@Jaml1986 he's top 2 and he isn't 2. It's not even a debate. Pace, height, Ariel ability, 1 v 1s, passing there isn't a a CB with any individual talent better than him. The only reason people like you look up to Vidic and Terry is because you see them make last ditch tackles. VVD stops everything before it even gets to that point. Stam, Maldini and even Rio has said he is. But JamL on RUclips knows more 🤣🤣🤣
@@yukonadventurexcThat’s the exact thing that’s showing their lack of football knowledge, just like Allison he reads and positions correctly so his saves look easy, but they’ll rate the ones who don’t and have to be doing acrobatics as a better keeper😂
@ behave you tool probably to young to remember or some African football expert! Like I said if Gabriel had the chances VVD had against Man City he would of had an hatrick !
Maybe that is their best though, people are assuming they have another gear but I'm not so sure. I can see them having a dip in form and losing plenty of points, plenty of games the score has flattered them.
@@gary83uk can definitely see them having a blip sure. Im not sure its going to be a man city size blip but maybe a game or 2 on the bounce at some point, But i can also see them thrashing a team 6 or 7 nil. Imagine this is without Harvey who was due for a serious breakout and without jota. Not to mention Allison. Throw on Nunez going on a bit of a run and they are really serious. And with guys like Jaden Dans and a few others in the wings, its looking very interesting
I think thats all they got and the only reason they are 9 points clear is because they haven't had there bad spell yet .they lost to Nottingham forest and nearly lost to Southampton. Calm down because there's a rude awakening coming.
What Team in the World RIGHT NOW would VVD not walk into? HE ABSOLUTELY gets into that City Team, Gets into Arsenal's tackline as well as Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and
John Terry and Rio didn't have to play a high line like vvd. virg is in his own league, a freak of a defender. Terry couldn't play in that Liverpool side at the moment
Imagine this kind of analysis. How many top strikers do we have in the world of football today? The game has changed so much that you don't need to be a top defender to look great, as long as you can pass the ball well and play a high line. Imagine your best defender in a one vs one with Thierry Henry, Eto'o, Brizilian Ronaldo, etc. Prime Henry would have killed him in a one vs one situation.
If you had to pick the ultimate CB you pick someone that's tall, strong, fast, calm under pressure, great in the air defending and attacking. Everything VVD is
Saliba is already better and has more talent. At 23 VVD was not challenging for the title and part of the best premier league defence and considered 1 of the best centre backs in the world. FACT
@@dannyovid8139 i seriously doubt your aware that liverpool had conceded less goals than arsenal first 20 games of last season only to end up conceding 12 more after 38 games😂 liverpool have not magically become better defensively with the exact same squad as last season. Take a look at the table after 38 games have been played
Jason Cundy is only crying about VVD because he doesn't want VVD to be considered a better defender than his beloved John Terry, Liverpool winning more Prem's or not than Chelsea has got nothing to do with it, VVD is a better defender football player than Terry, Vidic or even Ferdinand, anyway its all subjective but my pick is VVD for his all around reading, defending and skills in the game
The player who impressed was Joe Gomez,to come in against city and look like he’d been there all season was impressive.seams to me they have the potential as a team to get even better as the season continues,
Even Maldini himself said VVD could become the best defender of all time. Maldini!!! He didn’t say that about Terry , Rio or whoever, btw Woodgate was better that Rio and Terry!
@@RobertDixon-f8p Maldini never ever said that..stop faking things 😂 Van Dijk is arguably the best defender ever in prem but outside he's probably not even in top 5
Fake quote, and essentially, anyone can become the best defender of all time. Van Dijk couldn't possiblly deal with the Premier league strikers of the past. He's not fit to lace Terry or Ferdinands boots. Have a day off....
@@Do27ggthe audacity. Maldini was consistent for a decade compared to vvd who had 2 good seasons including this one. Maldini was the best when he faced R9, Ronaldinho, Del Piero, Totti, etc compared to Wood and Havertz 😂
VVD is the goat. The United fans will say vidic, the Chelsea fans will say John Terry. Both old skool no nonsense players. But at the end of the day, neither of those can do what VVD does. Hit 40 yard diagonals, hardly ever be dribbled past and battle for 90 mins without breaking a sweat. He’s the best PL defender in history. End of story
You clearly aren’t old enough to have seen John Terry play 🤦🏼. Kids putting ‘end of story’ at the end of their posts doesn’t conclude anything by the way. VVD shipped 7 against Villa, that is pathetic, you can’t drag players that are capable of that into a GOAT debate
@ More successful, part of the premier leagues best defence in 04/05 conceding 15 goals (VVD conceded nearly half that in 1 game, but you seem a bit touchy about that), kept twice as many clean sheets, more goals, more FIFA World XI appearances, Terry also did all playing against a better era of strikers. I’m not expecting a sensible response from a Liverpool ‘follower’ seeing as you’re the most blinkered fanbase out there next to Arsenal!
