Played "That Guy" at a large tournament here back in the Fall, he brought a Tank company. 5 Ho-ro self propelled heavy artillery vehicles and 60 inexperienced spear troops. Most broken thing I have seen in Bolt Action. Most standard lists dont have the firepower to deal with both. Even worse, only 14 Ho-Ros were ever built and were never used in combat. Sure the spear dudes drop like flies, but you are dealing with 5 heavy artillery pieces too and you cannot pin the spear guys down.
I'm listening to this with a massive smile on my face. The Mornian Glory tactics treatment for bolt action, I've been banging on about this game for years! I'm only one minute in but I'm predicting the realisation that shooty Japanese are really good because of the universal fanatics rule...
@David Vilorio Baraja Hilarious. I don't blame him. The whole British airborne starter army costs the same as a box of Ogryn. So theirs that going for BA.
I have found knee mortars to be very useful for Japanese banzai, but not as damage dealers. Use them to spam smoke. Ideally try to screen your units from thier heavy fire or block off a whole flank allowing you to concentrate on half if your oppanant army. I am experimenting with the right number of knee mortars still but 1 squad of grenadiers with three has been invaluable so far
I’m so glad you are covering BA. It’s so niche but it’s so much more affordable! And WG is more of a team player. Even recommending their competitors if they don’t cover certain models. Can’t wait to see you cover more factions. Japs where my first, hope to get Italy soon, have yet to field my USMC and Soviets but Covid gives me plenty of time to finish the boys up.
Love this! It’s a great idea! Long live Warlord Wednesday! As always great stuff Mordian. You are the champagne of unsung game systems and underused factions. I want to get a minor faction to start. Do you know if they make Romanians, Hungarians or Finnish models? Edited for gramma
Warlord games makes Summer Finnish but we're still waiting on the other 2 from warlord games. But you can find other suppliers of the other 2 nations or use German plastic and convert them with different heads etc.
@@stepheningram6415 to begin with aim for upto 2 of each weapon team at most as normally you won't want too many in a Finnish army. There rifle infantry is good at anti infantry so you need more AT options to cover your good small arms anti infantry firepower.
That’s good advice. But, I’m still buying 4 snipers cause it’s Finns and snipers are cool😂 But, seriously I’m going to grab 2 machine guns, 2 mortars and 4 snipers but, this is just for fun/modeling and setups in my study. What are viable AT options. *edited*
Oh man, this is perfect. I subscribed for the guard, but I just got a box of Imperial Japanese Infantry for Christmas wanting to get into Bolt Action as well.
i hope the views dont really change what you lobe and what you choose to do becasue i enjoy both and i would stay with your channel to be what i know or can hear you say that you enjoy as a part of why i watch your channel personnely
Tactics to beat the Japanese... Hold back, use the overwatch order when ever it looks like you're going to be the victim of a banzai charge. Better to have multiple sources of overwatch, for example with my US Army force I have a special rule that allows me to take multiple medium machine guns, typically they're not very point efficient (very rare in bolt action) but I like to take three of them at inexperienced level. This is the perfect sort of unit to keep back, use its range, so when that banzai charge comes in two or three sources of fire hit them in the open. Alternatively double light machine gun squads dug into hardcover are pretty good as well. High explosive is universally powerful but also very potent against thin Japanese armour and blobs of infantry, so motorised artillery, regular artillery, and mortars are essential for whittling down the Imperial horde. Always take spotters on your artillery pieces. If Mr Mordian glory wants to hide his assault troops in hardcover near an objective, have multiple sources of indirect fire to blow them to pieces. A gamy tactic is using forward deploying troops to mess with banzai orders, units like snipers, scouts, or russian anti-tank teams. Almost every army has something that can do this. The Japanese can only use the banzai move rule as long as it's against the closest enemy unit, if that unit is hiding in a tower in the middle of the board the japs have to do take order tests like anybody else if they want to attack your main lines.
