The Sopranos and Masculinity - Soprano Theories
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I know Vito’s bottom was impacted if that’s what your referring to?
*muscular oiled up body builders on screen*
uncle philly: TURN THAT OFF!
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knock it off with the massage shit, this is a place of business not a jack la lane
@@thebaconator.3867 actually hilarious. They’re talking about someone who’s perceived to be masculine for coming out despite being a gangster who’s murdered his relative Jackie Junior. And then there’s these big macho men on television who are viewed as the definition of manliness.
Whatever happened there…
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about Furio, he was the embodiment of the “Strong and Silent type.”
You've got a bee on your hat
It wasn’t an act for him like the others
"I hate the North."
Give me one thousand dollars
I hate the facking north!
The fact that people STILL think that The Sopranos glorifies mob life is moronic.
I don’t know if they think the show does so much as they do themselves, those kind of people definitely aren’t analysing or considering what they’re watching.
The only people who think that have not watched it
That’s actually a illusion. In every mob movie it actually demonstrates the charisma of the gangsters and they seem very cunning, which makes them dangerous.
id take that life over mine atm. its maybe kinda sad but our age of confusion and acceptance of weakness is kinda bothering me.
Its the same way people think Tony Montana is someone worthy of admiration.
Obviously it's funny that Phil Leotardo emerged "Out of the Closet" to murder Vito.
Kinda funny though when you think about it. Like how long was he waiting in that closet for vito to stroll in and what was his explanation in waiting in the closet when his guys asked
I think Phil compromised with more than just tissues for 20 years.
@@CTuna-uo3pq lol, Charlie!!
20 mins in da closet without a peep.
Some people believe he was romantically involved with Vito.
Ritchie was the ultimate irony. He acted so macho and tough but he died at the hands of a woman. I'm not saying he wasn't tough, it took Furio and Chris nearly 20 minutes to chop him up, after all.
Yeah he was toughest guy in Essex county, But he never came back when Janice got through with him.
His own son was gay lol. I know it was said that Richie disowned him but I don’t think he did personally.
And his son was a gay ballroom dancer to boot
If he was still alive with Chris, New York would eat dirt in that war
That was a tough meat roll!
[SPOILERS]
It's really interesting how Tony always talks about Gary Cooper. It's clear to the audience that Tony has created his ideas about masculinity and male identity based off of what he has seen on tv and in the movies. Yet there's a scene late in the series when, after AJ attempts to kill Junior in revenge for shooting Tony, AJ cites the scene in The Godfather where Michael Corleone kills Sollozzo and McCluskey for attempting to kill Michael's father, Vito Corleone. AJ calls Tony a hypocrite, since this scene is Tony's favorite movie scene of all time. Yet Tony responds "It's just a movie. You gotta grow up". Another example of the double standard Tony has between himself and AJ, and his lack of self-awareness about his own identity.
Through out the entire series no one ever figured out what happened to Gary cooper, biggest cliffhanger ever
he was gay
“Ehh he died” - sil
Gary Cooper was born on a ranch in Montana. His parents didn't even own the ranch.
Gary Cooper was hiding under the table when Ritchie got shot.
He ate radiator grilled cheese cradled in stiff tissue. The trauma end the silence.
A perfect example of how men are judged in the show is when Tony beats up "Muscles Marinara" to prove that he's still an alpha male after being shot by uncle Jun.
Exactly
That’s how gangstas are. Wether in the streets or prison. Other killers aren’t going to follow or respect you if you’re not willing to get your own hands dirty every now and then
@@Ah-ws9nm That's also how Mafioso's tended to get whacked faster than they needed to, so it's dangerous to think that
@@Mebble it is dangerous you’re right. But you’re dealing with dangerous people. In order to gain respect from a killer you have to prove you’re nothing to mess with.
@@Ah-ws9nm nah, this is what got Tony killed. By the end of the show, all of his friends are either gone or have turned into enemies. There are so many ppl who have legit beefs with him that you could never guess who's coming for retribution.
I always felt Tony was one of the only guys besides patsy who really didn’t care if Vito was gay. I think he put on that front because he had to with his environment and also being a boss, his guys would loose respect for him if he didn’t do something especially with New York down their necks. We even se when Tony is talking to Melfi he says “ who gives a shit. I got a second chance why shouldn’t he”. And I think Tony genuinely fells that way but would totally still make fun of Vito in front of his guys just to maintain that masculine image. Someone like Tony only ever really cared about the money and with Vito being a top earner he would turn a blind eye to it as long as Vito continued to kick up. I’m not saying Tony was some ahead of his time progressive mafioso but rather an opportunist who ultimately cared about business over anything else.
