90's CAD Digitizer and AutoCAD - CalComp DrawingBoard II

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  • @olik136
    @olik136 2 года назад +378

    having spend about 25000€ on Autocad.. I have to say the difference between the 2023 version and the 1997 version is surprisingly small...

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem 2 года назад +8

      why did you do updates then?

    • @thomaswitmer51
      @thomaswitmer51 2 года назад +51

      If you’re working with other companies, I’m sure they’re not using AutoCAD ‘97 nor will they save down for your convenience.

    • @ianburke5867
      @ianburke5867 2 года назад +6

      Maybe only when the Express tools were added, the rest is the same old rope.

    • @moritzwagner4332
      @moritzwagner4332 2 года назад +6

      Nah, it lacks a lot of functionality. It only has like the bare minimum.

    • @krzysztofjarzyna3194
      @krzysztofjarzyna3194 2 года назад +4

      It's not small. Autodesk expanded many functions in Autocad: like tracing, snaping options, 3d objects, upgraded how many commands work, added configurable CUI, added option to define own property set definitions, etc.

  • @FrankConforti
    @FrankConforti 2 года назад +329

    I recently retired after 42 years in computer aided design/engineering. I go back to when digitizing drawings and PCB layouts was CAD’s primary function (look up Computervision CADDS 1). I started my career using the big brother to the digitizer you have there (4 feet x 4 feet). I digitized hundreds of PCB layouts where the draftsman would hand draw the PCB layout using templates for the chips and discrete parts. And when I say templates I mean a piece of plastic they’d use a pencil to draw in the component pads. Traces were drawn in green for the top of the trace layout and red for the back. My job was to trace all of these into the computer where the proper thickness of the trace appeared on the computer screen as well as the solder pads and vias. These drawings were large 4:1 or greater. The final process was the photoplot the results at 1:1 onto film which is then used to fabricate the boards. Over the intervening years, CAD/CAE became more and more powerful and user friendly. I’ve worked with Intergraph IGDS, AutoCAD, but mostly Bentley Systems’ MicroStation. What ALL CAD systems even to this day have in common is complexity. What happens is as CAD became more sophisticated, the amount of information embedded into the designs increased requiring more specialization and integration into the entire design/build process.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 2 года назад +2

      Use any modern CAD software? If so, have any recommendations?

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 2 года назад +3

      @Mr Guru I'd like to use AutoCAD, but since they went SaaS that's a giant no. What would you recommend for general purposes that hasn't gone SaaS? Preferably something with a built-in scripting language.

    • @anon_y_mousse
      @anon_y_mousse 2 года назад +1

      @Mr Guru This is true, but as I don't have AutoCAD now, getting an older version would require piracy because AutoDesk doesn't sell it anymore. As for what I would want it for, my Dad, but how and why the situation is what is would take too much for a YT comment. I'll have to see if I can't take some time to get him to learn FreeCAD which I don't actually know myself because I've never done drafting work.

    • @judewestburner
      @judewestburner 2 года назад +7

      We now live in a mature time where you can have a COMPUTER CAD career spanning 42 years. That's amazing that you stuck with it for basically your entire career length, nice one!

    • @mutarq
      @mutarq 2 года назад +3

      @@anon_y_mousse Rhinoceros... not Saas.. and a lot of commands work just like Autocad (you can do first class 3D, but drawings are ok too)

  • @theangrymarmot8336
    @theangrymarmot8336 2 года назад +104

    I used AutoCAD heavily in the 90s. My first "real job" I had in high school was tutoring a local architect firm in AutoCAD so they could transition from manual drafting to computer. Being 14/15 years old and "working" at a Architect firm - when most of my friends were working at fast food restaurants sure did a lot for my teen ego. Lol. Luckily, despite living in a rural area we had a fantastic technology teacher at the school, and a very successful chapter of "Technology Student Association" and one of the competitions every year was CAD.
    Some friends and I shared around a pirated copy of AutoCAD (If I remember correctly it was like 50+ floppy disks.) I used to be annoyed that my nights spent on IRC and ICQ (remember ICQ? "uh-oh!" lol) because my left hand was much faster typing than my right from all the hours and hours using AutoCAD and entering commands with my left hand. Those were the days, staying after school in the computer lab to play Duke, Descent, Wacky Racers, Hi-Octane, GTA 1, etc with my friends. My "senior project" was I set up a mIRC server and had the class chatting with each other - which was very, very easy to do, but at the time - the teachers didn't know that.
    It is probably my rose-tinted glasses, but I feel like the mid 80s - late 90s where quite the time to be into computers and tech and I am just grateful that the technology teacher and programs at my high school were batting far above average considering the area. Great video and brought back some great memories.