@@chrissteers5997 all I’m asking is one attribute Terry has over van dijk and I’ll start supporting man United. List all the clean sheets (a team stat) and trophies (another team stat) you want but Virgil is just better than Terry. I’d still put Terry in an all time XI for the prem
The fact people put Rio in the same conversation shows they are either really young or just bitter. Rio was a very contentious CB even years after he joined as he would genuinely have periods of harry maguire level meltdowns. There’s videos and forums still online of a very decent chunk of fans not having him.
Cundy “ i just dont see it” thats your own stupidity then. What a terrible pundit. Imagine not seeing how good vandik has been. Messi, haaland, Ronaldo, palmer and many others have all said it!!!! Then can see it
Just the two videos on what Carragher said on Van Dijk?…no video on Stefan Ortega comments after the game about the city of Liverpool area in general? Nope. You’re absolute gutless, he gave the interview to Talksport too!!!!
Messi is the best player in football history most people have watched and we're talking about his individual talent as a footballer, not team trophies. You don't have to be a Barça fan to understand how incredible Messi is just like you don't have to be a Liverpool fan to see how incredible Van dijk is.
Van Dijk is the BEST Prem defender ever..He defends with absolute ease, with such artistry..All those denying are just English BIAS and nostalgia merchants.. Those defenders they even delusionally think are the bEsT weren't that good just overhyped..Van Dijk is an artist at the back
@@Bert-lw1ot This era of prem is much better than it ever was 😂😂 stop the English BIAS 🤡🤡 M'F.. Everyone will always say Van Dijk is the best 😂😂😂 and there's nothing you can do about it except cry 😂😂😂😂
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Cundy doesn't get when Ferdinand and Terry were around there wasn't a state owned club with unlimited funding and 115 charges pending, Liverpool would have won multiple premier leagues in the time if City didn't exist and Utd & Chelsea wouldn't have won half as much if they did exist at that time. Grow up Cundy and just be mature about you're attitude.
I think overhyped is a stretch. Rio and Terry were phenomenal defenders and VVD is in that category. It's difficult to categorize players from different eras as rate one as the best.
Just putting it out there lads but Torres played as a lone striker with Gerrard as a ten and used to wrecked Terry and Rio So that ends your argument of they used to play with two strikers years ago
I'm a huge Liverpool fan and I've been around this wonderful game for over 60+ years, so I've seen great players in every position. I rate Virgil as one of the best of all time, but the best, I don't know. John Terry and Rio Ferdinand were excellent centre backs in United and Chelsea's hay days. Alan Hansen and Mark Lawrenson were brilliant for Liverpool when they dominated the league. There have been great centre backs from all over the world in the years that I've been watching football. Right now, big Virg is the best. If you can tell me who's better, I'm all ears and don't say Saliba and Gabriel because they're not. Saliba maybe the closest to Virgil Van Dijk, but that's it.
Cundy in denial. John Terry is their God. Take VVD out of the equation - i would actually pick Sol Campbell over Terry, Vidic or whoever all day, and i'm not Arsenal/Spurs.
Look at their faces, they're rattled so hard trying to justify that Van Dijk isn't the best ever.. Look at Cundy's face mentioning Rio and Terry, how his face and lips were shaking with desperation 😂 English BIAS, Vidic was even better than Rio 😂 Van Dijk is THE BEST prem defender ever
@@eL--RaL who said that? John Terry was part of statistically the best ever defence, plus he won multiple leagues and the UCL, funny how you chose Akanji, when you know he's not really in the conversation
yeah im totally in agreement that vvd is the best cb ive ever seen. because he has got everything. he read the game as good as terry, is as strong as campbell and faster than rio, rio is over rated id say and to come back from that injury the way he did aswel is unbelievable. he has everything. no weaknesses. makes other players better and is the best captain in pl right now aswel. i just cant remember seeing a better defender thats the truth its gonna be a sad day when he plays his last game for liverpool for sure.
What do any other CBs have over van dijk? He catches up with mbappe, dominates halaand in the air, plays 70 yard diagonals. It’s nostalgia at this point. Not to mention he almost beat messi to a balon dor 😂
i think even liverpool fans are willing to accept this, if this is your opinion, every1 has different things they prefer. but to say Van Dijk is "over hyped" is by far the dumbest thing ive heard on talksport. i hate people who can't put football rivalry to one side. to appreciate amazing players.
What are you talking about?? Messi pocketed Rio Ferdinand. Liverpool with van Dijk so far have had 92, 97 and 99 points. Terry only had 95 once and never above 88 after that. Rio had 97 one season but never above 90 before or after. This I apples and oranges mate. Van Dijk is currently on the same level as Rio and Terry. Im a huge fan of both Rio and Terry and personally have RIO ranked higher but i believe if Virgil signs a new deal OR wins another Champions league or League Title, he has to be considered the greatest. But if he isn’t, he has to be given the respect of sitting on the Mount Rushmore alongside Terry and Rio. The reason people don’t respect van Dijk is because he makes it look so easy. He never really has to recover like Terry and Rio did because his positioning is perfect almost always.
