Sorry but I had to chuckle. "Probably had a car that they lowered back and forth on the rails." Yes! The monitor car. You are looking right at it! 3:54
Very informative and well done. Love exploring sites like these. Is that the bridge they free jump from? I now this area is referenced often in Train & Model RR Magazines. I wish I was 20 years younger, that’s quite a hike from the River side to where the mines are. Well done sir!
Cool, i live and work in NC but i have a friend in Beckley and a home/hideaway in Quinwood WV. I have taken some interest in the mining in WV the last year or so. Mining was certainly hard and dangerous in those days, do you have any idea why they closed it and roughly what year?
I used this website as a resource for finding these old coal camps as well as for background information. Here is a link to the Fayette coal camp: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/fayette/fayette.htm
I got a group coal miners pic with my Papa 1943 I gotta take a look at that it has info written on it. Be cool to find the spot it was taken and if anything is left of what's in the picture.
The monitor track carried coal from bench level to the tipple there would have been two cars the full one would pull the empty one back up to the headhouse where it goes to four rails is where the two cars passed each other the metal ties was to ensure the gauge of the rail didn't change so the monitor cars didn't derail
The cars pulled the coal from the mine level down to the tipple on the tracks below? The ruins appear to show a mechanized pulley system lowers and raises the coal cars.
You are at Kaymoor number 1 on the other side of New River Bridge is Kaymoor number 2 which s a lot more extensive ruins including the tipple couple 100 coke ovens
I don't believe your comment is accurate. The Park Service says Kaymoor 1 is on the opposite side of the New River than the operation shown in this video: www.nps.gov/neri/learn/historyculture/kaymoor.htm Here is more history of Kaymoor, which does not suggest it was also across the river (it actually says nothing is left of Kaymoor 2), which would contradict what's in the video if you are correct: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/kaymoor/kaymoor.htm Here is some history on the Fayette site shown in this video: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/fayette/fayette.htm
Both Kaymoor 1 and 2 were on the south side of the New River, opposite from that shown in this video; please see: www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/neri/hrs1/chap2.htm
@@WebsterHighlanders I think what he is talking about is that most rails have a date imprinted on them with the date of manufacture. I dont know when they started doing that though.
I walk among the iron bones of industry past and I wonder what they were, I wonder who used them, what did they talk about, who were they? Stone on stone, laid with care, supporting nothing, anymore, were these houses, Worker's houses, who lived here, what did they dream about? This once was a road, now covered with trees older than me, tire ruts from model "A"s and Chevy trucks, going where, coming from where, what did they carry, for whom? Ghosts have only memories, so long as they are remembered, but no future, the future has moved away and taken the memories with them and lost them along the way. Where is the Grave Yard, the place where the names still live on stones tall and small and sunken places where no stone ever stood, though there are none now to read them, no memories, no dreams, not even a Ghost. Where is this place? It's called America. It's called Yesterday. It's called Building Tomorrow on iron bones and tumbled stones and conversations blown with the wind.
Why did they get rid of people jobs that workeb in all those mines! Coal will be the life line of numerous countries ! Green energy will never happen around the world! To many poor countries that rely soley on coal! My family were coal miners in the 1900 ,god bless all of them
@@WebsterHighlanders Good to hear! That alone is worth a subscription. I had a feeling that you weren't going to do that. It was very kind of you to leave a very valuable bottle for someone else to enjoy, or needed $5 LOL.
I know explorers usually don't take things they find but I would have taken that bottle just to preserve it. They next person might just throw it against a tree or use it for target practice.
@@WebsterHighlanders knowing how most idiots are around here, like the fools who burned the gwinn house and those who vandalized the john henry statue before it was moved to a secure location, i would promise you someone would just smash that bottle.
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The concrete “cistern” was likely the foundation of a wooden water tower to fill the old steam engines when they came by...
Just an astonishing video. What a great find. Great job documenting it!
Thank you very much!
That old Coke bottle is an awesome find! I love old places like this. Great video, thanks for sharing 💯👍
Heading to The Gorge this weekend!!! Great video! We are checking this out because of this video! Thank you!
Have fun!
Interesting....thanks for sharing!!
Grew up in that area. We had to go over some of those windy roads to get to Fayetteville.
Cool mine motor.
your videos are very interesting
Sorry but I had to chuckle. "Probably had a car that they lowered back and forth on the rails." Yes! The monitor car. You are looking right at it! 3:54
My grandfather, father's side, was in the coal mining industry...born in 1882, and died in 1975 at 93 years....residing in Beckley, WV.
Very informative and well done. Love exploring sites like these.