HEH maybe you're a flambe
@@JAF2991 only in privateee. I wish I could come out of the closet like the Sha of Iran did.
Seem like Bobby didn't either. He started the conversation by recommending they just kick him out of their "social club".
Money speaks. When Vito is a good earner, That is ultimately what is the most important.
Tony didn’t care because Vito was a top earner at the time. If he wasn’t, Tony wouldn’t have hesitated. He knows deep down how that makes his family look weak in the streets especially because Vito wasn’t just some associate or soldier
Phil leotardo did his time like a man thats sayin something
He did 20 years in the can but never mentioned it
He did eat grilled cheese off the radiator and did mention about his relationship with a tissue.
@@SopranoTheories the ole Phil Leotardo 'compromise'
Not a peep
Just to protect people like Doc Santoro and Rusty Milo
Vito did 20 minutes in Johnny Cakes can
This channel has tremendous moxie for its size
He’s a fighter
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
That's nice..and then what? He gets striked, borko couldn't even wear his shoes.
@@Sernival I'm in awre of you.
Sopranos theories had the toughest reputation in Essex County.
Hypocrisy is the biggest thing in this show for me, from Tony and the rest of the guys constantly practicing what they preach to this whole facade of respect, honor, loyalty when in reality it's just dog eat dog within their own people lmao. David chase shows this very well within italian americans, and he fleshes it out so well on how the mafia truly is in reality, there's No honor or love it's just about money.
One of the things sticks out to me is Carmela..she makes judements on others but she benefits off of tonys dirty work yet tries to find peace through the church ...also some of the scenes when race is used ..loke the black guys stealing the benz while tony orofits off of it also when tony says to meadow when she has her bike stolen
also the fact that with all the drugs ,crime ,domestic abuse etc yet boy liking boy is when they'll point to the bible
@@lalk3434 exavtly that scene of tony always being racist towards Noah lmao like right tony as if you dont steal, kill and hurt your own people out of their hard earned money and honest living lmao what a hypocritical scumbag and not to mention american italians arent considered real italians by Real italians.
lal carter What I've noticed rewatching is Carm is every bit as vindictive & petty as the mother. Just like Tony they can't bear it if someone does well or has joy.
@@skxlter5747 So healthy to read comments like yours, when we live in societies where the general public take these low lives mafia scumbags as role models. The irony is, the people who worship and glorify criminals, are the very people who are designated to become preys to criminals....
Never forget, true masculinity is having the making of a varsity athlete.
Even when Vito knew the rest of the crew knew about his sexuality and was living his domestic life in New Hampshire he literally could not help himself and went back to the family because he didn’t know how to live without it.
Vito never came out as gay,he was outed.
exactly
Poor Finn. Good kid. Meadow forced his hand.
In fact he even offered to get a note from his doctor
@@shreddykrueger3776 it’s a great irony for Meadow’s character. Progressive college student but forces Finn to out Vito knowing that something bad would happen to him as a result. Mini Carmela
@@BlueSkullFish Meadow is interesting to me for how in every argument with Tony during the period where they're fighting over her wanting to go to Europe she immediately throws him being in the mob in his face, yet with Finn she acts offended when he takes issue with the mob stuff (when he was upset at seeing the guy get bottled and having his head kicked in and she basically just talked down to him). It's like she recognises it's bad but doesn't actually care
You're undoubtedly the wisest of the new Sopranos analysis guys. A lot of guys shy away from topics for fear of revealing reactionary opinions stemming from discomfort with the actual messages and explorations of the series. I really appreciate your videos and always enjoy listening to what you have to say. Much love :)
Tony is absolutely not the strong silent type who quietly does what needs to be done without emotion influencing it, he’s more of the explosively angry and vengeful type who impulsively acts on emotion most of the time lol
Borderline like his mother?
A PureKino and Soprano Theories upload the same day.
Based
I know; it's a great day!
LoL, same thought
@@XYZ-ds4jg What's this the FUCKIN' U.N. NOW!?!!
Bobby beat his ass that time and couldn't get over it.
Carmela jumping on Ton's back . . fing women sometimes and their 'help'
They fought like two grizzlies bears or like two gorillas.. it was funny af! 😄
Nah he did tho and made him a captain
I know it’s been said so many times but the Sopranos really is a masterpiece. It delves into so many topics. Family, love, toxic masculinity, mental illness, depression, anxiety, homosexuality, adultery, addiction, loneliness, divorce, suicide. Even the food is it’s own character in the show. It’s signifies family and bringing people together to eat. Such an amazing show. The like we’ll never see again.