Terry got 93 in 16/17 don't lie. JT captained Chelsea to 5 league titles, and even at 36. Highest scoring defender, played with different CB pairings like Carvalho, Cahill, David Luiz etc. and made them look world class. Played under like 15 different managers, in different styles. Defensive under Mourinho conceding 115 goals, attacking under Ancelotti scoring 103 goals, played back 3 under Conte etc.
@ not lying. I forgot Terry did play 16-17 with Chelsea although to me he wasn’t really the same player at that point. But ive always said Terry and RIO and now Van Dijk. I can’t put any ahead of each other. Maybe Rio in his prime is the closest to Van Dijk. Terry for his longevity. It’s pole and oranges though. But the disrespect VVD gets is absurd. He is one of the greats and absolutely along side the 2 aforementioned. DAVID LUIZ that season was world class. Really the Chelsea team that season with Kante in the midfield was absurdly good. But thats what you get with an Oligarch pumping billions into a club.. sound familiar. ?
He's right about chelsea I said from the beginning of this season they will up there and deserve to be palmer has to be one the best forward players in the world at the moment
I don't understand why people don't rate VVD. This era of football is more attacking and therefore over his peak years he was more exposed. He had bombing full backs and not much of a midfield at times as it was rock and roll football. Players like Ferdinand and Terry benefited massively from having amazing defensive full backs in players like Cole, Ivanovich, Neville etc, they weren't as attacking and would tuck in, not to mention a defensive shield from the very best in players like Makelele. VVD can go toe to toe, 1v1 with pretty much anyone.
Why they laughing? Ask the question, “would you take Rio or John Terry over Virgil”? Who in their right mind would not take the threat in the air, the ability to lace a 60 yard diagonal ball, and his command of the back line?
VVD gets in every team and every playstyle in hisory. Only other EPL CB that does is Rio and getting found guilty of doping removes him from the debate.
Cundy, Cundy, Cundy. Take your blue tinted spectacles off. Whether VVD is THE best is up for debate. Other CB's have won more than him, but in terms of ability you cannot deny he is at LEAST in the top 5 CB's in Prem history. The man is a rolls royce.
Saying best defender ever is subjective and can never be proven, also loads of caveats (how many medals etc), but. I genuinely think saying he’s overrated and not that good is more ridiculous than saying he’s the best cb ever
VVD is awesome, but those comparisons he’s saying - even martinelli has rinsed vvd means nothing. Last season and season before a lot were getting past him, as did messi
IMO VVD is not the best defender in PL histoy, but he is good enough to be in that discussion. Opinions will always vary on who is the actual best, and it'll largly come down to who each person commentating has watched the most of between the top contenders.
yeh is so obvious now. Terry is Chelseas God, so it dont matter what Van Dijk does or wins, they will never say it. pathetic. when people cant put rivalry or own team bias to one side to appreciate a superstar. cundy one minute goes Van Dijk is definitely in the conversation, then says hes over-hyped... lol.. if hes in the conversation with terry and Rio, then already means hes elite level and the hype is completely spot on. Cundy is a complete tool sometimes
If Virgil is English then no debate about it...He was more stability...compuser...fast..than Rio and johnTerry...These two are English that's why they overhyped them
Dont get the obssession with VVD hes a good defender in an era of poor defenders so he looks even better, hes not doing anything with or without the ball that we have not seen from a defender before, its just that there are less good ones about to compare him to these days.
cundy didn't watch the game on sunday clearly! he said why were motd pundits raving about him when he made that mistake when he put kevin de brune threw, anyone who watched it knows he was unbeatable in that game haarland didn't no what to do beat him to everything
Virgil has played against both Ronaldo and Messi, and they had no joy against him. He has also engaged the new kids on the block in Haaland and Mbappe, and they've both declared him as their toughest opponent yet. When in his element: he is at least two levels better than Terry and a level better than Rio. He is very technically way more gifted than those two, has way better Control of the ball at his feet, His aerial prowess is incomparable to that of those two, his passing range eclipses that of the two combined. His 1v1 dominance is another worldly, his in-game intelligence far exceeds those of Terry and Rio, so please kindly educate us on the aspects of the game in which they are better, which makes them better overall. He was atrociously robbed of the Ballon d' or, by the organised meanderings of the football power houses in favour of Messi. Virgil Van Dijk is incontrovertibly; *The BEST CENTRE BACK In the Premier league era, by some distance.* 🎉 Get a grip @Cundy!
Difference VVD does it with anyone. No matter who his CB partner is or who's the full backs he delivers.