    • @BEdmonson85
      @BEdmonson85 2 года назад +4

      I was in a similar situation. My first job was "technically" a stockboy at the local grocery store, but I decided to get a head start on my college career during my junior/senior years in high school and so I started attending night school at the local technical college my junior year. I was majoring in industrial electronics. About 3 months after I started the job at the grocery store, a woman working for BAE Systems (defense contractor) decided to go back to school and get her electronics degree for a salary raise. She was not doing well and I was asked by the professor to tutor her. We got to chatting about where she worked and why she was back in school and I asked about any open part-time positions. Three weeks later, I had a job making double what I was making at the grocery store and doing a job I was far more interested in. I worked there for another 3 years until BAE decided to close that facility and merge it with one of their other locations, by that time I had graduated high school and was headed off to university, though I did hate to see so many of the people I had become friends with loose their jobs... some of them had been working there 20+ years.

    • @jeradw7420
      @jeradw7420 Год назад +1

      My first real CAD job used a version of this tablet in the early 90s. My tablet had specific functions on the left and top with a "drawing" area in the lower right. You could select the commands with the puck (not mouse) or use the keyboard. I was alot faster using my left for the key commands as I didn't have to move the puck off the lines I was drawing.

    • @joekenorer
      @joekenorer Год назад +2

      I went to a local technical college sometime around 2000 that assigned you an IBM laptop that you got to keep upon completion of the course. At this school I discovered Counter Strike 1.2, so I failed the course. I am now an HVAC and refrigeration technician.

    • @franchy1971
      @franchy1971 Год назад +1

      When autocad 13 for Windows came out, digitizers went out the window. With menus you don't need to use digitizers. Autocad 12 for DOS was the last one.

  • @CaseySexton
    @CaseySexton 2 года назад +25

    I used this exact setup in my vocational class in high school back in the 90e. I felt like I was using a million dollar mouse lol. When the teacher upgraded to Autocad 2000 we all thought we were living in the future.
    I miss those days for so many reasons. Thank you for this video.

  • @szahm1968
    @szahm1968 2 года назад +73

    I used one of these for years during my early days of drafting (91-97). The mouse thing is called a digitizer puck. The clear area was there for customization. You could create lisp routines in AutoCAD (LT had a scaled down macro set, from what I remember) and map them to 'squares' in the upper area where you would place a hand drawn or printed sheet under the mat with icons representing your custom commands. Typically it was used for inserting common blocks especially in the plumbing, electrical and HVAC worlds.

    • @80s_Gamr
      @80s_Gamr Год назад +2

      I literally went to my PC (was watching originally on my TV) just so I could come to the comments and say exactly what you did, lol. I've always missed working with this back in the day... like 27+ years ago.

    • @MichaelNeese
      @MichaelNeese Год назад +1

      LISP (shutters)

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah 2 года назад +19

    I drove by my structural engineer friend's office the other day to pick him up, he was working on some AutoCAD / SCADA stuff at the time and man, they still work like that for the most part! The things people in the '90s came up with are truly amazing. Thanks for the great video!

  • @andrewb9830
    @andrewb9830 2 года назад +97

    Your excited - Imagine being a 14 year old in the 80's and discovering your high school's new CAD lab with its dozen of Olivetti M24 computers + Summasketch digitizers and wicked HP plotters. I spent more time in that lab then the computer lab with its boring old TRS-80s.

    • @MrNoobed
      @MrNoobed 2 года назад +10

      Wow, nice highschool. That's amazing

    • @michaelluster2694
      @michaelluster2694 2 года назад +13

      That's one big highschool Budget?

    • @shadetreetoolman2047
      @shadetreetoolman2047 2 года назад +1

      My high school drafting instructor still had a pen plotter back in 2004. They didn't use it much but, it was interesting to watch it draw (print) out a page line by line.

    • @gfixler
      @gfixler 5 месяцев назад

      Wow, my first hs had TRS-80s, the ones that looked like bowling ball returns, and I learned to touch type on those. Then my second hs had Autocad setups with the digitizers and a cool plotter, and I designed a whole house in class, and plotter printed it out. We would all sit and stare as it printed. I know the same excitement!

    • @AoBzealot0812
      @AoBzealot0812 4 месяца назад

      You had a CAD lab? In the '80s? We didn't have one in the 2010's!

  • @RetroCAD
    @RetroCAD 2 года назад +28

    The only time I ever used the tablet mode to trace a paper drawing was for bringing in topographic maps. The most amazing thing was programming the digitizer puck buttons. We came up with a technique for having a shift key so you could have 25+ commands and osnaps on-hand.

