The feind really did change people Seth became the messiah Finn became the prince Bryan went bald Miz got so scared the went to the tag division Strowman kind of faded into the background Cena and randy were really the only one who was unscaved
he did return after rollins and riddles match, it could just be that he returned at the end of the show and that happened to be the main event , but maybe there’s a deeper meaning to him returning after that match
I think he's referring to the complexity of The Fiend. The point of him was that he changed the characters of those that he encountered (hence him mentioning Randy and Daniel Bryan). I think Seth wasn't sure how to incorporate that element in his feud with him. Not totally sure if that's what he meant though, because I'm sure he changed to the gimmick he currently has now, which is undoubtedly the hottest of his career thus far.
Undertaker started it way back when people actually believed these gimmicks were real and there was no social media so he was over and established by the time modern times came but by then he was a part timer. Bray has everything working against him because of the times and also him not getting the push he deserves. Undertaker if he started now with the deadman gimmick people would think its ridiculous bray is a genius for getting it over with the fans as much as he has but extreme supernatural gimmicks like bray's don't make make good wrestling matches
@@imrulfarhanpritom6864 not really because if the character is done right then people will be immersed naturally, people know theatrics are a huge part of wrestling. It’s like going to watch movies, people know it’s a movie but when it’s done right they forget and get drawn into the character or it’s settings. Bray definitely has that gift to immerse people so it shouldn’t have been difficult for Seth to remain who he was to make the story play out.
@@scarvello u don’t get drawn into bray, he’s not only unrealistic but illogical, who tf does a bridge in the middle of a fight ur making ur opponent look dumb
I like that version of Seth currently so mich6, his mic work is extremely over I would wait for revisiting bray (even his Twitter being black) and let him do his US Champ run before him crossing path with the new Windham version love both wrestlers can’t wait for what is upcomin all the best Seth !
i get what he saying but at the same time nobody said that about working with characters like boogeyman mankind kevin sullivan taker kane etc. only thing is that bray not a in ring guy he’s a promo guy honestly however if just straight up started brawling more instead of doing sentons and tossing folks i wouldn’t be mad keep the claw submission and possibly use a different strong finisher or change up sister abigail a little bit
Came here after the Pitch Black match at the Rumble. After seeing that and how LA Knight was treated, I see exactly what Seth is saying. The Bray Wyatt character doesn’t help anyone. It kills his opponent’s momentum.
I disagree that Bray killed the beast slayer gimmick. The thing with wwe back then was that they will let a top star stay in the same character until it gets stale. Drew mcintyre, becky (the man) & a few others get kinda boring after a while. Also even if Seth isn't THE GUY he was always THE GUY that Beat THE GUY. The brock Lesnar to Roman Reigns undertaker
People forgett back in the summer of 2014 Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley was white hot he was by far the most popular guy after Daniel Bryan injury He entered a feud with Bray after his blood feud with Seth and that killed Ambrose mommentum and never reached those levels of popularity Little did Seth knew he was going to suffer the same fate as his Shield buddy at the hands of Bray horrible booking lol
To be fair mostly everyone involved. I loved the gimmick but Rollins essentially lost his push. Finn went back to NXT. Alex Bliss is still recovering from the damage it done. This isn’t brays fault to be clear. However the gimmick never really helped anyone. Sure it got Bray over but I don’t think he ever had a problem with that
Its fake. Its always been fake. The main stream knows its fake. Wrestling is closer to action movies than an actual sport. The people who think kayfabe can still exist in the social media era are delusional.
