over the hump to make that swing. My coach has me practicing with half swings. Not sure it is helping. I’m so confused
Milo, I see zero slide bump shift ,whatever you want to call it to the left. In fact the only thing that brings you to the left side is the club momentum. I tend to get on front and drag it thru thinking my speed needs that shift. Also seems nearly impossible to get over the top. Am I seeing this the correct way?
The lag/hit tee with club upside down video gave me a reproducable lightbulb moment.
For me, the key to executing it is to conciously keep the right wrist bent from P6.
Still not sure about arms down or not and the down&left move in transition.
The right pec use to close the gap is interesting.
I still struggle to see how one can generate speed or how one can increase it without using the arms, hands and a concious release, but you clearly show that it can be done.
My question is: what is the source of your natural club head speed with such a swing and how can it be increased? Chest rotation speed? From P6 or earlier? How can one train/get it? Is there info in the impactforce program about this?
I am talking about getting it up from the 80s into the 90s and maybe to 100, not something outrageous....
The key is loading and unloading the system at the correct time and place in the swing.
After watching a ton of Malaska videos over the past couple days, this really seems contradictory to what he is teaching. With regards to keeping the club in front and not letting it get behind you. Curious how Milo and Mike’s methods are similar and different, especially with them teaching at the same course and working together. Also, the Malaska swing is feeling pretty good so far, so not looking to switch it up quite yet.
Milo is just flat out great. Every time I see one of his vids, or see content on his channel I am inspired. Cheers brother, one day I'll be able to come and meet you in person.
Let’s get to work!
Nice swing speed
Is there a link for Milo’s Academy members to access Impact Force videos?
I haven’t looked at Milo’s site yet. If it’s there disregard
Milo, what is your driver and iron shaft flex?
I play Terra Forza Yellow tipped 1 inch very similar to Ventus Black Xstiff
Besides hitting up on the ball, will this apply to irons also?
Yes!
311 carry on a heel fade at 173 ball speed. hmmm
It still launched high with low spin and the wind was about 10-15 mph down and off the left.
To be fair Jack played a fade with a CF release from the inside. Would have preferred to have seen it done with different release patterns not “the only way”
Milo, From what I understand you are a former baseball player as am I (college). I’m a bit surprised to now understand that you are a “swinger” to the point of having a Moe Norman type of hand action through impact. As Moe Norman used to say “The secret to my swing is my passive hands.” The flip side of that coin is of course a “hitter” to the point of a Ben Hogan who famously said “I wish I had 3 right hands.” I firmly believe that at first when a golfer is learning to ACCELERATE it is far better accomplished by just attempting to progress as a “swinger,” again, at first. So Milo, I’m a bit surprised that you, as an X-baseball player, has not at least incorporated some of a “hitters” hand action into your own golf swing. For example, I consider Jack Nicklaus as having a golf swing that is about 50% swinger and 50% hitter. Milo, I would most certainly like to applaud your brief description to Brendan describing how you come into impact without using your hands to propel the driver in any type of “forced casting motion,” but just let the club head naturally release out in front of you through impact, which is a classic swinger feel. There are virtually no other golf swing instructors on YT capable of understanding this, let alone describe it. As I was learning to ACCELERATE through impact, I immediately became aware of the different “vibration” I felt the shaft produce. As I became an ACCELERATING “swinger” and now more aware of “shaft flex” than ever before, I soon became that “greedy golfer” who wanted MORE. And that was the driving force that made me ultimately become a 75% “hitter” (25% swinger). The greed of wanting to “hold more shaft flex” into impact, and then of “holding that shaft flex” long after impact. Us “hitters” are a greedy lot for sure, always wanting more shaft flex to hold.
See page 93 in Hogans 5-Lessons. The first full paragraph describes a “swinger” and the second (last) paragraph is where Hogan begins to reveal his hands “hitting” action. Fascinating yet simple stuff by Hogan, but very-very few actually understand what Hogan was attempting to convey. A hobby of mine is to twist arrogant know nothing “Hogan Aficionados” into pretzels….and then laugh hilariously in their face. Yea, I’ve been around since the early 1980’s (Met Section) and learned to loath those arrogant fools, of which there are MANY. I’m sure Jim McLean still remembers me laughing at him at Sleepy Hollow. McLean was an overrated fool then, and I’m sure he’s the exact same overrated fool today.