“Vito was gay the whole time.”
-JK Rowling
hahahahaha
Very obvious now!!!!
Vito wasn't even Vito the whole time.
-Gino
@@hristiyanhristov2480 he was in the cake shop!! Lol
He wasn't gay he could get a note from his doctor
I didn’t realize Tony’s fascination with Gary cooper.
He was gay, Gary Cooper?
He died of lou gerrigs disease!
GARY COOOPAAHHH!!!!
Ridiculous. Strong, silent type smoked 3 packs of non-filtered.
He mentioned him less than Phil did about doing 20 years
Don’t forget Tony is a strict catholic!
Whatever happened to Borko? The strong silent Sopranos channel.
this grifter was paid to replace him while lisping about masculinity
They buried him on a hill overlooking a river with pine trees all around
Borko thinks the world of you
He's with his goomah
He's with the luggage.
The Sopranos was just a low key series about finding out what happened to Gary Cooper.
He died...
I love how those macho guy kiss each other cheek when they meet.
Tony: where's my masculinity?
Paulie: with the luggage
Shinebox*
TL;DR for the "I skip Melfi scenes" stunads, this video isn't for you.
Why on earth would anyone do that
Skip the psychoanalysis scenes, I mean.
@@dewilew2137 because they don’t like it when big mafia man actually shows some weakness
@@fabioribeiro3388 Fr, without that narrative device in the pilot, the contemplative style of storytelling in the show might have never fully reached the ambiguous depth we see through her scenes thematically.
The mafia is extremely predatory, even to it's own members. But the reason why they reacted towards Johnny Sack the way they did wasn't because they viewed him as weak, rather they began to distrust him and his commitment to the Mafia, it showed that he cared more about his family than his other family and may flip for them. He does break silence and admits to the existence of the mafia to prevent further hardships on his family. This is similar to the real reason why Tony killed Chris, he feared he would put his family before his other family, he asked the boss to take the driver seat and say he crashed the car.
My estimation of Borko as a RUclips channel, just fuckin plummeted.
You talking to the boss of this family.
Where the fuck do you get off questioning Borko's leadership?
You better hope word of this doesn't get back to the boss (borko
Even purekino didn't cry!!
True masculinity is achieved through virtuous actions, discipline and self knowledge. Essentially it is character integration and growth. The problem with the characters in the Sopranos is that they want to have these traits but they are unable to learn and grow.
Patsy was the only one that didn't care about Vito. I guess he was the more masculine one.
Tony did not care either, but he did not go along , he could hot wacked himself
Maybe your a flambe
Tony only didn’t care cause Vito was a good earner. Tony would have whacked Vito himself if he was earning like Carlo while also being a flambé.
you're forgetting when Patsy totally flipped and bashed little Paulie in the face with a snapple bottle after Paulie made a gay joke lol
@@somerville77 That was Eugane
You hear the one about the Chinese Godfather? He made them an offer they couldn’t understand.
😂
I heard he drives a Lincoln Continental
@@jayr3381 I thought I had a cataract?
@@jayr3381 Rincoln
I get it. He drives a Lincoln.
Funny moment when the bodybuilders come on TV, and Phil exclaims, "turn that off!"
Excellent scene 🤣🤣
“He was a good man”
“I know, I loved him like a brother in law”
😅
When I think about what it means to be the strong and silent type , I think about that scene in Saving Private Ryan. The one where Tom Hanks is suffering from shell shock , and Tom Sizemore interrupts his moment of suffering. That’s what I envision on what it means to be the strong and silent type. You end up suffering alone .
Whenever he talked about greasing the union who knew that's what he meant 😏
Furio and Bobby are the only main characters I can think of that didn't struggle with masculinity.
And Patsy.
Gary Cooper was my favorite strong, silent type character on the show. Wish they had done more with him.
I liked the Vito/Johnny Cakes storyline. He found a man to love him but can't deal with a mundane life. Instead chooses death.
I remember he says 'I can't live without my kids' and he answers ''FUCK THAT it was the life u couldn't live without"
@@ryancarroll5488 That's when he called him from the motel. A bit before that he was working that carpentry job and sleeping on the clock. All those no work jobs, then to be a working stiff. I bet he felt as low as he could get.
He knew they were going to kill him and still went back. Idiot.
He was looking for Amanda Hugginkiss.