Fun... i dislike Rollins and what he represents! The Style that Guys like him, Omega, Aj Styles,Oasprez,Rhodes,DB,Cole,Theory,Balor and so on represent is what damages Wrestling overall the most! This 45 min matches despite everyone knowing its predetermined is nonsense! Also them shooting 150 finishers per match and selling not one of them doesnt help. It makes people turn off TV! For me, Undertaker, Kane, Shango, Boogeyman, Brood, Rosemary, Su Yung are what sells Wrestling the most! Braz Wzatt is easz the Guz in the 2010s that brought the most new Fans to Wrestling overall! Nobody can deny that! Seth Rollins cant lace a boot of Bray Wyatt! Fiend was better than Rollins AND beckys AND the complete Shields whole careers!
seth is a great wrestler but his character is just stupid, all he does is wear stupid clothes, have a stupid fake laugh. the most over thing about him is his theme song
I do love how honest he was. He put over Wyatt big time towards the end.
Prime Mankind vs The Fiend would have been fun to watch!
Absolutely! Would have loved to see that.
Wrestlings Freddie vs Jason😱
The Fiend vs 97 Kane
Bray eventually returned but the chance to correct that flaw never came as Beau tragically passed. 😔💔
very interesting them having this conversation with the HEAVY Fiend return links spreading at the moment👀
Bro imagine getting the HIAC 2019 script for the first time 😭
Seth...my man! The only reason,for my passion towards WWE...
he needs to learn how to be more safer. dude injures a lot of people
The feind really did change people
Seth became the messiah
Finn became the prince
Bryan went bald
Miz got so scared the went to the tag division
Strowman kind of faded into the background
Cena and randy were really the only one who was unscaved
Randy joined riddle
Cena got some heat for comments he made. He was accused of burying Bray. But, it's Cena, so it didn't do a ton.
And Alexa turned into some kind of monster comedy act.
The Fiend is like a DnD character Bray made him OP
BT Sport letting Ariel live his dream
What interview actors who pretend to be wrestlers????? Some "living the dream" 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ScotsmanGamer What interviewer gets paid to cover MMA, Boxing and now pro wrestling. He’s everywhere. Good for him.
He's a much better fit for WWE than he was for the UFC
Bray Wyatt is back. I'm wondering if he'll be back for Seth.
he did return after rollins and riddles match, it could just be that he returned at the end of the show and that happened to be the main event , but maybe there’s a deeper meaning to him returning after that match
😭😭😭
What’s difficult about a supernatural character? The undertaker and his opponents have adapted easily for many years.
I think he's referring to the complexity of The Fiend. The point of him was that he changed the characters of those that he encountered (hence him mentioning Randy and Daniel Bryan). I think Seth wasn't sure how to incorporate that element in his feud with him.
Not totally sure if that's what he meant though, because I'm sure he changed to the gimmick he currently has now, which is undoubtedly the hottest of his career thus far.
Undertaker started it way back when people actually believed these gimmicks were real and there was no social media so he was over and established by the time modern times came but by then he was a part timer. Bray has everything working against him because of the times and also him not getting the push he deserves. Undertaker if he started now with the deadman gimmick people would think its ridiculous bray is a genius for getting it over with the fans as much as he has but extreme supernatural gimmicks like bray's don't make make good wrestling matches
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@@imrulfarhanpritom6864 not really because if the character is done right then people will be immersed naturally, people know theatrics are a huge part of wrestling. It’s like going to watch movies, people know it’s a movie but when it’s done right they forget and get drawn into the character or it’s settings. Bray definitely has that gift to immerse people so it shouldn’t have been difficult for Seth to remain who he was to make the story play out.
@@scarvello u don’t get drawn into bray, he’s not only unrealistic but illogical, who tf does a bridge in the middle of a fight ur making ur opponent look dumb
Problem was the way the fiend was booked in matches.
I like that version of Seth currently so mich6, his mic work is extremely over I would wait for revisiting bray (even his Twitter being black) and let him do his US Champ run before him crossing path with the new Windham version love both wrestlers can’t wait for what is upcomin all the best Seth !
Bray Wyatt should've been the new Legend Killer 🔥
Seth did black out his twitter profile, with Liv Morgan.