Other thing is flamethrowers at least vehicle wise as my OT-34/85 destroyed 2 squads with the hull flamethrower and a HE round from it's 85mm. Lets just say after that I was able to use the tank as a sort of heavy bunker right at the objective marker and be able to send my veteran assault engineers to hold it. I was able to hold 2 of the three objectives the one I lost was when the Japanese player was able to lob 2 heavy artillery rounds in and so take out my 2 rifle squads there and have it open for his squads to come in.
@@ChrisS-fh7zt I have mixed luck with flamethrowers in BA, the amount of times I wiff and then just run out of fuel! But I reckon they've a physiological effect way above the actual damage they do. Everyone remembers that one game your flame thrower team toasted 30 guys, but not the following five when they do dick all. How many points was the game? A OT-34/85 is a big chunk of points, it's nice when expensive armour can win a game.
@@dannyhalas9408 A OT-34/85 is 275 points Regular that is cheaper than my other 2 tanks that I got for my Soviets the KV-2 is 345 points and my KV-8 is 375 points Regular. But what makes Flamers devastating is that if a unit that gets hit by them fail their morale roll they are gone doesn't matter if they are fanatics or not. Hence why I try to at least send enough pins out so as to have a high chance of that happening. The squad that I hit with the flamethrower had 3 pins and the one with HE had 4 and both being regular they had to roll a really low number. The 4 one was a roll of 5 and the 3 one was a roll of 6 to pass also I took half his number down with the 85mm cannon hit. This is why I prefer vehicle flamethrowers over infantry as they sort of able to at least shrug off small arms fire plus they have an extra 6 inch reach over their infantry counterparts.
Longbeard moment… don’t play Bolt Action but the automatic double ones of the Banzai charge harkens back to the old Insane Bravery (Double 1’s) and Craven Cowardice (Double 6s on a morale test where you had to roll under your Ld characteristic) rules from 40k 2nd Edition. Which make sense as you said the Warlord guys were old GW guys.
How much does, "Early vs Mid vs Late War" kinda stuff limit who you can play against in your experience? Have you tried Konflikt 47? I was looking at the BA stuff and saw it listed as well.
Just starting to get into bolt action, split the idland assault box and got the japanese half, this is very useful. Probably going to have to pick up a Ha-Go and an armoured car now lol
Some mates and I were talking about building some “northern China,” IJA v SU themed armies. We’ve dabbled a little in BA but are amateurs at best. Does the game still function well if we went a little armor heavy, point wise? ( trying to keep the army comp similar to the actual Khalkan Gol theme) Cheers!
you should look into The Finnish army. lots of ambush tactics and instead of boshito, the fins use Sisu. The finnish can advance and if they didn't shoot turn there dice to ambush( units that have the master hunt rule, also any unit with a rife, including sniper rifle + 1 to hit when using ambush) (its also a very infantry heavy army, lots of small arms and few field guns. I think they only have like 3 tanks that aren't captured tech.)
Just commenting loads to help the algorithm so he makes more... But a taking a 1st lieutenant as a Japanese player seems strange, the 2+ bonus to order checks is wasted when you can banzai up the board, is 75pts really worth it for an extra snap too? The Germans get a free snap too baked in and I don't find it that important when I play them, but I prefer a more reactive play style.
Played "That Guy" at a large tournament here back in the Fall, he brought a Tank company. 5 Ho-ro self propelled heavy artillery vehicles and 60 inexperienced spear troops. Most broken thing I have seen in Bolt Action. Most standard lists dont have the firepower to deal with both. Even worse, only 14 Ho-Ros were ever built and were never used in combat. Sure the spear dudes drop like flies, but you are dealing with 5 heavy artillery pieces too and you cannot pin the spear guys down.
I'm listening to this with a massive smile on my face. The Mornian Glory tactics treatment for bolt action, I've been banging on about this game for years! I'm only one minute in but I'm predicting the realisation that shooty Japanese are really good because of the universal fanatics rule...
I feel exactly the same mate.
@@ModellingforAdvantage I love listening to y'alls videos on my lunch break!
Big fan of bolt action, shame so few people around where I live play so my British mostly sit there looking sharp
I had the same problem, so painted up too armies and targeted the weak prey... The players with old codxes who can't win a game!
@David Vilorio Baraja Hilarious. I don't blame him. The whole British airborne starter army costs the same as a box of Ogryn. So theirs that going for BA.