"Uncle June's in the muff" that fuckin line was amazing
A true bushman of the Kalahari.
Short sweet n to the point. Classic Sopranos
Coach Hauser should move to AC and run for mayor. Feel like he could do quite well
Hopefully he’ll be safe from that animal blundetto
He works on the docks in Baltimore
"Nucky Thompson doesn't rule AC, I do!" Everyone: 🤣🤣
LOLOL
The thing I find most interesting is the adultery. It's considered bizarre if a made man DOESN'T have someone on the side (Bobby, Johnny Sack), and there's a strong double standard in the Mafia, as shown when Tony beats up the boyfriend of Irina (even though Tony broke up with her) and later, putting a hit on Furio for merely having a crush on Carmella.
Also, the fact that Vito's wife was only devasting when she found out he was gay but didn't care that he was seeing other women.
To get as much action as possible is manly but to get cucked is the ultimate attack on their masculinity.
This has to be one of your best videos to date, well done.
Paulie laughing while watching Three's Company was the best.
Vito was absolutely one of the most tragic characters in the series.
No, he was a scumbag.
HE WAS GAY😂
At 10:13 Vito didn't COME OUT, he was FOUND OUT.
I'm not splitting hairs (tee hee no pun intended), there's a BIG difference.
Agreed, because there's a point where Tony says Vito shouldve just kept his gay life private, to which Silvio replied "didn't he?"
@@jbennett87 he dident
Vito wasn’t exactly trying to hide it…he was being the opposite of discrete…he was being quite blatant and not hiding at all. He was blowing a guy in broad daylight for Christ sake, at the job site, no less.
@@OdintheGermanShepherd To be fair to Vito it was at the crack of dawn not broad daylight but still he could have been a bit more discreet; maybe being in public made it all the more "exciting".
@@KC______ LOLOL no doubt!!
I just love your content sir and i wish you gain 100x more subs at least. Something in the way you bind the sacred with the propane that hits the right spot
actually phil was gonna let it go , but his wife didnt shut up about it lol
I find it interesting that this is one of those subjects about the show that the fanbase dislike discussing. Nothing will rile up the conversation than bringing up the show's commentary on toxic masculinity, hypocrisy of these characters, or mental health in the 21st century.
It depends heavily on how you frame the discussion, often when people use the term "toxic masculinity" they're referring to the concept of masculinity itself being inherently toxic, rather than just the negative elements of masculinity.
There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity". Both men and women can act 'toxic", "toxicity" isnt specific to being a man. Maybe the fanbase doesn't like discussing these topics because people like you refer to an entire gender as "toxic" simply for being male.
@@captainweekend5276 this is a good distinction. The sopranos crew obviously exemplify toxic aspects of masculinity, which is an outward manifestation of being insecure in their own masculinities. We all know that men that are usually the most respectable are the ones that care for others, and themselves as well. These gangsters almost are a caricature of masculinity, as if they read about masculinity online and tried to act like that. It’s the inward insecurity that poisons their outward appearance; inward security manifests itself into a true man.
@@amersalha4743 If you and "people like you" think that condemning toxic masculinity is akin to "refer[ring] to an entire gender as 'toxic' simply for being male," then you have completely missed the point. Obviously men and women can both be toxic. No one worth taking seriously argues otherwise. The point-one that many men appear absolutely determined to avoid, seemingly out of insecurity toward how their own behavior is perceived in modern society-is that traditional gender roles both encourage and justify toxic behavior in men: callousness, pride, violence, lust for dominance and power over others (especially women), detrimental self-reliance, etc. It's fine enough to say that adherence to traditional gender roles produces toxic behavior in women as well. Many of the people that it seems you're writing off as men-haters have written extensively on that subject; many more actively support women being both more self-deterministic (i.e. without needing to conform to gender stereotypes) AND being less toxic. But that isn't what this conversation is about.
@@amersalha4743 exactly!
i love the sopranos so much, they explore the absurdity of the crew by showing how they think being tough, fighting, fucking, killing, multiple girlfriends, expensive clothes, cars, language, and all the other overly ''manly'' things stereotypical men think make them manly, nothing more emphasizes it when phil kills vito for being gay, but phil comes out of the closet hiding in his room to kill him!!
Phil coming out of the closet was precisely his point.
But those things are Manly
Those things DO make men, manly!