  • @GaugePlays1980
    @GaugePlays1980 2 года назад +23

    I love the absolute excitement you have in your videos. As always, I love the content. Also haven't seen Autocad LT since High School. Probably somewhere in '96 or '97. We never got to use the tablet though, or the HUGS plotter.

  • @terryc7142
    @terryc7142 Год назад +1

    I was a drafter in the 1990's and used a digitizer with a 16-button puck. We used Personal Designer by ComputerVision, now owned by PTC I believe. It was a wireframe 3D CAD that let you do some fun things like entering a formula to generate input (such as to generate a spiral for a screw). The puck buttons could be programmed with macros to seriously speed up the work. We designed printers, some of which I still see in operation today!

  • @GYTCommnts
    @GYTCommnts 2 года назад +5

    I love to see at work all this kind of devices, totally out of my reach back then of course, and often for very niche usage, that I saw in tech magazines. Thank you!

  • @timmaahhhh
    @timmaahhhh Год назад

    Wow, thanks for the memories! I remember using these digitizers back in 1992-1995. I took CAD in HS and we were rocking Autocad R12. The Digitizer always drove me nuts until I had everything configured just right. I loved how everything was basically a hotkey. Took for another year in college before switching over to graphic design. I still have an old version of Autocad LT somewhere on one of my computers. This has me wanting to buy a Wacom Bamboo tablet now and start whipping up things to either make on the 3d printer, or cut out with the CNC router. Awesome vid.

  • @lazy_gamer_dad
    @lazy_gamer_dad 2 года назад +3

    This brought back some memories of High School Tech Drawing. You're gonna need a plotter now.

  • @6581punk
    @6581punk 2 года назад +33

    I remember the CAD systems at college, running in DOS, dual screens (one for the commands) and I think the tablet also had command shortcuts on it. The full on versions of AutoCAD needed a dongle.

  • @gleaming999
    @gleaming999 2 года назад +18

    Back on AutoCAD 14, I replicated the menu system from the tablet to pop up in AutoCAD using AutoLisp.
    It had the icons and you could click on different tabs.
    in the mid 90's the tablets were already falling out of favor.

    • @bcostin
      @bcostin 2 года назад

      Wow, AutoLisp. I'd almost forgotten about that!

  • @timothystevenhoward
    @timothystevenhoward 2 года назад +61

    Shelby, your left hand is usually on the keyboard issuing commands like L, Enter to draw a line. It's vector based, so you click at each line endpoint using a snap. I use microstation every day but I'm remembering Autocad 14 from back in the 90s.

    • @FrankConforti
      @FrankConforti 2 года назад +13

      Funny, I retired two years ago from Bentley Systems after 25 years of service. Your name rings a bell.

    • @timothystevenhoward
      @timothystevenhoward 2 года назад +8

      @@FrankConforti hi Frank :)

    • @JeffTiberend
      @JeffTiberend 2 года назад

      I've only messed with AutoCad 13 to AutoCad 2000. I miss using AutoCad.

  • @johnhaines4163
    @johnhaines4163 Год назад +2

    I was involved in setting up AutoCad on a 386/66 in 1990 on DOS. We had a similar digitiser, a powerful (for the time) graphics card and a massive CRT monitor. The hardware was around £6,000. The main thing I remember was the extreme configuration of config.sys and autoexec.bat needed to get the drivers to load.

  • @erolcims6664
    @erolcims6664 Год назад +2

    With LSP command abbreviations, I could run circles around a CAD tech using a digitizer. Also the 4 button puck was the way to go with the tablet.

  • @UKSCIENCEORG
    @UKSCIENCEORG 2 года назад +7

    I remember digitizing paper maps in a Geography department at university in the 90s. We used a massive digitizing table about a metre squared. The crosshair controller is called a puck.

  • @Grams79
    @Grams79 Год назад

    Love your caahnnel. I'm watching with coffee a few times a week to bring me back to my Tandy1000 days when I was just a kid hacking ms-dos games. Thanks buddy!!

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut Год назад

    Blast from the past. In the last 80s I worked at a electronics store that had the "salvage contract" with Calcomp (just a stone's throw away). Being the 80's version of techies we pieced systems back together and "just like that", I had a 1023 E size plotter, and still do. I don't think I've turned it on for years (just like my wife). Of course that was a No-No under the salvage contract rules. But I'll risk it. Very COoL video and GR8T post edits. Cheers!

  • @Ghilliedude3
    @Ghilliedude3 2 года назад +3

    Man, this thing is so cool. I love being able to see the copper circle used to track the movement.

  • @megsley
    @megsley 2 года назад

    my husband, a land surveyor, thought this was neat! great video!