Took the words right out of my mouth. It honestly does not matter whether it be Konate, Matip, Gomes, Lovren, etc
🤣🤣🤣behave ffs he’s not even in top 5 best cbs in premier league history
@Jaml1986 he's top 2 and he isn't 2. It's not even a debate. Pace, height, Ariel ability, 1 v 1s, passing there isn't a a CB with any individual talent better than him. The only reason people like you look up to Vidic and Terry is because you see them make last ditch tackles. VVD stops everything before it even gets to that point. Stam, Maldini and even Rio has said he is. But JamL on RUclips knows more 🤣🤣🤣
@@yukonadventurexcThat’s the exact thing that’s showing their lack of football knowledge, just like Allison he reads and positions correctly so his saves look easy, but they’ll rate the ones who don’t and have to be doing acrobatics as a better keeper😂
@ behave you tool probably to young to remember or some African football expert! Like I said if Gabriel had the chances VVD had against Man City he would of had an hatrick !
Every game Liverpool wins, the more Cundy becomes rattled.😂
The SCARY part about Liverpool that nobody is addressing, is that they STILL haven’t played at their best
Maybe that is their best though, people are assuming they have another gear but I'm not so sure. I can see them having a dip in form and losing plenty of points, plenty of games the score has flattered them.
100% but also havent had the blip or more than just alison and jota out.
@@gary83uk can definitely see them having a blip sure. Im not sure its going to be a man city size blip but maybe a game or 2 on the bounce at some point, But i can also see them thrashing a team 6 or 7 nil. Imagine this is without Harvey who was due for a serious breakout and without jota. Not to mention Allison. Throw on Nunez going on a bit of a run and they are really serious. And with guys like Jaden Dans and a few others in the wings, its looking very interesting
They did against real madrid,city 2 top performance i have seen by liverpool 💪
I think thats all they got and the only reason they are 9 points clear is because they haven't had there bad spell yet .they lost to Nottingham forest and nearly lost to Southampton. Calm down because there's a rude awakening coming.
What Team in the World RIGHT NOW would VVD not walk into? HE ABSOLUTELY gets into that City Team, Gets into Arsenal's tackline as well as Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and
Yes VVD will get into any team take it back 20 yrs
@@henrykemka2164why stop at 20 years, one of the best of all time.
@Nunyabusiness40
I was simply being humble and decided not to go back more than 20 yrs. VVD will indeed get into basically most, if not, any team
If VVD was a Chelsea player Cundy wouldn't be saying any of this nonsense 😅 jealousy at it's finest
Well said
Maybe he would but vvd is not the best ever in the prem,,,no way
John Terry and Rio didn't have to play a high line like vvd. virg is in his own league, a freak of a defender.
Terry couldn't play in that Liverpool side at the moment
Imagine this kind of analysis. How many top strikers do we have in the world of football today? The game has changed so much that you don't need to be a top defender to look great, as long as you can pass the ball well and play a high line. Imagine your best defender in a one vs one with Thierry Henry, Eto'o, Brizilian Ronaldo, etc. Prime Henry would have killed him in a one vs one situation.
If you had to pick the ultimate CB you pick someone that's tall, strong, fast, calm under pressure, great in the air defending and attacking. Everything VVD is
Good with his feet also
Bin dipper in bin what a coincidence. Biased twat
Exactly, only argument is trophies so you know he’s the best ever
Van Dijks the best ever. Everyone would want him in their backline. You ain't gonna beat him 1v1, in the air or in a race.
Behave
Saliba is already better and has more talent. At 23 VVD was not challenging for the title and part of the best premier league defence and considered 1 of the best centre backs in the world. FACT
@applenuts hasn't been that good this season has he 🤣😂
@@applenutssaliba is average in the air in fact gets bullied sometimes
@@dannyovid8139 i seriously doubt your aware that liverpool had conceded less goals than arsenal first 20 games of last season only to end up conceding 12 more after 38 games😂 liverpool have not magically become better defensively with the exact same squad as last season. Take a look at the table after 38 games have been played
VVD is the best defender in the EPL.
Jason Cundy is only crying about VVD because he doesn't want VVD to be considered a better defender than his beloved John Terry, Liverpool winning more Prem's or not than Chelsea has got nothing to do with it, VVD is a better defender football player than Terry, Vidic or even Ferdinand, anyway its all subjective but my pick is VVD for his all around reading, defending and skills in the game
The player who impressed was Joe Gomez,to come in against city and look like he’d been there all season was impressive.seams to me they have the potential as a team to get even better as the season continues,
Its a chance to show klopp what he's made of same with others
Even Maldini himself said VVD could become the best defender of all time. Maldini!!! He didn’t say that about Terry , Rio or whoever, btw Woodgate was better that Rio and Terry!
@@RobertDixon-f8p Maldini never ever said that..stop faking things 😂 Van Dijk is arguably the best defender ever in prem but outside he's probably not even in top 5
lol where is that Maldini article pls???
Fake quote, and essentially, anyone can become the best defender of all time. Van Dijk couldn't possiblly deal with the Premier league strikers of the past. He's not fit to lace Terry or Ferdinands boots. Have a day off....