Great move. Welcome to the Bolt Action scene. It is our favourite game.
You always find the class RUclips videos Kaiser :) When are we going to see you smash Johnny again in a bolt action bat rep?
@@dannyhalas9408 as soon as I finish some new scenery... always try to bring something new.
I have found knee mortars to be very useful for Japanese banzai, but not as damage dealers. Use them to spam smoke. Ideally try to screen your units from thier heavy fire or block off a whole flank allowing you to concentrate on half if your oppanant army. I am experimenting with the right number of knee mortars still but 1 squad of grenadiers with three has been invaluable so far
I’m so glad you are covering BA. It’s so niche but it’s so much more affordable! And WG is more of a team player. Even recommending their competitors if they don’t cover certain models.
Can’t wait to see you cover more factions. Japs where my first, hope to get Italy soon, have yet to field my USMC and Soviets but Covid gives me plenty of time to finish the boys up.
You mentioned in one of your previous videos that the color scheme wasn't totally accurate historically, but regardless it's nicely done.
Love this! It’s a great idea! Long live Warlord Wednesday! As always great stuff Mordian. You are the champagne of unsung game systems and underused factions. I want to get a minor faction to start. Do you know if they make Romanians, Hungarians or Finnish models? Edited for gramma
Warlord games makes Summer Finnish but we're still waiting on the other 2 from warlord games.
But you can find other suppliers of the other 2 nations or use German plastic and convert them with different heads etc.
I’m thinking Finns then! Lots of snipers, lots of mortars lots of machine gun emplacements.
@@stepheningram6415 to begin with aim for upto 2 of each weapon team at most as normally you won't want too many in a Finnish army.
There rifle infantry is good at anti infantry so you need more AT options to cover your good small arms anti infantry firepower.
@@stepheningram6415 I've 3 including Simo Häyhä for my Finn's.
That’s good advice. But, I’m still buying 4 snipers cause it’s Finns and snipers are cool😂 But, seriously I’m going to grab 2 machine guns, 2 mortars and 4 snipers but, this is just for fun/modeling and setups in my study. What are viable AT options. *edited*
Really getting into bolt action so happy to hear any tactical recommendations from you! Any chance we can see some USMC tactics down the line?
Finally, bolt action tactics videos! The other channels don't hold a candle to your content
For the Emperor! Banzai!
Give "The Juggernaut Podcast" a listen.
They focus on competitive bolt action events and faction breakdown.
Oh man, this is perfect. I subscribed for the guard, but I just got a box of Imperial Japanese Infantry for Christmas wanting to get into Bolt Action as well.
i hope the views dont really change what you lobe and what you choose to do becasue i enjoy both and i would stay with your channel to be what i know or can hear you say that you enjoy as a part of why i watch your channel personnely
Tactics to beat the Japanese... Hold back, use the overwatch order when ever it looks like you're going to be the victim of a banzai charge. Better to have multiple sources of overwatch, for example with my US Army force I have a special rule that allows me to take multiple medium machine guns, typically they're not very point efficient (very rare in bolt action) but I like to take three of them at inexperienced level. This is the perfect sort of unit to keep back, use its range, so when that banzai charge comes in two or three sources of fire hit them in the open. Alternatively double light machine gun squads dug into hardcover are pretty good as well.
High explosive is universally powerful but also very potent against thin Japanese armour and blobs of infantry, so motorised artillery, regular artillery, and mortars are essential for whittling down the Imperial horde. Always take spotters on your artillery pieces. If Mr Mordian glory wants to hide his assault troops in hardcover near an objective, have multiple sources of indirect fire to blow them to pieces.
A gamy tactic is using forward deploying troops to mess with banzai orders, units like snipers, scouts, or russian anti-tank teams. Almost every army has something that can do this. The Japanese can only use the banzai move rule as long as it's against the closest enemy unit, if that unit is hiding in a tower in the middle of the board the japs have to do take order tests like anybody else if they want to attack your main lines.