  • @loopymind
    @loopymind Год назад

    It's so funny (in a good) way to see you're excitement when it starts to work.

  • @pavelpotehin4024
    @pavelpotehin4024 2 года назад +3

    Wow. I never thought that I would see things like this again. At the end of 90's or early 00's we had one like this at home, but with the different branding. It had pen, two mices and multiple inlays, but was just used as a tablet.

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan 2 года назад +6

    Yes, sends me right back to 1997 engineering school. Windows 3.11, when we all were done with our CAD assignments in the lab, we quickly tried to start Trumpet Winsock and Netscape Navigator, which took EXACLTY 65 seconds to start on the lab PCs, and locked Alt+Tab in win311 for that time. So we did CAD, waited till the teacher made his rounds, started the browser, and when he returned alt tabbed. The rest was clever pretending to use the keyboard for input (which we learned to do as well, so was believable)

    • @kbhasi
      @kbhasi Год назад

      Your comment sent me right back to 2009 Singaporean primary school. Windows XP, and before the MOE required schools to use Symantec BlueCoat and Cicada Cube to block websites, while we were working on assignments, assuming bullies don't ruin or outright permanently delete them (that sadly happened to me a few times as I was a popular target for bullies), we would open the outdated Internet Explorer 6 and try to use that to watch RUclips and access other websites, particularly Flash game websites like Y3, Y8, Miniclip, and of course, Club Penguin and Neopets. We had to switch between the software we were supposed to be using and Internet Explorer.

  • @soonersciencenerd383
    @soonersciencenerd383 7 месяцев назад

    when i was in trade school, and used autoCAD it just came out in 1993, the plotter and the software was state-of-the-art.
    we had a lot of fun!

  • @mrshimmy1999
    @mrshimmy1999 2 года назад

    Wow this brings back some old memories. I like the excitement for something that you didn't use in the wild back in the day.

  • @GuiOpsDev
    @GuiOpsDev 9 месяцев назад

    I worked with Ford and installed quite a few tablets from various vendors. Once the tablet is setup and calibrated, the template is a godsend.

  • @bcostin
    @bcostin 2 года назад +2

    I administered a college CAD lab back in the day. We used Summagraphics tablets, which appear to be pretty similar. The overlay menus were super handy and could be used with some other apps too, as I recall.

  • @shadetreetoolman2047
    @shadetreetoolman2047 2 года назад

    The very first CAD program I learned back in my 2003-2004 junior year of high school was AutoCAD. I never got to use this type of hardware but, remember my teacher having some of these style of input devices in the classroom. Your video is very interesting.

  • @anonymeister123
    @anonymeister123 2 года назад +1

    Yasss, I've been interested in old CAD software for the longest time

  • @Ametisti
    @Ametisti 2 года назад

    That thing is so, so cool. I love the way it got applied to the document area instead of screenspace.

  • @MaxQ10001
    @MaxQ10001 2 года назад +4

    Note 2: they were used mainly for drawing, as a mouse with tools, not for "scanning" objects. For a circuit diagram, you would turn on the grid function in Acad.

  • @Deckmaster
    @Deckmaster Год назад

    Wow that brings back high school memories. I learned CAD in a drafting class on AutoCad 9 (DOS) using that digitizer.

  • @jothain
    @jothain 2 года назад +5

    Wow, that's such a cool device. I think your results would be neater and faster if you'd enable "ortho" and limit possible angles to ie. 45 degrees. It's also easy to toggle on/off with f8 iirc.
    Edit: That must have been really good device for designers before. Those aren't bad results for such little usage. Really helpful for digitizing old equipment schematics etc.

  • @SAEZUP
    @SAEZUP 2 года назад

    I'm more than 20 years working with AutoCad and I remember this tablet perfectly. Was the best to draw in Cad topographic planes from paper. Vintage tool 🔥

  • @FoxskyPE
    @FoxskyPE 2 года назад +4

    Olha só isso... Eu passei toda a minha infância do anos 90 querendo um deste. Sempre via este equipamento em documentários e livros. Mas o tempo se passo, mas nunca vi um pessoalmente. O próprio Auto CAD, já era uma verdadeira lenda . " Olha vc pode desenhar o que quiser com ele..." Era tanta expectativa, que quando eu finalmente fui trabalhar com o CAD, já não tinha mais graça.

  • @RvH00
    @RvH00 2 года назад +1

    This is very cool! Right now one of my projects at college is to figure out a 3D digitizer. It is basically like an articulating desktop crane with a stylus on the end. You can trace over an object to record all the points. It was made in 2007 but is apparently worth a pretty penny. Making peripherals work is always fun!