@@eL--RaL what does maldini have over Virgil? CB nowadays is harder than before. They have to be brilliant footballers playing in a high line
@@Do27ggthe audacity. Maldini was consistent for a decade compared to vvd who had 2 good seasons including this one. Maldini was the best when he faced R9, Ronaldinho, Del Piero, Totti, etc compared to Wood and Havertz 😂
After Jürgen announced he is leaving, Arsenal fans were celebrating and saying there is only Pep to beat 😂😂😂😂
Who said he's overhyped... Oh... Cundy.. Move on lads nothing to see here😂
Yet here you are!
Let this era of Liverpool bitterness last FOREVER
VVD is the goat. The United fans will say vidic, the Chelsea fans will say John Terry. Both old skool no nonsense players.
But at the end of the day, neither of those can do what VVD does. Hit 40 yard diagonals, hardly ever be dribbled past and battle for 90 mins without breaking a sweat.
He’s the best PL defender in history. End of story
You know what they can do? Win trophies.. go compare idiot
You clearly aren’t old enough to have seen John Terry play 🤦🏼.
Kids putting ‘end of story’ at the end of their posts doesn’t conclude anything by the way.
VVD shipped 7 against Villa, that is pathetic, you can’t drag players that are capable of that into a GOAT debate
@@chrissteers5997 there’s no way that villa game is your only argument against VVD 😂 tell me what Terry has over Virgil
@ More successful, part of the premier leagues best defence in 04/05 conceding 15 goals (VVD conceded nearly half that in 1 game, but you seem a bit touchy about that), kept twice as many clean sheets, more goals, more FIFA World XI appearances, Terry also did all playing against a better era of strikers.
I’m not expecting a sensible response from a Liverpool ‘follower’ seeing as you’re the most blinkered fanbase out there next to Arsenal!
@@chrissteers5997 all I’m asking is one attribute Terry has over van dijk and I’ll start supporting man United. List all the clean sheets (a team stat) and trophies (another team stat) you want but Virgil is just better than Terry. I’d still put Terry in an all time XI for the prem
The fact people put Rio in the same conversation shows they are either really young or just bitter.
Rio was a very contentious CB even years after he joined as he would genuinely have periods of harry maguire level meltdowns.
There’s videos and forums still online of a very decent chunk of fans not having him.
CBs back then were lucky there was no social media
@@Do27ggthey did Myspace bebo among others just didn't have annoying kids on them
Rio was so overrated...playing alongside Vidic and for England , Terry or Campbell made him look good...Rio never deserved to be in Prem Hall Of Fame
Terry, Rio, Vidic all Quality. VVD is a level above. Absolute Rolls Royce.
Wtf 😂
If he was a chelsea player he would be raving about him
Cundy “ i just dont see it” thats your own stupidity then. What a terrible pundit. Imagine not seeing how good vandik has been.
Messi, haaland, Ronaldo, palmer and many others have all said it!!!! Then can see it
Kid snuck in Haaland and Palmer alongside MESSI and Ronaldo like we wouldn't notice 💀🤡🤡
Are haalnd and palmer not the best attackers in the league now with salah??
Thats why i mentioned them and both said hes the best the faced.
Just the two videos on what Carragher said on Van Dijk?…no video on Stefan Ortega comments after the game about the city of Liverpool area in general? Nope. You’re absolute gutless, he gave the interview to Talksport too!!!!
Stefan ortega disgrace to a human race
The guy that says I love the city, fans and club gets criticised. The guy who disrespects the whole city and nothing mentioned
What Ortega said was spot on 😂
If Cundy couldn’t see how good Vandjik is he is blind, don’t be too biased , just give a honest assessment about a team or a player.
Yeah because Liverpool fans are not biassed are they lol
Messi is the best player in football history most people have watched and we're talking about his individual talent as a footballer, not team trophies. You don't have to be a Barça fan to understand how incredible Messi is just like you don't have to be a Liverpool fan to see how incredible Van dijk is.
Vandik got to 3 champions league finals. Did cundy miss that??????
Also messi and ronaldo stated hes is there toughest opponent
Van Dijk is the BEST Prem defender ever..He defends with absolute ease, with such artistry..All those denying are just English BIAS and nostalgia merchants.. Those defenders they even delusionally think are the bEsT weren't that good just overhyped..Van Dijk is an artist at the back
I don't like the guy but I must say he is the best I have even seen played in that position in my 30+ years watching football
He's playing in arguably the worst era ever for quality strikers! How many strikers in the league regularly get 20 goals a season?
@@Bert-lw1ot This era of prem is much better than it ever was 😂😂 stop the English BIAS 🤡🤡 M'F..
Everyone will always say Van Dijk is the best 😂😂😂 and there's nothing you can do about it except cry 😂😂😂😂
@@eL--RaL you didn't answer the question
@@eL--RaL still waiting…
Jason Cundy can say whatever he wants to say, I have represented District, County and Country as a Footballer. My Cousin Dion, and Emile and Keith have represented district, County and Country. They have played Football at Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool, Aston Villa, Celtic, Coventry, Leicester City and England. The Trophies which they have surpass anything that Jason Cundy has ever achieved in his life. John Barnes, Ian Wright, Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer are friends of the family and have been for years.