Other thing is flamethrowers at least vehicle wise as my OT-34/85 destroyed 2 squads with the hull flamethrower and a HE round from it's 85mm. Lets just say after that I was able to use the tank as a sort of heavy bunker right at the objective marker and be able to send my veteran assault engineers to hold it. I was able to hold 2 of the three objectives the one I lost was when the Japanese player was able to lob 2 heavy artillery rounds in and so take out my 2 rifle squads there and have it open for his squads to come in.
@@ChrisS-fh7zt I have mixed luck with flamethrowers in BA, the amount of times I wiff and then just run out of fuel! But I reckon they've a physiological effect way above the actual damage they do. Everyone remembers that one game your flame thrower team toasted 30 guys, but not the following five when they do dick all.
How many points was the game? A OT-34/85 is a big chunk of points, it's nice when expensive armour can win a game.
@@dannyhalas9408 A OT-34/85 is 275 points Regular that is cheaper than my other 2 tanks that I got for my Soviets the KV-2 is 345 points and my KV-8 is 375 points Regular. But what makes Flamers devastating is that if a unit that gets hit by them fail their morale roll they are gone doesn't matter if they are fanatics or not. Hence why I try to at least send enough pins out so as to have a high chance of that happening. The squad that I hit with the flamethrower had 3 pins and the one with HE had 4 and both being regular they had to roll a really low number. The 4 one was a roll of 5 and the 3 one was a roll of 6 to pass also I took half his number down with the 85mm cannon hit.
This is why I prefer vehicle flamethrowers over infantry as they sort of able to at least shrug off small arms fire plus they have an extra 6 inch reach over their infantry counterparts.
Longbeard moment… don’t play Bolt Action but the automatic double ones of the Banzai charge harkens back to the old Insane Bravery (Double 1’s) and Craven Cowardice (Double 6s on a morale test where you had to roll under your Ld characteristic) rules from 40k 2nd Edition. Which make sense as you said the Warlord guys were old GW guys.
Found that very helpful, i am about to build my Japanese army. I figured suppress then charge would be the way
I don’t play bolt action yet but I’ve been thinking about getting into it so I would love to see more bolt action videos
Thanks for the video!
How much does, "Early vs Mid vs Late War" kinda stuff limit who you can play against in your experience? Have you tried Konflikt 47? I was looking at the BA stuff and saw it listed as well.
Hahahahaha This is so funny! Right after the CA video, bolt Action lol!
Just starting to get into bolt action, split the idland assault box and got the japanese half, this is very useful.
Probably going to have to pick up a Ha-Go and an armoured car now lol
Some mates and I were talking about building some “northern China,” IJA v SU themed armies.
We’ve dabbled a little in BA but are amateurs at best. Does the game still function well if we went a little armor heavy, point wise? ( trying to keep the army comp similar to the actual Khalkan Gol theme)
Cheers!
When Guard is so bad the Guard player has to play historicals 😉
Alway good to have another game system to fall back on when GW are being bellends.
My dads using a Italian army and loves Bolt Action.
Awesome work, please keep it up.
you should look into The Finnish army. lots of ambush tactics and instead of boshito, the fins use Sisu. The finnish can advance and if they didn't shoot turn there dice to ambush( units that have the master hunt rule, also any unit with a rife, including sniper rifle + 1 to hit when using ambush) (its also a very infantry heavy army, lots of small arms and few field guns. I think they only have like 3 tanks that aren't captured tech.)
Just commenting loads to help the algorithm so he makes more... But a taking a 1st lieutenant as a Japanese player seems strange, the 2+ bonus to order checks is wasted when you can banzai up the board, is 75pts really worth it for an extra snap too?
The Germans get a free snap too baked in and I don't find it that important when I play them, but I prefer a more reactive play style.
Would like to see a Japanese Bolt Action battle report
ABC! Always Be Charging! BANZAAAAAIIIIIIII!
Pass the Sake and BANZAAAAAAAAAAAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
love to see more videos,
Great video. Really interesting for a new Japanese player.
If you come to Sydney Australia. Hit me up, we'll have a game :)
I don't think it gets much love for it. It's a struggle to justify getting into it as I won't have anyone to play against :(
Bump for the algorithm gods
More bolt Action!
Speaking of Genestealer Cults...
Awesome!!!