@Black Batman no they’re not manly it’s degenerate behavior being manly is about being a man with respect grace and care whatever that is to you aslong it’s not destructive killing people like a sociopath is not manly having multiple wives is not manly either
@@iwillgowiththatcat8667 being a man is strong family values, protecting women and children, being faithful to your partner, fighting for what is the morally right thing to do, providing, in the sopranos they have a warped sense of doing these things, mixed with horrible acts
Good commentary in this segment, thank you.
“Tony is a weak male that struggles with his mental health “ damn.
He beat up a younger dude with muscles. Dont think hes to weak
@@trav2190 He sucker punched him but yes he did got the upper hand but don't forget bobby kicked his ass to after sucker punching him first.
@@trav2190 I honestly think ol boy kinda let Tony beat his ass but yeah Bobby definitely got on him
And he doesn't have the makings of a varsity athlete to boot
During a sit down with Johnny Sack, Phil Leotardo draws the ire of Tony when Phil calls him "kid". Tony isn't exactly the "boss" everyone thinks he is, when his gambling losses forces him to borrow money from Hesch. You see his resentment when Hesch pays a visit to the pork store and Tony makes a big deal about paying the vig.
4:33 I really wished you put the scene with the pie/cake in there lol
“Vito’s a real come from behind kind of guy.”
another great video, thank you !
Great video; another good addition could have been Tony's toxically masculine effect on AJ, always trying to "toughen him up" when he was actually a sensitive and depressive kid. When Junior shot Tony, AJ tried to mimic his father and tried to whack junior, leading to AJ almost being arrested for attempted first degree murder and then breaking down crying in the parking lot of the (EDIT: police station). Finally, after AJ is starting to show his emotions, Tony yells at him to stop crying, which is just about the worst thing you can do when you are that upset. His fixation with staying silent and keeping all your sadness inside almost resulted in AJ's death
It was the police station
AJ was alive
If Tony doesn't die in the end then you can bet A.J. is living on a time limit. He's bottomed out of all surrogate children to kill, so you can guess who's coming up next.
If Tony's impact on AJ is "toxically masculine", is Lidia's effect on Tony then "toxically feminine?". Not to mention Carmela's on her children, given how blatant her (and all the mafia wives') hypocrisy is.
@@mechantl0up idk why you deleted your comment but yes, you're right. Livia is arguably even worse than Tony as she manipulates others to get their hands bloody for her.
the bottom line Rocko DeMeo had the reputation as the toughest guy in Essex County
but did he have a swing like Joe D
Fantastic job. Great work. Borko should be shaking in his boots.
Yes!!!! Hey, I said it elsewhere, you should totally do the patreon thing!! I love you & Pure Kino's work on breaking down the series.
The way pure kino makes videos is all fucked up. There’s no swipes, no metaphors. Either it has meaning or no meaning.
@@hectorsanchez1377 yeah, I can see that
I’ve always wondered how long Phil was standing in that closet in the dark lmao
It's wasn't 20 years or we would have heard about it.
@@CTuna-uo3pq LOL
It's okay, he had his shinebox to keep him occupied.
Just because you have a group of men around you doesn't mean your not alone. Tony has been alone since he became boss.
You forgot to include Johnny Sack crying at the wedding and Phil remark about it.
“Gary Cooper was gay?” - Chrissy
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Gary Koopa is my favorite SM64 enemy.
Whatever happened to Gary Koopa?
Anyone else notice Phil Leotardo literally “coming out of the closet” before murdering Vito at 10:00?
Once a year? Tony was practicing, Junior went varsity.
real great video man, keep them comin
Batman and the mob have the same rules about eating sushi 🍣
The stupidest part of the Sopranos 'masculinity' was the shit they gave Junior for being in the muff 🤣
🎶South of the borderrrrr, where the tuna fish playyyy!🎶
Just love this channel
This video is fantastic!
Phil's closeted Homosexuality Theory could be another video, I disagree it was about worrying about what others thought, I think things went on in prison. Remember, Phil spent years in the can and not a fucking peep.
He's probably killed someone to keep him or put fear into anyone else to keep them quiet
…….. he compromised.
I like to think he hid in the closet as a way to mock Vito’s sexuality.
Phil's is coming out the shinebox
Interesting analysis, though I think the term “fragile sense of masculinity” rather than simply “fragile masculinity” is more apt. To me masculinity is a state of becoming, you either fully embody its traits, or you have a tenuous grip on them. The negative sides of masculinity and femininity are frequently explored throughout the series, though as a show about the mob it more often focuses on how it relates to the men and their sense of masculinity or machismo.