  • @ste76539
    @ste76539 2 года назад +15

    In my Youth Training Scheme days (a weird UK modern attempt to replace apprenticeship, it didn't really work though) I was placed at an architects company. This would have been around '90 ish. They were very old school and everything was done on tracing paper. Some of their drawing equipment was from the 40's. They had two computers - a horrible Amstrad PCW thing and an IBM 5150 which was hooked up to an A0 sized plotter that nobody in the company knew how to make chooch. Me being in college at the time, could use both and they were in awe when I showed them how to draw simple line diagrams in Basic on the Amstrad (that was it's limit). I mostly used the IBM to play Space Invaders 🙂 although I could use the plotter. However, the partners both refused to 'go digital' and believed it was all just a fad and would go away eventually. The small amount of gear they did have cost them a fortune and they never saw any return (being totally computer illiterate and refusing to invest in any training). Fond memories though.

    • @chrisukman
      @chrisukman Год назад

      That was a common word to say at the time FAD , I used to in systems support , I would say to them , 'you can't disinvent the wheel,'

  • @FlyboyHelosim
    @FlyboyHelosim 2 года назад +5

    I've always loved old CAD software for some reason. It's crazy to think how much these old programs cost when you can pick up a modern equivalent for just a few bucks off eBay.

  • @DouglasHeyen
    @DouglasHeyen 2 года назад +6

    I’ve got a couple Of those with my dads Hyundai 286. I also have release 12 on dos and I think the one for windows which came out directly after. Imma go dig. I know the brand I had was summasketch. About 1.5 wider and longer. It was really
    Cool cuz when you drop it on the pad it immediately drops to that location on screen

  • @Christian762
    @Christian762 2 года назад +1

    Man that overlay was an amazing surprise. Usually you hear the word "overlay card" and tech and you think cheap hacky junk, but this one lowkey seems reasonable even today. Especially if you're already looking at the tablet vs a screen having tools there to use saves looking up.

  • @JayGroh
    @JayGroh 2 года назад +1

    Something that was drilled in to us in school was to set your Grid, Snap, and Limits first thing starting a new drawing.

  • @shanematuszek9009
    @shanematuszek9009 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @davidtroeh
    @davidtroeh 2 года назад

    The big advantage to the tool buttons on the digitizer is that you could keep one hand on the cursor and the other on the keyboard to fill in quick commands. I used the Summasketch equivalent to yours in my AutoCAD classes in 1995-99. A few years ago, I ended up with a box of several Summasketch I, II, and III digitizers.

  • @Ragnar8504
    @Ragnar8504 2 года назад +4

    Oh yes, multi-monitor setups... when I started working at an electrical engineering company in 2007 I had to dig up an old CRT from some back room to get a second monitor because the company was too cheap to get me a second TFT. My computer also had Windows 2000 because they'd run out of XP licences. Judging by the admin's complaints the hours he spent installing service packs and updates probably outweighed the cost of another XP licence. Oh and you could make it crash due to lack of RAM trying to open Autocad drawings with overly complex layouts.
    The worst thing though was that the office was fairly close (maybe 50 m) from a railway line and every single time a big electric locomotive passed by the image of my CRT would start bouncing. I have absolutely no idea how the employees survived the 90s and early 2000s in that office, before TFTs!

  • @user-tc2ky6fg2o
    @user-tc2ky6fg2o 2 года назад +1

    We used AutoCAD 12 on DOS in high school, which I had a copy on my 286 notebook. I bought a 287 coprocessor separately for speed up the software. It was a significant speedup after installing it. I met once with AutoCAD 1.0 as well on an XT machine.
    Of course, a digitizer was just a dream (actually, a lack of dreams, we didn't know what to use it for). But a plotter really took place on our/my wishlist on my "AutoCAD hardware."
    This digitizer in the video could be competitive with today's drawing board (I believe) because of the multiple buttons. With the right software and use case, of course.

  • @J.R-Design_97
    @J.R-Design_97 2 года назад

    Damm I'm a draftsman with 5 years of experience and it's nice watching this video because I got to see what someone had to do once upon a time and I'm in new era and one day I'm going to get old and there ways of drafting.

  • @BrianNYMusicMaker
    @BrianNYMusicMaker Год назад

    I remember using a mouse and point position calculations. . .and banging my head against the desk. This was super cool.

