Random People Guess iPhone 15 Pro or $5,000 Camera
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- Опубликовано: 16 дек 2023
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Every year I make a video comparing the newest iPhone to my daily professional camera and every year I get the same comments. “Of course I can’t tell the difference comparing these images on a RUclips video.” The truth is, they are right! Comparing images through a video you might be watching on a screen the size of your phone, compression of video, or just the resizing of the images means you have to basically take my word for it. When it comes to photography quality, the most important deliverable when your work is completed is in print. So this year I’ve made the comparison even better by having images professionally printed on metal. And the best part? You won’t even have to take my word for it because we are going to ask random strangers as they are walking by which image they think was taken by each camera. The results surprised me and I suspect they will surprise you too.
This years test were a bit more difficult than last year for people to get correct. I picked the daytime photo from Gros Morne, and the blue hour shot from the coast of newfoundland.
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Mind-blowing. A video idea: it'd be cool to compare the phone to the canon specifically showcasing ALL the weaknesses of the phone, where it falls apart.
Apple should pay you for this comparison, as it really does make a massive case for not owning a 'camera' if you're not into the all the additional bells and whistles a normal camera provides.
But that is exactly NOT what this video tells you. at 07:20 he states, "but given the right circumstances an editing knowledge", which is exactly the additional bells and whistles you will need to make the pictures look alike.
And if you are going to be forced to use "all the additional bells and whistles a normal camera provides" you might as well use a normal camera and gain access to the additional benefit, like a bigger lens selection and bigger control over your image.
@@HJN67you need to edit iPhone photos just like the digital camera for the best results from both products. Everyone knows that.
I think what the commenter above is saying that if you just want to take still images, iPhone these days are almost on par with digital camera minus lens selection and a few other things.
Yes a camera is better but the gap is closing each year.
The bells and whistles they refer to I imagine would be super fast auto tracking for fast moving objects, dual sd card slots so on n so on .. these technology’s and features increase the price of these camera body’s plus lenses way past the cost of an iPhone .
Out of the box they are extremely capable devices that your average /semi pro user can get insane results with a little knowledge at the fraction of the price .
I have had multiple $4000 cameras and sold them all. I’ve realised I’m
Paying for so many features that I literally NEVER used
The phone is more then enough for my use case with some light room thrown in there.
I think the video says if you want to save about 3000 on the body and depending on lands another 3000 get good with your Photoshop skills and use an iPhone. Bought myself a cannon R6 Mark II caught it on sale. Haven't opened it yet. Might just take it back
Those are HUGE prints - for everyone to be wishy-washy about which one was which speaks volumes to how good iphone photography has gotten. Well done!!
Thanks so much
Forget every image comparison in the internet. This is the ultimate one.
Thank you so much for this! I have been watching so many videos to try to find out if it's possible to create quality enlarged prints using iPhone pics! I'm getting my 15 pro max tomorrow and heading to Europe in October! Thanks again!
Very interesting Alex. I hope you sold all your prints at the gallery show!! You are so right about the difference of seeing work in person rather than on a video!
I did not sadly, hoping I can sell enough to at least recover the cost.
Very interesting video, Alex! Getting the outsider's opinion with the students adds realism to the comparison, that we just can't see on a youtube video. Bravo Zulu, friend.
Thank you buddy!
So cool to see videos of back home
I passed by your place!
What I noticed when taking headshots and the person is somewhat off the center that heads tend to appear oval and distorted. This is one of the main reason why I have just bought a serious camera (Nikon Z8) because I don't like looking at my wife with an egg shaped head in my iPhoto gallery. Another strong argument is the different lenses especially when it comes to tele and zooms.
Phone cameras have come so far these days. But, I love my R6 and if I wanted to take a photo to print I would use my R6 and not my phone. Great vid Alex 👍
Thanks a lot Marty
Thanks Alex, these are great comparison vids that you make.
I recently bought an iphone 15 PM to compliment my heavy FF kit. As expected it can produce great images - in good light. When the light gets a bit moody, it can struggle, especially the smaller sensors in the UWA and Tele. There is still life in my EOS R!
An interesting observation: I took some nice forest images with backlit misty rain. The iphone with its multi shot processing isolated each raindrop as a point source of light. Rather impressive tech, but it somewhat ruined the shot.
Really interesting video 👏👏👏
Glad you think so!
Very cool comparison dude, they are suuuuper close. Oh and holy haircuts! 😂📸😎
Thanks Jason. It has to go sometime.
:) nice alex!
Great Video! What size were the prints?
I could spot the phone shot of the blue hour because it looked slightly oversharpened.
At least I think.
Regardless, it's an impressive result. My S22 Ultra falls apart with prints SOOC at 11X17
15x30 and 24x30 I believe
When resizing with Gigapixel Ai is it better to do it in the stand alone software or from Lightroom? I’m thinking saving a Tiff file from Lr then taking into Gigapixel Ai to resize might be better?
typically using software dedicated to upsizing has better results.
What a fantastic video.
what a fantastic comment
Bravo Alex. This was fun. I'd love to see a video on the post-processing steps to make iPhone 15 Pro pix look like full-frame. Most challenging of all: faces. iPhone faces still looked adobe-mud-plastic-fake in the 14 Pro, but the changes in the 15 Pro are massive though under-discussed. Hm.
I don't personally have much experience with people photos
Thanks for the video. Why did you have to do any post processing? Why couldn’t you take the photo with the devices and then compare?