Congrats on 10k subs! Happy to see more people are finding you
God you uploading is my favorite time of the week 😩
I laughed when Tony said “whatever happened to Gary Cooper, the strong silent type” because he is totally oblivious to the fact that while he admonished people for their lack of manliness, he himself goes to the shrink, is depressed, and has all sorts of demons that he can’t escape from. It’s totally pot calling the kettle black
I just read Cooper's wikipedia entry. He was not what Tony would have liked or aspired to be in real life. Aside from the classical snooty English boarding school education there is this:
"Cooper biographers have explored his friendship in the late twenties with the actor Anderson Lawler, with whom Cooper shared a house on and off for a year, while at the same time seeing Clara Bow, Evelyn Brent and Lupe Vélez.[328][329][330][331] Lupe Vélez once told Hedda Hopper of Vélez' affair with Cooper; whenever he would come home after seeing Lawler, she would sniff for Lawler's cologne.[332] Vélez' biographer Michelle Vogel has reported that Vélez consented to Cooper's sexual behavior with Lawler, but only as long as she, too, could participate."
Christopher brought up Gary Cooper as gay in the end of Columbus , and Tony was piss
Trying to keep up with all the examples of hypocrisy in the Sopranos characters is exhausting.
Love these vids
It’s funny how Phil killed Vito for being gay, but when he reveals himself in the scene he comes out the closet
That was the point showing Vito, his brother in law, that he knows his secret.
very allegorical
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The Sopranos
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3 greatest television series of all time.
The wire?
@@amarevanhook7453 my top 3
Vito wasn’t gay… it was the medication for his blood pressure
His doctor wrote him a note
That was really good
Definitely the greatest show ever. I’ve watched everything, Breaking bad Second. Boardwalk empire is pretty good, Game of thrones could’ve went on and been good for so many more seasons and ended properly if they would’ve followed the books and put in the work and time.
I watch half of the first season and it’s okay didn’t seem as good as people say
Be prepared to go to war with the Borko faction.
That pigmy thing
Wow you, Worm's Hole, then Pure Kino uploading Soparanos videos all in the same week. I love it.
Always look forward to ur vids
I have never once in my life heard masculinity referred to as "manly-Hood"
But I'm going to say that from now on
Also known as a "foreskin"
When Phil kills Vito, he literally comes out of the closet to surprise Vito in the hotel room to kill him. I always found it odd that he enjoys watching Vito being beaten to death and the way that scene was directed focuses on Phil’s reaction, the way he squeezes the bed with his hand as the bats beat Vito to death, hit to the head after hit to the head. Phil is so homophobic, but really enjoys this up close and personal death of Vito in this scene.
It just shows how sadistic Phil is.
It's because he eat grilled cheese off a radiator, but doesn't like to talk about it.
Because Phil is old school and spent so much time in prison. And Vito was apart if his extended family thru marriage. Phil felt Vito’s lifestyle was disrespecting his family tree
You hit it head-on, kudos!
I love this channel
There's nothing that says "homorsexual" like a man going down on a woman. One of the interesting beats in Vito's story is that Tony's crew was upset when they learned from Finn that Vito was homosexual, but they still imagined that Finn had seen him receiving fellatio. When Finn corrected them and said Vito was performing fellatio on another guy, that was so much *worse* and got them more upset than imagining Vito merely receiving it.
Yeah its more the concept of going down on someone is bad regardless if its a man or woman
@Lucas 2000 it's especially worse if it's a guy though. It's based off the prison system where there's the submissive guy who gets screwed (anally and oral) and they're considered "the bi**h" while the guy who is doing it to them is given a pass because "there's no women in prison so they gotta do what they gotta do".
In their eyes, going down on a girl is one thing, you'll get teased and humiliated but people won't be overtly hostile over it. All Junior had to do was cut ties with the girl and everyone moved on from it. Being a guy going down on a guy, ontop of not being in prison, meaning you have total access to women, is viewed as being an utter disgrace, a "fa**ot" who is the complete antithesis of a "manly man". There's no going back at this point for the guy, his reputation is tarnished and people will outright refuse to associate with him for life, or worse try to attack him for it
Pitching not receiving
captain of what, the good ship lollipop?
Amazing channel
To be fair, maybe all of that homosexual Italian kissing might have made everyone confused, and Vito said “ahhh, screw it!”
Whatever happened to Borko?
They made him an offer he couldn't understand
Livia Soprano was probably the most masculine of all of them in the end, at least according to their man code. Always wondered how her character arch would have played out.
The tiny gun just gets me everytime I see it. Like who the heck decided to leave that.
Phil loved Vito like a brother-in-law.