As a hitter in baseball I never manually tried to hit with the trail arm. I have experimented with every golf swing idea I could find and have found for me any effort to unload the trail arm and wrist drastically slows my swing down and causes poor contact and face control problems.
The centerpiece of the downswing is an aggressive rotation of the left hip in early transition . This results in the lead knee rotating early and weight moving towards the outside of the lead foot
@@davecohn6407 …..You say: “The centerpiece of the downswing is an aggressive rotation of the left hip in early transition.” I say: “That’s utter nonsense.” One of the first things golfers say when they truly begin to enter the realm of ACCELERATION is “wow, the club head feels to move so slow from transition.” And of course the movement of the club head from transition is accomplished by the movement of the left hip, which is also “slow” from transition. I highly doubt you have ever entered the true realm of ACCELERATION.
@@MiloLinesGolf ….Is holding shaft flex a feel you experienced on full swing shots?
@@lookmil107not sure. I’ve heard some prominent coaches talk about the idea but I haven’t seen evidence of anyone actually doing it. I’ve seen hundreds of Swings in 3d showing the shafts bend at every interval of the swing and have yet to see anyone actually hold shaft flex. In every case including Greg Norman and Sergio Garcia, two that are said to hold shaft flex, the shaft was already bent some amount forward at impact.
Milo is very clearly not swinging at it hard and his ball speed in the mid 170s… so sick!!
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Yep it’s really cool. That easy speed had definitely convinced me I should persevere with this method.
Have had good success with irons - driver I’m struggling more with. As Brendan says, you need to trust that the clubface will be good as your turn chest through…
Great stuff
Thanks T!
Really liking the leaving the center of mass back thought while turning Something that I used to do without realizing it when I was playing my best golf. Nice to rediscover it.
Many touring pros are not capable of both fading and drawing the ball consistently , while under pressure .
It is basically a wasteful deception for less talented players to try to develop both a draw and fade .
IF they can consistently draw or fade the ball , they will improve greatly
Crazy ballspeed - just doesn’t look like he’s swinging that hard and carries it 300+… 🤯
Crazy ballspeed? Yeah not really
Sure not objectively ‘crazy’. But to me it doesn’t look like Milo is swinging that hard or fast. And yet produces easy looking 300+ carries.
Is it just me or do the trackman numbers not add up? The last swing for instance with face/path basically matching +5. Shouldn’t that be just a straight push? Also, the swing before where he said it faded, face was -0.6 to path. How does that ball fade with path right and face slightly closed to that? Should be a slight draw? I’m confused…is D plane the difference?
Strike location and attack angle play a roll.
I wondered the same exact thing! Makes you wonder how reliable these launch monitors really are?
@@rm00klol they aren’t. That’s why literally every RUclips golf guy carries their driver over 300.
@1DCCX bro i carry my 8 iron 290 so i dont know what you are saying
@@greatwhite3676if you come take a lesson I’ll gladly demonstrate a few 190+ ball speed drives that carry 330-350.
Milo you're golfing machine 😀. Milo get out of that hot desert and come out east and play some golf let's play bethpage black together!!!! Brandon come on East and do some videos on Long Island New York!!!
Refer to last weeks video . Learn to hit a stand-off iron
I'd be more worried about push-slicing than topping it with the club-head back like that.
You’ll surprise yourself at how straight and far the ball will fly.
Are those loafers or golf shoes?🤪
Dress shoes w rubber bottoms. BORN I think
I love Milo’s swing but every time I try to apply his techniques to my swing it’s destroys my game.
Learning without a little guidance is a real challenge because there are quite a few moving parts to match up. Have you considered a lesson with me or my team? We offer an online academy as well as in person and online options.
If you do not have the mobility in your lead hip, you will never successfully accomplish this swing
327 carry? Wtf
Is Milo’s driver 47 inches?
I’m pretty sure it’s just 45 1/2 nothing very long
45 1/4