Besides from randy who killed him lol
i get what he saying but at the same time nobody said that about working with characters like boogeyman mankind kevin sullivan taker kane etc. only thing is that bray not a in ring guy he’s a promo guy honestly however if just straight up started brawling more instead of doing sentons and tossing folks i wouldn’t be mad keep the claw submission and possibly use a different strong finisher or change up sister abigail a little bit
They didn’t have red lights while they were wrestling.
@@jaybee4288 lights are just lights 🤷🏾♂️ thats a crazy thing to complain about
That's a stunning jacket
Bray did him a favor, his character after this is so much better
The fans Definitely turned on Seth after Hell in a cell..I understand where he is coming from about it being difficult..
Rollins x Wyatt = "best for business".
Came here after the Pitch Black match at the Rumble.
After seeing that and how LA Knight was treated, I see exactly what Seth is saying.
The Bray Wyatt character doesn’t help anyone. It kills his opponent’s momentum.
White rabbit 🐇 Windham Rotunda - WR
He’s back now so we’ll will find out Sethy boy 😂
I disagree that Bray killed the beast slayer gimmick. The thing with wwe back then was that they will let a top star stay in the same character until it gets stale. Drew mcintyre, becky (the man) & a few others get kinda boring after a while.
Also even if Seth isn't THE GUY he was always THE GUY that Beat THE GUY. The brock Lesnar to Roman Reigns undertaker
People forgett back in the summer of 2014 Dean Ambrose/Jon Moxley was white hot he was by far the most popular guy after Daniel Bryan injury
He entered a feud with Bray after his blood feud with Seth and that killed Ambrose mommentum and never reached those levels of popularity
Little did Seth knew he was going to suffer the same fate as his Shield buddy at the hands of Bray horrible booking lol
The fiend terrorized Seth Rollins forreal thats why
Seth Rollins title run was trash way before he started feuding with Bray
I'd say the person sitting in the chair at Gorilla at the time was far more difficult.
I don't really think anyone struggled with it but Rollins? Like who else
Finn
To be fair mostly everyone involved. I loved the gimmick but Rollins essentially lost his push. Finn went back to NXT. Alex Bliss is still recovering from the damage it done. This isn’t brays fault to be clear. However the gimmick never really helped anyone. Sure it got Bray over but I don’t think he ever had a problem with that
Kayfabe is truly dead hahaha.
Been that way for a long time too.
Thank the Kliq for that lmao
Its fake. Its always been fake. The main stream knows its fake. Wrestling is closer to action movies than an actual sport. The people who think kayfabe can still exist in the social media era are delusional.
@@penguinsinorbit2034 never heard of mjf eh?
@@penguinsinorbit2034 it’s scripted not fake
Re-watching this after Bray took his ball and went home.
Unfortunately. It never came to pass.
Everyone says bray hard to work with
B. A
Who else looked bad
Goldberg ?
Finn Balor
Daniel Bryan
Braun Strowman
Alexa Bliss
Fun... i dislike Rollins and what he represents! The Style that Guys like him, Omega, Aj Styles,Oasprez,Rhodes,DB,Cole,Theory,Balor and so on represent is what damages Wrestling overall the most! This 45 min matches despite everyone knowing its predetermined is nonsense! Also them shooting 150 finishers per match and selling not one of them doesnt help. It makes people turn off TV! For me, Undertaker, Kane, Shango, Boogeyman, Brood, Rosemary, Su Yung are what sells Wrestling the most! Braz Wzatt is easz the Guz in the 2010s that brought the most new Fans to Wrestling overall! Nobody can deny that! Seth Rollins cant lace a boot of Bray Wyatt! Fiend was better than Rollins AND beckys AND the complete Shields whole careers!
seth is a great wrestler but his character is just stupid, all he does is wear stupid clothes, have a stupid fake laugh. the most over thing about him is his theme song
Seth Rollins moaning because Wyatt wouldn't put him over. Blame vince Mcmahon for it.
The opposite, he wanted bray to go over
Seth is better than bray Wyatt at anything 😂 bray probably only has seth on his creativity