Jason Cundy is a Talk sport pundit who has a right to express his comments, However, people must not be caught up in his negative comments about football teams. Jason Cundy hasn't achieved anything significant in footballing terms. He once played for Chelsea, Very good now what else has he achieved in the Sport. Kevin Keen who played at West Ham United and Managed West Ham United will tell you, Jason Cundy has not achieved anything in the sport of football.
So please just allow Jason to have his say and don't get caught up in his negativity. We have family members at Real Madrid and at Barcelona, We even have Broadcasting legends in Sport in the US and Europe. We also have Hall of Fame Quarterbacks at Miami Dolphins.
Jason Cundy is small fry and small time commentators, who have had some sporting success but they are not in the big league of sport greats. In Our Home we have a room devoted to our families and my own personal achievements. If Jason wants to see what success looks like, He should visit and I will show him round and then we can do a Televised Comparison of his Trophy Awards. Jason Cundy is entitled to his comments about teams as part of his job.
However, He must compare his successes with others and only then can he speak and comment with accurate authority on the subject matter.
I agree that Rio was a tad overrated
@@surfinbearbeats
Ferdinand as a defender was suspended for almost a year because of using illegal substance to help him outperform his opponents
Not a tad overrated, VERY overrated lol
Cundy doesn't get when Ferdinand and Terry were around there wasn't a state owned club with unlimited funding and 115 charges pending, Liverpool would have won multiple premier leagues in the time if City didn't exist and Utd & Chelsea wouldn't have won half as much if they did exist at that time. Grow up Cundy and just be mature about you're attitude.
100% Mo is the TRUTH
When it's a win.
Lol..only a Chelsea fan would say that..vvd is best centre back in world ..currently..
VVD if physically better than them all and technically, he dominates everything on the air and then pings 50 yard passes outwide to salah
Cundy has proven today he is only in talksport due to being a comedian. How can he even make that comment
You tell um Mo 😂
Terry needs two defense midfielders sitting in a low block, vvd doesn't and is better at everything as well.
terry got bundles of protection at the bridge vvd far better than terry
@paulmichaelrichardson6582 terry is closer to harry maguire
Franco Barrasi and Paul McGrath are the only CB in the history of world football that comes close to VVD!
Maldini nesta too and cannavaro was a beast small but some jump on him
I think overhyped is a stretch. Rio and Terry were phenomenal defenders and VVD is in that category. It's difficult to categorize players from different eras as rate one as the best.
Just putting it out there lads but Torres played as a lone striker with Gerrard as a ten and used to wrecked Terry and Rio
So that ends your argument of they used to play with two strikers years ago
I'm a huge Liverpool fan and I've been around this wonderful game for over 60+ years, so I've seen great players in every position. I rate Virgil as one of the best of all time, but the best, I don't know. John Terry and Rio Ferdinand were excellent centre backs in United and Chelsea's hay days. Alan Hansen and Mark Lawrenson were brilliant for Liverpool when they dominated the league. There have been great centre backs from all over the world in the years that I've been watching football. Right now, big Virg is the best. If you can tell me who's better, I'm all ears and don't say Saliba and Gabriel because they're not. Saliba maybe the closest to Virgil Van Dijk, but that's it.
Stam and maldini were unreal
Cundy in denial. John Terry is their God.
Take VVD out of the equation - i would actually pick Sol Campbell over Terry, Vidic or whoever all day, and i'm not Arsenal/Spurs.
As a Liverpool fan i have to disagree. Terry was the best until vvd came along. Lets be fair
Anybody can look good in those United and Chelsea teams. They had insane attackers
Van Dijk had that question mark above him, but he's done unbelievable regaining his game
And Liverpool will be champions in 2025 with 8 games spare!
Look at their faces, they're rattled so hard trying to justify that Van Dijk isn't the best ever.. Look at Cundy's face mentioning Rio and Terry, how his face and lips were shaking with desperation 😂 English BIAS, Vidic was even better than Rio 😂 Van Dijk is THE BEST prem defender ever
Anyone but an English player right mate? Even one who's only won 1 league! 😂😂
Rubbish 🇮🇳💎🇮🇳
@@Bert-lw1ot So Akanji is better than Terry since Akanji won treble 😂😂😂😂
@@eL--RaL who said that? John Terry was part of statistically the best ever defence, plus he won multiple leagues and the UCL, funny how you chose Akanji, when you know he's not really in the conversation
How many times are you gonna comment you muppet?