  • @MiTh69
    @MiTh69 2 года назад +2

    I used something similar on DOS running AutoCAD v11/12 many... many... years ago :) It made things so much faster because AutoCad for DOS didn't really have a toolbar. Without a tablet you would type all the commands on the keyboard using shortcuts setup in a user defined config file. On the early DOS versions of AutoCAD the config for the tablet was fairly daunting but very configurable. All the config you did was done with co-ordinates in the config file. Later there were AutoLISP configurators written that, at least, helped setup the tablet. Then, ironically, you would use the tablet to draw your own custom template that you would plot on paper and insert under the clear cover.

    • @MichaelNeese
      @MichaelNeese Год назад

      Yep, V12 was the first that came with both DOS and Windows installations. It was night and day. v10 could do 3D video but a dozen frames with more than 3 primary objects and a curvy camera path could easily take 20min to compile and the rendering was still sketchy looking.

  • @WSS_the_OG
    @WSS_the_OG Год назад

    Oh my goodness. I think my dad (an architect) used one of these at, or maybe just a bit before, this exact era. He got into AutoCAD starting with an 80386 at first, if I recall correctly.

  • @IDPhotoMan
    @IDPhotoMan Год назад

    I still have my Digi-Tab II, as well as a 36"x36" version hanging on my office wall. It's pretty cool. Started with Autocad and DCA in 1988.

  • @egmccann
    @egmccann 2 года назад +1

    Learned AutoCAD in the 90s. I vaguely remember these.

  • @KAPTKipper
    @KAPTKipper Год назад

    I worked for a small GIS company in the early 90's. Serial digitizers were very expensive. The "puck" should track nicely across the surface. There was a "universal" driver WINTAB at one time for windows 95 that allowed for mouse input. There were many output formats the data packets from the tablet, but some where widely supported. I suspect if you had the manual you could use the tablet menu to select these.
    One of the products the company i worked for had was SAMI, Semi-Automatic Map Input. Basically it digitized a scanned maps by following the lines. You could still use the puck to select lines, type and objects. I saw a guy use it to digitize a map of a fjord in Alaska in one day. Normally it wa a 3 day operation.

  • @pyrocnc
    @pyrocnc Год назад

    I use my gtco calcomp tablet a lot. I run a cnc plasma and laser cutting shop and some customers does not have CAD files for his parts. This tablets are amazing for digitize templates and cut very accurate parts.

  • @DoubleMonoLR
    @DoubleMonoLR Год назад

    "Protocad 3D" in the mid 90s was pretty cool, particularly for fitting on 1 floppy disk, and being shareware from memory.

  • @MNCasaPro
    @MNCasaPro Год назад

    I ran Autocad 9 through 11 in the early 90s. IBM 386 computer with 1 meg of ram and 20meg hard drive. What I miss most doing cad now is the Calcomp digitizer! I want one for modern cad. Also, mine used a pen - which was very intuitive

  • @ron9665
    @ron9665 Год назад +1

    Some digi-pads could be mounted under the desk surface giving a cleaner appearance for your workspace.

  • @torafuma
    @torafuma 2 года назад +1

    This reminds me of my undergraduate classes at Cal-Poly Pomona (circa 95-96). Unfortunately at the time there was no Computer Engineering specific studies, so we got lumped in with the Electrical Engineering tracks all the time. I had 4 semesters of Design classes, and only two of those were using CAD. We were using AutoCAD 12 (DOS Version) at the time, and had a few stations that had similar drawing boards (although they were very large!). One of my professors did not enjoy anything computer related, and made us draft out our designs on paper first... then grade them, then finally transfer to CAD. What a Nightmare! I seem to remember using the Pen a LOT instead of the mouse looking thing. The pen seem to make life a lot easer when transferring schematics over to AutoCAD. So glad I don't have to do that anymore!

  • @teddgram
    @teddgram Год назад

    I used to create my own custom menus for those tablets. AutoCad has menu files that you can manipulate with a text editor. It was handy for making macros. Also, I was always a fan of the Kurta tablets. I miss those.

  • @thomaswitmer51
    @thomaswitmer51 2 года назад

    In my drafting Vo-Tech class, I started with AutoCAD r10 in 1994 on a Summagraphics digitizer. Being a younger student, I was envious of the older kids on r12. I’ve used r14, 2000i, 2002, 2004, 2006 arch desktop, 2008, 2012 and finally got on the subscription plan two years ago. I still type out commands like using r10. I could set world records typing “qsave” with my left hand without looking. My “esc” buttons are always worn smooth from using it that much. Most of the new features I’ve learned the commands for as well, as I like tying them more than hunting for them in the toolbars. Yes, I know I can make my own but I’m a curmudgeon and I’ve been doing it that way for 28 years.