Is that the bridge they free jump from? I now this area is referenced often in Train & Model RR Magazines. I wish I was 20 years younger, that’s quite a hike from the River side to where the mines are. Well done sir!
Once a year, in October, they have Bridge Day, and they allow free jumping.
Love this content.....makes me homesick. Lol
Cool, i live and work in NC but i have a friend in Beckley and a home/hideaway in Quinwood WV. I have taken some interest in the mining in WV the last year or so. Mining was certainly hard and dangerous in those days, do you have any idea why they closed it and roughly what year?
I used this website as a resource for finding these old coal camps as well as for background information. Here is a link to the Fayette coal camp: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/fayette/fayette.htm
I got a group coal miners pic with my Papa 1943
I gotta take a look at that it has info written on it. Be cool to find the spot it was taken and if anything is left of what's in the picture.
Sounds like you have the start of a passing loop quite common on rope worked incline plains
The monitor track carried coal from bench level to the tipple there would have been two cars the full one would pull the empty one back up to the headhouse where it goes to four rails is where the two cars passed each other the metal ties was to ensure the gauge of the rail didn't change so the monitor cars didn't derail
The cars pulled the coal from the mine level down to the tipple on the tracks below? The ruins appear to show a mechanized pulley system lowers and raises the coal cars.
You are at Kaymoor number 1 on the other side of New River Bridge is Kaymoor number 2 which s a lot more extensive ruins including the tipple couple 100 coke ovens
I don't believe your comment is accurate. The Park Service says Kaymoor 1 is on the opposite side of the New River than the operation shown in this video: www.nps.gov/neri/learn/historyculture/kaymoor.htm
Here is more history of Kaymoor, which does not suggest it was also across the river (it actually says nothing is left of Kaymoor 2), which would contradict what's in the video if you are correct: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/kaymoor/kaymoor.htm
Here is some history on the Fayette site shown in this video: coalcampusa.com/sowv/river/fayette/fayette.htm
Both Kaymoor 1 and 2 were on the south side of the New River, opposite from that shown in this video; please see: www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/neri/hrs1/chap2.htm
My bad I got out my maps and you are right
Interesting,
what are the dates on side rail?
Not sure what you're referring to
THERE are date on side rails when they were made ,land who made them
@@WebsterHighlanders I think what he is talking about is that most rails have a date imprinted on them with the date of manufacture. I dont know when they started doing that though.
Didn't know that; I'll check next time I'm at one of these old sites. Thanks.
I walk among the iron bones of industry past
and I wonder what they were,
I wonder who used them,
what did they talk about,
who were they?
Stone on stone, laid with care, supporting nothing, anymore,
were these houses, Worker's houses,
who lived here,
what did they dream about?
This once was a road, now covered with trees older than me,
tire ruts from model "A"s and Chevy trucks,
going where, coming from where,
what did they carry, for whom?
Ghosts have only memories, so long as they are remembered, but no future,
the future has moved away and taken the memories with them
and lost them along the way.
Where is the Grave Yard, the place where the names still live
on stones tall and small and sunken places where no stone ever stood,
though there are none now to read them,
no memories, no dreams, not even a Ghost.
Where is this place?
It's called America.
It's called Yesterday.
It's called Building Tomorrow
on iron bones and tumbled stones and conversations
blown with the wind.
Why did they get rid of people jobs that workeb in all those mines! Coal will be the life line of numerous countries ! Green energy will never happen around the world! To many poor countries that rely soley on coal! My family were coal miners in the 1900 ,god bless all of them
Nice video but the wind is going to blow over that bottle and break it.
I ended up setting it, along with 4 other bottles I didn't film, on the ground next to an old metal tub.
@@WebsterHighlanders Good to hear! That alone is worth a subscription. I had a feeling that you weren't going to do that. It was very kind of you to leave a very valuable bottle for someone else to enjoy, or needed $5 LOL.
I know explorers usually don't take things they find but I would have taken that bottle just to preserve it. They next person might just throw it against a tree or use it for target practice.
This is a national park and I would consider it a relic of the park, so probably not legal to remove.
@@WebsterHighlanders knowing how most idiots are around here, like the fools who burned the gwinn house and those who vandalized the john henry statue before it was moved to a secure location, i would promise you someone would just smash that bottle.
Would be perfectly legal to take it out of the park.... its litter, and nothing more than litter. Cool old garbage, but litter nonetheless.
Is that what the type of rail carts great grandpa used
No, the only cart they used is what you have been adding coal to at the house.
Oh ok
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No. I can be contacted at websterhighlanders@gmail.com