@@Bert-lw1ot John Terry defended himself the whole season then? Weak argument
yeah im totally in agreement that vvd is the best cb ive ever seen. because he has got everything. he read the game as good as terry, is as strong as campbell and faster than rio, rio is over rated id say and to come back from that injury the way he did aswel is unbelievable. he has everything. no weaknesses. makes other players better and is the best captain in pl right now aswel. i just cant remember seeing a better defender thats the truth its gonna be a sad day when he plays his last game for liverpool for sure.
Blatantly biased towards Chelsea...its unreal
What do any other CBs have over van dijk? He catches up with mbappe, dominates halaand in the air, plays 70 yard diagonals. It’s nostalgia at this point. Not to mention he almost beat messi to a balon dor 😂
0:31 O'Hara breaking into laughter killed me. He seems the type who'd break into laughter at the worst possible time 😂
these two are one of the reasons i hate listening to talksport anymore. what a joke.
Vvd is certainly in the conversation for best Premier League cb. But for me it's terry
i think even liverpool fans are willing to accept this, if this is your opinion, every1 has different things they prefer. but to say Van Dijk is "over hyped" is by far the dumbest thing ive heard on talksport. i hate people who can't put football rivalry to one side. to appreciate amazing players.
Micky Van Der Ven Candy said last month i still cant stop laughing 😂😂😂
Just my opinion...
In terms of career/PL legacy: Terry, Ferdinand.
In terms of his prime/skill: van Dijk.
Terry or ferdinand wouldn't win a single league title in the pep era
Van dijks prime has been like 8 years. He’s the best cb of all time and I haven’t heard any decent arguments against it
VIRGIL IS THE BEST EVER EVEN THE ARSENAL FAN AGREED RIO TERRY SOL ADAMS THEY CANT DO THE THINGS HE DOES
Over hyped ? No player gets the better of VVD !!! Haaland didn’t get a touch
Cundy really needs to stop this nonsense. He looks a moron, he already sounds stupid without ridiculous statements like this.
What are you talking about?? Messi pocketed Rio Ferdinand. Liverpool with van Dijk so far have had 92, 97 and 99 points. Terry only had 95 once and never above 88 after that. Rio had 97 one season but never above 90 before or after.
This I apples and oranges mate. Van Dijk is currently on the same level as Rio and Terry. Im a huge fan of both Rio and Terry and personally have RIO ranked higher but i believe if Virgil signs a new deal OR wins another Champions league or League Title, he has to be considered the greatest. But if he isn’t, he has to be given the respect of sitting on the Mount Rushmore alongside Terry and Rio.
The reason people don’t respect van Dijk is because he makes it look so easy. He never really has to recover like Terry and Rio did because his positioning is perfect almost always.
Terry got 93 in 16/17 don't lie. JT captained Chelsea to 5 league titles, and even at 36. Highest scoring defender, played with different CB pairings like Carvalho, Cahill, David Luiz etc. and made them look world class. Played under like 15 different managers, in different styles. Defensive under Mourinho conceding 115 goals, attacking under Ancelotti scoring 103 goals, played back 3 under Conte etc.
@ not lying. I forgot Terry did play 16-17 with Chelsea although to me he wasn’t really the same player at that point. But ive always said Terry and RIO and now Van Dijk. I can’t put any ahead of each other. Maybe Rio in his prime is the closest to Van Dijk. Terry for his longevity. It’s pole and oranges though. But the disrespect VVD gets is absurd. He is one of the greats and absolutely along side the 2 aforementioned. DAVID LUIZ that season was world class. Really the Chelsea team that season with Kante in the midfield was absurdly good. But thats what you get with an Oligarch pumping billions into a club.. sound familiar. ?
Saying VVD is over hyped is more delusional than saying he isn’t one of the best cb in the pl, ever
Like to see John Terry defend on the half way line
He's right about chelsea I said from the beginning of this season they will up there and deserve to be palmer has to be one the best forward players in the world at the moment
"He can't see it" that's why he's on the radio and not manager.
I will never understand why 100% Mo calls O’Hara Jimmy G 😂
I don't understand why people don't rate VVD. This era of football is more attacking and therefore over his peak years he was more exposed. He had bombing full backs and not much of a midfield at times as it was rock and roll football. Players like Ferdinand and Terry benefited massively from having amazing defensive full backs in players like Cole, Ivanovich, Neville etc, they weren't as attacking and would tuck in, not to mention a defensive shield from the very best in players like Makelele. VVD can go toe to toe, 1v1 with pretty much anyone.
Why they laughing? Ask the question, “would you take Rio or John Terry over Virgil”? Who in their right mind would not take the threat in the air, the ability to lace a 60 yard diagonal ball, and his command of the back line?
VVD being the best defender ever in the history of the sport has to be easiest statement to make ever in the history of the sport
VVD gets in every team and every playstyle in hisory. Only other EPL CB that does is Rio and getting found guilty of doping removes him from the debate.
Vvd is not the best centre back ever nowhere near maybe in the top 10 but certainly not the best ever 😂😂
Liverpool have not played anyone yet!!!!!!!