  • @o0julek0o
    @o0julek0o 2 года назад

    Lovely ViewSonic monitor. I grew up with the exact same one.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 2 года назад +1

    in the osu! community, a few people have put a tennis ball on a wacom pen so they could have a "mouse-like" shape with absolute positioning, but it seems like CalComp had this figured out AND SOME in the 90's.

  • @CAD_GEEK
    @CAD_GEEK 2 года назад

    I had that exact model. Wow, such a walk through memory lane. I now use a Wacom One Pen Display.

  • @AndyMarsh
    @AndyMarsh 2 года назад

    Worked in a CAD office back then. We had a few digitisers but pretty much no one used them. I spent an eon trying to get one setup because they looked cool, the old hands told me to not bother but I persisted. I got it working but went back to a normal mouse after a week or two. Perhaps good for some work flows but for the from scratch drafting we were doing they were not much use.

  • @badcogo
    @badcogo 9 месяцев назад

    After several weeks (on and off) I finally stumbled on the solution to the same issue you were having regarding the Fixed Screen Pointing Area. Go back to the GTCO Tabletworks Control Panel. I only have "enable" and "mouse" checked across the top. Open the cursor TAB and make sure "absolute" and "enable mapping" are checked. "Apply". Go back to AutoCad and CFG the menu again (not CAL.). If that doesn't work, you'll have to wait for my upload. Cheers!

  • @tspawn35
    @tspawn35 Год назад

    2008 is when eInstruction bought GTCO CalComp. Speaking of eInstruction is a name I haven't seen in years. Worked for them in 2009. Wild to think that so many companies I have worked for have been bought out or gone out of business that I have worked for.

  • @Kwstr42
    @Kwstr42 2 года назад

    i learned cad on AutoCAD 12 in 11th grade for DOS, ironically my father was learning it too in college classes for building houses, i still have the text book with disk for release 12 he was using

  • @robertcolpitts4534
    @robertcolpitts4534 2 года назад

    I still have a SummaGraphics SummaSketch III with the 16 button cursor. I need to resurrect it and see if it works. I used it quite a bit in the 1990s and early 2000s building maps and digitizing well locations. Worked like a charm but needs a converter for the RS-232 DB9 Serial Port to USB, which are not directly compatible.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 2 года назад

      One can still buy serial port cards for modern PCs. Things like GPS, scanners, and other devices use them.

  • @AlejoMX5
    @AlejoMX5 2 года назад

    Looking at that desk gave me a dejavú feeling of 1995. Holy duck.

  • @RodIgle
    @RodIgle 2 года назад

    Awesome throwback comments and very interesting video

  • @brownstar69
    @brownstar69 2 года назад

    I started out using Superdraft on an IBM AT in 89, maybe 90. One huge black and white screen for drawing and a Hercules monitor for commands.
    Progressed onto AUTOCAD 2D, then the 3D version. Then Pro Engineer on SG Indys and a retro grade step to Medusa and CATIA

  • @richfiles
    @richfiles 2 года назад

    I've got a pair of these old tablets, but have never used them before. Very interested in this video. Mine have the pen and the cursor with the fewer buttons.

  • @bocarlsson3rd
    @bocarlsson3rd 2 года назад

    Oh God I love super specific weird technology!
    Great video.thank you so much!
    /Bo

  • @galier2
    @galier2 2 года назад +1

    I've checked and I still have some drivers for Calcomp. I don't remember exactly for what it is used. THere are drivers for Win95/NT.

  • @CraigAB69
    @CraigAB69 2 года назад +1

    Back in 1992, I learnt to draw electronic schematics with AutoCAD 12. (at TAFE = US Community College?) I don't think there were many programs around at the time that drew schematics.
    Anyway, there was a library of components that you could place on the drawing.

  • @AugurIliKur
    @AugurIliKur 2 года назад

    Oh wow, this brings back memories! I had one of these with the stylus and ADB option. I used it on my Macintosh Performa 6400. You can use it with a projector on the computer and project the video down onto the tablet. I think I paid $20 because it was missing the power supply.

  • @scottwatrous
    @scottwatrous 2 года назад

    I remember as a kid seeing a lot of 90's AutoCAD. And those digitizers! And then in the 2010's I got a job running 90's CATIA. Good times.

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics Год назад

    AutoCAD LT 97? Now that sounds very familiar. My mum used it in her job back in the '90s/very early 2000s (before upgrading to 2000 or 2003). She was an engineer working for ABB, designing the mechanical and hydraulic aspects of high power transformers for electrical grids all over the world. She had so much work at some point that she had to do part of it at home, so she borrowed the CD and we installed AutoCAD on our PC. It took a lot more time, but then no one heard about SSDs back then, and who cared about licences? It was all about getting things done, haha. I even tried my hand at designing something but got frustrated pretty quickly.
    RTFM can be misleading, haha! Cool device anyway :)

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 2 года назад

    I still have a 21-inch CAD digitiser pad with the pen and the puck! I haven't used it in years... Win7 still supported it... not sure if Win10 does now... If I never test it, it still works fine!
    I had three of the Summagraphics tablet AutoCAD dig tablets too, they were wired, and worked with DOS and AutoCAD 4, as I remember...