That isn't how I've ever approached photography personally
Got it. Thanks. I approach photography by not processing the photos at all, so that what you see is what was actually there at the time, so that the least amount of bias (adding color, etc) will not be introduced. Post processing has gone too far, to the point where photo no longer resemble what was actually taken at that moment.somehow people call artistic impression.@@AlexArmitage
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Alex, Was eagerly awaiting this video of yours. Very interesting. A couple of questions if I may... Does upsizing the resolution of the super wide 13mm equivalent lens with OnOne let it match the fine detail and resolution you are seeing from the 48mp main lens? Second, I'd think that while resolution of the phone and camera might be getting closer, I'm guessing the dynamic range capacities of the two might still distinguish them from each other... Yes/No? Maybe the new iPhone camera's technique of taking and merging multiple images, to produce essentially an HDR Raw file, may be what is helping it get close to the results of the much larger sensor in the Canon R5? Thanks, Craig
No it won't match. Watch my video on the iphone 13 pro, when it was still 12mp. That will show you that upsizing can't fix the wide. And yes the dynamic range is similar for the reasons you stated. Cameras still win out in shots that need bracketed photos.
@@AlexArmitageAlex, Ok, i’ll check that out. Thanks for your experience. I’m mulling upgrading from a 15 Pro now, or wait for the 16 Pro which is rumored to get a 48mp sensor under the ultra-wide lens.
Interesting “taste test”. But my question is, which Arc’teryx jacket are you wearing?
great question. I don't know lol. Let me look it up....
Arc'teryx Proton LT Insulated Hoodie apparently!
Condense this into a short and it will blow up, nice video 👍
Appreciate it
Cool content. Sometimes I wonder if I just sell my gear and take pictures with my phone. I hate that I cannot create an image on par with my phone. However, I have never tried to print one of my images phone or camera. I have a Google Pixel 6 and my camera is a Canon 5DS R. Thanks for the content. I enjoy your videos, they are well-paced and informative.
Thanks a lot Ken :)
Wow! I want one 😂
hi it would be interesting to test the new Samsung S24 ultra and see what it can do compared to the iPhone 15 pro.
CINED tested the dynamic range and the native ISO on iPhone is 1250, which is full frame equivalent around 10,000, similar to A7S3. So any ISO under or above that reduces the dynamic range. You would get even better results if you bump the ISO up to that and use an ND filter :)
So at 1250 you can expect around 13.5 stops of dynamic range on the iPhone, at 200 it drops to more like 11 stops, huge drop.
You cannot control ISO when shooting in Apple raw. Secondly, the dynamic range for smart HDR images is definitely more than 11 stops. CineD likely tested video capabilities, which is not what this test was covering.
also native ISO is very different for video and photos - on any camera.
@@AlexArmitageOh, really? - I thought the ISO is the same between photo/video, why would it be different? - anecdotally setting the ISO the same seems to produce the same amount of noise or am I missing something?
Phones are great for landscapes but cannot be compared to a camera for wildlife photography. It depends on the type of photography you wish to take or enjoy the most
Totally agree!
If you are located in a spot that suits the focal length of a phone, they can be great.
But if you need flexibility to get the shot you want...dunno what you do then with a phone.
Is that any different than say a photog carrying around 2-3 primes for their full frame body? As a photog, its part of our job to work within the constraints of the gear, it always has some.
@@ryancooper3629didn't you make your own point? Lenses are available to make a real camera do anything you need... The phone camera can be great, within its unalterable constraints.
@@jordanbabcock9349 Not really because I wont have every lens in my backpack, and if I try to bring too many its a portability problem. There is always a compromise. Also if we are being pedantic, companies do make lenses you can attach to an iPhone to make it different focal lengths.
so you make them match (in editing) so they can look the same ?
To see how far the iPhone can go, yes.
@@AlexArmitage that's a nice skill.... But it's a bit misleading
@@k1k13004 Not really, he is measuring if you can use an iPhone to match the quality of a full frame camera in terms of final output. Not whether they are identical SOOC.
@@ryancooper3629 well that would be a fair title : can we match these files. Here the story is different. But ok
Love these print comparison videos, Alex. I sold my Canon gear over 7 years ago and have been shooting with just an iPhone since then and I don’t mind the challenges that come with it. I’m not a pro photographer so I don’t sell prints or make money doing photography, I’m just very enthusiastic about it. Using an iPhone for all these years has enabled me to tell the difference between a DSLR or mirrorless image and an iPhone shot with great success. Knowing how the iPhone creates an image and how it is different from traditional cameras makes some things stand out, and I had it right just looking at the photos you were displaying in this video. There are definitely times when I get fooled though.
Thanks so much Greg
Very cool, Apple should sponsor/pay you, but a phone will never replace a camera
It will not! Not yet at least
Never say never. There were times when ppl couldn't even imagine that everyone will have their own computer in their pocket
I think using AI to upscale likely altered the results of this comparison, especially if both we upscaled. Since the same algorithm was used, it's likely that the synthetic details filled in by the AI is very similar between both photos, making them look very similar in quality, specifically with respect to the details in the photo
I don't think this played a roll at all when comparing the originals to the upscaled images.
What did you upscale the R5 image to? I thought it was already 45 megapixels
Pixel 8 pro. Best camera
Came from the article to the comments. Way to get a forced view on your video, could have just given the info in the Fn article!
Now why would he do that? He said in the article that the video will show people giving real critiques and you would not have to take his word for it. This is a lot better than just saying in an article what the results are. Video shows how people are having a hard time telling the difference.
Yep. My iPhone is more than good enough to sell prints. People can justify their camera all they want but a sale is a sale.
Interesting. I wonder if another experienced photographer could pick them out? Sometimes I can’t tell looking at photos on my own iphone unless I really zoom in. Well….way to go iphone I guess.
I'm sure they could. There are differences. But I don't even fully trust myself sometimes and have to label them.