Cundy, Cundy, Cundy. Take your blue tinted spectacles off. Whether VVD is THE best is up for debate. Other CB's have won more than him, but in terms of ability you cannot deny he is at LEAST in the top 5 CB's in Prem history. The man is a rolls royce.
All this hate gets boring after a while....
Wouldn't swap prime virgil FOR NOBODY. YNWA JFT97 ❤
Yes vvd is amongst the best ever centre backs in the prem ,only for me John Terry bossed games more than VVD on a more regular basis .
Saying best defender ever is subjective and can never be proven, also loads of caveats (how many medals etc), but. I genuinely think saying he’s overrated and not that good is more ridiculous than saying he’s the best cb ever
Never seen a CB make Prem defending look so easy. He literally breezes through games. Dude is a cheat code
VVD is awesome, but those comparisons he’s saying - even martinelli has rinsed vvd means nothing. Last season and season before a lot were getting past him, as did messi
Liverpool is the only team in the world with 5-7 World class players for the last 5 season with only 2 major trophies
If you need to pick a CB from an all time premier league list you're picking Virgil and then one of the other guys. Probably Terry
Virgil and Salah will stay. Trent will go join his boyfriend Jude at Madrid
Well let's be honest an average defender won't be able to recognise greatness 🤷♂️
IMO VVD is not the best defender in PL histoy, but he is good enough to be in that discussion. Opinions will always vary on who is the actual best, and it'll largly come down to who each person commentating has watched the most of between the top contenders.
Don't disrespect the legends. A lot of you are prisoners of the moment. He's the best in the game right now, but not ever.
yeh is so obvious now. Terry is Chelseas God, so it dont matter what Van Dijk does or wins, they will never say it. pathetic. when people cant put rivalry or own team bias to one side to appreciate a superstar. cundy one minute goes Van Dijk is definitely in the conversation, then says hes over-hyped... lol.. if hes in the conversation with terry and Rio, then already means hes elite level and the hype is completely spot on. Cundy is a complete tool sometimes
VVD is the best ever end of. Imagine if he was good at corners/scoring more as well!
'I just dont see it' 😂 Cundy is clearly stating here that he's in the wrong job, absolutely clueless.
If Virgil is English then no debate about it...He was more stability...compuser...fast..than Rio and johnTerry...These two are English that's why they overhyped them
Slot had a team to slot into, Arteta had to totally rebuild
Dont get the obssession with VVD hes a good defender in an era of poor defenders so he looks even better, hes not doing anything with or without the ball that we have not seen from a defender before, its just that there are less good ones about to compare him to these days.
He is best, but not best ever CB…
He's the best defender in Prem history
@@eL--RaL that’s Stam
@@bobbates797stam himself said it’s Virgil and stam only played like 2/3 years at United
@@Do27gg 3 years 3 premier leagues a treble included and 2 uefa defender of the year awards VVD isn’t in the same league
Van Dijk is certainly among one of the best but calling him the greatest ever that's debatable imo but each to their own opinion
Van Dijk is better than all of them. The best defender ever in the Premier League.
I’m not sure why these two clowns are laughing. Van Dyke is certainly one of the best in the world and definitely one of the PL best ever.
Best call of the week ,so funny 😂😂😂😂, I listen to talks port all ,you two are streets ahead of them all ,unreal entertainment
cundy didn't watch the game on sunday clearly! he said why were motd pundits raving about him when he made that mistake when he put kevin de brune threw, anyone who watched it knows he was unbeatable in that game haarland didn't no what to do beat him to everything
Vidic had better seasons all day bossed it for 10 years straight with loads of trophy’s
Who needs gifts at Christmas when you've got Mos tripe week in week out
the caller is right Vidic terry and rio got destoyed
Are these listeners 12? Terry and Ferdinand clear VVD. They had to play against way better players, peiple have short memories
Cundy - Remove the d and insert a t.
Virgil has played against both Ronaldo and Messi, and they had no joy against him.
He has also engaged the new kids on the block in Haaland and Mbappe, and they've both declared him as their toughest opponent yet.
When in his element: he is at least two levels better than Terry and a level better than Rio.
He is very technically way more gifted than those two, has way better Control of the ball at his feet, His aerial prowess is incomparable to that of those two, his passing range eclipses that of the two combined. His 1v1 dominance is another worldly, his in-game intelligence far exceeds those of Terry and Rio, so please kindly educate us on the aspects of the game in which they are better, which makes them better overall.
He was atrociously robbed of the Ballon d' or, by the organised meanderings of the football power houses in favour of Messi.
Virgil Van Dijk is incontrovertibly; *The BEST CENTRE BACK In the Premier league era, by some distance.*
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Get a grip @Cundy!
Van dike is legend in epl in riverpool that's true no change forever true how think about riverpool all fans?😊
VVD is definetly Top3
There are no top strikers today.
Who is he defending against?
Perhaps watch the interview Rio had with VVD ....
Liverpool fans just scared of Arsenal because they know they got played off the park with half our squad fit.