  • @curiosidicas
    @curiosidicas 2 года назад

    I'm 45 years old and I didn't believe this stuff was really real. It was sci-fi stuff till now!! :)

  • @seancondon5572
    @seancondon5572 2 года назад

    There was a version of the pointing device which looked nearly identical, but ran on batteries. No wire. My father had that one.

  • @thierrykurt3867
    @thierrykurt3867 2 года назад +2

    Impressive , I could only see it in magazines, since it was impossible to buy it

  • @DesignsbyCADPRO
    @DesignsbyCADPRO 2 года назад

    A blast from the past...

  • @DesordenadoPeroUtil
    @DesordenadoPeroUtil 2 года назад +1

    FYI, AFAIK the "mouse" is named actually as "puck".

  • @craigjensen6853
    @craigjensen6853 2 года назад +1

    I'm a highway engineer and I so wish I could use one of these today. The ribbons and contextual menus are a pain to use in Microstation (and often don't respond). I have a macro keyboard but it's not the same. I've dreamed of a sort of hybrid touch screen drafting table about 24 x 36 where you can interact directly on the elements with an input device instead of using a mouse. Manual drafting has benefits and it would be the best of both worlds.

  • @bshoke
    @bshoke 2 года назад

    I suspect that those boards are also compatible with arcGIS from that time because the university I attended in and eventually became employed at had one that was on a stand and a few feet tall and a few feet wide in the GIS lab in 2003, and eventually I found the same set up from this video in its box I believe with the disk I think I may still have it squirreled away at work somewhere because I was curious about their functions.

  • @kaitlyn__L
    @kaitlyn__L 2 года назад

    Oh heck, they used this system or an identical competitor for game design in Nintendo back in the day too. I noticed in some archive footage they have the 2/3 button mice, but others had a whole keypad for quick item selection

  • @drumtone
    @drumtone Год назад

    I remember ITT Tech using B-roll footage in their commercials of this digitizer/puck

  • @thumbwarriordx
    @thumbwarriordx 2 года назад

    I definitely remember seeing a device like this as a kid. I think it was some Sesame Street segment about plotting city maps from helicopter photos.
    Coulda been Mister Rogers too, or basically anything lol

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 6 месяцев назад

    I saw someone using this with modern windows, and they only NOW switched, because they wanted rubber buttons because they didn't flare up their RSI, and they swapped to the 8bitdo NES mouse. good for them.

  • @rockaholictom
    @rockaholictom 2 года назад

    This is a serious piece of technology I love using Fusion, but having something like this would be so fun to utilise.

  • @3Dsjk
    @3Dsjk 2 года назад

    AutoCAD LT was the bane of a drafter’s existence BITD; it was cheap enough that engineers could buy it as an office expense, and if they found where the drawings were kept in the server, they could do some real damage.

  • @_Viking
    @_Viking 2 года назад

    I remember this tablet (maybe not the exact model, but very similar). I used it back in 1992.

  • @anon_y_mousse
    @anon_y_mousse 2 года назад +2

    This will sound weird, but I'd love to see you write programs in AutoLISP and add functionality to that version of AutoCAD to match what more modern versions do.

  •  2 года назад

    Hello, i wonder what is the box with five oranges switches and one red below the monitor? Many thanks!

  • @ripkurgen2030
    @ripkurgen2030 2 года назад

    By the time windows 98 had come out i think most users had moved onto to mouse only. I grew up using my Dads Tandon 386 with A3 Tablet and AutoCAD R12 for DOS. he had a 16" colour Eizo screen and a small amber screen for the autocad command text. which basically gave you the full colour for the drawing with just the top and side menu showing.. the graphics card for the colour screen was triple slot and from memory was called a Cobra made by Vermont microsystems. As mention in your video he had AutoCAD AEC which had all the walls doors and windows symbols..and reconfig the tablet if you wanted to trace an old drawing. Also had an A0 Roland flat bed pen plotter which always plotted in some mythical order

  • @water1051
    @water1051 Год назад

    Would love to see a Pt where you employee the grid capabilities to do an improved drawing

  • @LarsDahlin
    @LarsDahlin 2 года назад

    Yeah, I did work as a civil engineer a decade in the 90's. Those memories. 😀